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2014-02-04 10:25:36 AM
In an unprecedented season, Da Bears are going to go 16-0 and shut out every team and win by an average margin of 124 pts and be declared Super Bowl champions of every year. Ever.

/go Giants.
 
2014-02-04 10:33:36 AM
Mangoose:
/go Giants.

If they get an Offensive line that can actually block something, then maybe they'll be a decent team.
 
2014-02-04 10:39:39 AM

ManateeGag: Mangoose:
/go Giants.

If they get an Offensive line that can actually block something, then maybe they'll be a decent team.


Or if all of the defensive units have to play with their shoes tied to the guy's next to them. Either one is as likely as the other.
 
2014-02-04 10:45:24 AM
I hope the Stillers can get back to the playoffs this year.  Missing them is always an embarrassment, even if we were able to salvage an 8-8 season.
 
2014-02-04 11:06:58 AM
Asinine tag?  Come on, subs, everyone's still got football on their minds.  It's not so awful to just cap off one season by looking ahead...

[32 page slideshow]

Aw f*ck, Asinine tag well deserved.
 
2014-02-04 11:49:05 AM
WHAR GRAF WHAR?!?!?!?!?
 
2014-02-04 12:00:45 PM
Go Hawks.
 
2014-02-04 12:02:35 PM
Detroit #20?
hahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2014-02-04 12:02:42 PM
WHAR JAKE PREDICTIONS?!!?!?!?!?!
 
2014-02-04 12:05:44 PM
Gawd that website is made for people with ADHD
 
2014-02-04 12:09:50 PM

ztrom: WHAR JAKE PREDICTIONS?!!?!?!?!?!


Cutler will get 1.
Romo will get 1.
Rivers will get 1.
Eli Manning will get 2.
Matt Stafford will get 11.
 
2014-02-04 12:16:37 PM
How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?
 
2014-02-04 12:17:26 PM

Lando Lincoln: ztrom: WHAR JAKE PREDICTIONS?!!?!?!?!?!

Cutler will get 1.
Romo will get 1.
Rivers will get 1.
Eli Manning will get 2.
Matt Stafford will get 11.


Who will get the other one? Yeah, each team only gets 16 games but there's 17 weeks in a season.
 
2014-02-04 12:18:19 PM

dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?


Because only one team gets to the SB from the NFC and it'll likely be Seattle until Russell gets a new contract which means they can't spend as much on defense.
 
2014-02-04 12:18:44 PM

IAmRight: Lando Lincoln: ztrom: WHAR JAKE PREDICTIONS?!!?!?!?!?!

Cutler will get 1.
Romo will get 1.
Rivers will get 1.
Eli Manning will get 2.
Matt Stafford will get 11.

Who will get the other one? Yeah, each team only gets 16 games but there's 17 weeks in a season.


As a long-time Bills fan, gotta say whoever replaces Manuel after Manuel blows out his knee again.
 
2014-02-04 12:24:50 PM

IAmRight: Lando Lincoln: ztrom: WHAR JAKE PREDICTIONS?!!?!?!?!?!

Cutler will get 1.
Romo will get 1.
Rivers will get 1.
Eli Manning will get 2.
Matt Stafford will get 11.

Who will get the other one? Yeah, each team only gets 16 games but there's 17 weeks in a season.


Oops. Forgot. Whomever the QB is for the Vikings on week eight will get one.
 
