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(The Daily Beast)   To all the Coca-Cola Super Bowl ad haters aghast at the notion of using a foreign language to express the idea of togetherness, I have only three words for you: e pluribus unum   (thedailybeast.com ) divider line
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2014-02-04 04:21:23 PM  
That's the 2nd article this week from The Daily Beast that makes sense.  WTF is going on?
 
2014-02-04 04:28:16 PM  
Latin is different

We English speakers are raised to believe it is the most superior of all languages.
 
2014-02-04 04:34:21 PM  
 e pluribus unum ??

Say it in English, subby!!!
 
2014-02-04 04:40:56 PM  
Stop using that damn hippie language, you moonbats!
 
2014-02-04 04:42:09 PM  
The entire coke controversy in a single gif:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-04 04:46:20 PM  

vudukungfu: e pluribus unum ??

Say it in English, subby!!!


Those sound like worship words; only a real 'murkun can speak them. But at least I get to reuse these:

img.fark.netimg.fark.net

/not only for the Kochs, but for the Pepsi Generation as well.
 
2014-02-04 04:48:54 PM  
I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.
 
2014-02-04 04:49:43 PM  
e pluribus unum

Isn't that like French for "please iron these plaid trousers" ?
 
2014-02-04 04:53:34 PM  
The thing I found the most amusing about this whole thing?

The idiots on twitter who were complaining about how you shouldn't allow the national anthem to be sung in foreign languages.
 
2014-02-04 04:55:24 PM  
You said three WORDS dumbass, not that chingchong talk.
 
2014-02-04 04:56:05 PM  
E fartibus bongum.
 
2014-02-04 04:58:41 PM  

RexTalionis: The thing I found the most amusing about this whole thing?

The idiots on twitter who were complaining about how you shouldn't allow the national anthem to be sung in foreign languages.


This, too

WrestleMania uses it instead of using the National Anthem. Maybe that's why they are confused. Stupid wrestling fans.
 
2014-02-04 05:02:07 PM  
I'm getting a little fatigued with "Look what this gibbering butthole said on the interwebby!" "news stories."  Half of my friends posts on Facebook are them sharing the ignorance of some fountain of derp that I would have otherwise been and preferred to have remained gleefully ignorant of.

That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.
 
2014-02-04 05:03:24 PM  

brap: That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-04 05:04:52 PM  

brap: I'm getting a little fatigued with "Look what this gibbering butthole said on the interwebby!" "news stories."  Half of my friends posts on Facebook are them sharing the ignorance of some fountain of derp that I would have otherwise been and preferred to have remained gleefully ignorant of.

That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.


Gotta start somewhere.

The Berlin Wall fell due to a gaffe. Its how you take advantage that matters.
 
2014-02-04 05:09:40 PM  
befoundonline.com
 
2014-02-04 05:19:08 PM  

cman: Latin is different

We English speakers are raised to believe it is the most superior of all languages.


Quid, quid latin dictum sit altum videtur

Quit, quit latin dictator sit tall and view the tour.
 
2014-02-04 05:30:50 PM  
www.treksinscifi.com
e plab nista for all
 
2014-02-04 05:44:47 PM  
I for one am enjoying the pants shiatting tantrum. Please proceed, bigots. While I enjoy my generic supermarket soda.
 
2014-02-04 05:47:59 PM  
Ille non dicit in Latinus.
 
2014-02-04 06:00:30 PM  
The vast majority of those tweets were sarcastic.
 
2014-02-04 06:02:27 PM  
Subby, take your damn miscegenetic mongrels and move back to Vatican City where you came from!!1!
 
2014-02-04 06:04:16 PM  

Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.


I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.
 
2014-02-04 06:04:47 PM  
And one of those languages was a native language that dates back to well before our white asses got here.
Damn foreigners!
 
2014-02-04 06:06:05 PM  

Russ1642: The vast majority of those tweets were sarcastic.


Yeah right.  Next thing you'll be telling me is that Coke expected the controversy and that both the "outrage" and the "outrage at the outrage" stories were written before the game was over.
 
2014-02-04 06:08:20 PM  

RexTalionis: brap: That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x341]


Oh come on. The hell with world peace through soda. Spice it up with some Nazi-developed, world-domination uber soda


blog.rentshare.com

Fanta originated as a result of difficulties importing Coca-Cola syrup into Nazi Germany during World War II due to a trade embargo. To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH) during the Second World War, decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time, including whey and pomace - the "leftovers of leftovers", as Keith later recalled. The name was the result of a brief brainstorming session, which started with Keith exhorting his team to "use their imagination" ("Fantasie" in German), to which one of his salesmen, Joe Knipp, immediately retorted "Fanta!"

While the plant was effectively cut off from Coca Cola headquarters during the war, plant management did not join the Nazi Party. After the war, the Coca Cola corporation regained control of the plant, formula and the trademarks to the new Fanta product - as well as the plant profits made during the war.
 
2014-02-04 06:08:23 PM  
That commercial wasn't a harbinger of the destruction of America at the hands of evil foreigners, and it wasn't an inspiring message of harmony and tolerance. That commercial has one message only, and that message is "Buy our sugar water."
 
2014-02-04 06:08:23 PM  
"The quote on the Statue of Liberty doesn't say 'give me your English-speaking only, Christianity-believing, heterosexual masses.'"

Atlanta anchor's 2-minute rant destroys 'Christianity-believing' Coca-Cola ad haters
 
2014-02-04 06:09:57 PM  

cman: RexTalionis: The thing I found the most amusing about this whole thing?

The idiots on twitter who were complaining about how you shouldn't allow the national anthem to be sung in foreign languages.

This, too

WrestleMania uses it instead of using the National Anthem. Maybe that's why they are confused. Stupid wrestling fans.


Wait, I thought "I Am A Real American" was the national anthem.
 
2014-02-04 06:10:06 PM  
My aunt and uncle took immediate exception to this, with my uncle even going so far as to say "If you want to honor our rich cultural heritage, do it in MY language." Buh?

I was surprised to hear Ben Gleck going on and on about it on his radio show yesterday too. Apparently my aunt and uncle have been very well trained. Like my dogs, they knew what was expected of them even before the master spoke.

I didn't really give it a second thought until everyone started going on and on about it.

/The point was only to sell caramel-colored sugar water, ya paranoid nards...
 
2014-02-04 06:10:08 PM  
noli transi flumina.
 
2014-02-04 06:12:37 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: RexTalionis: brap: That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x341]

Oh come on. The hell with world peace through soda. Spice it up with some Nazi-developed, world-domination uber soda


[blog.rentshare.com image 425x319]

Fanta originated as a result of difficulties importing Coca-Cola syrup into Nazi Germany during World War II due to a trade embargo. To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH) during the Second World War, decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time, including whey and pomace - the "leftovers of leftovers", as Keith later recalled. The name was the result of a brief brainstorming session, which started with Keith exhorting his team to "use their imagination" ("Fantasie" in German), to which one of his salesmen, Joe Knipp, immediately retorted "Fanta!"

While the plant was effectively cut off from Coca Cola headquarters during the war, plant management did not join the Nazi Party. After the war, the Coca Cola corporation regained control of the plant, formula and the trademarks to the new Fanta product - as well as the plant profits made during the war.


Every single time I see that image, all I see is the red Fanta girl's freakish arm.

psdpics.s3.amazonaws.com

What has been seen can not be unseen.
 
2014-02-04 06:12:41 PM  
Out of many, one? THAT'S COMMIE TALK!
 
2014-02-04 06:13:02 PM  

cman: Stupid wrestling fans.


The Department of Redundancy called...
 
2014-02-04 06:13:10 PM  

Weaver95: the GOP...Anger is kinda their default setting.


No shiat. They constantly, actively, go out of their way to find reasons to be offended. Surprise! They usually find reasons to be offended.
 
2014-02-04 06:13:14 PM  
Outrage over a commercial is idiotic, likewise anyone who thinks the country can be successful with a bunch of disparete cultures and languages is ignoring the entirity of human history. We're a melting pot because different cultures adapt themselves to America and add their own individual spice; the country didn't adapt to the other culture.
 
2014-02-04 06:14:41 PM  
In America, only immigrants or those descended from immigrants speaks English.
 
2014-02-04 06:15:01 PM  
Oh people...

English isn't going anywhere anytime soon. No need to get all freaked out and defensive about it.

Even in developing nations in SE Asia, where China is buying up all the property and dumping tons of money, people are not going out of their way to learn Mandarin. They are still focused on English as the transactional language of business.

If people all over the world still view English as the language you have to learn to do business internationally, then I don't think we here in the US need to worry that we'll see English replaced anytime soon.

And do people really prefer to live in a world were everyone around them looks and talks exactly the same? How depressingly boring and xenophobic. I moved away from a tiny town like that when I was in my teens. In my head, that town changed along with me. But I guess I know, in my heart, that if I went back there again, it would still be the same white faces and lazy accents on every street. I wonder if they've even opened a single Thai restaurant within the county.
 
2014-02-04 06:15:28 PM  
"Out of many, one" language.

That language is English.
 
2014-02-04 06:15:54 PM  
You really thing that argument will work?

"Out of many, one." That "one" is English. They're supposed to come here and learn English.

That kinda derp just writes itself.
 
2014-02-04 06:17:43 PM  
I like this "controversy." It makes it very easy to spot the assholes on your Facebook feed. Anyone who had a problem with that Coke ad is an instant unfriend.
 
2014-02-04 06:18:08 PM  

BafflerMeal: "The quote on the Statue of Liberty doesn't say 'give me your English-speaking only, Christianity-believing, heterosexual masses.'"

Atlanta anchor's 2-minute rant destroys 'Christianity-believing' Coca-Cola ad haters


baahahahahaha.
awesome!
 
2014-02-04 06:19:21 PM  
Latin is not a foreign language, it is the basis of a large portion of the english language.
 
2014-02-04 06:20:00 PM  
Caesar adsum iam forti, Brutus aderat. Caesar sic in omnibus, Brutus in his at.
 
2014-02-04 06:20:54 PM  
My IQ has gone up 30 points since I started muting the TV during all advertising. The best advertising is still advertising.

/i'm up to 55!
 
2014-02-04 06:21:22 PM  

netweavr: You really thing that argument will work?

"Out of many, one." That "one" is English. They're supposed to come here and learn English.

That kinda derp just writes itself.


I appreciate the message the commercial conveyed. I didn't like the commercial. I've always been in support of a national language.

All 14 people at our Super Bowl party in the great blue King County Seattle were all like, "what the fark is this shiat?".
 
2014-02-04 06:21:31 PM  

2chris2: Latin is not a foreign language, it is the basis of a large portion of the english language.


You can tell someone has a huge ego if they use Latin.
 
2014-02-04 06:22:13 PM  
I'll give you my Mexican Coke when you pry it from my cold, dead hands
 
2014-02-04 06:22:25 PM  

cman: Latin is different

We English speakers are raised to believe it is the most superior of all languages.


It's also a dead language, now used only for ceremonial purposes.
 
2014-02-04 06:22:39 PM  

cman: Latin is different

We English speakers are raised to believe it is the most superior of all languages.


And, despite our technology they would still look down on us for letting the plebs run things, and snipping penises like desert-dwelling barbarian goatfarkers and Gyppo alligator-worshippers. And for not simply beating Ted Cruz on the Senate floor. We do not do things properly here and now.
 
2014-02-04 06:22:40 PM  
 But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.
 
2014-02-04 06:25:03 PM  
Pretty sure they calculated that there would be a handful of derpy responses and a tidal wave of judgemental liberal dicks eager to find someone to call a bigot.

Looks like they got their maths right.
 
2014-02-04 06:25:05 PM  

Twilight Farkle: vudukungfu: e pluribus unum ??

Say it in English, subby!!!

Those sound like worship words; only a real 'murkun can speak them. But at least I get to reuse these:

[img.fark.net image 245x169][img.fark.net image 245x169]

/not only for the Kochs, but for the Pepsi Generation as well.


That's the joke.
 
2014-02-04 06:25:10 PM  
They weren't foreign languages - they were American languages.
 
2014-02-04 06:26:17 PM  
And the meaning of the Latin phrase has been lost here....especially the unum part.
 
2014-02-04 06:26:27 PM  
The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.
 
2014-02-04 06:26:39 PM  
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Honkies are funny.

America was named for an Italian cartographer, Amerigo Vespucci.
There are places named San Antonio, Sacramento, and my favorite name for an American city: El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles.
Not to mention all the names from Native American tribes used for states, cities, counties, and so on.

So, seriously, tell me about how scared you guys are about foreigeners coming from overseas to wipe out your culture, lifestyle, spiritual beliefs, bringing diseases, vices, and hot ethnic women to corrupt the menfolk, and horny men to rape the cattle and stampede the women.  I'll listen to every fear you have in silence, and when you finish, then I'll call you something horrible in Comanche, and kick you square in the nuts and laugh long and hard.
 
2014-02-04 06:26:53 PM  

Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.


Didn't you hear? Obama is creating fake snow!!!
 
2014-02-04 06:26:56 PM  

Watubi: I'll give you my Mexican Coke when you pry it from my cold, dead hands


We keep having taste tests with USA Coke and Mexican Coke to see which one we like best. Unfortunately, we can always tell which one is the USA Coke.  So we just enjoy them both. Like the little taco girl says, why not both.
 
2014-02-04 06:29:00 PM  

lostcat: Oh people...

English isn't going anywhere anytime soon. No need to get all freaked out and defensive about it.

Even in developing nations in SE Asia, where China is buying up all the property and dumping tons of money, people are not going out of their way to learn Mandarin. They are still focused on English as the transactional language of business.

If people all over the world still view English as the language you have to learn to do business internationally, then I don't think we here in the US need to worry that we'll see English replaced anytime soon.

And do people really prefer to live in a world were everyone around them looks and talks exactly the same? How depressingly boring and xenophobic. I moved away from a tiny town like that when I was in my teens. In my head, that town changed along with me. But I guess I know, in my heart, that if I went back there again, it would still be the same white faces and lazy accents on every street. I wonder if they've even opened a single Thai restaurant within the county.


Yeah, but it also helps to know any of the following languages in addition to English for business: French, Mandarin, Arabic, Farsi, Spanish, Hindi, Japanese, Bengali, Russian, or Portuguese. Therefore, America is totally boned forever.
 
2014-02-04 06:30:08 PM  

mariner314: netweavr: You really thing that argument will work?

"Out of many, one." That "one" is English. They're supposed to come here and learn English.

That kinda derp just writes itself.

I appreciate the message the commercial conveyed. I didn't like the commercial. I've always been in support of a national language.

All 14 people at our Super Bowl party in the great blue King County Seattle were all like, "what the fark is this shiat?".


No, our country will be strongest when everyone speaks different & mutually-incomprehensible languages. Successful communication only leads to frustration and anger.
 
