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2014-02-04 04:17:49 PM  

torr5962: This dude married the step-daughter that he helped raise.....and got away with it. No one bats an eyelash that "Manhattan" is pretty much a story about what he'd like to do hiding behind fiction. Almost everything he's ever played in show a strange, borderline perverse lecherousness that becomes more creepy when one remembers that he married the step-daughter that he helped raise.

Now he's accused of child molestation and he the Hollywood elite defend him.

It reminds me of the Chris Rock-Michael Jackson defense:  "We love Mike so much we let the first kid go."


Ultimately I'm torn because I love many of his movies. But the double-standard we have for talented people is sickening.


He did not help raise her.  Was never his stepdaughter, and even Mia said he only saw her about three times, until she was 19 and Mia made her go to basketball games with Woody.

Those are the facts.
 
2014-02-04 04:21:14 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: torr5962: married the step-daughter that he helped raise

No. And you're pretty much missing the point of that relationship in "Manhattan." Go ahead and have an opinion, believe he's guilty but do some better research before you convict a man of penetrating a seven year old girl.


The actual evidence merits comment but why do some many have completely fabricate and misrepresent things to make it worse? Should someone post the picture of an asian girl on his lap at a game claiming it's soon yi, fist pump then drop the mic?

The younger girl in Manhattan was not a child.
 
2014-02-04 04:24:25 PM  

torr5962: This dude married the step-daughter that he helped raise.....and got away with it. No one bats an eyelash that "Manhattan" is pretty much a story about what he'd like to do hiding behind fiction. Almost everything he's ever played in show a strange, borderline perverse lecherousness that becomes more creepy when one remembers that he married the step-daughter that he helped raise.

Now he's accused of child molestation and he the Hollywood elite defend him.

It reminds me of the Chris Rock-Michael Jackson defense:  "We love Mike so much we let the first kid go."


Ultimately I'm torn because I love many of his movies. But the double-standard we have for talented people is sickening.


Read the god damn thread.

He did not marry "the step-daughter he helped raise" he married his girlfriend's adoptive daughter, who he met three times before she turned 19.

I can't comment either way on whether Allen molested his daughter, but there was not enough evidence to prosecute him AND he began courting his wife after she was 19.

Get the facts straight and stop repeatedly using "facts" that have been proven false to make a "point."
 
2014-02-04 04:36:03 PM  
Hey maybe you guys are right and Im just trolling. Crimes and Misdemeanors, Radio Days and Love and Death are three of my favorite movies.

You convinced me.
He probably didnt finger-bang Farrow's kid. He just likes 17yr old pussy like every other guy from 56-100yrs old.
 
2014-02-04 05:01:33 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think she's close to 30.


Yeah I got the two statements confused but still, after reading all the shiat that went on I dont believe anything about her story
 
2014-02-04 05:17:24 PM  
Baldwin's and Blanchett's responses were appropriate. Walters' was not.
 
2014-02-04 05:28:04 PM  

frepnog: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: And I have seen some grown women(and men) lie their asses off about some horrendously stupid sh*t.

Why would the girl still be lying?  What is there to gain?


Sigh, there is nothing to gain, we've been over this....There is only what Mia has lost. She lost her career & her celebrity, and she and her brood will forever be bitter about that. Feel free to discount this at very turn.


No one really gives much of a shiat about woody these days.  No one is anxiously awaiting the next Woody Allen film.


Nominated for an Oscar for Blue Jasmine in 2014, and won in 2012 for Midnight in Paris.


 No one gives a shiat about Mia.  No one really cares about these kids.  Dylan is not going to get some big dollar payday; it isn't like Kanye beat her up.


Finally, you're starting to get it. Mia and her children have been forgotten, and that is what they are so bitter and vindictive about towards Allen.


Why would she still be lying?


She has one parent left, if she recanted her story, her relationship with her mother would be over. Period.


It reads sincere.  I believe her.


The fact that Mia slept around means nothing.


Nothing that smacks of questionable character that Mia has done seems to be of any consequence to you, IMO.

 
2014-02-04 05:30:00 PM  
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2014-02-04 05:37:53 PM  
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2014-02-04 05:55:58 PM  
Barbra Warblers?

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2014-02-04 06:12:09 PM  
Oh yeah sorry I may have been a bit reactionary in the last thread about this.
 
