Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(io9)   Sherlock Holmes faces his most feared nemesis, Murray-arty   (io9.com ) divider line
    More: Amusing, Sherlock Holmes, archenemy, Benedict Cumberbatch  
•       •       •

5306 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 04 Feb 2014 at 5:52 PM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



54 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2014-02-04 06:00:46 PM  
That's Fn adorable.

What can't the Batch do?

=]
 
2014-02-04 06:04:13 PM  
That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)
 
2014-02-04 06:04:31 PM  
Why didn't they get the guy from Elementary to do this? Oh, right. It sucks.
 
2014-02-04 06:20:28 PM  

mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)


I gleefully laughed and said yes while my boyfriend looked at me like I was nuts.

/I am, but he hasn't figured it out.... yet...
 
2014-02-04 06:23:14 PM  

mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)


I totally agree about Andrew Scott. Initially I didn't really know what to make of his interpretation of Moriarty, but he really grows on you. He was excellent in "The Reichenbach Fall". He stole the BAFTA out from under Martin Freeman for that episode.
 
2014-02-04 06:25:18 PM  
I will need to watch this with my kids when I get home.
 
2014-02-04 06:26:29 PM  
Is he teaming up with Sherlock Hemlock?
 
2014-02-04 06:29:24 PM  
4 is more than 3? No shiat, Sherlock!
 
2014-02-04 06:37:32 PM  

Soulcatcher: mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)

I totally agree about Andrew Scott. Initially I didn't really know what to make of his interpretation of Moriarty, but he really grows on you. He was excellent in "The Reichenbach Fall". He stole the BAFTA out from under Martin Freeman for that episode.


I feel like this season was a giant reset switch. We see that Sherlock has been "humanized" a bit more, and now he's going from consulting detective to hero of England.

Loved the finale. Need to watch again.

Scandal is my favorite so far (Irene, yummy.)
 
2014-02-04 06:44:59 PM  

Soulcatcher: mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)

I totally agree about Andrew Scott. Initially I didn't really know what to make of his interpretation of Moriarty, but he really grows on you. He was excellent in "The Reichenbach Fall". He stole the BAFTA out from under Martin Freeman for that episode.


Too bad the third season basically shiat on all the greatness of "The Reichenbach Fall".  So sad.
 
2014-02-04 06:46:04 PM  
Scandal is my fav too. Irene is enchanting and terrifying at the same time. I loved this season, personally. Mary was great, the interplay between Sherlock and Mycroft was priceless, and I loved that they used his real parents as Mycroft and Sherlock's mum and dad. My only regret is that LeStrade was terribly under utilized.
 
2014-02-04 06:50:47 PM  
That was fantastic. Win-win for me and my 20 month old.

/this season ended too quickly
//le sigh
///always Justified!
 
2014-02-04 06:50:50 PM  
I dont think there's a single episode of Sherlock that I don't love. I really wished there were more episodes per season. I can't get enough of those episodes.
 
2014-02-04 06:53:05 PM  
This season really was all for set up for season 4. Like I said. Reset switch :)

/really liked the camera work in the wedding episode with the wipes coinciding with the thing being walked in front of. I just think the cinematography of this show is one of the best ever.
 
2014-02-04 06:54:09 PM  

roflmaonow: I dont think there's a single episode of Sherlock that I don't love. I really wished there were more episodes per season. I can't get enough of those episodes.


Hounds is possibly the weakest. That or the blind banker.

But it's still far better than anything else out there besides archer :)
 
2014-02-04 06:54:23 PM  
Cumberbatch plays an airline pilot in a BBC Radio comedy series called "Cabin Pressure".

When Sherlock became big and he became universally identified with his Sherlock portrayal, they did an episode of Cabin Pressure where he ended up solving a mystery on the airplane.

Throughout the episode, whenever he solved something (rightly or wrongly), the other characters would say things like "You're a regular...Hercule Poirot!" or "You're just like...Mrs. Marple!"