2014-02-04 06:30:26 PM  

I bet a lot of these people getting angry over the Coke ad have no idea how unwelcomed their forefathers used to be in America.


tigger.uic.edu

 
2014-02-04 06:32:14 PM  
Uckfay Ouyay.
 
2014-02-04 06:32:31 PM  
Of course they've never heard of it. People that scream "THIS IS MURICA" & "CONSTITUTION" are the people that know the least about both of those things.
 
2014-02-04 06:34:24 PM  
I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.
 
2014-02-04 06:34:33 PM  
Romanes eunt domus.
 
2014-02-04 06:36:03 PM  
Can we shut up and get the fark over the coke commercial already?

I'll break down for the last time what happened:
1) PEPSI bought the entire halftime show.  It was called the Pepsi Halftime Show.
2) Coke needed to do something to compete.
3) Coke is an attention whore.  Any attention is good attention, as it keeps farking retards (just like you!) talking about Coke.
4) Film a controversial commercial, air during the Pepsi Halftime Show.
5) Profit

if you keep your stupid farking mouths going about it, you make it effective, and will cause more ads to be like this.  If you grow up, act like an adult, and get on with your crappy life (along with the other people), then this wouldn't be viewed as effective marketing, and would go away sooner.

But no, you coont tunnel ass bag bullshiat consumer, you have to keep fixated on one thing and ruin it for the rest of us.
 
2014-02-04 06:38:13 PM  

Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.


It's a TV commercial, not a federal mandate.
 
2014-02-04 06:38:37 PM  
 
2014-02-04 06:41:16 PM  

IronJelly: Can we shut up and get the fark over the coke commercial already?

I'll break down for the last time what happened:
1) PEPSI bought the entire halftime show.


0-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2014-02-04 06:41:22 PM  

Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.


I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.
 
2014-02-04 06:42:20 PM  
Heer in muhrika, we'uns talks muhrikan! Gul dangit!
 
2014-02-04 06:42:28 PM  

JeffMD: IronJelly: Can we shut up and get the fark over the coke commercial already?

I'll break down for the last time what happened:
1) PEPSI bought the entire halftime show.

[0-media-cdn.foolz.us image 250x272]


...aand that's why you can't make a reasonable argument.  Great work.  I bet your parents are proud of you, little man.
 
2014-02-04 06:42:37 PM  

lostcat: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

It's a TV commercial, not a federal mandate.


Seriously.  Who exactly is being forced to do anything?
 
2014-02-04 06:42:39 PM  
Bashing something for all the wrong reasons, The American Way
 
2014-02-04 06:42:49 PM  

Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.


Yeah, but have you seen the Cherokee alphabet? That makes Cyrillic look simple. I'm fine with speaking a non-foreign language.
 
2014-02-04 06:44:36 PM  

rebelyell2006: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

Yeah, but have you seen the Cherokee alphabet? That makes Cyrillic look simple. I'm fine with speaking a non-foreign language.


... I mean, I'm fine with speaking a foreign language. We shouldn't make Cherokee or other native tongues the state languages.
 
2014-02-04 06:44:43 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.


The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.
 
2014-02-04 06:45:24 PM  
I think the article nailed it right here:

cdn.thedailybeast.com


This was probably the untold reason they complained about foreign language, instead.
 
2014-02-04 06:45:37 PM  
We're still talking about that?  Great, I get to recycle this:

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-04 06:46:35 PM  

scottydoesntknow: TheShavingofOccam123: RexTalionis: brap: That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x341]

Oh come on. The hell with world peace through soda. Spice it up with some Nazi-developed, world-domination uber soda


[blog.rentshare.com image 425x319]

Fanta originated as a result of difficulties importing Coca-Cola syrup into Nazi Germany during World War II due to a trade embargo. To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH) during the Second World War, decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time, including whey and pomace - the "leftovers of leftovers", as Keith later recalled. The name was the result of a brief brainstorming session, which started with Keith exhorting his team to "use their imagination" ("Fantasie" in German), to which one of his salesmen, Joe Knipp, immediately retorted "Fanta!"

While the plant was effectively cut off from Coca Cola headquarters during the war, plant management did not join the Nazi Party. After the war, the Coca Cola corporation regained control of the plant, formula and the trademarks to the new Fanta product - as well as the plant profits made during the war.

Every single time I see that image, all I see is the red Fanta girl's freakish arm.

[psdpics.s3.amazonaws.com image 296x323]

What has been seen can not be unseen.


goddamn
 
2014-02-04 06:47:41 PM  

mbillips: I like this "controversy." It makes it very easy to spot the assholes on your Facebook feed. Anyone who had a problem with that Coke ad is an instant unfriend.


I've long since pissed those people off until they defriended me. You can only demolish their latest idiocy - and then call them on it when they make the decision to believe unsupported BS anyway - so many times before they can't take it any more. Which I'm perfectly fine with because that's pretty much what I was aiming for.
 
2014-02-04 06:48:44 PM  

IronJelly: if you keep your stupid farking mouths going about it, you make it effective, and will cause more ads to be like this.


I'd be happy with more commercials that piss off conservative bigots and xenophobes. And define "effective"? I still ain't buying Coke products.
 
2014-02-04 06:51:14 PM  

IronJelly: 1) PEPSI bought the entire halftime show. It was called the Pepsi Halftime Show.
2) Coke needed to do something to compete.
3) Coke is an attention whore. Any attention is good attention, as it keeps farking retards (just like you!) talking about Coke.
4) Film a controversial commercial, air during the Pepsi Halftime Show.
5) Profit


At least they didn't use cancer to sell trucks, or veterans to sell "beer."
 
2014-02-04 06:52:32 PM  

IronJelly: Can we shut up and get the fark over the coke commercial already?

I'll break down for the last time what happened:
1) PEPSI bought the entire halftime show.  It was called the Pepsi Halftime Show.
2) Coke needed to do something to compete.
3) Coke is an attention whore.  Any attention is good attention, as it keeps farking retards (just like you!) talking about Coke.
4) Film a controversial commercial, air during the Pepsi Halftime Show.
5) Profit

if you keep your stupid farking mouths going about it, you make it effective, and will cause more ads to be like this.  If you grow up, act like an adult, and get on with your crappy life (along with the other people), then this wouldn't be viewed as effective marketing, and would go away sooner.

But no, you coont tunnel ass bag bullshiat consumer, you have to keep fixated on one thing and ruin it for the rest of us.


Controversial? There wasn't anything at all controversial about the ad. The controversy is entirely the reaction to the ad by a loud and racist few we call republicans.
 
2014-02-04 06:53:23 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: e pluribus unum

Isn't that like French for "please iron these plaid trousers" ?


No, it's Hungarian for "My hovercraft is full of eels."
 
2014-02-04 06:54:45 PM  
I drink Mexican Coke because it tastes better but I can get Mexican Coke and leave the damned Mexicans slaughtering each other in Mexico like their Aztec ancestors.

www.bevreview.com

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-04 06:54:49 PM  

IronJelly: if you keep your stupid farking mouths going about it, you make it effective, and will cause more ads to be like this.


Rational people don't care about "ads like this". Only republicans are getting bent out of shape.
 
2014-02-04 06:55:10 PM  

IronJelly: JeffMD: IronJelly: Can we shut up and get the fark over the coke commercial already?

I'll break down for the last time what happened:
1) PEPSI bought the entire halftime show.

[0-media-cdn.foolz.us image 250x272]

...aand that's why you can't make a reasonable argument.  Great work.  I bet your parents are proud of you, little man.


Why should he have to provide a reasonable argument for such an unreasonable post you made? It's got nothing to do with the rivalry between Coke and Pepsi and to suggest it does means you need to loosen your tin-foil hat.
 
2014-02-04 06:55:32 PM  

Lucky LaRue: [befoundonline.com image 672x650]


eof737.files.wordpress.com
 
Ant
2014-02-04 06:56:10 PM  

vudukungfu: e pluribus unum ??

Say it in English, subby!!!


Out of many, one? Sounds like socialism to me!
 
2014-02-04 06:56:52 PM  

mayIFark: I think the article nailed it right here:

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 800x500]


This was probably the untold reason they complained about foreign language, instead.


I was hoping someone had a screencap of that. Good lord, she's pretty.
 
2014-02-04 06:57:40 PM  

Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.


Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Amusingly too, tthe article makes no sense. From many, one; not from many, many. From many, one means conform or leave.
 
2014-02-04 06:58:34 PM  

Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.


And of course, that isn't the national anthem sung in the commercial.

This is god damn america, not Europe.  By third generation, the kids don't even know their grandparents native language. You want to control over how other people speak, go to Russia.

So you are a troll or a moron. I'll be nice and say troll.  Keep this up, you'll just be a moron.
 
rka
2014-02-04 07:00:16 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: So, seriously, tell me about how scared you guys are about foreigeners coming from overseas to wipe out your culture,


So, seriously. How often do you jump on the latest manufactured media/cultural freak-out de jure and conclude that anyone that matters in life cares about it enough to get on your soapbox?
 
2014-02-04 07:00:46 PM  
Oh the stupid mules are braying. Coke made the ad to get people talking about Coke. They're a multi-billion dollar, international company that cares only about getting more people to buy their product. Anyone who thinks they are pro or anti American is naive. They are pro money.
 
2014-02-04 07:01:01 PM  

Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Amusingly too, tthe article makes no sense. From many, one; not from many, many. From many, one means conform or leave.


So umm...I think the point of referring to "E pluribus Unum" isn't what it means, it's that even though English is our official language, we still use Latin (a non-English language) on our currency and other marks of state.
 
2014-02-04 07:01:16 PM  
"It could not be more clear that the very people who created our country intended it be a place where people of different backgrounds could live together and become one as Americans. "

Unless you were Native American, Black, Irish, Italian, Asian, .....
 
2014-02-04 07:02:06 PM  

brap: I'm getting a little fatigued with "Look what this gibbering butthole said on the interwebby!" "news stories."  Half of my friends posts on Facebook are them sharing the ignorance of some fountain of derp that I would have otherwise been and preferred to have remained gleefully ignorant of.

That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.


This.

Fountain of Derp would be a good band name. They could double bill with Fountains of Wayne.
 
2014-02-04 07:02:15 PM  

ciberido: Eddie Adams from Torrance: e pluribus unum

Isn't that like French for "please iron these plaid trousers" ?

No, it's Hungarian for "My hovercraft is full of eels."


No, it's Vulcan for "the ensign is gassy."
 
2014-02-04 07:02:37 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

And of course, that isn't the national anthem sung in the commercial.



Ha...Good point.
 
2014-02-04 07:02:51 PM  
If you only needed 3 words... .WHY WAS THAT ARTICLE SO LONG!!!
 
Ant
2014-02-04 07:02:53 PM  
abi stultus populus

or something...
 
2014-02-04 07:04:00 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: e pluribus unum

Isn't that like French for "please iron these plaid trousers" ?


It's actually instructions for making salad dressing from the Romans.
 
2014-02-04 07:04:09 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: cman: RexTalionis: The thing I found the most amusing about this whole thing?

The idiots on twitter who were complaining about how you shouldn't allow the national anthem to be sung in foreign languages.

This, too

WrestleMania uses it instead of using the National Anthem. Maybe that's why they are confused. Stupid wrestling fans.

Wait, I thought "I Am A Real American" was the national anthem.


No. It's "America, fark Yeah!"
 
2014-02-04 07:04:36 PM  
I think a lot of negative reactions is because people are sick to death of "diversity" mandates, not necessarily enacted by the state, but by the companies they work for, the marketing they see, and all the left-wingers that use it to club people over the head with. It's tiresome.

If you just want to bash Republicans to puff yourself up a bit, then go right ahead. But don't you feel like a bit of a sheep, bleating the same thing as 95% of everyone here?
 
2014-02-04 07:04:37 PM  

redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.


Yeah people in Florida might want to check out the history on the naming of their state.
 
2014-02-04 07:06:34 PM  
ফার্ক টি পার্টি
 
2014-02-04 07:07:42 PM  

abhorrent1: Of course they've never heard of it. People that scream "THIS IS MURICA" & "CONSTITUTION" are the people that know the least about both of those things.


People who "scream" those things are liberals being bigots pretending to be Republicans.
 
2014-02-04 07:08:51 PM  
phineasazcuy.files.wordpress.com

/ 1971 called - they want their commercial back
 
2014-02-04 07:09:23 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-04 07:09:29 PM  

danknerd: redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.

Yeah people in Florida might want to check out the history on the naming of their state.


Most every state in the union has a name derived from a non-English language. What's your point?
 
2014-02-04 07:09:49 PM  

spamdog: I think a lot of negative reactions is because people are sick to death of "diversity" mandates, not necessarily enacted by the state, but by the companies they work for, the marketing they see, and all the left-wingers that use it to club people over the head with. It's tiresome.

If you just want to bash Republicans to puff yourself up a bit, then go right ahead. But don't you feel like a bit of a sheep, bleating the same thing as 95% of everyone here?


We live in a diverse country, populated by the children of immigrants. Why should not acknowledge it and in fact be proud of it?  I know I am.
 
2014-02-04 07:11:20 PM  

wildcardjack: Eddie Adams from Torrance: e pluribus unum

Isn't that like French for "please iron these plaid trousers" ?

It's actually instructions for making salad dressing from the Romans.


No, it is an Ikea instruction for when the furniture comes in multiple boxes.
 
2014-02-04 07:12:02 PM  

lostcat: Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Amusingly too, tthe article makes no sense. From many, one; not from many, many. From many, one means conform or leave.

So umm...I think the point of referring to "E pluribus Unum" isn't what it means, it's that even though English is our official language, we still use Latin (a non-English language) on our currency and other marks of state.


Ummm there is no official language of the United States of America.
 
2014-02-04 07:12:48 PM  

Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.


Maybe. But honestly, find me one person who is outraged about the commercial itself who is not conservative.
 
2014-02-04 07:12:51 PM  

lostcat: Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Amusingly too, tthe article makes no sense. From many, one; not from many, many. From many, one means conform or leave.

So umm...I think the point of referring to "E pluribus Unum" isn't what it means, it's that even though English is our official language, we still use Latin (a non-English language) on our currency and other marks of state.


You clearly did not read the article then.
 
2014-02-04 07:13:19 PM  
Out of the nearly 500 Facebook 'friends' I follow, I knew to the man which ones would be all pissed off about brown people singing a 'patriotic' song in a foreign language. Most of those I don't even follow in my Facebook feed. Past school friends, old co-workers, and old acquaintances that turned into tea party members and ultra conservative sheep are not worth my time. Almost all were 'owned' by their moderate and progressive friends by trying to defend their myopic points of view. On Coca-Cola's Facebook page, the people that wrote in to boycott or attempt to chastise Coca-Cola were routed in force. Those who attempted to argue that some songs can only be sung in English were crushed. The sheer pwnage of the idiocracy by the more reasonable and tolerant was truly incredible. It was nothing like the usual mix of comments like you might see on YouTube or Yahoo comments section.

