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(Huffington Post)   Baba Wawa defends Woody Allen. Ya know, I was jus' sittin' here on Fark when this story came up and aw jeez, there I go and drop my pencil   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 141
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2014-02-04 10:39:13 AM  
It is incredibly tough to translate Woody Allen impressions into text apparently
 
2014-02-04 10:46:14 AM  
It's always something.
If it isn't one thing, it's another.
 
2014-02-04 10:49:16 AM  

somedude210: It is incredibly tough to translate Woody Allen impressions into text apparently


It's the whine.  It's very difficult to translate that sniveling, self-absorbed nasal whine into text.
 
2014-02-04 11:05:39 AM  
"If you wewe a chiwald mowester, what kind would you be?"
 
2014-02-04 11:06:30 AM  

Diogenes: "If you wewe a chiwald mowester, what kind would you be?"


Damn.  Missed the trailing "r."
 
2014-02-04 11:09:23 AM  

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2014-02-04 11:36:37 AM  
Oh shut the fark up lady.
 
2014-02-04 12:13:52 PM  
"I have rarely seen a father as sensitive and as loving and as caring as Woody is," she said.

Wrong kind of lovin' stupid lady.
 
2014-02-04 12:14:36 PM  
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2014-02-04 12:17:59 PM  
Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?
 
2014-02-04 12:18:30 PM  
Baba Yaga?
 
2014-02-04 12:19:40 PM  

minoridiot: "I have rarely seen a father as sensitive and as loving and as caring as Woody is," she said.

Wrong kind of lovin' stupid lady.


Go through any training on sexual abuse prevention and this would certainly be the last thing someone would list as "traits uncommon to pedophiles."  Jerry Sandusky adopted his kids, too, and he was big-hearted and caring.  These are not logical refutations.
 
2014-02-04 12:24:22 PM  
Barbara Walters supports Woody only because he isn't a lesbian.

/Rosie boosted Babs' ratings 20 percent
/Babs talks mean about her still
/I'd fark Rosie and then a dead dog before I'd fark Babs.
/In that order.
 
2014-02-04 12:26:07 PM  

Autumn Moone: Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?


I guess after the whole Soon-Yi Previn thing, most reasonable people realized this guy is probably a creep.
 
2014-02-04 12:26:50 PM  

Autumn Moone: Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?


Is there a wrong time to expose someone you believe molested you?

"The guy has a lot on his plate, I should wait until his calender clears"
 
2014-02-04 12:33:06 PM  
So what is Baba Wawa's qualifications as a child rape expert? I mean has the ever raped as a child? Or raped a child? Or raped By a child? Inquiring minds want to know, also I said rape like 5 times.
 
2014-02-04 12:35:48 PM  
I enjoyed Bananas, so it is unlikely Woody Allen is a child molester.
 
2014-02-04 12:36:03 PM  
What is it about this show that serves as the primary clearinghouse for child molesters?  First Whoopi's "RAPE RAPE" incoherent ranting, and now Baba covering for the other famous child rapist?

And "cleared", really?  The prosecutor at that time indicated he was guilty as sin, to the point that Allen complained about it.
 
2014-02-04 12:36:57 PM  
Between Michael Jackson and Woody Allen, Woody seems way more suspect.  However, people were all over MJ and immediately assumed his guilt (and still do).  To me, it seems like MJ was an easy target for accusation, while Woody has demonstrated his sickness by marrying Sung Yi or whatever her name was.
 
2014-02-04 12:37:23 PM  

Far Cough: What is it about this show that serves as the primary clearinghouse for child molesters?  First Whoopi's "RAPE RAPE" incoherent ranting, and now Baba covering for the other famous child rapist?

And "cleared", really?  The prosecutor at that time indicated he was guilty as sin, to the point that Allen complained about it.


Replace that last "rapist" with "molester".  Too much rape.
 
2014-02-04 12:39:50 PM  

Far Cough: What is it about this show that serves as the primary clearinghouse for child molesters?  First Whoopi's "RAPE RAPE" incoherent ranting, and now Baba covering for the other famous child rapist?