It was godsdamn hilarious.
 
2014-02-04 06:59:29 PM  

mariner314: roflmaonow: I dont think there's a single episode of Sherlock that I don't love. I really wished there were more episodes per season. I can't get enough of those episodes.

Hounds is possibly the weakest. That or the blind banker.

But it's still far better than anything else out there besides archer :)


Yea but still I love ALL episodes of this show. Brilliant in every aspect.
 
2014-02-04 07:00:06 PM  
I think at this point we are lucky to get any new ones at all, both Freeman and Cumberbatch are fairly sought after actors now for mainstream films, and British TV pays NOTHING like American TV and films do. I think they are sticking with it because they love playing those characters and they love the Dev team. Freeman was pretty well known prior to Sherlock, but that show MADE Cumberbatch and he acknowledges that.
 
2014-02-04 07:04:02 PM  

Doogled: Soulcatcher: mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)

I totally agree about Andrew Scott. Initially I didn't really know what to make of his interpretation of Moriarty, but he really grows on you. He was excellent in "The Reichenbach Fall". He stole the BAFTA out from under Martin Freeman for that episode.

Too bad the third season basically shiat on all the greatness of "The Reichenbach Fall".  So sad.


SPOILERS

I wouldn't say the third season took away anything from the Reichenbach Fall. I do think the last episode showing Moriarty potentially coming back ruins it. Just seems very cheesy and does take away from the dramatic end that the Reichenbach Fall had. I think the third season was a bit of a down season as it had no big over arching enemy. The over arching theme seemed to be Watson's wife but that did not get that interesting until the last half of the last episode. Sure there was Magnussen but there was no real reason why he got involved with Sherlock. I think that connection will be explained in Season 4. Re-watching Reichenbach Fall, Moriarity mentioned all the jurors had a "pressure point", the same phrase Magnussen used for the people he controlled. A bit of a stretch but Moffet is known for putting little hints in his stories and creating large arcs.
 
2014-02-04 07:06:09 PM  
Unfortunately this sketch is teaching kids that you can compare Apples and Oranges, which as everyone knows is something to avoid doing.

YOU FAIL SLUT BUMWALLA!
 
2014-02-04 07:10:11 PM  

Lord Dimwit: Cumberbatch plays an airline pilot in a BBC Radio comedy series called "Cabin Pressure".

When Sherlock became big and he became universally identified with his Sherlock portrayal, they did an episode of Cabin Pressure where he ended up solving a mystery on the airplane.

Throughout the episode, whenever he solved something (rightly or wrongly), the other characters would say things like "You're a regular...Hercule Poirot!" or "You're just like...Mrs. Marple!"

It was godsdamn hilarious.


Cabin Pressure is delightfully absurd. It was strange to watch Cumberbatch and Allam together in HBO's Parade's End after listening to CP, but they were both great and had a very good chemistry together.

/Yellow Car!
 
2014-02-04 07:24:00 PM  

ActionJoe: SPOILERS

I wouldn't say the third season took away anything from the Reichenbach Fall. I do think the last episode showing Moriarty potentially coming back ruins it.


Still SPOILERS

I saw a great fan-theory that speculated that the reason we saw the bits about Sherlock's mother being the brains in the marriage is because it is really her behind Moriarty's "resurrection". IIRC, the person thought that she is really some twisted genius behind what were thought to be Moriarty's crimes, doing it all just to keep Sherlock challenged and amused.

They called her "Mummiarty." : )
 
2014-02-04 07:59:56 PM  

ActionJoe: Doogled: Soulcatcher: mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)

I totally agree about Andrew Scott. Initially I didn't really know what to make of his interpretation of Moriarty, but he really grows on you. He was excellent in "The Reichenbach Fall". He stole the BAFTA out from under Martin Freeman for that episode.

Too bad the third season basically shiat on all the greatness of "The Reichenbach Fall".  So sad.

