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2014-02-04 04:41:56 PM

Magorn: mcmnky: An adult woman?

This is an improvement.

Not good, but at least a step in the right direction.
Well No actual priests involved in this story either.,
And I have to say I find this story more than a little odd in that she apparently never complained to anyone, not the cops, not the monsignors, anyone after she was not merely sexually harassed but  beaten and even raped.   I know guys are stupid but if the guy did not feel they were in a consensual DS or BDSM relationship why would he send her so much incriminating evidence?


She did report part of it to the preists, AND they apparently had access to video feeds of the abuse at the time, with full audio. They are also defendants of the wrongful termination suit.
 
2014-02-04 04:43:39 PM

That Guy Jeff: Multiple years of getting up in the morning, getting dressed, and heading off to the job where they abuse you, literally? Meh, my pity must have stopped at a police station at the way to work today because it sure as hell ain't here.

Unless the able-bodied, non-disabled, adult victim is physically locked in a cage for a few years, there's absolutely no way the "victim" can be abused for that long without choosing to allow it to continue for that long. If someone rapes you, you go to the police. Hell, some people might even just move or get a new job or kill themselves. But you don't go back the next day, and the next day, and the next day, and so on for years. How many times does someone get to decide to show up to be spanked before we call it "consensual"? I vote for "as soon as they know it's going to happen if they show up."


The guy was repeatedly telling her that she would end up homeless if she didn't work there. Most abusers secure a mental prison before doing anything physical (i.e. you and your daughter will be living under a bridge unless you let me spank you).
 
2014-02-04 04:43:54 PM

onyxruby: If this story is real she'll have ample evidence by way of text messages and emails and possibly video evidence. If it is real she'll have a solid and well justified court case. It sounds like prison time could be in the works. What I find curious is there is no talk about any of this evidence being presented. The evidence should be overwheming according to the story.


She did have the texts and emails, and explained those as part of the complaint. The video would be held by the church, and since this is not a criminal case, but a civil wrongful termination suit...
 
2014-02-04 04:49:17 PM

That Guy Jeff: Multiple years of getting up in the morning, getting dressed, and heading off to the job where they abuse you, literally? Meh, my pity must have stopped at a police station at the way to work today because it sure as hell ain't here.

Unless the able-bodied, non-disabled, adult victim is physically locked in a cage for a few years, there's absolutely no way the "victim" can be abused for that long without choosing to allow it to continue for that long. If someone rapes you, you go to the police. Hell, some people might even just move or get a new job or kill themselves. But you don't go back the next day, and the next day, and the next day, and so on for years. How many times does someone get to decide to show up to be spanked before we call it "consensual"? I vote for "as soon as they know it's going to happen if they show up."


Over the course of a year she avoided him, tried reporting him to the monsignors, and kept trying and applying for different jobs, probably getting screwed over by her reference (Said boss) who would want to keep her around, and even while avoiding him would get surprise attacked, and repeatedly told him no, stop!

She should have taken her complaints to the police, to be sure, but she really needed the money, and had no alternative means of support. She also felt that if she accused the guy, he would ensure she had no job in the morning.
:\

Oh and she was terminated due to "attendance issues" so something tells me she was actively trying to avoid going to work for a very good reason, just as you say she should have.
 
2014-02-04 04:50:10 PM

vsavatar: idesofmarch: [content9.flixster.com image 462x261]
I can't believe I'm the first one to think of this.

I might have thought of it, had I even known what movie it was from.  So...what movie is it from?


secretary.

Or as I like to call it Sex-cretary. :D
 
2014-02-04 04:53:29 PM

txchad: You mean like how Woody Allen sodomized his daughter?


Not quite step daughter, but still counts.

Oh, and he was one of the first and most prominent and vocal people who signed the petition to get Roman Polanski pardoned from his conviction of raping and drugging a 14 year old girl in Jack Nicholson's home back in the 70's.
 
