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(The Raw Story)   Ted Cruz says that not enforcing federal anti-marijuana laws is "Dangerous to liberty." Umm do those words mean something different in whatever language they speak in your native homeland of Canada?   (rawstory.com ) divider line
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2014-02-04 04:18:02 PM  
I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.
 
2014-02-04 04:19:57 PM  
Do these words mean something different in Canada?

Nope, they're completely nonsensical here, too.
 
2014-02-04 04:20:32 PM  
I don't think anyone ever has any idea what this moron is trying to say.

Is he speaking French?

Not real French, but that French they speak in Canada that no one understands.
 
2014-02-04 04:20:45 PM  
What a true champion of small government.
 
2014-02-04 04:21:28 PM  

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.


Do you mean like Strangers on a Train or just not letting them out of the country again? Because I couldn't condone killing Justin Bieber even if he is this century's Dennis the Menace.
 
2014-02-04 04:22:51 PM  
i.imgur.com

I moved here from Canada and they think I'm slow, Eh.
 
2014-02-04 04:23:29 PM  
Ah yes, the "do what I want or else" stripe of liberty.  Also known as "not liberty".
 
2014-02-04 04:23:40 PM  
Allowing states to make their own laws in defiance of federal law could be dangerous to liberty.

I'm all for legalizing cannabis, so hey fark the federal government on that, right?

I'm not for institutional racism or bigotry that could become law in certain states so I kinda want the federal government enforcing those laws and states not having the power to decide for themselves if black people should only get 3/5th of a vote or if gay people go to jail.

The much better solution is federal legalization, which would be a huge boon to liberty.
 
2014-02-04 04:23:43 PM  
Are there federal laws for mary jane? Seems like it's a state law situation, considering individual states are deciding to legalize it.
 
2014-02-04 04:24:25 PM  
just goes to show you whose liberty the GOP is interested in protecting.
 
2014-02-04 04:24:47 PM  
I don't know, seemed to work well for this guy:

thecrankysociologists.com
 
2014-02-04 04:24:54 PM  
fact: republicans hate states rights
 
2014-02-04 04:25:13 PM  
Ted; go for it, this is a sure fire way to win votes for your party.

Plus, I'll give you ten dollars to say "fark states rights."
 
2014-02-04 04:25:22 PM  
Small government conservatism, Ladies and Gentlemen.
 
2014-02-04 04:26:37 PM  
So what Ted is saying here is that federal law should overrule state laws and amendments enacted by a popular vote?

/eyes Texas Proposition 2 seductively...
 
2014-02-04 04:27:07 PM  
Dude is flat out schizophrenic...

"Cruz said Obama overstepped his authority by refusing to prosecute marijuana users and sellers in Colorado and Washington state. Only Congress could enact such a policy, he argued.

"Anyone who is concerned about liberty should be concerned about the notion that this president over and over again has asserted the right to pick and choose what laws to follow," Cruz said.  "
 
2014-02-04 04:27:49 PM  

Semper IvXx: Allowing states to make their own laws in defiance of federal law could be dangerous to liberty.

I'm all for legalizing cannabis, so hey fark the federal government on that, right?

I'm not for institutional racism or bigotry that could become law in certain states so I kinda want the federal government enforcing those laws and states not having the power to decide for themselves if black people should only get 3/5th of a vote or if gay people go to jail.

The much better solution is federal legalization, which would be a huge boon to liberty.


I am curious as to what would happen if all 50 states legalized it (and territories), yet it was still illegal at the federal level.  the whole is greater than the sum of its parts or something?

would commerce clause start to run into application issues?
 
2014-02-04 04:30:36 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-04 04:31:35 PM  
Not enforcing ____ is dangerous to liberty

...Federal marijuana laws
...Federal income taxes
...Securities regulations
...the ACA health insurance mandate
...Federal spending as required by the Congressional budget
 
2014-02-04 04:32:24 PM  
By liberty, he means the freedom of the law enforcement industry to make billions.
 
2014-02-04 04:34:38 PM  
why does Rafael hate states rights, smaller less intrusive government ,more personal freedom...


 /It's because he's an asshole isnt it?
 
2014-02-04 04:35:05 PM  

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.


Can't we think of something else? How about we keep the Shat instead?
 