2014-02-04 06:54:29 PM  
Bottom Line:  I have no way of knowing whether Woody did or not (If he did, I wouldn't care if he was de-nutted by a rusty and dull knife)

But what I do know (from both personal experience as an attorney and by reading the statistics) that in the 80's the number of (predominantly) women who in a divorce proceeding used allegations of child sexual abuse against their soon to be ex's grew by incredible amounts.  In many cases these allegations were completely unfounded and were a tactic used to get some vengeance and/or create a situation where they would get a better divorce settlement.

I understand completely Mia Farrow being all sorts of PO'd when she found her boyfriend had fallen for a younger woman (for once, maybe she found out what it was like when the shoe was on the other foot.)

But the mere fact that a child, and later grown woman may have made allegations is not exactly "proof" that he did something wrong.  Particularly in light of what a very thorough investigation by both the authorities in Connecticut and New York found which was basically nothing.

For the notion that somehow Allen was a "big star" or "rich" so "he got away with it" type nonsense.  Do you folks not realize that Mia Farrow is Hollywood royalty?  Her father, John Farrow was an Academy Award winning director/writer/producer; her mother was Maureen O'Sullivan who had a show biz career that spanned six decades and who is perhaps best known as "Jane" from the Tarzan series of films.   She had inherited quite a bit of wealth and received even more in her divorce from Frank Sinatra.  At the time this was happening, Sinatra actually got involved in the investigation.  I think even the casual observer will admit that Sinatra is off the charts in the "star league" compared to Allen.
 
2014-02-04 07:17:29 PM  

lawboy87: Bottom Line:  I have no way of knowing whether Woody did or not (If he did, I wouldn't care if he was de-nutted by a rusty and dull knife)

But what I do know (from both personal experience as an attorney and by reading the statistics) that in the 80's the number of (predominantly) women who in a divorce proceeding used allegations of child sexual abuse against their soon to be ex's grew by incredible amounts. (irrelevant, prejudicial and not admissible, counselor) In many cases these allegations were completely unfounded and were a tactic used to get some vengeance and/or create a situation where they would get a better divorce settlement. (ditto, counselor. The jury will be excused while the counselor is advised of the thin wire he is walking with an immediate contempt charge awaiting)

I understand completely Mia Farrow being all sorts of PO'd when she found her boyfriend had fallen for a younger woman (her adopted daughter, allegedly 19 at the time) (for once, maybe she found out what it was like when the shoe was on the other foot.) (inadmissible. irrelevant)

But the mere fact that a child, and later grown woman may have made (counselor has stipulated that allegations have been made, or he failed to read the letter and is thus dismissed from the case for gross negligence) allegations is not exactly "proof" that he did something wrong. (Eyewitness evidence is often the best and most damning proof, surely one of your law professors mentioned this) Particularly in light of what a very thorough investigation by both the authorities in Connecticut and New York found which was basically nothing.

For the notion that somehow Allen was a "big star" or "rich" so "he got away with it" type nonsense.  Do you folks not realize that Mia Farrow is Hollywood royalty?  Her father, John Farrow was an Academy Award winning director/writer/producer; her mother was Maureen O'Sullivan who had a show biz career that spanned six decades and who is perhaps best known as "Jane" from the Tarzan series of films.   She had inherited quite a bit of wealth and received even more in her divorce from Frank Sinatra.  At the time this was happening, Sinatra actually got involved in the investigation.  I think even the casual observer will admit that Sinatra is off the charts in the "star league" compared to Allen.

(All of this is nonsense. Mia Farrow is not the one who wrote the letter about her personal experiences with Mr. Allen.)
 
2014-02-04 07:27:32 PM  
I liked Fark's earlier, funny threads.
 
m00
2014-02-04 07:34:59 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I guess after the whole Soon-Yi Previn thing, most reasonable people realized this guy is probably a creep.


Soon-Yi wasn't his daughter in any sense of the word. She was his girlfriend's adopted daughter from a previous marriage and she was 19 or 21 and he was in his 50s. There's a huge leap from a 50 year old movie star dating someone in their early 20s who happens to be the daughter of his age-appropriate ex-girlfriend, and being a child molester.
 
2014-02-04 07:46:56 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: I liked Fark's earlier, funny threads.


lol

/love that movie
 
2014-02-04 08:17:03 PM  
I liked his earlier, funnier wives.
 
2014-02-04 08:37:54 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: I liked Fark's earlier, funny threads.


This.
 
2014-02-04 09:02:10 PM  

m00: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I guess after the whole Soon-Yi Previn thing, most reasonable people realized this guy is probably a creep.