2014-02-04 05:00:48 PM

tlars699: idesofmarch: [content9.flixster.com image 462x261]
I can't believe I'm the first one to think of this.

You weren't, but I was busy reading the article.

/Hawt like Spader


::checks profile::

How YOU doin'?
 
2014-02-04 05:02:20 PM

tlars699: That Guy Jeff: Multiple years of getting up in the morning, getting dressed, and heading off to the job where they abuse you, literally? Meh, my pity must have stopped at a police station at the way to work today because it sure as hell ain't here.

Unless the able-bodied, non-disabled, adult victim is physically locked in a cage for a few years, there's absolutely no way the "victim" can be abused for that long without choosing to allow it to continue for that long. If someone rapes you, you go to the police. Hell, some people might even just move or get a new job or kill themselves. But you don't go back the next day, and the next day, and the next day, and so on for years. How many times does someone get to decide to show up to be spanked before we call it "consensual"? I vote for "as soon as they know it's going to happen if they show up."

Over the course of a year she avoided him, tried reporting him to the monsignors, and kept trying and applying for different jobs, probably getting screwed over by her reference (Said boss) who would want to keep her around, and even while avoiding him would get surprise attacked, and repeatedly told him no, stop!

She should have taken her complaints to the police, to be sure, but she really needed the money, and had no alternative means of support. She also felt that if she accused the guy, he would ensure she had no job in the morning.
:\

Oh and she was terminated due to "attendance issues" so something tells me she was actively trying to avoid going to work for a very good reason, just as you say she should have.


Soooooo, what your saying is she didn't like getting spanked and farked in the ass but she kept showing up anyway because she needed the money? That's called "being a prostitute".
 
2014-02-04 05:09:46 PM

Magorn: mcmnky: An adult woman?

This is an improvement.

Not good, but at least a step in the right direction.
Well No actual priests involved in this story either.,
And I have to say I find this story more than a little odd in that she apparently never complained to anyone, not the cops, not the monsignors, anyone after she was not merely sexually harassed but  beaten and even raped.   I know guys are stupid but if the guy did not feel they were in a consensual DS or BDSM relationship why would he send her so much incriminating evidence?


Hubris?

Oh wait no one involved with a powerful organization with a proven track record of being above the law would possess overwhelming arrogance and a sense of smug entitlement.
 
2014-02-04 05:12:39 PM
That Guy Jeff: tlars699: That Guy Jeff: Multiple years of getting up in the morning, getting dressed, and heading off to the job where they abuse you, literally? Meh, my pity must have stopped at a police station at the way to work today because it sure as hell ain't here.

Unless the able-bodied, non-disabled, adult victim is physically locked in a cage for a few years, there's absolutely no way the "victim" can be abused for that long without choosing to allow it to continue for that long. If someone rapes you, you go to the police. Hell, some people might even just move or get a new job or kill themselves. But you don't go back the next day, and the next day, and the next day, and so on for years. How many times does someone get to decide to show up to be spanked before we call it "consensual"? I vote for "as soon as they know it's going to happen if they show up."

Over the course of a year she avoided him, tried reporting him to the monsignors, and kept trying and applying for different jobs, probably getting screwed over by her reference (Said boss) who would want to keep her around, and even while avoiding him would get surprise attacked, and repeatedly told him no, stop!

She should have taken her complaints to the police, to be sure, but she really needed the money, and had no alternative means of support. She also felt that if she accused the guy, he would ensure she had no job in the morning.
:\

Oh and she was terminated due to "attendance issues" so something tells me she was actively trying to avoid going to work for a very good reason, just as you say she should have.

Soooooo, what your saying is she didn't like getting spanked and farked in the ass but she kept showing up anyway because she needed the money? That's called "being a prostitute".


Except she also had to do actual paperwork, and got paid paperwork money, not prostitute money.