2014-02-04 04:39:06 PM  
Wait, I thought that these brain trust founders were all about "state's rights"? Anyone got the script for this comedy of errors? I seem to have gotten lost at some point.
 
2014-02-04 04:41:08 PM  
STATES RIGHTS!   STATES RIGHTS!   STATES RIGHTS!!!!!ELEVENTY!!!!

Except when we don't like what the states are doing, of course.
 
2014-02-04 04:46:08 PM  
This is a mudflap on Ted's car:

img267.imageshack.us
 
2014-02-04 04:47:39 PM  

Triple Oak: Are there federal laws for mary jane? Seems like it's a state law situation, considering individual states are deciding to legalize it.


Yeah, there are.  Which is part of the problem- growers and dispensaries can be in full compliance with state law, and still get raided by the DEA.  Hell, I know that, and

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.


I'm not even American.  Back to school with you.

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.


Seems to me that we've successfully pawned off both of them on you.  But we've also left you in custody of Evangeline Lily, so yeah.
 
2014-02-04 04:47:41 PM  
Imprisoning people creates freedom. Study it out.
 
2014-02-04 04:48:02 PM  
New rule: if you come out strongly against pot, you have to try it, just once.

On national TV. During primetime.

// "My mellow Afericans..."
 
2014-02-04 04:49:02 PM  

unyon: Triple Oak: Are there federal laws for mary jane? Seems like it's a state law situation, considering individual states are deciding to legalize it.

Yeah, there are.  Which is part of the problem- growers and dispensaries can be in full compliance with state law, and still get raided by the DEA.  Hell, I know that, and orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.

I'm not even American.  Back to school with you.

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.

Seems to me that we've successfully pawned off both of them on you.  But we've also left you in custody of Evangeline Lily, so yeah.


I'm afraid you aren't going to be happy with the condition she's returned in.
 
2014-02-04 04:50:13 PM  

Arkanaut: Not enforcing ____ is dangerous to liberty

...Federal marijuana laws
...Federal income taxes
...Securities regulations
...the ACA health insurance mandate
...Federal spending as required by the Congressional budget


Roe v. Wade
The establishment clause of the First Amendment

Wyalt Derp: Imprisoning people creates freedom. Study it out.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-04 04:51:48 PM  

brantgoose: orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.

Do you mean like Strangers on a Train or just not letting them out of the country again? Because I couldn't condone killing Justin Bieber even if he is this century's Dennis the Menace.


Two trains running opposite directions on the same track.
 
2014-02-04 04:52:53 PM  

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.


No. We already have one Ezra Levant, we don't need the other one too.
 
2014-02-04 04:53:41 PM  
The Federal Gov't ignoring pot laws I dont have an issue. But why respect state laws for pot and not industries that contradict other federal laws...like sports gambling? Specifically in NJ?
 
2014-02-04 04:56:55 PM  

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.


Nope. We already sold off his sh*t. There's nothing here for him now.

Besides, Bieber is gonna party with Rob Ford and overdose anyway.
 
2014-02-04 04:57:52 PM  

Headso: fact: republicans hate states rights


No, they love states rights... as long as it doesn't interfere with their right to tell the states what to do.
 
2014-02-04 04:59:48 PM  
Funny how states rights are always on these people's lips until it's something that gets in their way of profit.
 
2014-02-04 05:00:30 PM  
Dear Senator Cruz,

You know the budget thing you seem to want to never pass and that whole "shutting down the federal government" thing you voted for? Well it turns out that enforcing laws costs money. Since the federal government has limited resources, the President has to determine how best to allocate said resources. If he thinks it is a waste of money going after pot dealers, then he can direct the various federal law enforcement agencies to not do that. It's his job.

Sincerely,

Me.
 
2014-02-04 05:02:12 PM  
Coming from the side that screams states rights, this is utterly hysterical.
 
2014-02-04 05:04:55 PM  
Does he realize how much money Colorado collected in taxes last month?   and these are sales taxes - same rate rich or poor (you 1%-ers are safe).

I'm surprised he's not sucking his dick by now.
 
2014-02-04 05:13:48 PM  
correct me if I'm wrong, but the federal legislation dictates the existence of drug "schedules", but does not place mj in a specific schedule. the decision to put mj in a prohibative schedule was enacted entirely by the executive branch. so, when a state legislates mj specifically, they're up against policy, not law. so how does the balance of power go when it's state legislature vs federal executive? I don't see this as state legislature v federal legislature... right?
 