The strawman was strong. Conservatives tried unsuccessfully to argue that this was about immigrants learning to speak English. They tried to claim they were 'concerned' that Coca-Cola was 'destroying America by promoting division'. I have yet to hear any singular argument against the context of the commercial that wasn't steeped in the usual fear, hate, prejudice, and bigotry that has come to define this segment of the political sphere.

Why is anybody surprised that 'Daily Beast' is calling for moderation? Anyone paying attention knows that there has been a call from within their own ranks lately, for Republicans to stop being stupid. They have held seminars for candidates to keep from saying stupid sh*t like 'rape', 'uteruses being able to shut down', calling women 'sluts' and from making racist remarks. Still blowing the dog whistle mind you, but telling members to try to make their prejudices a little less obvious and a lot less offensive.

Today on FARK, we have a nice mix of alts, lurkers, and people trying to pretend that the comments and tweets from the right were just 'joking' or that they were really not sincere. The trolls are here as usual, but most of the usual suspects that hang out in the "politics' threads have grown weary of discussing this topic. This article is little more than 'Daily Beast' saying, 'Shut up, you're not helping'.
 
2014-02-04 07:15:06 PM  
Am I the only one that thought it was just a bad commercial on it's own?  The product wasn't pitched and it was just a long multicultural sing a long without context. It was intentionally shot to be heart warming to a liberal subset who thinks multicultural sing a long's are awesomeness and boring to any one else.  My guess is they figured that the people who said it was boring or stupid online would outrage the same liberal subset online and it'd be a flame war that brings them extra buzz and hipness.  Congrats it worked.  Of course I could have been primed to see it this way because I'd read earlier how Coke was donating to Oxfam to screw with SodaStream which was an ultimate dick move since they're stirring the pot in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict to do it.

The GM/Chrysler commercials were doing the same crap but rah rah Detroit and trying to make you want to buy a car to help rebuild a bankrupt city.  Ford commercials however tend to say "professional use this, therefore you want to use this". A direct attachment and sale based on the quality or desirability of the product, not on some nebulous positive to come buying it.

I thought the Cheerio's commercial was one of the best of the entire thing.  I was primed to be annoyed at it because MSNBC stirred up crap saying it was going to be a right/left thing. Since I hadn't seen it I figured it was going to be some forced multiculturalism stuff like the Coke commercial and be liberal heartwarming and dumb to anyone else.  Cheerios put the product front and center, used it in a compelling way and had a punch line that was priceless in the look on the mothers face after the puppy comment.  And now I'm really craving some Cheerios.
 
2014-02-04 07:16:02 PM  

Dragonflew: Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Maybe. But honestly, find me one person who is outraged about the commercial itself who is not conservative.


I can't find a single person outraged about the commercial, only liberals talking about how much they hate people who don't think exactly like them and how they want to kill everyone who disagrees with them.
 
2014-02-04 07:16:44 PM  

peacheslatour: Why should not acknowledge it and in fact be proud of it? I know I am.


Good for you! But do you really need to attack people (or maybe just caricatures of people) who don't share your view? People whose culture inculcates them with a fear and suspicion of foreigners or outsiders?

Can you understand that cultural change might make some people feel threatened, no matter how irrational it might seem to you?

Do you think smashing people over the head with it and calling them bigots when they don't see it your way is going to make them more adversarial, or less? Do you really want to further a cultural divide over something as insipid as a Coca Cola ad?
 
2014-02-04 07:17:11 PM  

Warlordtrooper: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.


This. Although I found nothing objectionable in the commercial, the outrage was entirely predictable. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't been worse. There's no way the Coke folks failed to predict this. They must simply be counting on the positive outweighing the negative.  Hope they did the math right.
 
2014-02-04 07:18:21 PM  
scottydoesntknow:
Why should he have to provide a reasonable argument for such an unreasonable post you made? It's got nothing to do with the rivalry between Coke and Pepsi and to suggest it does means you need to loosen your tin-foil hat.

Not sure if you're serious, but i don't think it's unreasonable to assume they did this to get a reaction.  It has everything to do with out-newsing Pepsi.  IDGAF if you drink Coke, or change your mind about drinking it after the commercial.  I know everyone at work is still talking about it.  Coke is on people's minds, and they're seeing the word coke on their favorite websites, and facebook, and everywhere else.  That is how marketing works, and this was effective.

seeing it as any message more, that's where the tinfoil hats come in.

//and if you take yours off, i'll totally melt your brain because God said i could.
 
2014-02-04 07:20:33 PM  

spamdog: people are sick to death of "diversity" mandates


Ain't that a biatch?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-04 07:21:14 PM  
The only thing I believe is ironic is how much it gets pushed that this country was founded on diversity. America, like so many others, has a history of xenophobia, racism, and prejudices that spanned from since before there was even a Constitution. Our history is nothing "great" in that regard; what's great is that we're willing to warp the past into something positive to build a better future.

/Faux news had a report on yesterday trying to claim the song was the National Anthem
//Huge difference between a song about America and the National Anthem (not that it should matter as long as the tune is carried properly)
 
2014-02-04 07:21:30 PM  

mongbiohazard: IronJelly: Can we shut up and get the fark over the coke commercial already?

I'll break down for the last time what happened:
1) PEPSI bought the entire halftime show.  It was called the Pepsi Halftime Show.
2) Coke needed to do something to compete.
3) Coke is an attention whore.  Any attention is good attention, as it keeps farking retards (just like you!) talking about Coke.
4) Film a controversial commercial, air during the Pepsi Halftime Show.
5) Profit

if you keep your stupid farking mouths going about it, you make it effective, and will cause more ads to be like this.  If you grow up, act like an adult, and get on with your crappy life (along with the other people), then this wouldn't be viewed as effective marketing, and would go away sooner.

But no, you coont tunnel ass bag bullshiat consumer, you have to keep fixated on one thing and ruin it for the rest of us.

Controversial? There wasn't anything at all controversial about the ad. The controversy is entirely the reaction to the ad by a loud and racist few we call republicans.


This right here.

Keep pushing their buttons.  Make them as uncomfortable as they make everyone else.  Stop letting them hide behind semantic perversions of the word "tolerance".

"Tolerance" was a training wheel word for half-measure civil rights solutions aimed at getting bigots to at least STOP ACTIVELY OPPRESSING minorities, and to "tolerate" them if they couldn't embrace them.  It's the first step toward INCLUSION and ACCEPTANCE of specific types of people who have been discriminated against because of who they ARE not just what they believe.  It's not the sum total of a philosophy or political solution that includes its own opposite concept of exclusion and intolerance based on gender, race or sexual orientation.
 
2014-02-04 07:21:56 PM  

spamdog: peacheslatour: Why should not acknowledge it and in fact be proud of it? I know I am.

Good for you! But do you really need to attack people (or maybe just caricatures of people) who don't share your view? People whose culture inculcates them with a fear and suspicion of foreigners or outsiders?

Can you understand that cultural change might make some people feel threatened, no matter how irrational it might seem to you?

Do you think smashing people over the head with it and calling them bigots when they don't see it your way is going to make them more adversarial, or less? Do you really want to further a cultural divide over something as insipid as a Coca Cola ad?


Who the hell am I attacking?  Or maybe I need to recalibrate my sarcasm meter...
 
2014-02-04 07:22:16 PM  
I feel like I'm the only one who saw the commercial as being representative of America's oppressive imperialist capitalism, not of the diluting of the English-speaking American populace with foreign-tongues. Kinda like the song "Amerika" by Rammstein.
 
2014-02-04 07:23:10 PM  

Belias: Warlordtrooper: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.

This. Although I found nothing objectionable in the commercial, the outrage was entirely predictable. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't been worse. There's no way the Coke folks failed to predict this. They must simply be counting on the positive outweighing the negative.  Hope they did the math right.


Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.

Also, coke pac donates 60 to Republicans and 40 to Democrats. So good on all you liberals buying coke in support, your money funds GOP politicians.
 
2014-02-04 07:23:57 PM  

JSam21: lostcat: Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Amusingly too, tthe article makes no sense. From many, one; not from many, many. From many, one means conform or leave.

So umm...I think the point of referring to "E pluribus Unum" isn't what it means, it's that even though English is our official language, we still use Latin (a non-English language) on our currency and other marks of state.

Ummm there is no official language of the United States of America.


Shhhhh....Don't tell that to the people who are complaining about the ad.
 
2014-02-04 07:24:38 PM  

peacheslatour: Who the hell am I attacking?


Well, maybe not you, but you know.

You people.
 
2014-02-04 07:24:43 PM  

Bullseyed: Belias: Warlordtrooper: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.

This. Although I found nothing objectionable in the commercial, the outrage was entirely predictable. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't been worse. There's no way the Coke folks failed to predict this. They must simply be counting on the positive outweighing the negative.  Hope they did the math right.

Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.

Also, coke pac donates 60 to Republicans and 40 to Democrats. So good on all you liberals buying coke in support, your money funds GOP politicians.


Keyes and Beck don't count?

Could you be any more disingenuous as to suggest its liberals and not conservatives who were upset by the ad?

Your butthurt is noted.
 
2014-02-04 07:24:50 PM  

Bullseyed: Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad.


Glenn Beck, Allen West and the Emperor of the Party, Rush Limbaugh.
 
2014-02-04 07:25:36 PM  

lordjupiter: Bullseyed: Belias: Warlordtrooper: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.

This. Although I found nothing objectionable in the commercial, the outrage was entirely predictable. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't been worse. There's no way the Coke folks failed to predict this. They must simply be counting on the positive outweighing the negative.  Hope they did the math right.

Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.

Also, coke pac donates 60 to Republicans and 40 to Democrats. So good on all you liberals buying coke in support, your money funds GOP politicians.

Keyes and Beck don't count?

Could you be any more disingenuous as to suggest its liberals and not conservatives who were upset by the ad?

Your butthurt is noted.


Meant West and Beck.  Got my Al's switched.
 
2014-02-04 07:26:00 PM  
"And crown thy good, with brotherhood" apparently no longer applies to conservatives.
 
2014-02-04 07:27:02 PM  

Bullseyed: Belias: Warlordtrooper: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.

This. Although I found nothing objectionable in the commercial, the outrage was entirely predictable. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't been worse. There's no way the Coke folks failed to predict this. They must simply be counting on the positive outweighing the negative.  Hope they did the math right.

Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.

Also, coke pac donates 60 to Republicans and 40 to Democrats. So good on all you liberals buying coke in support, your money funds GOP politicians.


Bullshiat

Coke PAC donates 59% to Republicans and 41% to Dems.

/Your main point of concerned trolls pulling this instead of conservatives is bullshiat as well
 
2014-02-04 07:27:20 PM  

Bullseyed: lostcat: Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Amusingly too, tthe article makes no sense. From many, one; not from many, many. From many, one means conform or leave.

So umm...I think the point of referring to "E pluribus Unum" isn't what it means, it's that even though English is our official language, we still use Latin (a non-English language) on our currency and other marks of state.

You clearly did not read the article then.


That's accurate. I got as far as the third paragraph, with the link that took me to the video so I could see what all the fuss was about.

Then I made the point about the use of non-English on our currency, etc. Which I still think is a good point, even if the author of the article was too dense to carry his own argument to that logical end.
 
2014-02-04 07:27:27 PM  

Bullseyed: I can't find a single person outraged about the commercial, only liberals talking about how much they hate people who don't think exactly like them and how they want to kill everyone who disagrees with them.


Oh, I'm sorry. I was unaware that you had not read the article. There are a few examples of people so "disturbed" by a commercial that they felt compelled to broadcast it to their flock - conservative radio show hosts, conservative politicians, even uber-racist Steve King. I am not even including all those anonymous tweets you claim to be liberals pretending to be conservative.
 
2014-02-04 07:27:34 PM  
Know what I can't find a pic of?

The Spanish language GOP response to the SOTU.
 
2014-02-04 07:27:35 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Bullseyed: Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad.

Glenn Beck, Allen West and the Emperor of the Party, Rush Limbaugh.


People in the entertainment industry who are dependent on ratings for financial success are not valid indicators.
 
2014-02-04 07:29:00 PM  
non-story.

Republicans don't get outraged over meaningless non-english speaking commercials.

Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts.

/move along
//move along!
 
2014-02-04 07:29:08 PM  

cman: Latin is different

We English speakers are raised to believe it is the most superior of all languages.


Which is funny because Spanish has more in common with Latin than English does, given that English is Germanic, not Romantic.

/You know who else spoke a Germanic language?
//The Danes
 
2014-02-04 07:29:36 PM  

Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Bullseyed: Dragonflew: Weaver95: I just figured the GOP was outraged because they're the GOP. You could ask conservatives about the weather and they're ranting about global warming hoaxes and solar power conspiracies. Anger is kinda their default setting.

I immediately assumed it was conservatives that were raging. The article confirmed it, with posts slamming Obama and accusing Coke of supporting terrorism. Ah, conservatives... endless hilarity.

Except most the posters are liberals making fun of the perceived stereotype of a right winger, not actual right wingers.

Maybe. But honestly, find me one person who is outraged about the commercial itself who is not conservative.

I can't find a single person outraged about the commercial, only liberals talking about how much they hate people who don't think exactly like them and how they want to kill everyone who disagrees with them.


And weren't you just giving me a hard time about not reading the article?
 
2014-02-04 07:29:47 PM  

cman: Bullseyed: Belias: Warlordtrooper: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.

This. Although I found nothing objectionable in the commercial, the outrage was entirely predictable. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't been worse. There's no way the Coke folks failed to predict this. They must simply be counting on the positive outweighing the negative.  Hope they did the math right.

Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.

Also, coke pac donates 60 to Republicans and 40 to Democrats. So good on all you liberals buying coke in support, your money funds GOP politicians.

Bullshiat

Coke PAC donates 59% to Republicans and 41% to Dems.

/Your main point of concerned trolls pulling this instead of conservatives is bullshiat as well


Sure, call it "bullshiat" when you can't cite evidence that disproves it.
 
2014-02-04 07:30:11 PM  

Bullseyed: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Bullseyed: Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad.

Glenn Beck, Allen West and the Emperor of the Party, Rush Limbaugh.

People in the entertainment industry who are dependent on ratings for financial success are not valid indicators.



So you will never ever biatch about liberals whenever an actor or musician says something?  Your beliefs about liberals is limited to, what, some signed petition from all of them that only you have access to?
 
2014-02-04 07:30:36 PM  

Bullseyed: cman: Bullseyed: Belias: Warlordtrooper: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

I did actually,  The moment they switched to another language  I just knew people were going to be spewing stupid opinions on the internet within minutes.

This. Although I found nothing objectionable in the commercial, the outrage was entirely predictable. Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't been worse. There's no way the Coke folks failed to predict this. They must simply be counting on the positive outweighing the negative.  Hope they did the math right.

Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.

Also, coke pac donates 60 to Republicans and 40 to Democrats. So good on all you liberals buying coke in support, your money funds GOP politicians.

Bullshiat

Coke PAC donates 59% to Republicans and 41% to Dems.

