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(Komo)   What do you call a Seattle cop with 120 complaints against him? Deputy. What about 121? Fired   (komonews.com) divider line 23
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2014-02-04 11:17:16 AM
5 votes:
However imperfect, I'm happy about this story. A bad cop's deeds are documented and then he's fired? And the final straw was his harassing a reporter who was exercising his rights to photograph stuff in public? This is all very good. More please.
2014-02-04 11:34:39 AM
4 votes:

lizyrd: Inchoate: However imperfect, I'm happy about this story. A bad cop's deeds are documented and then he's fired? And the final straw was his harassing a reporter who was exercising his rights to photograph stuff in public? This is all very good. More please.

Yeah, really. The guy went through a progressive disciplinary process, including a demotion (at a guess, a $5000-$8000/year base pay rip), where his misdeeds were documented properly. He was finally fired. Not much here to get in a lather about.


Well, I'd say the bigger issue here is why an officer who had 120 disciplinary complaints against him (compared to the next highest at 23) wasn't fired earlier. It's nice that he finally got fired, but it's a sign of some big problems at the Department that the thing that finally got him fired was a  very public threat against a reporter, not all the private but documented misdeeds he'd done before.
2014-02-04 11:24:19 AM
3 votes:
Only reason he got turfed was because the threat was on tape.
2014-02-04 11:21:04 AM
3 votes:
Cops need a Three Strikes rule. One strike if that one involves something egregious like harming an innocent or unarmed person or shooting someone's dog, etc.

More severe penalties for cops who go too far would get us better cops.
2014-02-04 12:00:28 PM
2 votes:
So the cop with the next highest number of complaints at 23 can get away with about 90 more before they fire him too?

If the average # of complaints is 20 (give or take) and this guy has 120, I'd say the problem is pretty obvious.
Ant
2014-02-04 11:55:15 AM
2 votes:

Brick-House: Sir -- you can never go wrong using sir when addressing a cop, unless the cop is a woman, then its Sugar Tits.


I am physically incapable of calling anyone sir. If I did try to call someone sir, it would come out snarky and insincere.
2014-02-04 11:38:27 AM
2 votes:

iheartscotch: We had some 17 year old kid come and try to steal stuff the other day. His mom called later to complain about how he got caught.

I'm not saying all complaints against cops are like that; but, many are. Especially if the officer has to forcibly detain someone.


Years ago I worked with a guy that got fired for stealing, they had him on video doing it. His mom called up biatching about how what we did was illegal, he should have gotten a warning and she was going to sue. They asked her who was her lawyer so they could send them the video.
2014-02-04 11:35:19 AM
2 votes:

iheartscotch: We had some 17 year old kid come and try to steal stuff the other day. His mom called later to complain about how he got caught.

I'm not saying all complaints against cops are like that; but, many are. Especially if the officer has to forcibly detain someone.


I'll apply the exact same logic a cop would apply to me ; "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
2014-02-04 11:30:15 AM
2 votes:

Inchoate: However imperfect, I'm happy about this story. A bad cop's deeds are documented and then he's fired? And the final straw was his harassing a reporter who was exercising his rights to photograph stuff in public? This is all very good. More please.


Yeah, really. The guy went through a progressive disciplinary process, including a demotion (at a guess, a $5000-$8000/year base pay rip), where his misdeeds were documented properly. He was finally fired. Not much here to get in a lather about.
2014-02-04 11:27:16 AM
2 votes:

iheartscotch: We had some 17 year old kid come and try to steal stuff the other day. His mom called later to complain about how he got caught.

I'm not saying all complaints against cops are like that; but, many are. Especially if the officer has to forcibly detain someone.


The next highest number of complaints was 23

This guy had nearly 100 more complaints than the next worst officer. He also threatened to take a family's daughter away when they accidentally drove into a restricted highway zone. F*ck this guy.
2014-02-04 11:14:05 AM
2 votes:

The more you eat the more you fart: Whatever. Im sure its of little consolation to all the people he farked over before they finally fired him.


Actually, it is of some consolation.  Try making better points next time.
2014-02-04 11:11:28 AM
2 votes:
We had some 17 year old kid come and try to steal stuff the other day. His mom called later to complain about how he got caught.

I'm not saying all complaints against cops are like that; but, many are. Especially if the officer has to forcibly detain someone.
2014-02-04 04:48:44 PM
1 votes:
I remember seeing the video at the time the story broke. The officer was so mouthy I remember thinking to myself 'just stop talking, just stop talking...you're on video, the wee blinking red light means the camera is on...' Someone doesn't start being that abusive and entitled. He works up to it so I'd imagine a lot didn't make it into the press.

For those who care, there's some follow up on Petapixel.
2014-02-04 12:38:00 PM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: "Suffice it to say, in my judgement, the evidence shows that (i) you abused your authority in your dealings with Mr. Holden on July 30, and (ii) thereafter, rather than be accountable, you attempted to recast events in a light more favorable to you," Urquhart said in his letter to Saulet.

/Hmm...sounds like most politicians.


So are you saying that most politicians would make good police officers or are you saying that most police officers would make good politicians?
2014-02-04 12:25:14 PM
1 votes:
"Suffice it to say, in my judgement, the evidence shows that (i) you abused your authority in your dealings with Mr. Holden on July 30, and (ii) thereafter, rather than be accountable, you attempted to recast events in a light more favorable to you," Urquhart said in his letter to Saulet.

/Hmm...sounds like most politicians.
2014-02-04 12:00:38 PM
1 votes:

LessO2: Only reason he got turfed was because the threat was on tape.


I am shocked, SHOCKED, that the pigs never confiscated said tape and then somehow lost, erased or destroyed it.

If this POS was working at any other job, he would have been fired after the first few complaints...
2014-02-04 11:59:08 AM
1 votes:

Ant: Brick-House: Sir -- you can never go wrong using sir when addressing a cop, unless the cop is a woman, then its Sugar Tits.

I am physically incapable of calling anyone sir. If I did try to call someone sir, it would come out snarky and insincere.


That's why  Brick-House is wrong; you call a police officer "Officer" if you want to be safe.
2014-02-04 11:48:51 AM
1 votes:
And nothing of value was lost. Enjoy your new job as a mall cop or security for some HOA.

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2014-02-04 11:48:15 AM
1 votes:
Saulet's actions in dealing with Holden played into "some of the most basic fears among some citizens, which is that a police officer may indiscriminately exercise his or her personal power in violation of their rights."

99% problems.
2014-02-04 11:31:36 AM
1 votes:

The more you eat the more you fart: Superjew: The more you eat the more you fart: Whatever. Im sure its of little consolation to all the people he farked over before they finally fired him.

Actually, it is of some consolation.  Try making better points next time.

Why? Are they going to get compensated? Are they going to get the money back that they paid in fines, etc?


No jackass, they're getting the satisfaction of seeing this piece of shiat kicked off the force.

I know people who have had run-ins with Saulet, and they're happy to see this outcome, even if it is late in coming.
2014-02-04 11:29:35 AM
1 votes:
Fired by the county but hired by the city in 3...2...1...
2014-02-04 11:24:51 AM
1 votes:
Sir -- you can never go wrong using sir when addressing a cop, unless the cop is a woman, then its Sugar Tits.
2014-02-04 11:16:15 AM
1 votes:
At some point you find out, no matter how productive you are, Legal and HR are going to get together and decide another trip to Diversity Training just isn't going to help.
 
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