And "cleared", really?  The prosecutor at that time indicated he was guilty as sin, to the point that Allen complained about it.


Well, every prosecutor thinks defendants are guilty as sin, and then lots of them put them away.
 
2014-02-04 12:45:54 PM  

Buttknuckle: Between Michael Jackson and Woody Allen, Woody seems way more suspect.  However, people were all over MJ and immediately assumed his guilt (and still do).  To me, it seems like MJ was an easy target for accusation, while Woody has demonstrated his sickness by marrying Sung Yi or whatever her name was.


Robert Blake and O.J. also were easy targets. Let's hope they and Jackson get their own private wing in heaven. Michael's probably turning it into a kiddie fun house as we speak.
 
2014-02-04 12:46:41 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Autumn Moone: Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?

Is there a wrong time to expose someone you believe molested you?

"The guy has a lot on his plate, I should wait until his calender clears"


One of Mia farrow son has come out and said that there was a lot of brainwashing going with Mia. He's actually reconciled with woody and his sister/mother in law.

And the doctors who examined the girl to found absolutely no evidence of abuse. The prosecutor who claimed he was still suspicious if Woody Allen, even though he was cleared, was punished for misleading the press.

And the thing that started it all, the tape, had a lot if start stops type edits. And the girl story kept changing.

And the main kicker: woody and Mia weren't even married. They never lived together. Woody pretty much ignored the girl- who saw him as her moms boyfriend. (She was adopted by Previn and Farrow.) it was Mia who encouraged woody to spend more time with her...at age 19 or 20.
 
2014-02-04 12:47:27 PM  
From the lead investigator (from 1993):-

The doctor suggested a connection between Miss Farrow's outrage over Mr. Allen's affair with her adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Farrow Previn, and the accusation made by Dylan, who he said was unusually protective of her mother. "It's quite possible -- as a matter of fact, we think it's medically probable -- that she stuck to that story over time because of the intense relationship she had with her mother," he said.
Even before the claim of abuse was made last August, he said, "The view of Mr. Allen as an evil and awful and terrible man permeated the household. The view that he had molested Soon-Yi and was a potential molester of Dylan permeated the household."
Dr. Leventhal said it was "very striking" that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with "one, her father's relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother," who had lost a career in Mr. Allen's films.


It's worth a read of the whole thing for anyone who is sure Woody did it, because Dylan Farrow spoke out.
 
2014-02-04 12:48:21 PM  

Far Cough: What is it about this show that serves as the primary clearinghouse for child molesters?  First Whoopi's "RAPE RAPE" incoherent ranting, and now Baba covering for the other famous child rapist?

And "cleared", really?  The prosecutor at that time indicated he was guilty as sin, to the point that Allen complained about it.


And that prosecutor got punished, especially when there was no evidence.
 
2014-02-04 12:49:48 PM  
If Jerry Sandusky was a director instead of a football coach, the View would be defending him as well.
 
2014-02-04 12:52:19 PM  

Cletus C.: I enjoyed Bananas, so it is unlikely Woody Allen is a child molester.


I didn't like "Sleeper," so he definitely sodomized Dylan Farrow with a fire extinguisher.
 
2014-02-04 12:58:47 PM  
Not only concerning this issue but her life in general, anytime I have heard Barbara Walters speak (being forced to watch the View and other things) she is a farking idiot.
 
2014-02-04 12:59:05 PM  

Autumn Moone: Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?


Because the divorce had been finalized?
 
2014-02-04 12:59:35 PM  
"I have rarely seen a father as sensitive and as loving and as caring as Woody is," she said.

In my line of work, I have to deal with child sex abuse accusations.  Barbara's above description of Woody could be used to describe every one of the chi-mo's I have to deal with, especially the most prolific ones.  Not saying this means that Woody is a chi-mo, just saying that Barbara's-- or anyone's-- anecdotal evidence of Woody being a "good guy" means absolutely nothing.
 