/Your main point of concerned trolls pulling this instead of conservatives is bullshiat as well

Sure, call it "bullshiat" when you can't cite evidence that disproves it.


You didn't cite evidence to prove it. You said it you prove it.
 
2014-02-04 07:31:07 PM  

cman: /Your main point of concerned trolls pulling this instead of conservatives is bullshiat as well


Almost like accusing Fred Phelps of being atheist and trolling Christians, isn't it?
 
2014-02-04 07:33:52 PM  
I honestly just don't care about the majority of my fellow citizens any more. They worship a football game that is actually an extended series of commercials. Then they learn to worship the commercials. Then their diapers explode with the diarrhea of hillbilly fear. Because of a commercial.

Seriously, Real Murcans, choke on your Mountain Dew flavored Doritos and die in your double-wides. We'll all be better off.
 
2014-02-04 07:34:06 PM  

lostcat: scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.

The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.


I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.

I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language, but for some bass-ackwards reason, it's not okay or "racist" to suggest it. We can have diversity and assimilation at the same time - my ancestors managed to learn English to function in this country, and yet we still maintain some of our culture from our native lands. We didn't demand everyone honor our traditions or speak our language.
 
2014-02-04 07:35:04 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: cman: Latin is different

We English speakers are raised to believe it is the most superior of all languages.

Which is funny because Spanish has more in common with Latin than English does, given that English is Germanic, not Romantic.

/You know who else spoke a Germanic language?
//The Danes


10% of Spanish is from Arabic. That's what terrorists speak.
 
2014-02-04 07:35:40 PM  
I have no idea what this thread is about. I'm kind of happy about that.
 
2014-02-04 07:36:02 PM  
Just going to say this:

Welcoming folks in is a great thing. Make them feel welcome, give them a path to citizenship, and let them make this their home.

However, when you open your doors to strangers who have their own cultures and their own languages, and you don't ask that they make an effort to assimilate, you're going to end up with divisions because no one trusts each other, the various tribes stay with their own, and you end up with strife. If you want to promote harmony, then there has to be a few points of agreed-upon common ground to which all people must assimilate.
 
2014-02-04 07:36:50 PM  
Am I really the Weeners the relevant xkcd?

imgs.xkcd.com

Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2014-02-04 07:36:56 PM  
Personally, I feel our country will be made stronger if we don't have a common language.
 
2014-02-04 07:37:28 PM  

Vector R: lostcat: scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.

The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.

I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.

I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language, but for some bass-ackwards reason, it's not okay or "racist" to suggest it. We can have diversity and assimilation at the same time - my ancestors managed to learn English to function in this country, and yet we still maintain some of our culture from our native lands. We didn't demand everyone honor our traditions or speak our language.


Do I have to spell this out for you?!

It is NOT THE NATIONAL ANTHEM! That's the main reason people are calling you a farking moron.

There are others, but that's definitely the main one.
 
2014-02-04 07:38:35 PM  

lostcat: Oh people...

English isn't going anywhere anytime soon. No need to get all freaked out and defensive about it.

Even in developing nations in SE Asia, where China is buying up all the property and dumping tons of money, people are not going out of their way to learn Mandarin. They are still focused on English as the transactional language of business.

If people all over the world still view English as the language you have to learn to do business internationally, then I don't think we here in the US need to worry that we'll see English replaced anytime soon.

And do people really prefer to live in a world were everyone around them looks and talks exactly the same? How depressingly boring and xenophobic. I moved away from a tiny town like that when I was in my teens. In my head, that town changed along with me. But I guess I know, in my heart, that if I went back there again, it would still be the same white faces and lazy accents on every street. I wonder if they've even opened a single Thai restaurant within the county.


True except the derp wasn't about fear of a diminishing language. Those tweets etc were nothing more than a display of xenophobic rants and deep seated racism.
I guarantee you if everyone spoke English in the that commercial people will still voice their displeasure because those participants didn't 'look' American enough there coke will still get blame for being unpatriotic and perndering to godless minority mooslem brown yellow commies.
 
2014-02-04 07:39:04 PM  

Vector R: I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language [blah blah blah]


The Star Spangled Banner is your national anthem. They sang America the Beautiful in the commercial.

/Canadian
 
2014-02-04 07:39:58 PM  

Russ1642: The vast majority of those tweets were sarcastic.


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Not posting ElJungleCat's
 
2014-02-04 07:40:20 PM  

Vector R: lostcat: scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.

The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.

I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.

I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language, but for some bass-ackwards reason, it's not okay or "racist" to suggest it. We can have diversity and assimilation at the same time - my ancestors managed to learn English to function in this country, and yet we still maintain some of our culture from our native lands. We didn't demand everyone honor our traditions or speak our language.


Oh FFS, it's television commercial.  It's not legislation.  And for the last time, it was not the national anthem.
 
2014-02-04 07:40:38 PM  
i bet some people would shiat their beds if they knew  Katharine Lee Bates was a lesbian.

/oh nos
 
2014-02-04 07:40:52 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: lostcat: Oh people...

English isn't going anywhere anytime soon. No need to get all freaked out and defensive about it.

Even in developing nations in SE Asia, where China is buying up all the property and dumping tons of money, people are not going out of their way to learn Mandarin. They are still focused on English as the transactional language of business.

If people all over the world still view English as the language you have to learn to do business internationally, then I don't think we here in the US need to worry that we'll see English replaced anytime soon.

And do people really prefer to live in a world were everyone around them looks and talks exactly the same? How depressingly boring and xenophobic. I moved away from a tiny town like that when I was in my teens. In my head, that town changed along with me. But I guess I know, in my heart, that if I went back there again, it would still be the same white faces and lazy accents on every street. I wonder if they've even opened a single Thai restaurant within the county.

True except the derp wasn't about fear of a diminishing language. Those tweets etc were nothing more than a display of xenophobic rants and deep seated racism.
I guarantee you if everyone spoke English in the that commercial people will still voice their displeasure because those participants didn't 'look' American enough there coke will still get blame for being unpatriotic and perndering to godless minority mooslem brown yellow commies.


This

Although, TBH, the veracity of the comments would have been much toner and fewer if it your example were to be used.
 
2014-02-04 07:41:05 PM  

stanhapsburg: Romanes eunt domus.


What's this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called Romanes, they go, the house?
 
Ant
2014-02-04 07:41:30 PM  

ricbach229: Am I the only one that thought it was just a bad commercial on it's own?  The product wasn't pitched and it was just a long multicultural sing a long without context.


The product is sugary carbonated water with flavoring. There's not much to say about the actual product. All pop/soda commercials are stupid and nonsensical.
 
2014-02-04 07:42:51 PM  

CanisNoir: Outrage over a commercial is idiotic, likewise anyone who thinks the country can be successful with a bunch of disparete cultures and languages is ignoring the entirity of human history. We're a melting pot because different cultures adapt themselves to America and add their own individual spice; the country didn't adapt to the other culture.


List of doomed nations
 
2014-02-04 07:43:12 PM  
There is a lot of poetry in the lyrics:

For spacious skies
For amber waves of grain
For purple mountain's majesty
thine alabaster cities gleam, undimmed by human tears.

I could see where a very sensitive person would see a problem with what could be lost in translation of this non-standard poetic speech. Such a person would weep knowing that people read the bible without a thorough knowledge of Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and possibly Latin.


thegospelcoalition.org
 
2014-02-04 07:44:57 PM  
There's no hate like neocon hate.
 
2014-02-04 07:44:58 PM  
If anything good can come from this, it would be if a bunch of southern hillbillies cared enough about boycotting Coke to stop using the word "Coke" whenever they order a soda/pop/soft drink, or whatever term you prefer that makes infinitely more sense.
 
2014-02-04 07:46:06 PM  

Vector R: lostcat: scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.

The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.

I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.

I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language, but for some bass-ackwards reason, it's not okay or "racist" to suggest it. We can have diversity and assimilation at the same time - my ancestors managed to learn English to function in this country, and yet we still maintain some of our culture from our native lands. We didn't demand everyone honor our traditions or speak our language.


List of people who demand you speak their language:

END OF LIST

And whatever your ancestry is, German, Irish, Polish, whatever, yes, dumbshiat, your ancestors felt the racism of Real Murcans and they hated it.

Now you are what they hated.
 
2014-02-04 07:46:12 PM  
Fairly certain the 1% that actually runs the county has a motto of "Divide et impera"
 
2014-02-04 07:47:52 PM  

Passive Aggressive Larry: If anything good can come from this, it would be if a bunch of southern hillbillies cared enough about boycotting Coke to stop using the word "Coke" whenever they order a soda/pop/soft drink, or whatever term you prefer that makes infinitely more sense.


That would be funny if this commercial had that much effect that it changed the Southern Dialect.

We could use more "soda" people to help our cause.
 
2014-02-04 07:49:14 PM  

spamdog: I think a lot of negative reactions is because people are sick to death of "diversity" mandates, not necessarily enacted by the state, but by the companies they work for, the marketing they see, and all the left-wingers that use it to club people over the head with. It's tiresome.

If you just want to bash Republicans to puff yourself up a bit, then go right ahead. But don't you feel like a bit of a sheep, bleating the same thing as 95% of everyone here?


Most of the time, when there's a diversity mandate injected by the government, it's for a reason.  That said, I'm white and live in the Bay Area, one of the DIVERSE LIBRUL MECCA's, and I can't remember feeling particularly put upon by any such mandates.   However, I get what you're saying.  Some people, like my Republican brother in law, feel particularly butt-hurt about diversity mandates, and diversity in general.  Why?  Too much Sean Hannity is my guess, but I also think he's just xenophobic.  He was never exposed to a lot of diversity.

But why bash Republicans/Tea Partiers/Conservatives on this?  Because it's asinine to get upset at the ad in the first place.  America is a melting pot, we have no official language, and Coca-Cola is just out to make a buck.  There are no ulterior motives here, just capitalism plain and simple.  The only thing this ad accomplished is that somewhere in some manila folder in a Coca-Cola marketing exec's office, there's a TPS report filed with ASIAN, HISPANIC, WHITE, AFRICAN AMERICAN, and OTHER all checked off.

They should be upset that the Superb Owl game sucked.  Hard.  Not this stupid ad.
 
2014-02-04 07:49:35 PM  
When I saw this commercial I quickly had two thoughts.  First, I thought this commercial is going to anger many people.  Then my second thought was that Coke must know this but they went ahead with the commercial anyway.  So I think they did this to get the controversy.
 
2014-02-04 07:52:06 PM  

runwiz: When I saw this commercial I quickly had two thoughts.  First, I thought this commercial is going to anger many people.  Then my second thought was that Coke must know this but they went ahead with the commercial anyway.  So I think they did this to get the controversy.


So knowing idiots will react negatively to something you do means that's why you're doing it?  You can't think of any other reasons?
 
2014-02-04 07:52:51 PM  

Bullseyed: Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.


Yeah, no.

I checked some of those accounts. Some have been shamed into closing them, some are doubling down on derp. One linked directly to another guy and his best selling trillogy about exterminating the ni*bongs*.

then we have
31.media.tumblr.com
31.media.tumblr.com

I hope in the Q/A section they ask her about diversity in America.

31.media.tumblr.com
Todd Starnes is Sarah Palin's favorite War on Christians writer who is constantly shown to be dishonest.


31.media.tumblr.com
FDFN has shut his FB page, Tom has locked his, but his pictures are still visible with a collection like:
fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net
Jeff's also locked, but his pictures and likes are a mix of pro guns, pro God and anti Obama.
 
2014-02-04 07:52:58 PM  
It's a tough one, but I think Bullseyed is winning the race to be crowned "Biggest Dumbass ITT", beating out Vector R by a few IQ points.  I think Vector R could claw back valuable ground if he manages to make the National Anthem mistake a third time but my money's still on that other cretin.
 
2014-02-04 07:53:58 PM  
I'm curious about something...if someone asked all of these people if they would be willing to donate a bit of their time to help teach someone English I wonder how many of them would do it or if they would reply with something like that the foreigners should have learned it before they came here.
 
2014-02-04 07:55:08 PM  
As a healthcare professional, I hope all this outrage and boycott of coca-cola results in lower weights, sugar levels, lipids levels and healthier individuals.

Who am I kidding? These idiots will just drink Fanta, Sprite, Powerade and Monster.
 
2014-02-04 07:55:55 PM  
que?
 
2014-02-04 07:56:07 PM  
Am I the only one who thought the commercial was just sappy, pandering bullshiat? If anything, I thought it was awful because it tried to use diversity to hit as many groups as possible to sell them soda.
 
2014-02-04 07:56:18 PM  

Vector R: lostcat: scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.

The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.

I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.

I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language, but for some bass-ackwards reason, it's not okay or "racist" to suggest it. We can have diversity and assimilation at the same time - my ancestors managed to learn English to function in this country, and yet we still maintain some of our culture from our native lands. We didn't demand everyone honor our traditions or speak our language.


Two reasons numbnuts.

1.There aren't a lot of French citizens of Bantu descent.

2. America the Beautiful is not the national anthem of the United States.

Comprende trouduc!
 
2014-02-04 07:57:04 PM  
Racists gonna race.
 
2014-02-04 07:58:02 PM  

Witty_Retort: Russ1642: The vast majority of those tweets were sarcastic.

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Not posting ElJungleCat's


Wow.  I know it's a big shout, but that might be the most concentrated lot of idiocy I've seen so far, and I've seen the politics tab.  It's like a neutron star of stupidity.
 
2014-02-04 07:58:08 PM  

portnoyd: Am I the only one who thought the commercial was just sappy, pandering bullshiat? If anything, I thought it was awful because it tried to use diversity to hit as many groups as possible to sell them soda.


Oh wow, you just discovered the goal of advertising!
 
2014-02-04 07:58:25 PM  
Probably mentioned but didn't the GOP just respond to the SOTU with a spanish language version?
 
2014-02-04 07:59:51 PM  
I love how everyone has fallen for this crap.
 
2014-02-04 08:00:21 PM  
Wait till this Christmas. When the 'baggers are still accusing Coke of being anti-American, and then you see all the adverts of Santa Claus, the Haddon Sunblom version of Santa that was designed for Coke. I'm just waiting for one of them to open their mayonnaise hole to start talking smack about Coca Cola so I can yell "YOU'RE WAGING WAR ON CHRISTMAS!"


And then watch them explode in a shower of sparks & flame as the attempt to fit both rages together overwhelms them.
 
2014-02-04 08:03:05 PM  
I think, regardless of our language, race, nationality, or creed, we can come together to say "that commercial was terrible".
 
2014-02-04 08:04:11 PM  

Witty_Retort: Bullseyed: Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad. If you check into the original tweets, you'll see they were often Boobiess (fake accounts) and liberals on their own accounts. Then liberals wrote stories about it bashing Republicans, who had nothing to do with it.

Yeah, no.

I checked some of those accounts. Some have been shamed into closing them, some are doubling down on derp. One linked directly to another guy and his best selling trillogy about exterminating the ni*bongs*.

then we have
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I hope in the Q/A section they ask her about diversity in America.