Soon-Yi wasn't his daughter in any sense of the word. She was his girlfriend's adopted daughter from a previous marriage and she was 19 or 21 and he was in his 50s. There's a huge leap from a 50 year old movie star dating someone in their early 20s who happens to be the daughter of his age-appropriate ex-girlfriend, and being a child molester.


To be fair, having a long term sexual relationship with a woman and cheating on her with her daughter is pretty damn creepy, even if all are of age.
 
2014-02-04 09:05:27 PM  

kanesays: frepnog: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: And I have seen some grown women(and men) lie their asses off about some horrendously stupid sh*t.
Why would the girl still be lying?  What is there to gain?
Sigh, there is nothing to gain, we've been over this....There is only what Mia has lost. She lost her career & her celebrity, and she and her brood will forever be bitter about that. Feel free to discount this at very turn.
No one really gives much of a shiat about woody these days.  No one is anxiously awaiting the next Woody Allen film.
Nominated for an Oscar for Blue Jasmine in 2014, and won in 2012 for Midnight in Paris.
 No one gives a shiat about Mia.  No one really cares about these kids.  Dylan is not going to get some big dollar payday; it isn't like Kanye beat her up.
Finally, you're starting to get it. Mia and her children have been forgotten, and that is what they are so bitter and vindictive about towards Allen.
Why would she still be lying?
She has one parent left, if she recanted her story, her relationship with her mother would be over. Period.
It reads sincere.  I believe her.
The fact that Mia slept around means nothing.
Nothing that smacks of questionable character that Mia has done seems to be of any consequence to you, IMO.


Like winning an Oscar means any damn thing. As far as things Mia has done.... Sleeping around is shiatty but Hollywood is what it is.
 
2014-02-04 09:10:51 PM  

namegoeshere: m00: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I guess after the whole Soon-Yi Previn thing, most reasonable people realized this guy is probably a creep.

Soon-Yi wasn't his daughter in any sense of the word. She was his girlfriend's adopted daughter from a previous marriage and she was 19 or 21 and he was in his 50s. There's a huge leap from a 50 year old movie star dating someone in their early 20s who happens to be the daughter of his age-appropriate ex-girlfriend, and being a child molester.

To be fair, having a long term sexual relationship with a woman and cheating on her with her daughter is pretty damn creepy, even if all are of age.


Creepy yes but it still doesn't make him a pedophile.

Her story coupled with her brothers, nanny's, and psychiatrist's statements pretty much make her very hard to believe.
 
2014-02-04 10:07:49 PM  
Mia Farrow -- Entitled celebrity princess. Crazier than a shiathouse rat.

Woody Allen -- Neurotic asshole who managed to woo his girlfriend's stepdaughter in the creepiest way imaginable.

fark the both of them. Legally, this story may have lost its legs 20 years ago, but one thing is abundantly clear. These two are weapons grade nutjobs who've been given way too much privilege relative to their contributions to the world.

Dylan is the product of Mia and Woody's own personal 'danse macabre'.
 
2014-02-04 10:08:07 PM  

Buttknuckle: Between Michael Jackson and Woody Allen, Woody seems way more suspect.  However, people were all over MJ and immediately assumed his guilt (and still do).  To me, it seems like MJ was an easy target for accusation, while Woody has demonstrated his sickness by marrying Sung Yi or whatever her name was.


Other way round: if you're a child molester, a serial child molester, you want your victims to stay the same age as you get older, so like Sandusky or Michael Jackson, you have to keep finding new victims.

You don't get into a relationship with hem, marry them and then stay with them for twenty years.
 
2014-02-04 11:18:46 PM  

Arkanaut: Autumn Moone: Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?

Because the divorce had been finalized?


Couples that were never married can divorce?
 
2014-02-05 12:04:44 AM  

frepnog: "What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains."

i don't know what to tell you people defending Woody.  That is a grown-ass woman telling you she was sexually assaulted.

Is it fantasy?  some fake, implanted memory? perhaps, but a grown woman telling you that should hold some weight.


Yes, but that accusation shouldn't act as a substitute for due process.

That's how lives were destroyed by the imaginations of children during the satanic panic in the 80s.
 
2014-02-05 12:10:07 AM  

udhq: frepnog: "What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains."

i don't know what to tell you people defending Woody.  That is a grown-ass woman telling you she was sexually assaulted.

Is it fantasy?  some fake, implanted memory? perhaps, but a grown woman telling you that should hold some weight.