2014-02-04 01:02:08 PM  

farkeruk: From the lead investigator (from 1993):-

The doctor suggested a connection between Miss Farrow's outrage over Mr. Allen's affair with her adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Farrow Previn, and the accusation made by Dylan, who he said was unusually protective of her mother. "It's quite possible -- as a matter of fact, we think it's medically probable -- that she stuck to that story over time because of the intense relationship she had with her mother," he said.
Even before the claim of abuse was made last August, he said, "The view of Mr. Allen as an evil and awful and terrible man permeated the household. The view that he had molested Soon-Yi and was a potential molester of Dylan permeated the household."
Dr. Leventhal said it was "very striking" that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with "one, her father's relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother," who had lost a career in Mr. Allen's films.

It's worth a read of the whole thing for anyone who is sure Woody did it, because Dylan Farrow spoke out.


Thanks, I just read it, although the link to the actual transcript seems to be missing?  (Just as well, I can't take too much of this.)

Dr. Leventhal said: "We had two hypotheses: one, that these were statements that were made by an emotionally disturbed child and then became fixed in her mind. And the other hypothesis was that she was coached or influenced by her mother. We did not come to a firm conclusion. We think that it was probably a combination."
The doctor acknowledged that "We don't have firm evidence that Miss Farrow coached or directed Dylan to say this."


They forgot the 3rd hypothesis, of course, which is that she told the truth but didn't accurately recount every last detail in court reporter fashion.  Apparently, with this suspicion growing in his mind (to the point he discarded her story), he didn't even ASK the little girl if she had been coached or if she were making it up?
 
2014-02-04 01:10:39 PM  

Autumn Moone: Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?


All I have to say is if Woody goes to prison it should be for making Vicky Christina Barcelona.
 
2014-02-04 01:14:48 PM  

Autumn Moone: Why do we believe the person who police have already said was coached by the mother?  And vilify the guy who police cleared, what 20 years ago - Who happens to have a movie up for Oscar consideration?


Because he made a film in 1977 that was declared a better film than the one I feel an incessant to talk about every f**king day?
 
2014-02-04 01:18:04 PM  
Ugh, I finally went and read the Dylan letter in the NY Times.  The celebrity callouts were only a small part of it.  How can anyone read that and NOT believe that she is sincere?

When the most compelling counterargument is "but wow her mother acts crazy" there is something wrong going on.  She's a 28 year old woman who has lived with this outrage against her since childhood.

So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.

Is your theory really that she is so tied to her mother that she prefers believing she was sexually molested to acknowledging that her mother is nuts?  Everybody's mother is nuts.  How can you so blithely discount her pain and her account?  Imagine for a moment that her letter is 100% true -- just imagine it.  Isn't it a wonder she is still functioning?

(FYI I may not stick around in this thread as the subject sickens me.)
 
2014-02-04 01:23:39 PM  
The most interesting thing I learned about this whole debacle was that Mia wanted to create a master race of babies from famous people. Well, that and the character witness for Roman Polanski thing.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ae-l ga5d6P0C&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=mr. + s+sinatra+mia+picasso+baby&source=bl&o ts=iPmAnc8HYK&sig=k0Q0JbtP34HKso A6583Thc_i_o8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=US7xUouDB- LiyAH_gIHwCA&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBg
 
2014-02-04 01:25:28 PM  

Cletus C.: I enjoyed Bananas, so it is unlikely Woody Allen is a child molester.


I laughed at this because I have always felt there might be some sort of wishful thinking due to my reverence for Woody Allen's writing and comedy.

That said, this was the most interesting article that I've read on the topic.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-all eg ations-not-so-fast.html
 
2014-02-04 01:30:06 PM  

stay_classy_pdx: "I have rarely seen a father as sensitive and as loving and as caring as Woody is," she said.

In my line of work, I have to deal with child sex abuse accusations.  Barbara's above description of Woody could be used to describe every one of the chi-mo's I have to deal with, especially the most prolific ones.  Not saying this means that Woody is a chi-mo, just saying that Barbara's-- or anyone's-- anecdotal evidence of Woody being a "good guy" means absolutely nothing.


Genuinely curious, what are your thoughts on false allegations? Never happens? sometimes happens?
 