SPOILERS

I wouldn't say the third season took away anything from the Reichenbach Fall. I do think the last episode showing Moriarty potentially coming back ruins it. Just seems very cheesy and does take away from the dramatic end that the Reichenbach Fall had. I think the third season was a bit of a down season as it had no big over arching enemy. The over arching theme seemed to be Watson's wife but that did not get that interesting until the last half of the last episode. Sure there was Magnussen but there was no real reason why he got involved with Sherlock. I think that connection will be explained in Season 4. Re-watching Reichenbach Fall, Moriarity mentioned all the jurors had a "pressure point", the same phrase Magnussen used for the people he controlled. A bit of a stretch but Moffet is known for putting little hints in his stories and creating large arcs.


MOAR SPOILERS

Two ways in which the third season ruined Reichenbauch Fall:

1)  The rooftop scene no longer makes any sense at all.  It's been a month since I watched the Empty Hearse, but we're left to believe that the third story is the one that actually happened.  In this story, Sherlock and Mycroft basically played with Moriarty's plan along the entire episode in order to find out information about his network.  I'm going to brush off how that little nugget ruined almost all the suspense in the story and just focus on the roof scene.  The death plan that they used would have only worked with Watson in that spot (which the writers brushed off with the "everyone's a critic" line) and, more importantly, without Moriarty.  However, Sherlock claims that he could not have anticipated Moriarty killing himself, so how was that plan supposed to work with Moriarty there?  Even if you write off that line, why would Sherlock react that shocked/panicked after Moriarty shot himself if they had anticipated that?  I can buy Sherlock playing dumb throughout the episode, but who was the act for if they were alone on the rooftop?  It's a farking shiatty explanation on so many levels and ruins their best episode to date in retrospect.

2)  Magnussen is actually the better nemesis than Moriarty.  Again, with the deus ex machina planning in play, Moriarty was beat sometime before the Hounds episode as that was when Mycroft was feeding him information (how they deduced that that would have been Moriarty's plan is another huge hole).  Sherlock and Mycroft were apparently just going through the motions throughout the entire Fall episode, essentially meaning that they were never in danger.  However, Magnussen managed to leave Sherlock with no other option than to kill him, basically ensuring Sherlock spend his life in prison at best.  In other words, Magnussen did a much, much better job pinning Sherlock in a corner.
 
2014-02-04 08:11:12 PM  

Soulcatcher: That's Fn adorable.

What can't the Batch do?

=]


So I watched that and put myself in the mind of Benedict Cumberbatch, famous and talented actor.  He studied and practiced acting for years and what does he wind up doing?  Counting fruit on a foreign nation's kids' TV show?

Oddly enough, even phrasing it that way doesn't make it any less awesome.

/Hopefully, there will be more Benedict Cumberbatch on Sesame Street.
 
2014-02-04 08:27:29 PM  

Doogled: MOAR SPOILERS

Two ways in which the third season ruined Reichenbauch Fall:

1) The rooftop scene no longer makes any sense at all.

2) Magnussen is actually the better nemesis than Moriarty.


In my opinion, both of these actually make the series better.  Moriarty occurs in Doyle's œuvre only twice, yet he is in every stinkin' adaptation of Sherlock Holmes.  What's worse, he's usually in every story of them, even ones where he shouldn't be.

They got the Moriarty hit over quickly so that they wouldn't have to keep putting him in the series, and they seem to be showing that other types of villains can also challenge Sherlock.

All of this is a welcome change.
 
2014-02-04 08:30:55 PM  
Just saw the finale last night.  From the first scene with Magnussen, I was wondering why nobody had just killed him.  Overall, I was disappointed by the this whole season.
 
2014-02-04 08:34:49 PM  

Surool: Why didn't they get the guy from Elementary to do this? Oh, right. It sucks.


You must love Deus ex machina
 
2014-02-04 08:40:59 PM  

RatMaster999: Just saw the finale last night.  From the first scene with Magnussen, I was wondering why nobody had just killed him.  Overall, I was disappointed by the this whole season.


