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(The Daily Beast)   To all the Coca-Cola Super Bowl ad haters aghast at the notion of using a foreign language to express the idea of togetherness, I have only three words for you: e pluribus unum   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 344
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2014-02-04 08:15:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: uber humper: What they need to say in as many languages as possible is "drinking soda on a regular basis is as deadly as smoking".

Why would they lie?


No lie. Heart disease along with diabetes, Alzheimer's and other metabolic syndromes. Sugar will kill.

Heart Association's recomendation for sugar is 100 calories per day for women and 150 per day for men. One can Coke is 140 from sugar.
 
2014-02-04 08:15:44 PM

redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.


Second-generation immigrants speak crappy Spanish. Third-generation immigrants speak no Spanish at all. This is as true in Florida and California as anywhere else.
 
2014-02-04 08:15:54 PM

scottydoesntknow: Vector R: lostcat: scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.

The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.

I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.

I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language, but for some bass-ackwards reason, it's not okay or "racist" to suggest it. We can have diversity and assimilation at the same time - my ancestors managed to learn English to function in this country, and yet we still maintain some of our culture from our native lands. We didn't demand everyone honor our traditions or speak our language.

Do I have to spell this out for you?!

It is NOT THE NATIONAL ANTHEM! That's the main reason people are calling you a farking moron.

There are others, but that's definitely the main one.


No, you didn't. I find it amusing that it took this thread to introduce me to the kerfluffle over the commercial, though.

/had to be at the gym in 26 minutes during the superb owl
//farking pool was still busy
///People can still feel free to speak English in this country
 
2014-02-04 08:18:40 PM

ZeroCorpse: uber humper: What they need to say in as many languages as possible is "drinking soda on a regular basis is as deadly as smoking".

As long as you don't have to inhale my second-hand cola fizz, I think it's a bit better.


You're also  need to consider it's a gateway beverage First Coke, then Mountain Dew, then Rock Star...
 
2014-02-04 08:19:54 PM

ZeroCorpse: I need to stop using some variation of "seriously" to start sentences when I'm in a peeved mood. Seriously.


I know, right?
 
2014-02-04 08:21:58 PM
I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.
 
2014-02-04 08:22:19 PM
Why haven't Americans changed the name of their language to plain "American" yet?  "It's America, speak English!" always makes me laugh.  They have no right to protectiveness over a language that isn't even theirs and that they've butchered to near-incomprehensibility over the centuries.
 
2014-02-04 08:22:35 PM
Are people aware that even if the national language were English, Americans would still be free to speak sing whatever the fark they want in whatever language they want?
 
2014-02-04 08:22:38 PM

mbillips: redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.

Second-generation immigrants speak crappy Spanish. Third-generation immigrants speak no Spanish at all. This is as true in Florida and California as anywhere else.


I agree. Texas, too. Except for the small towns on the border areas where English is just not spoken but that is to be expected.

I feel this also goes for the average age a woman becomes a mother. More generations out, the older the first time mother is.
 
2014-02-04 08:23:45 PM

ZeroCorpse: I need to stop using some variation of "seriously" to start sentences when I'm in a peeved mood. Seriously.


Actually, it's virtually impossible to stop yourself from saying seriously - literally.
 
2014-02-04 08:23:50 PM
speaksing
 
2014-02-04 08:24:26 PM
Damn, I give up. Sorry, mods!
 
2014-02-04 08:27:54 PM

duckpoopy: I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.


yeah that gets funnier every year
 
2014-02-04 08:30:58 PM
imageshack.com

What can I say?  Derpers gonna derp.

Besides, the only Coke that Republicans ever cared about was the crap going up their noses.
 
2014-02-04 08:31:00 PM

spamdog: duckpoopy: I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.

yeah that gets funnier every year


So, you're saying that by 2078, it will be funny? A little?
 
2014-02-04 08:34:12 PM
We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.  Coke was trolling; they got the expected and desired response.  Their defenders are pretending it was unexpected and not desired; that doesn't make them heroic or novel.  It just makes them shiat-stirrers.
 
2014-02-04 08:35:58 PM
In a couple of years it'll be:

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.
 
2014-02-04 08:37:08 PM
Is it possible that everything that is possible has already happened?  I don't mean to threadjack but.....
 
2014-02-04 08:39:43 PM
Sic semper tyrannii?
 
2014-02-04 08:40:03 PM

JSam21: lostcat: So umm...I think the point of referring to "E pluribus Unum" isn't what it means, it's that even though English is our official language, we still use Latin (a non-English language) on our currency and other marks of state.

Ummm there is no official language of the United States of America.


It may amuse you to hear that some people find this fact astonishing.  The few times the topic has come up with Chileans, they've been amazed to hear that the USA has no official language.
 