2014-02-04 01:30:30 PM  
Far Cough:

(FYI I may not stick around in this thread as the subject sickens me.)

Remember all of those Penn State football fans who protested the Joe Paterno statue being taken down? People will go to any lengths to defend their hobbies when something goes wrong.

Woody Allen will never go to prison. His fans will continue to insult his former stepdaughter in pursuit of continuing to enjoy his movies. Famous people will continue to defend him in hopes of being cast in his next film. Meanwhile his name will forever carry the stain of the accusations. That's all.
 
2014-02-04 01:34:33 PM  

Darth Macho: Far Cough:

(FYI I may not stick around in this thread as the subject sickens me.)

Remember all of those Penn State football fans who protested the Joe Paterno statue being taken down? People will go to any lengths to defend their hobbies when something goes wrong.

Woody Allen will never go to prison. His fans will continue to insult his former stepdaughter in pursuit of continuing to enjoy his movies. Famous people will continue to defend him in hopes of being cast in his next film.Meanwhile his name will forever carry the stain of the accusations. That's all.



Why?

His current movies bomb.
 
2014-02-04 01:35:37 PM  
Baba Yaga?

static.giantbomb.com
 
2014-02-04 01:37:57 PM  

Far Cough: They forgot the 3rd hypothesis, of course, which is that she told the truth but didn't accurately recount every last detail in court reporter fashion.  Apparently, with this suspicion growing in his mind (to the point he discarded her story), he didn't even ASK the little girl if she had been coached or if she were making it up?


It's not about "accurately recounting in court reporter fashion". Between a number of interviews in a short period of time, people shouldn't be "yes he did that" then "no he didn't" then "yes he did" about major facts. It's not how people who are telling the truth behave. It's a sign of someone who is lying or coached because they make mistakes in retelling the story.
 
2014-02-04 01:38:36 PM  

Marshal805: Darth Macho: Far Cough:

(FYI I may not stick around in this thread as the subject sickens me.)

Remember all of those Penn State football fans who protested the Joe Paterno statue being taken down? People will go to any lengths to defend their hobbies when something goes wrong.

Woody Allen will never go to prison. His fans will continue to insult his former stepdaughter in pursuit of continuing to enjoy his movies. Famous people will continue to defend him in hopes of being cast in his next film.Meanwhile his name will forever carry the stain of the accusations. That's all.


Why?

His current movies bomb.


You're kidding right? Midnight in Paris was the highest grossing Allen movie ever. Hell, his costs are so low I'm not sure he's ever lost money on a film.
 
2014-02-04 01:41:36 PM  

Darth Macho: Far Cough:

(FYI I may not stick around in this thread as the subject sickens me.)


Remember all of those Penn State football fans who protested the Joe Paterno statue being taken down? People will go to any lengths to defend their hobbies when something goes wrong.


Woody Allen will never go to prison. His fans will continue to insult his former stepdaughter in pursuit of continuing to enjoy his movies. Famous people will continue to defend him in hopes of being cast in his next film. Meanwhile his name will forever carry the stain of the accusations. That's all.


Prison? You know why the case was dismissed? On the witness stand, Mia Farrow was about the doctor's findings: "There was no evidence of injury to the anal or vaginal area, is that correct?" Farrow answered, "Yes."


So, who's more likely to be telling the truth?


Next, Woody Allen was asked to take and passed a lie-detector test. Mia Farrow will not take one. You know, the one who lost her career.


So, who's telling the truth?

 
2014-02-04 01:42:05 PM  

Far Cough: Ugh, I finally went and read the Dylan letter in the NY Times.  The celebrity callouts were only a small part of it.  How can anyone read that and NOT believe that she is sincere?

When the most compelling counterargument is "but wow her mother acts crazy" there is something wrong going on.  She's a 28 year old woman who has lived with this outrage against her since childhood.

So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.

Is your theory really that she is so tied to her mother that she prefers believing she was sexually molested to acknowledging that her mother is nuts?  Everybody's mother is nuts.  How can you so blithely discount her pain and her account?  Imagine for a moment that her letter is 100% true -- just imagine it.  Isn't it a wonder she is still functioning?