Yes, but that accusation shouldn't act as a substitute for due process.

That's how lives were destroyed by the imaginations of children during the satanic panic in the 80s.



That sounds like a boxer's nickname:   The Count of Monte Fisto,The Master of Disaster, The Satanic Panic...
 
2014-02-05 12:38:43 AM  
All y'all caping for Allen are ridiculous. There's more smoke here than in a Cheech and Chong movie.

Read the VF article, at least for the part where Sinatra sends a guy to meet with Mia. Apparently he never showed her his face, but I picture him looking something like this:

img.fark.net


Too bad Sinatra didn't take a full measure, especially when Allen roughed up his (suspected, but, look at Ronan and tell me that ain't Frank's) little kid in front of the visitation supervisor.

/Nothing suspicious about those full-tit-and-minge pics of young Soon Yi, either. What guy hasn't taken those photos of his girlfriend's kid?

//Not me! But the great thing about threads like this is they give the FBI task forces plenty of new leads, I'm guessing.
 
2014-02-05 12:48:20 AM  

torr5962: He just likes 17yr old pussy like every other guy from  56

10-100yrs old.

FTFY
 
2014-02-05 12:57:39 AM  

abfab: All y'all caping for Allen are ridiculous. There's more smoke here than in a Cheech and Chong movie.

Read the VF article, at least for the part where Sinatra sends a guy to meet with Mia. Apparently he never showed her his face, but I picture him looking something like this:

[img.fark.net image 194x260]


Too bad Sinatra didn't take a full measure, especially when Allen roughed up his (suspected, but, look at Ronan and tell me that ain't Frank's) little kid in front of the visitation supervisor.

/Nothing suspicious about those full-tit-and-minge pics of young Soon Yi, either. What guy hasn't taken those photos of his girlfriend's kid?

//Not me! But the great thing about threads like this is they give the FBI task forces plenty of new leads, I'm guessing.


I'm with ya.  I got DESTROYED in the last thread about this because I dared bring up some things that bothered me about an article that was written by a close friend of Allen defending him.

And why are so many people 100 percent sure about the relationship between Soon Yi and Allen when she was a child?  "Allen didn't raise her!!!!!"  "He only saw her 3 times."  If anything, that may indicate that Mia might have been uncomfortable with Allen being around Soon Yi and kept her away from him.

I just get a bit creeped out when so many go all in with a potential pedo.  I don't know the truth, but in cases of pedophilia, I would NEVER side with the accused unless he was my family or VERY close to me.  I find it odd that not one person here has stuck up for the victim the way they have stuck up for Allen with paragraphs and links to info.
 
2014-02-05 04:49:26 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Buttknuckle: Between Michael Jackson and Woody Allen, Woody seems way more suspect.  However, people were all over MJ and immediately assumed his guilt (and still do).  To me, it seems like MJ was an easy target for accusation, while Woody has demonstrated his sickness by marrying Sung Yi or whatever her name was.

Other way round: if you're a child molester, a serial child molester, you want your victims to stay the same age as you get older, so like Sandusky or Michael Jackson, you have to keep finding new victims.

You don't get into a relationship with hem, marry them and then stay with them for twenty years.


You do if you've moved on to the kids you've adopted.

I have no idea what he's up to or not, but staying married to someone doesn't mean another person stops or is not molesting. Molesters absolutely get married and sometimes stay married for a long time. Sometimes the spouses are unwitting, accidentally giving them access to their children. Sometimes their spouses help cover for them.

If I had no idea who he was, and had never heard any accusations against him, the pics of him with his adopted daughters would still creep me the fark out and I would never leave him alone with kids. He has a definite vibe about him and body language with children that I've seen in other molesters (who went on to be convicted and go to prison).
 
2014-02-05 10:43:27 AM  

broktune: And why are so many people 100 percent sure about the relationship between Soon Yi and Allen when she was a child?  "Allen didn't raise her!!!!!"  "He only saw her 3 times."  If anything, that may indicate that Mia might have been uncomfortable with Allen being around Soon Yi and kept her away from him.


If that were the case, why would she go on to adopt a daughter with Allen?   If she had any reason to suspect Allen was in any way a threat to her other children (who lived with their father Andre Previn and whom Allen would have extremely limited access) then it makes no sense for her to be his partner in adopting more children who would be around him constantly.

It also makes no sense, given the fact (according to Mia herself) that when Soon Yi turned 19 or so, that she encouraged Allen to get to know her better and to spend time with her.
 