I would suggest that if you are going to continue that without going to the police, you try reverse psychology on the guy, by pretending to enjoy it; ie the thinking goes: if you enjoy it, then he might stop enjoying it so much, because you have regained power and control over the situation.

Then again I've seen too many horror movies, and know that if the guy were this manipulative and controlling, he wouldn't like seeing the lady get the "upper hand" without getting an upper cut or two, too.


Seriously, lady, Y U NO GO TO POLICE?
The money can't have been that good. :\
 
2014-02-04 05:20:20 PM
You pay extra for that sort of thing in vegas.
 
2014-02-04 05:24:04 PM
Ahhh ... religious morals.

Something to aspire to!!
 
2014-02-04 05:27:46 PM
But... she is an adult, why would a Catholic even...

Jhona Mathews needed a job to support her 3-year-old daughter...

Oh, there it is. They were likely hoping the mom could hook them up.
 
2014-02-04 05:29:19 PM

tlars699: onyxruby: If this story is real she'll have ample evidence by way of text messages and emails and possibly video evidence. If it is real she'll have a solid and well justified court case. It sounds like prison time could be in the works. What I find curious is there is no talk about any of this evidence being presented. The evidence should be overwheming according to the story.

She did have the texts and emails, and explained those as part of the complaint. The video would be held by the church, and since this is not a criminal case, but a civil wrongful termination suit...


As someone that has previously been falsely accused I have learned that there is a significant difference between claiming and producing something.

In my case my crazy ex tried wild accusations a few times in attempts to get custody. She never thought someone would call her bluffs. The cops, prosecutors and courts all called her bluff each time she tried.

I came out cleared every single time. Subponeas were sent and investigations were done. Witnesses, cell phone and 911 calls are samples of things that turned out not to actually exist.

Now if these actually turn out to be real than prison time and compensation are well justified.
 
2014-02-04 05:35:12 PM
I think this entire situation is a disgusting and horrible violation, and that the two defendants should go to prison for a long time, but I'm not sure because I stopped reading TFA after my third orgasm.
 
2014-02-04 07:02:34 PM
wow you would think after a week or a month of abuse she would go to the cops .... who waits a year?
unless she really enjoyed it..until she didn't and wanted to cash in!
 
2014-02-04 07:36:57 PM

Anayalator: In addition to your headline is a sentence fragment.


I assure you. It are intentional.

More:  http://francescoesguerra.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/63/
 
2014-02-04 07:40:37 PM
and you don't like the death penalty for these sick and depraved monkeys?
 
2014-02-04 08:13:39 PM
Church says she had sticky fingers, which may be why she kept going back for more.

If true, she doesn't have to worry about being homeless for a while....
 
2014-02-04 09:04:11 PM

ciberido: All they had to do was turn on the grail-shaped beacon.  They would have gotten volunteers.



No, it's too perilous.
 
2014-02-04 09:20:10 PM
I'm probably going to go against the grain here. And before anyone accuses me of sexism, I'm female.

We're talking about an adult woman here. There's no allegations of threats of violence or anything other than being fired. At some point the judge or somebody's gotta ask just what was so terrible about being fired that the defendant was willing to agree to all of these sexual acts. Because it seems to me that however bad working at McDonalds is, it's still a hell of a lot better than being forced into depraved sex acts over and over again unless said depraved sex acts were not so unwanted after all. Now should this guy get his ass booted out of his job? Absofarkinglutely. But criminal charges or major financial damages against the church seem a little ridiculous.
 
2014-02-04 09:34:25 PM
ts2.explicit.bing.net
 
2014-02-05 01:40:07 AM

dopekitty74: I'd have considered that a perk....


I fapped
 
2014-02-05 03:12:50 AM

kortex: dopekitty74: I'd have considered that a perk....

I fapped


Lulz
 
2014-02-05 05:35:41 AM
RAPE CULTURE! VICTIM BLAMING! WHITE PRIVILEGE! MALE PRIVILEGE!

OK, I'm done, can I fap now?
 
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