(FYI I may not stick around in this thread as the subject sickens me.)


From the letter: "What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains.
For as long as I could remember, my father had been doing things to me that I didn't like. I didn't like how often he would take me away from my mom, siblings and friends to be alone with him. I didn't like it when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. I didn't like it when I had to get in bed with him under the sheets when he was in his underwear. I didn't like it when he would place his head in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out. I would hide under beds or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters, but he always found me. These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. But what he did to me in the attic felt different. I couldn't keep the secret anymore. "

Now, you can choose to believe a Penthouse Letter if you like, but it sounds like there are substantial problems with the story.
 
2014-02-04 01:43:55 PM  

farkeruk: Far Cough: They forgot the 3rd hypothesis, of course, which is that she told the truth but didn't accurately recount every last detail in court reporter fashion.  Apparently, with this suspicion growing in his mind (to the point he discarded her story), he didn't even ASK the little girl if she had been coached or if she were making it up?

It's not about "accurately recounting in court reporter fashion". Between a number of interviews in a short period of time, people shouldn't be "yes he did that" then "no he didn't" then "yes he did" about major facts. It's not how people who are telling the truth behave. It's a sign of someone who is lying or coached because they make mistakes in retelling the story.


She

was

seven.

Is she still making mistakes and being coached?  Or is she, just maybe, telling the truth.  Chillingly, only Allen's new kids may be able to corroborate.
 
2014-02-04 01:46:06 PM  

Far Cough: farkeruk: Far Cough: They forgot the 3rd hypothesis, of course, which is that she told the truth but didn't accurately recount every last detail in court reporter fashion.  Apparently, with this suspicion growing in his mind (to the point he discarded her story), he didn't even ASK the little girl if she had been coached or if she were making it up?

It's not about "accurately recounting in court reporter fashion". Between a number of interviews in a short period of time, people shouldn't be "yes he did that" then "no he didn't" then "yes he did" about major facts. It's not how people who are telling the truth behave. It's a sign of someone who is lying or coached because they make mistakes in retelling the story.

She

was

seven.

Is she still making mistakes and being coached?  Or is she, just maybe, telling the truth.  Chillingly, only Allen's new kids may be able to corroborate.


Woody Allen: Kiddy Fiddler or Pederast? Next up, on Hard Talk.
 
2014-02-04 01:49:28 PM  

Fano: I would hide under beds or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters, but he always found me. These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. But what he did to me in the attic felt different. I couldn't keep the secret anymore. "

Now, you can choose to believe a Penthouse Letter if you like, but it sounds like there are substantial problems with the story.


I miss your point.  Why is that sentence highlighted?  This is the first she's ever written publicly about it, and the only thing that surprises me about the letter is its brevity.
 
2014-02-04 01:55:25 PM  

Fano: Now, you can choose to believe a Penthouse Letter if you like, but it sounds like there are substantial problems with the story.


That would be a really boring Penthouse letter.

Dr.Zom: You're kidding right? Midnight in Paris was the highest grossing Allen movie ever. Hell, his costs are so low I'm not sure he's ever lost money on a film.


His movies make a lot overseas, but not much in the US.
 
2014-02-04 02:00:24 PM  

Far Cough: How can you so blithely discount her pain and her account?


Not blithely, but one account from a particularly iffy situation?

His entire body of work, not really flattering to himself so perhaps reasonably honest, shows a fairly lecherous attraction to grown women. And I wouldn't call a taller-than-Allen Hemingway a little girl, at least not for pedophilic purposes.

I think in the last thread on this someone posted something about the psychological high people get from being "right." I think I was on that bandwagon with MJ, not eager to jump on it now.

Not saying Allen's innocent, but I haven't seen enough to convict him in my mind of such a horrible crime.
 
2014-02-04 02:01:12 PM  

Fano: Now, you can choose to believe a Penthouse Letter if you like, but it sounds like there are substantial problems with the story


There are, but not from that letter.

That isn't to say I would bet he did it, but the guy, at the very least, is a creep.
 
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