2014-02-04 08:40:58 PM
Meh whatever I'm drinking soda stream like Scarlet Johansen said to.
 
2014-02-04 08:41:55 PM

skinink: I bet a lot of these people getting angry over the Coke ad have no idea how unwelcomed their forefathers used to be in America.
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That's a good point!

 (part of me would like to see people like Ted Cruz, Sean Hannity & Bill O'Reilly sent back in time to meet people like Mr. Poole here....)
 
2014-02-04 08:46:11 PM

stanhapsburg: Romanes eunt domus.


Romans ain't dumbass?
 
2014-02-04 08:47:48 PM
Did not see the ad, and I'm almost sorry I missed it, but I'm not a fan of stimulated interests like professional sports, be them at the level of the NFL, NBA or college level professionals.  It's my belief that our obsession with sports costs us more than tobacco and alcohol use, and seems to fuel both of them.

That being said, the BEST version of America the Beautiful I have ever heard was on Prarie Home Companion, sung by (and I'll fark up the spelling really good here) the King Kamemaheama High School Glee club Choir.  In Hawiian.

In the USA we have a long and colorful history of seriously bullshiat arguements, but I'll be damned if this is not one of the dumbest I've ever heard.

On top of Pike's Peak she was inspired, while teaching at Colorado College.  Climbing the peak is almost, but not quite a requirement for graduation....
 
2014-02-04 08:49:13 PM

Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.


Canada disagrees, in English and French, politely.
 
2014-02-04 08:52:25 PM

Ant: ricbach229: Am I the only one that thought it was just a bad commercial on it's own?  The product wasn't pitched and it was just a long multicultural sing a long without context.

The product is sugary carbonated water with flavoring. There's not much to say about the actual product. All pop/soda commercials are stupid and nonsensical.


Sort of agree, maybe.. Mt Dew actually connects their caffeinated product pretty well to making your fat ass want to do X Games stuff, kind of like Red Bull.  Dr. Pepper is doing the mountain man thing but at least their saying "Drink this diet drink and you'll still be a rugged man like this guy" so they are trying to pitch the product (diet drinks) to a non diet drinking audience (men who tend to hate diet everything).

Coke's commercial was different, it basically said "Drink this because all cultures are equal in America".  Without totally diving into the rabbit hole, that logic is flawed.  Some cultures don't work as well as others, it's obvious when you look at the world that some countries are basket cases.  When you see the people who refuse to pick up the native language it's the most outward symbol of rejecting any effort to integrate into the melting pot of America. The melting pot only works if people try to integrate and pick up the better social values we offer while keeping the better social values they have, a sort of social values Darwinism.  When a person or group push off the broader American culture it creates enclaves like the barrios and Chinatowns where immigrants aren't able to avail themselves of the broader opportunities because they've transplanted their home culture as wholly as possible and isolated themselves from the opportunities.
 
2014-02-04 08:54:41 PM
Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.
 
2014-02-04 08:58:17 PM

RedPhoenix122: That's the 2nd article this week from The Daily Beast that makes sense.  WTF is going on?


Tina Brown's contract ran out and they replaced her with an editor-in-chief who isn't coasting on a reputation earned 30 years ago.
 
2014-02-04 08:59:01 PM

Need_MindBleach: You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.


A soft drink commercial isn't going to balkanize anything.
 
2014-02-04 09:00:25 PM
I like how everyone assumes that the people singing in another language don't speak English. Language is just one way to show diversity. All the people in the commercial (though actors) may be fluent English speakers but their parents were immigrants, so they also speak another language as well.

Are these people who hate immigrants/diversity/other languages fighting hard to get language studies out of schools? Forget trying to learn a second language in school, what are you, a traitor? ENGLISH! fark YA.
 
2014-02-04 09:00:34 PM

felching pen: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

Canada disagrees, in English and French, politely.


Canada, the country that holds referendums on whether the country should split on two every dozen years?
 
2014-02-04 09:00:56 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In a couple of years it'll be:

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.


My guess they'll call it Super Bowl 50 and just use numbers from there on out. The Roman numerals get more awkward (LIV? LIX? LIC?) and the novelty has long worn off.
 
2014-02-04 09:01:01 PM
Bullseyed:
Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad.

Want to point out where I said anything about Republicans? Conservatives? Anything about political bent in the slightest?
 
2014-02-04 09:03:27 PM

Need_MindBleach: felching pen: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

Canada disagrees, in English and French, politely.

Canada, the country that holds referendums on whether the country should split on two every dozen years?


*in two, farking tablets.
 
2014-02-04 09:05:42 PM
Coca-Cola is a worldwide phenomenon. Their trademark is one of the most valuable on the planet. It's only right that they advertise with multiple languages and recognize that the US (like many other countries) has many languages spoken within its borders. What's funny is the "ferners" speak usually better English than the English-Only crowd.
 