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Todd Starnes is Sarah Palin's favorite War on Christians writer who is constantly shown to be dishonest.


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FDFN has shut his FB page, Tom has locked his, but his pictures are still visible with a collection like:
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Jeff's also locked, but his pictures and likes are a mix of pro guns, pro God and anti Obama.


Those people don't count. Because patriots.
 
2014-02-04 08:04:30 PM  

spamdog: peacheslatour: Why should not acknowledge it and in fact be proud of it? I know I am.

Good for you! But do you really need to attack people (or maybe just caricatures of people) who don't share your view? People whose culture inculcates them with a fear and suspicion of foreigners or outsiders?

Can you understand that cultural change might make some people feel threatened, no matter how irrational it might seem to you?

Do you think smashing people over the head with it and calling them bigots when they don't see it your way is going to make them more adversarial, or less? Do you really want to further a cultural divide over something as insipid as a Coca Cola ad?



If you're so delicate that you can't handle being called a "bigot", maybe you should consider that before you start going after foreigners for speaking languages other than English.
 
2014-02-04 08:06:09 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Wait till this Christmas. When the 'baggers are still accusing Coke of being anti-American, and then you see all the adverts of Santa Claus, the Haddon Sunblom version of Santa that was designed for Coke. I'm just waiting for one of them to open their mayonnaise hole to start talking smack about Coca Cola so I can yell "YOU'RE WAGING WAR ON CHRISTMAS!"

And then watch them explode in a shower of sparks & flame as the attempt to fit both rages together overwhelms them.


I would imagine it would be more like the scene in Fight Club where the liposuction bag gets caught on the fence...
 
2014-02-04 08:06:16 PM  

TV's Vinnie: then you see all the adverts of Santa Claus, the Haddon Sunblom version of Santa that was designed for Coke.


Wrong. Haddon Sunblom didn't design Santa Claus for Coke; that image existed long before Coke used it in an advert.
 
2014-02-04 08:06:21 PM  
All American Cletus-Boy - I know what's pissing you off.
It's not the commercial. It's the fact that Coke made the commercial, and DOESN'T CARE that you don't like it. Because nobody needs you any more.
Your small, shrinking, aging demographic isn't important anymore - the stupid-ass American hillbilly dollar is one we can all afford to wipe our asses with these days - it's a pretty punk little dollar.
The boss isn't the boss anymore in America - and that pisses the ex-boss off.
Hope you eat your shotgun in rage, and have a nice day! :D
 
2014-02-04 08:07:14 PM  

alex10294: I think, regardless of our language, race, nationality, or creed, we can come together to say "that commercial was terrible".


No, not really.
 
2014-02-04 08:07:17 PM  

mariner314: netweavr: You really thing that argument will work?

"Out of many, one." That "one" is English. They're supposed to come here and learn English.

That kinda derp just writes itself.

I appreciate the message the commercial conveyed. I didn't like the commercial. I've always been in support of a national language.

All 14 people at our Super Bowl party in the great blue King County Seattle were all like, "what the fark is this shiat?".


Really? You got confused because an ad had a bunch of folks singing a song in different languages?


I live in south King County. You're making the rest of us look bad. Given that King County supports at least 16 languages in official documents, and given that residents here speak 118  languages at home, I can't believe that you're doing anything but concern trolling here.

 
2014-02-04 08:07:42 PM  
What they need to say in as many languages as possible is "drinking soda on a regular basis is as deadly as smoking".
 
2014-02-04 08:09:57 PM  
Can we just start Civil War II already and get this shiat over with?

Honestly, I'm convinced both sides would benefit if we just moved all the conservatives down south, moved all the liberals up north, and drew a line that separated us into two separate nations. Let the hateful coonts have a whole country of their own to fark up. The north would be better off without the red states sucking at the teat and not giving back as much as they take. The south would be better off without having to accept things like diversity, progress, or religious freedom. They can gnash their teeth, ban everything they're afraid of, and hate to their heart's content.

Seriously, I'm sick of this push by some people to move the country BACKWARDS, to the "good old days" of segregation, xenophobia, compelled religious affiliations, and that obnoxious, stupid might-makes-right and greed-is-good thinking.

I'm serious. We're so ideologically different that we're really not getting ANY benefit from living together under the same flag anymore. Hell, most of the far-right assholes have already adopted the "Don't Tread On Me" as their national flag.
 
2014-02-04 08:09:58 PM  

uber humper: What they need to say in as many languages as possible is "drinking soda on a regular basis is as deadly as smoking".


Why would they lie?
 
2014-02-04 08:10:56 PM  

alex10294: I think, regardless of our language, race, nationality, or creed, we can come together to say "that commercial was terrible".


Well, sure - like the other poster said - how do you make a "good" commercial for a product like Coke?
It's not only a product of purely ephemeral value, but it's an old, stuffy, "sacred" brand with all kinds of taboos surrounding it, like Disney. It's going to be a snooze-fest from the get-go.
 
2014-02-04 08:14:05 PM  
I need to stop using some variation of "seriously" to start sentences when I'm in a peeved mood. Seriously.
 
2014-02-04 08:14:53 PM  

uber humper: What they need to say in as many languages as possible is "drinking soda on a regular basis is as deadly as smoking".


As long as you don't have to inhale my second-hand cola fizz, I think it's a bit better.
 
2014-02-04 08:15:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: uber humper: What they need to say in as many languages as possible is "drinking soda on a regular basis is as deadly as smoking".

Why would they lie?


No lie. Heart disease along with diabetes, Alzheimer's and other metabolic syndromes. Sugar will kill.

Heart Association's recomendation for sugar is 100 calories per day for women and 150 per day for men. One can Coke is 140 from sugar.
 
2014-02-04 08:15:44 PM  

redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.


Second-generation immigrants speak crappy Spanish. Third-generation immigrants speak no Spanish at all. This is as true in Florida and California as anywhere else.
 
2014-02-04 08:15:54 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Vector R: lostcat: scottydoesntknow: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

I hope you're joking, otherwise I'm going to have to favorite you as "farking moron" so I know to avoid your posts in the future.

The farkie I have for him reminds me that he's never ridden on a city bus before, so the comment doesn't surprise me, and I don't think he's joking.

I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.

I was just pointing out that you don't see the French national anthem sung in Swahili, and it strikes me as ridiculous that somehow it's okay for our national anthem to be sung in something other than our national language. Say Cherokee all you want, but we won, and now English people are the vast majority in this country. English should be our national language, but for some bass-ackwards reason, it's not okay or "racist" to suggest it. We can have diversity and assimilation at the same time - my ancestors managed to learn English to function in this country, and yet we still maintain some of our culture from our native lands. We didn't demand everyone honor our traditions or speak our language.

Do I have to spell this out for you?!

It is NOT THE NATIONAL ANTHEM! That's the main reason people are calling you a farking moron.

There are others, but that's definitely the main one.


No, you didn't. I find it amusing that it took this thread to introduce me to the kerfluffle over the commercial, though.

/had to be at the gym in 26 minutes during the superb owl
//farking pool was still busy
///People can still feel free to speak English in this country
 
2014-02-04 08:18:40 PM  

ZeroCorpse: uber humper: What they need to say in as many languages as possible is "drinking soda on a regular basis is as deadly as smoking".

As long as you don't have to inhale my second-hand cola fizz, I think it's a bit better.


You're also  need to consider it's a gateway beverage First Coke, then Mountain Dew, then Rock Star...
 
2014-02-04 08:19:54 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I need to stop using some variation of "seriously" to start sentences when I'm in a peeved mood. Seriously.


I know, right?
 
2014-02-04 08:21:58 PM  
I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.
 
2014-02-04 08:22:19 PM  
Why haven't Americans changed the name of their language to plain "American" yet?  "It's America, speak English!" always makes me laugh.  They have no right to protectiveness over a language that isn't even theirs and that they've butchered to near-incomprehensibility over the centuries.
 
2014-02-04 08:22:35 PM  
Are people aware that even if the national language were English, Americans would still be free to speak sing whatever the fark they want in whatever language they want?
 
2014-02-04 08:22:38 PM  

mbillips: redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.

Second-generation immigrants speak crappy Spanish. Third-generation immigrants speak no Spanish at all. This is as true in Florida and California as anywhere else.


I agree. Texas, too. Except for the small towns on the border areas where English is just not spoken but that is to be expected.

I feel this also goes for the average age a woman becomes a mother. More generations out, the older the first time mother is.
 
2014-02-04 08:23:45 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I need to stop using some variation of "seriously" to start sentences when I'm in a peeved mood. Seriously.


Actually, it's virtually impossible to stop yourself from saying seriously - literally.
 
2014-02-04 08:23:50 PM  
speaksing
 
2014-02-04 08:24:26 PM  
Damn, I give up. Sorry, mods!
 
2014-02-04 08:27:54 PM  

duckpoopy: I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.


yeah that gets funnier every year
 
2014-02-04 08:30:58 PM  
imageshack.com

What can I say?  Derpers gonna derp.

Besides, the only Coke that Republicans ever cared about was the crap going up their noses.
 
2014-02-04 08:31:00 PM  

spamdog: duckpoopy: I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.

yeah that gets funnier every year


So, you're saying that by 2078, it will be funny? A little?
 
2014-02-04 08:34:12 PM  
We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.  Coke was trolling; they got the expected and desired response.  Their defenders are pretending it was unexpected and not desired; that doesn't make them heroic or novel.  It just makes them shiat-stirrers.
 
2014-02-04 08:35:58 PM  
In a couple of years it'll be:

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.
 
2014-02-04 08:37:08 PM  
Is it possible that everything that is possible has already happened?  I don't mean to threadjack but.....
 
2014-02-04 08:39:43 PM  
Sic semper tyrannii?
 
2014-02-04 08:40:03 PM  

JSam21: lostcat: So umm...I think the point of referring to "E pluribus Unum" isn't what it means, it's that even though English is our official language, we still use Latin (a non-English language) on our currency and other marks of state.

Ummm there is no official language of the United States of America.


It may amuse you to hear that some people find this fact astonishing.  The few times the topic has come up with Chileans, they've been amazed to hear that the USA has no official language.
 
2014-02-04 08:40:58 PM  
Meh whatever I'm drinking soda stream like Scarlet Johansen said to.
 
2014-02-04 08:41:55 PM  

skinink: I bet a lot of these people getting angry over the Coke ad have no idea how unwelcomed their forefathers used to be in America.
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1.bp.blogspot.com

That's a good point!

 (part of me would like to see people like Ted Cruz, Sean Hannity & Bill O'Reilly sent back in time to meet people like Mr. Poole here....)
 
2014-02-04 08:46:11 PM  

stanhapsburg: Romanes eunt domus.


Romans ain't dumbass?
 
2014-02-04 08:47:48 PM  
Did not see the ad, and I'm almost sorry I missed it, but I'm not a fan of stimulated interests like professional sports, be them at the level of the NFL, NBA or college level professionals.  It's my belief that our obsession with sports costs us more than tobacco and alcohol use, and seems to fuel both of them.

That being said, the BEST version of America the Beautiful I have ever heard was on Prarie Home Companion, sung by (and I'll fark up the spelling really good here) the King Kamemaheama High School Glee club Choir.  In Hawiian.

In the USA we have a long and colorful history of seriously bullshiat arguements, but I'll be damned if this is not one of the dumbest I've ever heard.

On top of Pike's Peak she was inspired, while teaching at Colorado College.  Climbing the peak is almost, but not quite a requirement for graduation....
 
2014-02-04 08:49:13 PM  

Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.


Canada disagrees, in English and French, politely.
 
2014-02-04 08:52:25 PM  

Ant: ricbach229: Am I the only one that thought it was just a bad commercial on it's own?  The product wasn't pitched and it was just a long multicultural sing a long without context.

The product is sugary carbonated water with flavoring. There's not much to say about the actual product. All pop/soda commercials are stupid and nonsensical.


Sort of agree, maybe.. Mt Dew actually connects their caffeinated product pretty well to making your fat ass want to do X Games stuff, kind of like Red Bull.  Dr. Pepper is doing the mountain man thing but at least their saying "Drink this diet drink and you'll still be a rugged man like this guy" so they are trying to pitch the product (diet drinks) to a non diet drinking audience (men who tend to hate diet everything).

Coke's commercial was different, it basically said "Drink this because all cultures are equal in America".  Without totally diving into the rabbit hole, that logic is flawed.  Some cultures don't work as well as others, it's obvious when you look at the world that some countries are basket cases.  When you see the people who refuse to pick up the native language it's the most outward symbol of rejecting any effort to integrate into the melting pot of America. The melting pot only works if people try to integrate and pick up the better social values we offer while keeping the better social values they have, a sort of social values Darwinism.  When a person or group push off the broader American culture it creates enclaves like the barrios and Chinatowns where immigrants aren't able to avail themselves of the broader opportunities because they've transplanted their home culture as wholly as possible and isolated themselves from the opportunities.
 
2014-02-04 08:54:41 PM  
Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.
 
2014-02-04 08:58:17 PM  

RedPhoenix122: That's the 2nd article this week from The Daily Beast that makes sense.  WTF is going on?


Tina Brown's contract ran out and they replaced her with an editor-in-chief who isn't coasting on a reputation earned 30 years ago.
 
2014-02-04 08:59:01 PM  

Need_MindBleach: You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.


A soft drink commercial isn't going to balkanize anything.
 
2014-02-04 09:00:25 PM  
I like how everyone assumes that the people singing in another language don't speak English. Language is just one way to show diversity. All the people in the commercial (though actors) may be fluent English speakers but their parents were immigrants, so they also speak another language as well.

Are these people who hate immigrants/diversity/other languages fighting hard to get language studies out of schools? Forget trying to learn a second language in school, what are you, a traitor? ENGLISH! fark YA.
 
2014-02-04 09:00:34 PM  

felching pen: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

Canada disagrees, in English and French, politely.


Canada, the country that holds referendums on whether the country should split on two every dozen years?
 
2014-02-04 09:00:56 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In a couple of years it'll be:

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.


My guess they'll call it Super Bowl 50 and just use numbers from there on out. The Roman numerals get more awkward (LIV? LIX? LIC?) and the novelty has long worn off.
 
2014-02-04 09:01:01 PM  
Bullseyed:
Again, very few if any Republicans were upset by the ad.

Want to point out where I said anything about Republicans? Conservatives? Anything about political bent in the slightest?
 
2014-02-04 09:03:27 PM  

Need_MindBleach: felching pen: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

Canada disagrees, in English and French, politely.

Canada, the country that holds referendums on whether the country should split on two every dozen years?


*in two, farking tablets.
 
2014-02-04 09:05:42 PM  
Coca-Cola is a worldwide phenomenon. Their trademark is one of the most valuable on the planet. It's only right that they advertise with multiple languages and recognize that the US (like many other countries) has many languages spoken within its borders. What's funny is the "ferners" speak usually better English than the English-Only crowd.
 