2014-02-05 11:04:18 AM  

lawboy87: If she had any reason to suspect Allen was in any way a threat to her other children (who lived with their father Andre Previn and whom Allen would have extremely limited access) then it makes no sense for her to be his partner in adopting more children who would be around him constantly.


MIA DON'T MAKE GOOD CHOICES.
 
2014-02-05 11:18:47 AM  

mjbok: Fano: Now, you can choose to believe a Penthouse Letter if you like, but it sounds like there are substantial problems with the story.

That would be a really boring Penthouse letter.

Dr.Zom: You're kidding right? Midnight in Paris was the highest grossing Allen movie ever. Hell, his costs are so low I'm not sure he's ever lost money on a film.

His movies make a lot overseas, but not much in the US.


The fact that somebody would call what she wrote "a penthouse letter" is a bold statement about their sexual preferences.
 
2014-02-05 11:30:57 AM  

theflatline: torr5962: This dude married the step-daughter that he helped raise.....and got away with it. No one bats an eyelash that "Manhattan" is pretty much a story about what he'd like to do hiding behind fiction. Almost everything he's ever played in show a strange, borderline perverse lecherousness that becomes more creepy when one remembers that he married the step-daughter that he helped raise.

Now he's accused of child molestation and he the Hollywood elite defend him.

It reminds me of the Chris Rock-Michael Jackson defense:  "We love Mike so much we let the first kid go."


Ultimately I'm torn because I love many of his movies. But the double-standard we have for talented people is sickening.

He did not help raise her.  Was never his stepdaughter, and even Mia said he only saw her about three times, until she was 19 and Mia made her go to basketball games with Woody.

Those are the facts.


Perfectly normal perfectly healthy.

I'm sure any of us here would be happy to invite him over to meet our daugthers.  "he only met that teenage daughter of his long term girlfriend whom he happened to have a son with a few times before he decided he wanted to bang her" Oh well in that case, class act all the way.

This guy is a scumbag with obvious issues around personal/sexual relationships. He was not convicted of this molestation, but those cases are always very hard to prove (or disprove), especially against wealthy people/celebrities. The fact that this girl still insists she was molested, and in light of his known past it's not unreasonable to think she might be telling the truth.
 
2014-02-05 11:31:33 AM  
brap:  That said, this was the most interesting article that I've read on the topic.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-all eg ations-not-so-fast.html


Interesting and enlightening, indeed. I've never claimed to know whether or not Woody was guilty of inappropriate behavior with a kid, but this article makes it seem incredibly unlikely he did anything of the sort. 

That won't of course, stop the general public about making statements of things they know nothing about.
 
2014-02-05 12:37:58 PM  

Fano: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: torr5962: married the step-daughter that he helped raise

No. And you're pretty much missing the point of that relationship in "Manhattan." Go ahead and have an opinion, believe he's guilty but do some better research before you convict a man of penetrating a seven year old girl.

The actual evidence merits comment but why do some many have completely fabricate and misrepresent things to make it worse? Should someone post the picture of an asian girl on his lap at a game claiming it's soon yi, fist pump then drop the mic?

The younger girl in Manhattan was not a child.


Hemingway was 16 when she played in Manhattan.
 
2014-02-05 12:52:26 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Buttknuckle: Between Michael Jackson and Woody Allen, Woody seems way more suspect.  However, people were all over MJ and immediately assumed his guilt (and still do).  To me, it seems like MJ was an easy target for accusation, while Woody has demonstrated his sickness by marrying Sung Yi or whatever her name was.

Other way round: if you're a child molester, a serial child molester, you want your victims to stay the same age as you get older, so like Sandusky or Michael Jackson, you have to keep finding new victims.

You don't get into a relationship with hem, marry them and then stay with them for twenty years.


Nah, you just adopt two little girls.
 
2014-02-05 12:55:26 PM  

nocturnal001: The fact that this girl still insists she was molested, and in light of his known past it's not unreasonable to think she might be telling the truth.


What "known past"?   The fact that he went for a 19/20 yr old?   That is a far cry from a "known past" of going for a 7 yr old.

Now, if you would have said this: "The fact that this girl still insists she was molested, now even as an adult, it's not unreasonable to think she might be telling the truth."

I have no problem with people believing Dylan, as a child or as an adult, and it's certainly not an unreasonable thing to do.  What is unreasonable, however, is to equate an accusation with being the truth.  Sometimes they're one and the same and sometimes they're not.