2014-02-04 09:06:23 PM

jshine: No, our country will be strongest when everyone speaks different & mutually-incomprehensible languages. Successful communication only leads to frustration and anger.


You do know that it is possible for a single person to speak more than one language, right?

/¿Sabes que es posible hablar más de una lengua, verdad?
 
2014-02-04 09:07:40 PM

SunsetLament: We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.


Yeah, it's "Coke defenders" that are clutching pearls over this whole ordeal.
 
2014-02-04 09:08:01 PM
I much preferred the article about how Coca Cola was preying on the most weak and vulnerable recent immigrants with the ad, by pushing their sugar laden death fluid on them.
 
2014-02-04 09:08:22 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In a couple of years it'll be:

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.


drewblood.com
 
2014-02-04 09:11:32 PM

wiredroach: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In a couple of years it'll be

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.

[drewblood.com image 286x286]


That's pretty good
 
2014-02-04 09:11:55 PM

SunsetLament: We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.  Coke was trolling; they got the expected and desired response.  Their defenders are pretending it was unexpected and not desired; that doesn't make them heroic or novel.  It just makes them shiat-stirrers.


Are there that many Coke Defenders here? Most are just "Hey look. The lowest common denominators lived down to expectations."
It was not unexpected, unfortunately, and most seem to bare that our. There is very little heroic in defending xenophobia and hiding it behind patriotism.
The only pearl-clutchers are the ones up thread yelling liberal plant. And their defenders.

This commercial could very well be a sort of Rorschach test for a person. What they see in it is a reflection of what is in their heart. If you have hope, you see hope. If you have fear, you see your own fears reflected back at you.


Calling an idiot an idiot is not an attack. Reporting facts about politician does not make a new source biased.
 
2014-02-04 09:14:42 PM

Kit Fister: However, when you open your doors to strangers who have their own cultures and their own languages, and you don't ask that they make an effort to assimilate, you're going to end up with divisions because no one trusts each other, the various tribes stay with their own, and you end up with strife. If you want to promote harmony, then there has to be a few points of agreed-upon common ground to which all people must assimilate.


You said 'assimilate' twice.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-04 09:14:50 PM
I find the taste of Coke way more offensive than any of there commercials.
 
2014-02-04 09:16:06 PM

cameroncrazy1984: TV's Vinnie: then you see all the adverts of Santa Claus, the Haddon Sunblom version of Santa that was designed for Coke.

Wrong. Haddon Sunblom didn't design Santa Claus for Coke; that image existed long before Coke used it in an advert.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom
 
2014-02-04 09:16:53 PM

Kibbler: List of people who demand you speak their language:


1. 'MURCANS
 
2014-02-04 09:18:01 PM

spamdog: peacheslatour: Why should not acknowledge it and in fact be proud of it? I know I am.

Good for you! But do you really need to attack people (or maybe just caricatures of people) who don't share your view? People whose culture inculcates them with a fear and suspicion of foreigners or outsiders?

Can you understand that cultural change might make some people feel threatened, no matter how irrational it might seem to you?

Do you think smashing people over the head with it and calling them bigots when they don't see it your way is going to make them more adversarial, or less? Do you really want to further a cultural divide over something as insipid as a Coca Cola ad?


Feeling threatened is one thing.  Fighting against change is another thing entirely.

When people are uncomfortable with or unsettled by progress, compassion and encouragement are the appropriate response.  When people attack progress, fighting back is the appropriate response.
 
2014-02-04 09:18:24 PM

Need_MindBleach: Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.


This is a rather amusing concern troll.

Immersion is a very strong force. You end up picking up English here because it's all around you. And if the first generation doesn't speak it fluently, the second generation will, and the third generation won't know anything other than English without a lot of work.
 
2014-02-04 09:19:41 PM
But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

Pretty much everyone?
 
2014-02-04 09:20:31 PM

SunsetLament: We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.  Coke was trolling; they got the expected and desired response.  Their defenders are pretending it was unexpected and not desired; that doesn't make them heroic or novel.  It just makes them shiat-stirrers.


I'm not "defending" Coke, I'm applauding them - their actions don't require any defense. They may indeed have played this for a deliberate reaction, and I applaud them for it - a small, ugly, stupid portion of their consumer base that they can afford to blow off got pissed and gave them free publicity - it's a well deserved win-win for Coke, and it couldn't come at the expense of a lower bunch of assholes - the un-American haters of the "English-only" movement.
 
2014-02-04 09:20:55 PM
So, "e" in Latin translates to "out of"? I had figured it just meant "from".

From many, one.
 
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