2014-02-04 09:06:23 PM  

jshine: No, our country will be strongest when everyone speaks different & mutually-incomprehensible languages. Successful communication only leads to frustration and anger.


You do know that it is possible for a single person to speak more than one language, right?

/¿Sabes que es posible hablar más de una lengua, verdad?
 
2014-02-04 09:07:40 PM  

SunsetLament: We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.


Yeah, it's "Coke defenders" that are clutching pearls over this whole ordeal.
 
2014-02-04 09:08:01 PM  
I much preferred the article about how Coca Cola was preying on the most weak and vulnerable recent immigrants with the ad, by pushing their sugar laden death fluid on them.
 
2014-02-04 09:08:22 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In a couple of years it'll be:

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.


drewblood.com
 
2014-02-04 09:11:32 PM  

wiredroach: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In a couple of years it'll be

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.

[drewblood.com image 286x286]


That's pretty good
 
2014-02-04 09:11:55 PM  

SunsetLament: We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.  Coke was trolling; they got the expected and desired response.  Their defenders are pretending it was unexpected and not desired; that doesn't make them heroic or novel.  It just makes them shiat-stirrers.


Are there that many Coke Defenders here? Most are just "Hey look. The lowest common denominators lived down to expectations."
It was not unexpected, unfortunately, and most seem to bare that our. There is very little heroic in defending xenophobia and hiding it behind patriotism.
The only pearl-clutchers are the ones up thread yelling liberal plant. And their defenders.

This commercial could very well be a sort of Rorschach test for a person. What they see in it is a reflection of what is in their heart. If you have hope, you see hope. If you have fear, you see your own fears reflected back at you.


Calling an idiot an idiot is not an attack. Reporting facts about politician does not make a new source biased.
 
2014-02-04 09:14:42 PM  

Kit Fister: However, when you open your doors to strangers who have their own cultures and their own languages, and you don't ask that they make an effort to assimilate, you're going to end up with divisions because no one trusts each other, the various tribes stay with their own, and you end up with strife. If you want to promote harmony, then there has to be a few points of agreed-upon common ground to which all people must assimilate.


You said 'assimilate' twice.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-04 09:14:50 PM  
I find the taste of Coke way more offensive than any of there commercials.
 
2014-02-04 09:16:06 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: TV's Vinnie: then you see all the adverts of Santa Claus, the Haddon Sunblom version of Santa that was designed for Coke.

Wrong. Haddon Sunblom didn't design Santa Claus for Coke; that image existed long before Coke used it in an advert.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom
 
2014-02-04 09:16:53 PM  

Kibbler: List of people who demand you speak their language:


1. 'MURCANS
 
2014-02-04 09:18:01 PM  

spamdog: peacheslatour: Why should not acknowledge it and in fact be proud of it? I know I am.

Good for you! But do you really need to attack people (or maybe just caricatures of people) who don't share your view? People whose culture inculcates them with a fear and suspicion of foreigners or outsiders?

Can you understand that cultural change might make some people feel threatened, no matter how irrational it might seem to you?

Do you think smashing people over the head with it and calling them bigots when they don't see it your way is going to make them more adversarial, or less? Do you really want to further a cultural divide over something as insipid as a Coca Cola ad?


Feeling threatened is one thing.  Fighting against change is another thing entirely.

When people are uncomfortable with or unsettled by progress, compassion and encouragement are the appropriate response.  When people attack progress, fighting back is the appropriate response.
 
2014-02-04 09:18:24 PM  

Need_MindBleach: Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.


This is a rather amusing concern troll.

Immersion is a very strong force. You end up picking up English here because it's all around you. And if the first generation doesn't speak it fluently, the second generation will, and the third generation won't know anything other than English without a lot of work.
 
2014-02-04 09:19:41 PM  
But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

Pretty much everyone?
 
2014-02-04 09:20:31 PM  

SunsetLament: We need a new term that describes "A troll who is displaying faux-pearl-clutching when someone correctly points out that they were trolling and should cut it out" ... and then that term should be applied to Coca-Cola's defenders on this particular issue.  Coke was trolling; they got the expected and desired response.  Their defenders are pretending it was unexpected and not desired; that doesn't make them heroic or novel.  It just makes them shiat-stirrers.


I'm not "defending" Coke, I'm applauding them - their actions don't require any defense. They may indeed have played this for a deliberate reaction, and I applaud them for it - a small, ugly, stupid portion of their consumer base that they can afford to blow off got pissed and gave them free publicity - it's a well deserved win-win for Coke, and it couldn't come at the expense of a lower bunch of assholes - the un-American haters of the "English-only" movement.
 
2014-02-04 09:20:55 PM  
So, "e" in Latin translates to "out of"? I had figured it just meant "from".

From many, one.
 
2014-02-04 09:21:31 PM  

mbillips: redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.

Second-generation immigrants speak crappy Spanish. Third-generation immigrants speak no Spanish at all. This is as true in Florida and California as anywhere else.



My point is that language is not a cultural artifact- it's a tool for living with other people and interacting in society. Celebrate your culture- throw quicenieras, dive off the sponge docks for the epiphany cross, gather together to drink kava or chew betel nuts and keep making all the great food- but accept the culture of your new home, also. Come here to be an American, not just a resident of a miniature version of whatever you left behind.
 
2014-02-04 09:22:41 PM  

TV's Vinnie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom


Yeah, not so much:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Nast

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-04 09:24:24 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Wait till this Christmas. When the 'baggers are still accusing Coke of being anti-American, and then you see all the adverts of Santa Claus, the Haddon Sunblom version of Santa that was designed for Coke. I'm just waiting for one of them to open their mayonnaise hole to start talking smack about Coca Cola so I can yell "YOU'RE WAGING WAR ON CHRISTMAS!"


And then watch them explode in a shower of sparks & flame as the attempt to fit both rages together overwhelms them.


"Mayonnaise hole" made me giggle uncontrollably. Thank you.
 
2014-02-04 09:26:20 PM  

Need_MindBleach: felching pen: Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.

Canada disagrees, in English and French, politely.

Canada, the country that holds referendums on whether the country should split on two every dozen years?


This.
I live in Canada.  Every time it has come up, no one has anything good to say about Quebec, and want the split to happen on the condition that it is a total and complete separation.  They tell me Quebec wants to leave but still receive funds and other benefits from the rest of Canada, and that is the reason secession fails.
 
2014-02-04 09:26:53 PM  

ciberido: When people are uncomfortable with or unsettled by progress, compassion and encouragement are the appropriate response. When people attack progress, fighting back is the appropriate response.


What you regard as "progress" is not universally regarded as good.
 
2014-02-04 09:26:56 PM  

Mentat: But who could've predicted the outrage we saw over the Coca-Cola commercial that aired during last night's Super Bowl?!

Pretty much everyone?


Everyone in the SB thread did.
 
2014-02-04 09:28:31 PM  
Can we just kick any normal out of Alaska, declare it a new country, and ship these people there for good? It has oil, gold, and a shiat ton of animals to kill, they will be fine.
 
2014-02-04 09:32:05 PM  

scottydoesntknow: TheShavingofOccam123: RexTalionis: brap: That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.

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Oh come on. The hell with world peace through soda. Spice it up with some Nazi-developed, world-domination uber soda


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Fanta originated as a result of difficulties importing Coca-Cola syrup into Nazi Germany during World War II due to a trade embargo. To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH) during the Second World War, decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time, including whey and pomace - the "leftovers of leftovers", as Keith later recalled. The name was the result of a brief brainstorming session, which started with Keith exhorting his team to "use their imagination" ("Fantasie" in German), to which one of his salesmen, Joe Knipp, immediately retorted "Fanta!"

While the plant was effectively cut off from Coca Cola headquarters during the war, plant management did not join the Nazi Party. After the war, the Coca Cola corporation regained control of the plant, formula and the trademarks to the new Fanta product - as well as the plant profits made during the war.

Every single time I see that image, all I see is the red Fanta girl's freakish arm.

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What has been seen can not be unseen.


fark YOU!!!!! Now that you pointed it out it looks like an Iranian version of a north Korean photoshop job. I'm not even sure those girls were in the same state for that picture.....
 
2014-02-04 09:35:23 PM  

spamdog: I think a lot of negative reactions is because people are sick to death of "diversity" mandates, not necessarily enacted by the state, but by the companies they work for, the marketing they see, and all the left-wingers that use it to club people over the head with. It's tiresome.

If you just want to bash Republicans to puff yourself up a bit, then go right ahead. But don't you feel like a bit of a sheep, bleating the same thing as 95% of everyone here?


Nope. Especially when for years it was perfectly "traditional" to club over immigrants for coming over, and they were white: just not from England or they weren't Protestant.
 
2014-02-04 09:38:25 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: TV's Vinnie: then you see all the adverts of Santa Claus, the Haddon Sunblom version of Santa that was designed for Coke.

Wrong. Haddon Sunblom didn't design Santa Claus for Coke; that image existed long before Coke used it in an advert.


It's hard to say exactly when Santa Claus was "invented" but he clearly predates Coca-Cola.
 
2014-02-04 09:40:32 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Nope. Especially when for years it was perfectly "traditional" to club over immigrants for coming over, and they were white: just not from England or they weren't Protestant.


I guess two wrongs make a right.
 
2014-02-04 09:40:36 PM  
So when people from other cultures sing a traditional song that is part of American heritage, its fine, but when Katy Perry dresses up as a part of traditional Japanese heritage, it's racist?

For the record, they are both fine.  Cultural assimilation is always a good thing.
 
2014-02-04 09:45:41 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: My IQ has gone up 30 points since I started muting the TV during all advertising. The best advertising is still advertising.

/i'm up to 55!


The mute button on my remote is by far the most used.
 
2014-02-04 09:46:56 PM  

HAMMERTOE: So, "e" in Latin translates to "out of"? I had figured it just meant "from".


There isn't a one-to-one translation of "e" from Latin into English.  But both "from" and "out of" are reasonable translations most of the time.

In general, you can't reasonably expect that a preposition in one language will exactly match a preposition in a completely different language the same way you might reasonably expect there to be one and only one word for "water."  Languages just don't work that way.  For that matter, even words for the most basic things like "water" may surprise you.
 
2014-02-04 09:50:58 PM  

uber humper: No lie. Heart disease along with diabetes, Alzheimer's and other metabolic syndromes. Sugar will kill.


No, heart disease along with diabetes, Alzheimers and other metabolic syndromes will kill. Sugar has fark-all to do with it.
 
2014-02-04 09:51:37 PM  

spamdog: ciberido: When people are uncomfortable with or unsettled by progress, compassion and encouragement are the appropriate response. When people attack progress, fighting back is the appropriate response.

What you regard as "progress" is not universally regarded as good.


Because some people are stupid. Shock.
 
2014-02-04 09:54:16 PM  

bekaye: ciberido: Eddie Adams from Torrance: e pluribus unum

Isn't that like French for "please iron these plaid trousers" ?

No, it's Hungarian for "My hovercraft is full of eels."

No, it's Vulcan for "the ensign is gassy."


No, it's Klingon for "quit being so farking whiny."
 
2014-02-04 09:55:40 PM  

spamdog: ciberido: When people are uncomfortable with or unsettled by progress, compassion and encouragement are the appropriate response. When people attack progress, fighting back is the appropriate response.

What you regard as "progress" is not universally regarded as good.


Obviously, or else this thread and the story that lead to it would not exist.  That doesn't change the fact that progress IS good.  What it does change is the relevant strategy: there are decent, well-intentioned people who are uncomfortable with, or even opposed to, progress.  When feasible it is better to education them, so that they become supporters.

There are, of course, also people who are opposed to progress simply because they are that selfish, greedy, or evil: the appropriate strategy for them is to stomp them flat.
 
2014-02-04 10:00:21 PM  

ciberido: There are, of course, also people who are opposed to progress simply because they are that selfish, greedy, or evil: the appropriate strategy for them is to stomp them flat.


You realize "progress" is one of those politically charged phrases like "family values", right?

You're not opposed to family values, are you?

Anyway, 99% of this discussion seems to be liberals congratulating themselves on how tolerant and great they are while simultaneously dishing out vitriol against vast swathes of people.
 
2014-02-04 10:04:46 PM  

spamdog: ciberido: There are, of course, also people who are opposed to progress simply because they are that selfish, greedy, or evil: the appropriate strategy for them is to stomp them flat.

You realize "progress" is one of those politically charged phrases like "family values", right?

You're not opposed to family values, are you?

Anyway, 99% of this discussion seems to be liberals congratulating themselves on how tolerant and great they are while simultaneously dishing out vitriol against vast swathes of people.


You have the statistical analysis to back that up, Adolf?
 
2014-02-04 10:05:09 PM  

spamdog: ciberido: There are, of course, also people who are opposed to progress simply because they are that selfish, greedy, or evil: the appropriate strategy for them is to stomp them flat.

You realize "progress" is one of those politically charged phrases like "family values", right?

You're not opposed to family values, are you?

Anyway, 99% of this discussion seems to be liberals congratulating themselves on how tolerant and great they are while simultaneously dishing out vitriol against vast swathes of people.


Progress is the improvement of humanity. The Progressive movement was and is based on the idea that modern science, technology and ideas can make the individual and society as a whole better. It is politically charged to regressive people who want to base society on the past. Particularly those who would base it on Bronze Age morality and technology.
 
2014-02-04 10:05:48 PM  

spamdog: Anyway, 99% of this discussion seems to be liberals congratulating themselves on how tolerant and great they are while simultaneously dishing out vitriol against vast swathes of people.


Ah the old cop-out word "seems," which allows you to make any generalization without having to back it up with actual evidence.
 
2014-02-04 10:09:52 PM  
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2014-02-04 10:10:47 PM  

spamdog: ciberido: There are, of course, also people who are opposed to progress simply because they are that selfish, greedy, or evil: the appropriate strategy for them is to stomp them flat.

You realize "progress" is one of those politically charged phrases like "family values", right?


Yes, for the last time, I do understand that not everyone agrees with me.  Please stop repeating yourself.
 
2014-02-04 10:15:23 PM  

rebelyell2006: The Progressive movement was and is based on the idea that modern science, technology and ideas can make the individual and society as a whole better. It is politically charged to regressive people who want to base society on the past. Particularly those who would base it on Bronze Age morality and technology.


That's a great spiel, it really is. However in practice what it means is just being a Democratic voter and watching Jon Stewart. The Democratic party only behaves as progressively as necessary in order to stop people from burning down the Capitol building.

Like I was saying, it's all just puffery.
 
2014-02-04 10:16:34 PM  

ciberido: Yes, for the last time, I do understand that not everyone agrees with me. Please stop repeating yourself.


That's not the point I'm making.

The point I'm making is that you are not as unquestionably good as you think you are, and those you deride are not so terribly evil.
 
2014-02-04 10:17:43 PM  

ricbach229: Ant: ricbach229: Am I the only one that thought it was just a bad commercial on it's own?  The product wasn't pitched and it was just a long multicultural sing a long without context.