Yes, what Allen did with Soon Yi was inappropriate and more than a bit "scuzzy" but it is in no way comparable to sexually abusing a 7 yr old.  But if screwing a 19/20 yr old was the same as screwing a 7 yr old, then half the damned country would be in jail.

As for the whole:  "He got away with it because he was a celebrity/wealthy" crowd, doesn't that point get balanced out by the fact that Mia Farrow is/was as much a celebrity and has as much wealth as Allen? Do you really think they would favor one side or another in a case where likely every action they take is going to be scrutinized and either side could launch of pack of lawyers on them at any time?

Farrow's father John was an Oscar winning screenwriter and director, her mother (stage name Maureen Sullivan) had a 6 decade long career as an actress, perhaps best known as "Jane" in the Tarzan series. Farrow was married to the biggest star of his day in Frank Sinatra, and also been married to 4 time Oscar Wiinner and noted composer Andre Previn.  It wasn't like she was out of friends who had as much pull and weight as Allen ever thought about having.
 
2014-02-05 12:59:42 PM  

zabadu: Hemingway was 16 when she played in Manhattan.


And in the book Lolita, the main character was a girl of the age of 12.

Do we all assume that Nabokov was going around screwing 12 yr olds?
 
2014-02-05 06:08:46 PM  

GibbyTheMole: brap:  That said, this was the most interesting article that I've read on the topic.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-all eg ations-not-so-fast.html

Interesting and enlightening, indeed. I've never claimed to know whether or not Woody was guilty of inappropriate behavior with a kid, but this article makes it seem incredibly unlikely he did anything of the sort.

That won't of course, stop the general public about making statements of things they know nothing about.


Speaking of, did you know that Bob Weide (the author of the Daily Beast article) is not only one of Allen's homies, but also huge fan who did a documentary on him? So yeah, that ludicrously biased article proves exactly jack farking shiat, and frankly makes Allen look desperate.


img.fark.net
 
2014-02-05 06:54:17 PM  

lawboy87: nocturnal001: The fact that this girl still insists she was molested, and in light of his known past it's not unreasonable to think she might be telling the truth.

What "known past"?   The fact that he went for a 19/20 yr old?   That is a far cry from a "known past" of going for a 7 yr old.


lawboy87: nocturnal001: The fact that this girl still insists she was molested, and in light of his known past it's not unreasonable to think she might be telling the truth.

What "known past"?   The fact that he went for a 19/20 yr old?   That is a far cry from a "known past" of going for a 7 yr old.

Now, if you would have said this: "The fact that this girl still insists she was molested, now even as an adult, it's not unreasonable to think she might be telling the truth."

I have no problem with people believing Dylan, as a child or as an adult, and it's certainly not an unreasonable thing to do.  What is unreasonable, however, is to equate an accusation with being the truth.  Sometimes they're one and the same and sometimes they're not.

Yes, what Allen did with Soon Yi was inappropriate and more than a bit "scuzzy" but it is in no way comparable to sexually abusing a 7 yr old.  But if screwing a 19/20 yr old was the same as screwing a 7 yr old, then half the damned country would be in jail.

As for the whole:  "He got away with it because he was a celebrity/wealthy" crowd, doesn't that point get balanced out by the fact that Mia Farrow is/was as much a celebrity and has as much wealth as Allen? Do you really think they would favor one side or another in a case where likely every action they take is going to be scrutinized and either side could launch of pack of lawyers on them at any time?

Farrow's father John was an Oscar winning screenwriter and director, her mother (stage name Maureen Sullivan) had a 6 decade long career as an actress, perhaps best known as "Jane" in the Tarzan series. Farrow was married to the biggest star of his day in Frank Sinatra, and also been married to 4 time Oscar Wiinner and noted composer Andre Previn.  It wasn't like she was out of friends who had as much pull and weight as Allen ever thought about having.



Simplifying what he did as "going for a 19 year old" is asinine. Let's ignore the fact that dating somebody so much your junior is in and of itself scuzzy behavior. He went after a girl that he met when she was not legal, and who was the adopted daughter of his long time GF and the sister of his son who he had with that GF.

That behavior screams "I have issues". Just because so many people here are displacing their own desires to bang an 18 year old onto him doesn't mean he isn't a nut job. He has issues. Boundary issues at the very least. If he wasn't famous everybody here would be making West Virginia jokes.

It wasn't Farrow vs Allen, it was a young child whose advocate was the regular old court system.
 
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