2014-02-04 05:14:07 PM  
To some degree he has a point there.  If I decided to start a pot business in Pennsylvania the justice system should see that as exactly the same, as it regards federal law, as it would be viewed if I was in Denver.  Our federal laws are not meant to be enforced differently in different states unless they were specifically written to work that way.  (Like the VRA the idiot Supreme Court trashed)

Obviously this law should ideally never be enforced anywhere, the federal prohibition should be repealed, and any non-violent offenders should be released.  That doesn't mean I'm happy that I would be treated differently by law enforcement if I commited a crime just because I'm in a state full of stupid, old voters.
 
2014-02-04 05:22:18 PM  
So legalizing pot is going to become a long drawn out bloody battle after all.
 
2014-02-04 05:23:15 PM  

furiousxgeorge: To some degree he has a point there.  If I decided to start a pot business in Pennsylvania the justice system should see that as exactly the same, as it regards federal law, as it would be viewed if I was in Denver.  Our federal laws are not meant to be enforced differently in different states unless they were specifically written to work that way.  (Like the VRA the idiot Supreme Court trashed)

Obviously this law should ideally never be enforced anywhere, the federal prohibition should be repealed, and any non-violent offenders should be released.  That doesn't mean I'm happy that I would be treated differently by law enforcement if I commited a crime just because I'm in a state full of stupid, old voters.


You mean people like this guy?
 
2014-02-04 05:27:19 PM  

orangehat: I've got a deal for Canada: We'll take Justin Bieber if you'll take Ted Cruz.


Fark that noise. Take 'em both back.
 
2014-02-04 05:27:35 PM  
And I heard to day on CNN that congress today was debating whether cannabis was a "gateway drug".

Sheesh.
 
2014-02-04 05:30:42 PM  
www.bagnewsnotes.com
 
2014-02-04 05:33:08 PM  
FTFA: "The concept of the rule of law doesn't just mean you've got lots of laws, just about every society has laws, and indeed dictatorships typically suffer from an abundance of laws."

Huh?  Dictators don't need laws because they are the law. Even when they have rubber stamp court systems there is no reason to have lots of laws as opposed to a small number that can be interpreted however liked.

I would guess that the US (with federal, state, and local laws) has the most laws per citizen in the history of the world.

One of the big problems with China (which is still pretty much a dictatorship) is they have few laws and a lousy court system.

Maybe that explains the Libertarian/Free-marketeers admiration of China though only think "few laws" translates to "freedom".
 
2014-02-04 05:36:53 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: Coming from the side that screams states rights, this is utterly hysterical.


States Rights: offer void in in the states not controlled by a super-majority of heavily gerrymandered Republicans.

Why is anyone surprised by this?
 
2014-02-04 05:38:36 PM  

Mouldy Squid: You mean people like this guy?


If it makes you stupid enough to think committing international crimes, even petty ones, is a good idea, then maybe Pot  is a dangerous drug.

That's pretty nearly too stupid to live territory, is what that is.  Some jail time is about the best you can expect off of that one, even crossing a border to shoplift or tag something with spray-paint is a bad idea so I can't imagine who'd be dumb enough to cross a border to do something with an entire national enforcement department dedicated to it.
 
2014-02-04 05:47:01 PM  

Mouldy Squid: furiousxgeorge: To some degree he has a point there.  If I decided to start a pot business in Pennsylvania the justice system should see that as exactly the same, as it regards federal law, as it would be viewed if I was in Denver.  Our federal laws are not meant to be enforced differently in different states unless they were specifically written to work that way.  (Like the VRA the idiot Supreme Court trashed)

Obviously this law should ideally never be enforced anywhere, the federal prohibition should be repealed, and any non-violent offenders should be released.  That doesn't mean I'm happy that I would be treated differently by law enforcement if I commited a crime just because I'm in a state full of stupid, old voters.

You mean people like this guy?


Absolutely.  I consider him a political prisoner more than someone in jail for selling seeds.  Lots of petty and bizzare shiat happened in the War on Pot during the Bush years, including things like what happened to Emery and to Tommy Chong. How anyone could have made those arrests and prosecutions honestly thinking they were performing an act of service to the United States is beyond me.
 
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