The product is sugary carbonated water with flavoring. There's not much to say about the actual product. All pop/soda commercials are stupid and nonsensical.

Sort of agree, maybe.. Mt Dew actually connects their caffeinated product pretty well to making your fat ass want to do X Games stuff, kind of like Red Bull.  Dr. Pepper is doing the mountain man thing but at least their saying "Drink this diet drink and you'll still be a rugged man like this guy" so they are trying to pitch the product (diet drinks) to a non diet drinking audience (men who tend to hate diet everything).

Coke's commercial was different, it basically said "Drink this because all cultures are equal in America".  Without totally diving into the rabbit hole, that logic is flawed.  Some cultures don't work as well as others, it's obvious when you look at the world that some countries are basket cases.  When you see the people who refuse to pick up the native language it's the most outward symbol of rejecting any effort to integrate into the melting pot of America. The melting pot only works if people try to integrate and pick up the better social values we offer while keeping the better social values they have, a sort of social values Darwinism.  When a person or group push off the broader American culture it creates enclaves like the barrios and Chinatowns where immigrants aren't able to avail themselves of the broader opportunities because they've transplanted their home culture as wholly as possible and isolated themselves from the opportunities.


You say that like Chinatowns, barrios, and Little Italies were voluntary.  You might want to look at America's ugly little history of not letting Those People (whoever they might be for the area and time) buy property and start businesses in Our Neighborhoods.
 
2014-02-04 10:18:30 PM  

spamdog: ciberido: Yes, for the last time, I do understand that not everyone agrees with me. Please stop repeating yourself.

That's not the point I'm making.

The point I'm making is that you are not as unquestionably good as you think you are, and those you deride are not so terribly evil.


That doesn't deserve being dignified as a "point" - it's essentially just you, doing this:
i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-04 10:19:57 PM  
Why doesnt everyone get along.. Thats the point..

Go and get IRN-BRU.. pretty sure non Scottish people might hate/like it, majority of Scot's like it

But we dont shove it down your throat...

If someone wants to put an advert including all the folks/religions/races that are in the big old USA. FIRE IN..

/pissed off that someone cant put an great advert out there, that should make everyone think "come together" but no...
//is actually watching MegaFactories: Coca-Cola...
 
2014-02-04 10:23:42 PM  

Need_MindBleach: Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.


You might be interested to know that the US Citizenship exams are administered in English, unless you're an oldster when you take it (50+)--So a freshly minted citizen is pretty much going to be at least conversant in English.  Recent arrivals still on the citizenship waiting list may not have their shiat together yet.
 
2014-02-04 10:33:23 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: RexTalionis: brap: That said, I'm a also not ready to start championing international carbonated corn sugar water as the harbinger of global understanding either.

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Oh come on. The hell with world peace through soda. Spice it up with some Nazi-developed, world-domination uber soda

Fanta originated as a result of difficulties importing Coca-Cola syrup into Nazi Germany during World War II due to a trade embargo. To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH) during the Second World War, decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time, including whey and pomace - the "leftovers of leftovers", as Keith later recalled. The name was the result of a brief brainstorming session, which started with Keith exhorting his team to "use their imagination" ("Fantasie" in German), to which one of his salesmen, Joe Knipp, immediately retorted "Fanta!"

While the plant was effectively cut off from Coca Cola headquarters during the war, plant management did not join the Nazi Party. After the war, the Coca Cola corporation regained control of the plant, formula and the trademarks to the new Fanta product - as well as the plant profits made during the war.


I'm not buying it. Germans invented 'urnge drink? How is it a country of whitey whites invented an 'urnge drink that is the mainstay of the African American "fruit" intake?
 
2014-02-04 10:34:01 PM  

wiredroach: TV's Vinnie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom

Yeah, not so much:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Nast

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Okay, my dear Mister someoneiswrongontheinternet.jpg,

THAT, is the Santa as depicted by Thomas Nast in the 1800's. The MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months. The campaign became so popular that the modern image stuck in the consciousness of most people. Kind of like the way people remember the Rankin-Bass version of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer than the Jam Handy version.

KNOW YOUR SANTAS:

blog.timesunion.com thenewroalddahl.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-04 10:34:44 PM  
Does Chick-Fil-A serve coke?
 
2014-02-04 10:42:15 PM  

spamdog: rebelyell2006: The Progressive movement was and is based on the idea that modern science, technology and ideas can make the individual and society as a whole better. It is politically charged to regressive people who want to base society on the past. Particularly those who would base it on Bronze Age morality and technology.

That's a great spiel, it really is. However in practice what it means is just being a Democratic voter and watching Jon Stewart. The Democratic party only behaves as progressively as necessary in order to stop people from burning down the Capitol building.

Like I was saying, it's all just puffery.


What does your odd statement about John Stewart have to do with the history and reality of the Progressive movement?
 
2014-02-04 10:46:55 PM  

ciberido: HAMMERTOE: So, "e" in Latin translates to "out of"? I had figured it just meant "from".

There isn't a one-to-one translation of "e" from Latin into English.  But both "from" and "out of" are reasonable translations most of the time.

In general, you can't reasonably expect that a preposition in one language will exactly match a preposition in a completely different language the same way you might reasonably expect there to be one and only one word for "water."  Languages just don't work that way.  For that matter, even words for the most basic things like "water" may surprise you.


These variations in connotation and nuances of meaning are a good argument in favor of monolingual culture. The same law, bill or political speech will never mean exactly the same thing once it's been translated from one language to another.
 
2014-02-04 10:55:06 PM  
To all the Coca-Cola Super Bowl ad haters aghast at the notion of using a foreign language to express the idea of togetherness, I have only three words for you: e pluribus unum

So, since we allow other languages with the stipulation that they must first be dead, is this the new immigration policy you are championing, subby?  Because that seems to be exactly what you are saying.
 
2014-02-04 10:58:55 PM  

TV's Vinnie: wiredroach: TV's Vinnie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom

Yeah, not so much:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Nast

[upload.wikimedia.org image 456x630]

Okay, my dear Mister someoneiswrongontheinternet.jpg,

THAT, is the Santa as depicted by Thomas Nast in the 1800's. The MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months. The campaign became so popular that the modern image stuck in the consciousness of most people. Kind of like the way people remember the Rankin-Bass version of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer than the Jam Handy version.

KNOW YOUR SANTAS:



I prefer the Germanic making his rounds with the Krampus version of ole St Nick.
 
2014-02-04 11:00:04 PM  
To all the Coca-Cola Super Bowl ad haters aghast at the notion of using a foreign language to express the idea of togetherness, I have only three words for you: omelette du fromage.
 
2014-02-04 11:01:25 PM  

Molavian: To all the Coca-Cola Super Bowl ad haters aghast at the notion of using a foreign language to express the idea of togetherness, I have only three words for you: omelette du fromage.


And may I add: Chinga tu Madre.
 
2014-02-04 11:01:35 PM  

TV's Vinnie: he MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months.


And no it wasn't. Haven't you ever seen Snopes?
 
2014-02-04 11:02:46 PM  
 
2014-02-04 11:04:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: TV's Vinnie: he MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months.

And no it wasn't. Haven't you ever seen Snopes?


They don't trust Snopes, either.
 
2014-02-04 11:06:45 PM  

lordjupiter: cameroncrazy1984: TV's Vinnie: he MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months.

And no it wasn't. Haven't you ever seen Snopes?

They don't trust Snopes, either.


Oh right, I forgot those types don't trust any source that doesn't confirm their pre-conceived beliefs.
 
2014-02-04 11:09:13 PM  

buzzcut73: And one of those languages was a native language that dates back to well before our white asses got here.
Damn foreigners!


Christ, this.

Yeah it was a stupid ad but dammit, it was stuff I LIKE about this country, that I'm proud of. Cept for the aforementioned and included Native Americans, we're a goddamn nation of immigrants. And we're better for it. I'm the granddaughter of 4 immigrants, and my family retains those traditions while weaving in new ones. That's freaking awesome.

And this outrages people.

I don't get it.

I just don't.


"You think I don't take diversity seriously? Only a fool doesn't. Diversity is the engine that drives this country. We are an immigrant nation! The first generation works their fingers to the bone making things, the next generation goes to college and innovates new ideas, the third generation... snowboards and takes improv classes. We always need people who are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. I did it. And it's my job to help others do it, too."

-Jack Donaghy, noted liberal television character
 
2014-02-04 11:09:58 PM  

redsquid: mbillips: redsquid: The words you speak are not your culture- the ideas behind them are. If you want to see how well two separate languages in the same society works out just look at Florida. We have more social insularity than anywhere else I've ever lived. There is very little overlap between Spanish speakers and English speakers outside of basic economic exchanges. This has lead to resentment and an 'us and them' attitude on both sides of the language divide.
Of course a divided group is easier to control. By pandering to the separate cultural groups, our politicians have played us off of one another very well. This has left our state in a shambles. It is not our only problem but it is a big one with no easy solution.
A common language is the broth of our American cultural stew.

Second-generation immigrants speak crappy Spanish. Third-generation immigrants speak no Spanish at all. This is as true in Florida and California as anywhere else.


My point is that language is not a cultural artifact- it's a tool for living with other people and interacting in society. Celebrate your culture- throw quicenieras, dive off the sponge docks for the epiphany cross, gather together to drink kava or chew betel nuts and keep making all the great food- but accept the culture of your new home, also. Come here to be an American, not just a resident of a miniature version of whatever you left behind.


Why not both.jpg
 
2014-02-04 11:12:59 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Need_MindBleach: Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.

This is a rather amusing concern troll.


I don't think you understand what that term means.
 
2014-02-04 11:14:04 PM  

Need_MindBleach: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Need_MindBleach: Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.

This is a rather amusing concern troll.

I don't think you understand what that term means.


Oh no, he was right. You're feigning concern.
 
2014-02-04 11:17:56 PM  
I'm gonna make BILLIONS off of bigots!
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2014-02-04 11:29:14 PM  

Molavian: To all the Coca-Cola Super Bowl ad haters aghast at the notion of using a foreign language to express the idea of togetherness, I have only three words for you: omelette du fromage.

menage a trois.
 
2014-02-04 11:32:48 PM  

2chris2: Latin is not a foreign language, it is the basis of a large portion of the english language.


Yes, but first and foremost, English is a Germanic language.
 
2014-02-04 11:40:15 PM  
Ya'll spakin' furriner ain't ya
 
2014-02-04 11:48:33 PM  

spamdog: Darth_Lukecash: Nope. Especially when for years it was perfectly "traditional" to club over immigrants for coming over, and they were white: just not from England or they weren't Protestant.

I guess two wrongs make a right.


I guess realizing this is farking America is too difficult a concept for you. It's a land of immigrants.
 
2014-02-05 12:11:41 AM  

Need_MindBleach: Counterpoint: it's "Out of many, one." Not "Out of many, many."

Nations that consist of various groups each forming their own little language communities have citizens with little in common with each other and tend to fall to pieces. 100 years ago, we had even more immigrants than we do today, but those immigrants were expected to learn the language, and they did. You shouldn't celebrate the balkanization of your own country.


You know, that's actually bullshiat. Immigrants 100 years ago were LESS likely to learn English than they are today. They're spread out more in Real America™ now, so more people are encountering first-generation immigrants who don't speak English. A century ago, they were more concentrated in big, northeastern cities, and they had their own newspapers, theaters, etc., in their native languages. Their kids learned English, just as immigrant kids today are doing, and their grandkids didn't speak the language of the Old Country, just as happens today (96 percent of third-generation kids in California don't speak their grandparents' native language). The difference back then was that there were a lot of social organizations and government programs to HELP immigrants learn English, whereas today we mostly just talk bad about them. But they still learn English.

You know why first-generation immigrants often don't speak English well? Because learning a language as an adult is extremely difficult, and for people without an ear for accents, it's dang near impossible. Has nothing to do with their attitude about it.
 
2014-02-05 12:16:37 AM  

mbillips: You know, that's actually bullshiat. Immigrants 100 years ago were LESS likely to learn English than they are today.


My grandmother's parents all spoke German, and they were second and third generation.  It wasn't until WWI that my family stopped doing that.
 
2014-02-05 12:20:56 AM  

TV's Vinnie: THAT, is the Santa as depicted by Thomas Nast in the 1800's. The MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months. The campaign became so popular that the modern image stuck in the consciousness of most people. Kind of like the way people remember the Rankin-Bass version of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer than the Jam Handy version.


I know the difference. We owe much more to Nast for our visual picture of Santa than anyone else. You're just splitting hairs. The portly fellow with the hat, pipe, toys, beard...it's all Nast, and even he based it on earlier European images. The Coke stuff is just a baked-in refinement of the basic idea.
 
2014-02-05 12:25:46 AM  

trappedspirit: So, since we allow other languages with the stipulation that they must first be dead, is this the new immigration policy you are championing, subby? Because that seems to be exactly what you are saying.


The headline neither states nor implies any such thing. Latin is a foreign language, and it's not quite dead.
 
2014-02-05 12:36:42 AM  

wiredroach: trappedspirit: So, since we allow other languages with the stipulation that they must first be dead, is this the new immigration policy you are championing, subby? Because that seems to be exactly what you are saying.

The headline neither states nor implies any such thing. Latin is a foreign language, and it's not quite dead.


So this is the condition we will allow immigrants entry?
i141.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-05 12:37:00 AM  
The Super Bowl always manages to divide this country. This year, since no one gave a shiat about the game itself, we turned on crappy advertizing to get our us vs. them fix.
 
2014-02-05 12:37:30 AM  

Optimal_Illusion: I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Honkies are funny.

America was named for an Italian cartographer, Amerigo Vespucci.
There are places named San Antonio, Sacramento, and my favorite name for an American city: El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles.
Not to mention all the names from Native American tribes used for states, cities, counties, and so on.

So, seriously, tell me about how scared you guys are about foreigeners coming from overseas to wipe out your culture, lifestyle, spiritual beliefs, bringing diseases, vices, and hot ethnic women to corrupt the menfolk, and horny men to rape the cattle and stampede the women.  I'll listen to every fear you have in silence, and when you finish, then I'll call you something horrible in Comanche, and kick you square in the nuts and laugh long and hard.


Please to give us more information about these vices and hot ethnic women of which you speak.
 
2014-02-05 12:45:12 AM  
I've heard of this "people being pissed at Coca-Cola" thing, but I assumed it was just one of those overblown media reactions. Are folks really mad at this?

I don't have much going on in my life. I mean, really nothing at all. No girlfriend, no kids, no real hobbies, nothing. And even I have better things to do with my time than care about something as innocuous as that.
 
2014-02-05 12:49:10 AM  

wiredroach: TV's Vinnie: THAT, is the Santa as depicted by Thomas Nast in the 1800's. The MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months. The campaign became so popular that the modern image stuck in the consciousness of most people. Kind of like the way people remember the Rankin-Bass version of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer than the Jam Handy version.