I think the reason that nobody killed him is because he made it known to some extent that he had information that could crush them; i.e. - it would be traced back to them too quickly. Sherlock was a convenient patsy.
 
2014-02-04 08:49:13 PM  

Doogled: Soulcatcher: mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)

I totally agree about Andrew Scott. Initially I didn't really know what to make of his interpretation of Moriarty, but he really grows on you. He was excellent in "The Reichenbach Fall". He stole the BAFTA out from under Martin Freeman for that episode.

Too bad the third season basically shiat on all the greatness of "The Reichenbach Fall".  So sad.


No. The plots in Season 3 have been as complex (and as silly) as the Holmes novels. (Has nobody read the originals?)
 
2014-02-04 08:53:12 PM  

andrewagill: They got the Moriarty hit over quickly so that they wouldn't have to keep putting him in the series, and they seem to be showing that other types of villains can also challenge Sherlock.


I agree. Every Holmes pastiche zeroes in on two of the original characters: Irene Adler and Moriarty. Enough!
 
2014-02-04 08:55:48 PM  
What a dumbass, it only took me like 20 seconds to figure it out.
 
2014-02-04 09:43:27 PM  

yakmans_dad: Doogled: Soulcatcher: mariner314: That was great!

"Did you miss me?"

/wife and I both said yes Sunday night :)

I totally agree about Andrew Scott. Initially I didn't really know what to make of his interpretation of Moriarty, but he really grows on you. He was excellent in "The Reichenbach Fall". He stole the BAFTA out from under Martin Freeman for that episode.

Too bad the third season basically shiat on all the greatness of "The Reichenbach Fall".  So sad.

No. The plots in Season 3 have been as complex (and as silly) as the Holmes novels. (Has nobody read the originals?)


Not in years, I need to go get a good collection of them, or just see if they're on  www.gutenberg.org  and download them
 
2014-02-04 09:44:21 PM  
Looks like I don't have to search hard, for the hell of it I put Sherlock holmes Ebooks and got this 

http://sherlock-holm.es/
 
2014-02-04 09:56:33 PM  

mariner314: Hounds is possibly the weakest. That or the blind banker.


Blind Banker is the worst of the lot.  The nonsense about ceramic teapots needing to be used or they will crumble actually made me want to do violence to my TV.  There are so many things like that in that episode that it make Baskervilles seem completely plausible in every respect.
 
2014-02-04 10:00:36 PM  
"His Last Vow" has taken the place of "A Scandel in Belgravia" as my favorite Sherlock episode, but only by the slightest margin.

I show my daughter this clip and she wanted to watch it over and over again.  I made her stop after 4 times.

...which is more than 3.
 
2014-02-04 10:02:59 PM  

loonatic112358: Not in years, I need to go get a good collection of them, or just see if they're on www.gutenberg.org and download them


They're on Gutenberg as well.

My only advice to anyone who hasn't read them is: don't start with "A Study in Scarlet" is it's a really unlikely story and the characters aren't fully formed.
 
2014-02-04 10:04:23 PM  

andrewagill: Soulcatcher: That's Fn adorable.

What can't the Batch do?

=]

So I watched that and put myself in the mind of Benedict Cumberbatch, famous and talented actor.  He studied and practiced acting for years and what does he wind up doing?  Counting fruit on a foreign nation's kids' TV show?

Oddly enough, even phrasing it that way doesn't make it any less awesome.

/Hopefully, there will be more Benedict Cumberbatch on Sesame Street.


Not too odd. After all, "The Muppet Show" was a British television show and was well known over there. Plus Sesame Street is a world wide franchise.
 
2014-02-04 10:08:17 PM  
bborchar: "His Last Vow" has taken the place of "A Scandel in Belgravia" as my favorite Sherlock episode, but only by the slightest margin.

For me it's tie between "A Scandal in Belgravia" and "The Sign of Three" as my favorite Sherlock episode with "His Last Vow" a close second.
 