I know the difference. We owe much more to Nast for our visual picture of Santa than anyone else. You're just splitting hairs. The portly fellow with the hat, pipe, toys, beard...it's all Nast, and even he based it on earlier European images. The Coke stuff is just a baked-in refinement of the basic idea.


Even if the image predates Coke's advertising campaign, that still doesn't mean that Coke's advertising campaign made the image the de-facto image for Santa.
 
2014-02-05 12:49:14 AM  

redsquid: ciberido: HAMMERTOE: So, "e" in Latin translates to "out of"? I had figured it just meant "from".

There isn't a one-to-one translation of "e" from Latin into English.  But both "from" and "out of" are reasonable translations most of the time.

In general, you can't reasonably expect that a preposition in one language will exactly match a preposition in a completely different language the same way you might reasonably expect there to be one and only one word for "water."  Languages just don't work that way.  For that matter, even words for the most basic things like "water" may surprise you.

These variations in connotation and nuances of meaning are a good argument in favor of monolingual culture. The same law, bill or political speech will never mean exactly the same thing once it's been translated from one language to another.


That won't work. English never means the same thing twice.

English changes and evolves with each generation. The meanings of words change over time. By the time the King James Bible was translated and published, its language was already considered archaic.

Beowolf was written in English, and I have a damned difficult time following it. The Flintstones can no longer have "a gay old time" without someone having a hissy. The English's bonnet and boot are the American's hood and trunk. Bird, chick, or sheila are English words generally used to indicate a pretty female, depending on where you are on earth. English in itself is not just one language.

Is a barby a doll or a grill? Is a telly a telegram, a telephone or a TV? Whilst you even finish reading this post?

In the U.S., do you stand in line or on line? When it rains, do you wear your boots or do you wear your rubbers? Do you drink sodas, pops, or cokes?


Hell, I can say the same words in the same order and mean something different each time:

"I didn't say you were ugly."

"I didn't SAY you were ugly."

"I didn't say YOU were ugly."

"I didn't say you were UGLY."


The only way a monoliguistic language will work for a culture correctly is if the language is dead, with no more changes being made. And the dead language used in the U.S. is Latin. Latin terms used for legal purposes do not change from one generation to the next.

/note to self, don't post after taking OTC cold meds.
 
2014-02-05 12:50:08 AM  

impaler: that still doesn't mean that Coke's advertising campaign made didn't make the image the de-facto image for Santa.


FTFM.
 
2014-02-05 01:07:57 AM  

Vector R: I do find it somewhat offensive, as other countries aren't forced to be "diverse" by having THEIR national anthems sung in different languages. They have official languages that the natives speak, and we should too.


This sums up the basic problem.  The assholes who are pissed about the commercial don't even know what their national anthem *is*, but they damn sure want to biatch about the fact that they heard people singing in another language.

Vector R: I used to ride back and forth to campus before I got a car, FYI. I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking.


This is amusing. You're biatching about "the national anthem" and "OMG foreign language!" and crap, but in addition to not knowing what the national anthem is, you don't appear to be fluent in English

"I still take into the city occasionally because it's easier than parking. "

Really?

Would you like to diagram that sentence?
 
2014-02-05 01:10:32 AM  
E pulibus unum is proper 'Merican.  Duh.
 
2014-02-05 01:12:50 AM  

Vector R: ///People can still feel free to speak English in this country


To bad you don't free to speak English yourself, dumbass.
 
2014-02-05 01:15:13 AM  

ROFLMAO!!!!


You just knew this was comming
 
2014-02-05 01:16:50 AM  
I'm sorry folks, I can't teach you how to speak American. If I taught you the proper language of the americas (Sioux), you'd know when we plan to uprise and scalp you in your beds. Heheh.
 
2014-02-05 01:18:08 AM  

mr lawson: ROFLMAO!!!!
You just knew this was comming


If I was Coke. I would redo the commercial starting out with English, then parse through a half dozen Native American languages. Then spam prime-time with it over the next week.
 
2014-02-05 01:22:17 AM  
Obama agency rules Pepsi's use of aborted fetal cells in soft drinks constitutes 'ordinary business operations'

http://www.naturalnews.com/035276_Pepsi_fetal_cells_business_operati on s.html

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-05 01:23:04 AM  

ciberido: Am I really the Weeners the relevant xkcd?

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x428]

Fark, I am disappoint.


No, that was posted in the last thread. This should have been a follow up.
 
2014-02-05 01:23:23 AM  

redsquid: ciberido: HAMMERTOE: So, "e" in Latin translates to "out of"? I had figured it just meant "from".

There isn't a one-to-one translation of "e" from Latin into English.  But both "from" and "out of" are reasonable translations most of the time.

In general, you can't reasonably expect that a preposition in one language will exactly match a preposition in a completely different language the same way you might reasonably expect there to be one and only one word for "water."  Languages just don't work that way.  For that matter, even words for the most basic things like "water" may surprise you.

These variations in connotation and nuances of meaning are a good argument in favor of monolingual culture. The same law, bill or political speech will never mean exactly the same thing once it's been translated from one language to another.


Don't blame me.  I voted for Esperanto.
 
2014-02-05 01:26:22 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Here,  TV's Vinnie, read this link and kindly shut up.


Wow! Someone totally took a sh*t into your cereal bowl now, didn't they?
 
2014-02-05 01:26:59 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: TV's Vinnie: he MODERN Santa that we all know from the suit and hat was designed by Haddon Sunblom for the Coca Cola company as a way to promote sales during the non-Summer months.

And no it wasn't. Haven't you ever seen Snopes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddon_Sundblom
 
2014-02-05 01:27:27 AM  

impaler: that still doesn't mean that Coke's advertising campaign made didn't make the image the de-facto image for Santa.


No, but the fact that Nast came up with the de facto image of Santa does. Take a look at the link. Sure, Nast's version is a bit rustic compared with Sundblom's polished renderings, but that's partly due to the limitations of print reproduction available to Nast at the time, and even a casual glance at the illustrators who came between the two show that Sundblom hardly added anything more than highly specific illustrative burnishing. Every major element of the "modern" Santa image--the rotund figure, the beard, the jolly countenance, the workshop, the impish humor, the naughty and nice lists, the sack of toys, etc. is present in Nash's work. About the only thing anyone might find odd about his depiction now is that Nash's Santa appears to be wearing long johns rather than a coat and trousers--and Sundblom wasn't even the first to come up with that wardrobe change. Wyeth and Rockwell's versions are essentially identical except for quirks of style.
 
2014-02-05 01:31:48 AM  
Here's one more link that shows that Sundblom's work was just a stylistic polishing of a firmly established visual identity for Santa.
 
2014-02-05 02:01:18 AM  
<strong><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/8129036/89108127#c89108127" target="_blank">wiredroach</a>:</strong> <em>Here's one more link that shows that Sundblom's work was just a stylistic polishing of a firmly established visual identity for Santa.</em>

That shows varying styles of artists. It doesn't show that Coke's ads did not solidify one of those styles. We really don't know what the"iconic" image of Santa would be now without those ads. To say they didn't entrench a certain image is myopic.

Coke didn't invent the image of Santa. They settled the dispute
 
2014-02-05 02:08:56 AM  

Pattuq: Why haven't Americans changed the name of their language to plain "American" yet?  "It's America, speak English!" always makes me laugh.  They have no right to protectiveness over a language that isn't even theirs and that they've butchered to near-incomprehensibility over the centuries.


Hwæt! Wē Gār‐Dena in geār‐dagum
þēod‐cyninga þrym gefrūnon,
hū þā æðelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scēfing sceaðena þrēatum,
monegum mǣgðum meodo‐setla oftēah.
Egsode eorl, syððan ǣrest wearð
fēa‐sceaft funden: hē þæs frōfre gebād,
wēox under wolcnum, weorð‐myndum ðāh,
oð þæt him ǣghwylc þāra ymb‐sittendra
ofer hron‐rāde hȳran scolde,
gomban gyldan: þæt wæs gōd cyning!
 
2014-02-05 02:23:25 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Pattuq: Why haven't Americans changed the name of their language to plain "American" yet?  "It's America, speak English!" always makes me laugh.  They have no right to protectiveness over a language that isn't even theirs and that they've butchered to near-incomprehensibility over the centuries.

Hwæt! Wē Gār‐Dena in geār‐dagum
þēod‐cyninga þrym gefrūnon,
hū þā æðelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scēfing sceaðena þrēatum,
monegum mǣgðum meodo‐setla oftēah.
Egsode eorl, syððan ǣrest wearð
fēa‐sceaft funden: hē þæs frōfre gebād,
wēox under wolcnum, weorð‐myndum ðāh,
oð þæt him ǣghwylc þāra ymb‐sittendra
ofer hron‐rāde hȳran scolde,
gomban gyldan: þæt wæs gōd cyning!


There we go, some good English!
 
2014-02-05 02:45:09 AM  

bekaye: ciberido: Eddie Adams from Torrance: e pluribus unum

Isn't that like French for "please iron these plaid trousers" ?

No, it's Hungarian for "My hovercraft is full of eels."

No, it's Vulcan for "the ensign is gassy."


On Krypton, it means "aliens ate my diaphragm"
 
2014-02-05 05:18:23 AM  
You forgot, E Pluribus Unum was replaced with In God We Trust as a motto, by those that would divide America.

They also literally divided the term "one nation, indivisible" by cleaving it in two with the words "under God", thereby truly dividing the nation.

United we stood, divided we are falling.
 
2014-02-05 08:33:51 AM  

Bucky Katt: Obama agency rules Pepsi's use of aborted fetal cells in soft drinks constitutes 'ordinary business operations'

http://www.naturalnews.com/035276_Pepsi_fetal_cells_business_operati on s.html

[img.fark.net image 540x720]


Read your own link. Allegedly, a company uses isolated human taste sensors to test and develop flavors in Pepsi (I doubt very seriously these come from aborted fetuses; the disposal of those is highly regulated. More likely it comes from the unused zygotes left over from in vitro fertilization). Even if they use aborted fetal tissue, it doesn't wind up in the soda; they just use it to test the flavors.
 
2014-02-05 09:12:05 AM  
Outrage? Oh, you mean some random tweets? yeah, ok.
 
2014-02-05 10:09:29 AM  

moeburn: So when people from other cultures sing a traditional song that is part of American heritage, its fine, but when Katy Perry dresses up as a part of traditional Japanese heritage, it's racist?

For the record, they are both fine.  Cultural assimilation is always a good thing.


"People from other cultures". The point was that all those people were Americans.

That "America" is not just white and english speaking.

Over 50% of the children under 5 in the US are NOT white. America is changing. Thankfully that means the neocons and people who think "Leave it to beaver" was a documentary will grow increasingly irrelevant and eventually be a collection of angry old invalids shouting their hate at a broken TV set in a retirement home, whining about "how it used to be", who's relatives are too embarrassed of their boorish behaviour to ever visit.
 
2014-02-05 10:13:55 AM  

duckpoopy: I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.


I knowr, ight?
 
2014-02-05 10:21:19 AM  

impaler: That shows varying styles of artists. It doesn't show that Coke's ads did not solidify one of those styles. We really don't know what the"iconic" image of Santa would be now without those ads. To say they didn't entrench a certain image is myopic.

Coke didn't invent the image of Santa. They settled the dispute


From the link:

Although many artists still offered up their own interpretations of the character, Moore's version of St. Nicholas was cemented by the illustrations of American cartoonist Thomas Nast, who first portrayed Santa in a January 3, 1863 issue of Harper's Weekly. Although first depicting him in a fur coat covered in stars, Nast would later refine Santa's wardrobe into the now familiar red suit.

Nast's version of  Santa Claus was solidified by the 1920s thanks to artists like N.C. Wyeth, Norman Rockwell, J.C. Leyendecker, and other popular illustrators influenced by the famous cartoonist.

In 1931, Haddon Sundblom began 35 years of illustrating Santa-related advertisements for Coca-Cola, further establishing the classic image of Santa in contemporary American culture.


All Sundblom did was further extend an established icon...Santa's depiction by Nast and the interim artists graced the covers of pubs like Harper's and the Saturday Evening Post, which were the television of their time. You can disagree with the link's characterizations about who did what if you like, but the chronology of the images in it makes it pretty clear what we thought Santa looked like by the time Sundblom got to work. HIs stuff is beautifully rendered and he contributed a gorgeous sense of nostalgia and cheer to his images, but the character was well entrenched by the time he got to him.
 
2014-02-05 10:47:16 AM  

Ambitwistor: We're still talking about that?  Great, I get to recycle this:

[img.fark.net image 562x351]


"What?"
 
2014-02-05 12:27:49 PM  

spamdog: I think a lot of negative reactions is because people are sick to death of "diversity" mandates, not necessarily enacted by the state, but by the companies they work for, the marketing they see, and all the left-wingers that use it to club people over the head with. It's tiresome.

If you just want to bash Republicans to puff yourself up a bit, then go right ahead. But don't you feel like a bit of a sheep, bleating the same thing as 95% of everyone here?


Maybe your white male privilege is tiresome,
 
2014-02-05 12:40:52 PM  
Maybe your white male privilege is tiresome,

It was earned.
 
2014-02-05 01:37:58 PM  

duckpoopy: I am more offended by the unoriginal, unfunny idiots who repeatedly call it the 'Superb Owl'.


Well...I guess you can get farked, then. It makes me chuckle, and what one FARKer duckpoopy thinks doesn't impress me much.

/Superb Owl is best Owl
//Rotate your owl
 
2014-02-05 02:26:38 PM  

wiredroach: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In a couple of years it'll be:

SUPER BOWL L

That's it. Just L.

Let that sink in for a while.

[drewblood.com image 286x286]


Supero Bowlo? What's with that Spanish crap?? This is AMERICA!
 
2014-02-05 06:24:13 PM  
Yes, Out of Many, One. One nation, One society, One language....

Silly OP, made my argument for me...
 
2014-02-05 06:49:33 PM  

rka: Optimal_Illusion: So, seriously, tell me about how scared you guys are about foreigeners coming from overseas to wipe out your culture,

So, seriously. How often do you jump on the latest manufactured media/cultural freak-out de jure and conclude that anyone that matters in life cares about it enough to get on your soapbox?


It's actually a cheese box (we Native American love that government cheese.  seriously).  And as long as I can rely on a knee-jerk reaction such as yours to complete the follow-through, often enough.  It's not whether or not your friendly neighborhood Kiowa/Comanche Farker is making a big deal of it, it's me making a big deal out of others making a big deal out of it.  The guy was right, you can tell a lot more about someone by what they're against than what they're for.  Sometimes I just roll the expected, pre-packaged response out there, and see who jumps on it.  Not exactly trolling, but fishing none the less.  It's the Internet, where even your opinion isn't worth the electrochemical effort of the brain to read it, much less think it up.
 
2014-02-05 09:27:07 PM  

Russ1642: The vast majority of those tweets were sarcastic.


Dont lose that optimism.
 
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