2014-02-04 10:29:03 PM  
Sherlock fans got as bad as Doctor Who fans in record time.
 
2014-02-04 10:38:09 PM  

mat catastrophe: Sherlock fans got as bad as Doctor Who fans in record time.


That's either a pretty good troll, or you should stop and think about what you've just said for a moment.
 
2014-02-04 11:43:09 PM  

Doogled: In other words, Magnussen did a much, much better job pinning Sherlock in a corner.

Nobody puts Benny in a corner
 
2014-02-04 11:50:27 PM  
btw any thread being greenlit on the news that house of cards is getting renewed for a 3rd season?
 
2014-02-05 12:20:22 AM  

loonatic112358: Surool: Why didn't they get the guy from Elementary to do this? Oh, right. It sucks.

You must love Deus ex machina


You must loved 'mericanized garbage.
 
2014-02-05 12:50:15 AM  
So when does Sherlock and Watson shack up?
 
2014-02-05 01:07:51 AM  

Richard_The_Clown: Not too odd. After all, "The Muppet Show" was a British television show and was well known over there.


Henson tried to get the Muppet Show done here in the States, but no one would give him the budget he wanted.  ABC wanted the show, but would only commit if they could do it in syndication and cheaper.

Lord Lew "Low" Grade, who owned ITV, wanted to sell shows in the American market.  So he agreed to produce the Muppet Show as he knew ABC would buy it.  This resulted in the American puppeteers and support staff moving to the UK and working with mostly American hosts.

So it was and it wasn't a British TV show.

But on the up-side, it led to Henson (and several others) moving to the UK making films like the Dark Crystal.
 
2014-02-05 02:05:53 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: But on the up-side, it led to Henson (and several others) moving to the UK making films like the Dark Crystal.


It probably helped make Yoda possible, too, since it put Frank Oz in the same studio that The Empire Strikes Back was shot.
 
2014-02-05 02:36:46 AM  

andrewagill: Soulcatcher: That's Fn adorable.

What can't the Batch do?

=]

So I watched that and put myself in the mind of Benedict Cumberbatch, famous and talented actor.  He studied and practiced acting for years and what does he wind up doing?  Counting fruit on a foreign nation's kids' TV show?

Oddly enough, even phrasing it that way doesn't make it any less awesome.

/Hopefully, there will be more Benedict Cumberbatch on Sesame Street.


Hundreds if not thousands of people who are leaders in their field are happy and proud to appear on Sesame Street.
 
2014-02-05 05:32:36 AM  

Nogale: Hundreds if not thousands of people who are leaders in their field are happy and proud to appear on Sesame Street.


That was actually my conclusion above as well.
 
2014-02-05 05:53:17 AM  
I'm disappointed that there was no Sherlock Hemlock:

31.media.tumblr.com

Also, didn't he say in his Reddit takeover he wanted to work with Oscar the Grouch as well?

Finally, Count Von Count just isn't the same without Jerry Nelson. He's a pale imitation of his former self.

/sketch was cute though
 
2014-02-05 12:33:52 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: mariner314: Hounds is possibly the weakest. That or the blind banker.

Blind Banker is the worst of the lot.  The nonsense about ceramic teapots needing to be used or they will crumble actually made me want to do violence to my TV.  There are so many things like that in that episode that it make Baskervilles seem completely plausible in every respect.


Yeah, the completely implausible and somewhat racist idea that a man shouting sarcastically "I'm Sherlock Holmes" at a locked door is a basis for identification. Also, doing violence to John Watson's characterization in the second episode - he is a dick in a grocery store, falls asleep at work, picks up an ASBO, and seems to wildly swing between completely oblivious and more clever than expected at various times, all simply to drive a particularly dense and idiotic plot.

There were just so many things about that episode that were just off-putting, from the skeevy museum guy, to the pointless banker type, the racist dialogue/accents, and uneven pacing. I mean, it has its moments, but still, it's very uneven.
 
Displayed 50 of 54 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter








In Other Media
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report