2014-02-04 12:27:34 PM
I'm not clicking through all of those, but this is what sportsbook.ag has as the lines for 2015-


Arizona Cardinals
30/1
Atlanta Falcons
30/1
Baltimore Ravens
40/1
Buffalo Bills
70/1
Carolina Panthers
25/1
Chicago Bears
30/1
Cincinnati Bengals
25/1
Cleveland Browns
75/1
Dallas Cowboys
40/1
Denver Broncos
7/1
Detroit Lions
40/1
Green Bay Packers
15/1
Houston Texans
40/1
Indianapolis Colts
25/1
Jacksonville Jaguars
200/1
Kansas City Chiefs
30/1
Miami Dolphins
50/1
Minnesota Vikings
100/1
New England Patriots
15/2
New Orleans Saints
20/1
New York Giants
40/1
New York Jets
60/1
Oakland Raiders
200/1
Philadelphia Eagles
30/1
Pittsburgh Steelers
40/1
San Diego Chargers
40/1
San Francisco 49ers
7/1
Seattle Seahawks
9/2
St Louis Rams
40/1
Tampa Bay Buccanneers
60/1
Tennessee Titans
60/1
Washington Redskins
40/1
 
2014-02-04 12:27:36 PM
Vagas has the Cleveland Browns as 1 in 175 long shot.  I think this is being kind to their new coach.
 
2014-02-04 12:28:47 PM
Thank God, the Eagles won't be spending the first quarter of the season engaged in the Michael Vick Experience.  If only Chip or his defensive coordinator discover what the secondary does and drafts accordingly, it might be a banner (not Joe) year for the Eagles.
 
2014-02-04 12:28:55 PM

Mangoose: In an unprecedented season, Da Bears are going to go 16-0 and shut out every team and win by an average margin of 124 pts and be declared Super Bowl champions of every year. Ever.

/go Giants.


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2014-02-04 12:28:58 PM
Don't they still have to do the draft and make trades and stuff?
 
2014-02-04 12:38:39 PM

born_yesterday: Don't they still have to do the draft and make trades and stuff?


I hardly think things like who is actually going to be on the team next year would affect the power rankings.

Anyway, 2014 is old news, I want see the power rankings for 2015. They are sure to be just as accurate as these.
 
2014-02-04 12:39:42 PM

born_yesterday: Don't they still have to do the draft and make trades and stuff?


Oh. Yeah. Whoops.
 
2014-02-04 12:42:38 PM

dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?


For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.
 
2014-02-04 12:43:12 PM
I see the media is sticking with their eternal misplaced optimism about the Texans
 
2014-02-04 12:49:01 PM
Go Bills!

/sigh
 
2014-02-04 12:50:01 PM

ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.


I think this is a good prediction, but it also relies on how each team deals with the cap once their stars get paid
 
2014-02-04 12:52:54 PM

Summoner101: ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.

I think this is a good prediction, but it also relies on how each team deals with the cap once their stars get paid


The biggest issue for the 9ers is age.  They are old and getting older.  They may do well in the draft and FA and keep rolling but they are going to have salary and age related issues to deal with.
 
2014-02-04 12:53:19 PM

born_yesterday: Don't they still have to do the draft and make trades and stuff?


can the draft really have THAT big of an effect on shifting the balance of power?  sure i can buy that it can push a team that's close over the top, but isn't the whole thing weighted to give the crap teams the top picks?
 
2014-02-04 12:54:44 PM

ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.


Totally. Unrestricted free agency? What's that? The NFL is all about dynasties, that's why the same teams are good every year and don't win the division one year and finish last the next.
 
2014-02-04 12:55:20 PM

Summoner101: ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.

I think this is a good prediction, but it also relies on how each team deals with the cap once their stars get paid


SF has a little bit of an age issue too. They need to find adequate replacements for Justin Smith, Frank Gore and Patrick Willis and if Bowman's injury ends up taking 2 years to come all the way back from, who knows? A lot of Bowman's game is predicated on how quickly he moves (see the ATL pick 6, for example). If his knee isn't back for another year or two, you could suddenly start seeing that defense show cracks.
 
2014-02-04 12:57:00 PM

buttery_shame_cave: born_yesterday: Don't they still have to do the draft and make trades and stuff?

can the draft really have THAT big of an effect on shifting the balance of power?  sure i can buy that it can push a team that's close over the top, but isn't the whole thing weighted to give the crap teams the top picks?


Look at the drafts Seattle had 2010-2012. Especially the 2012 draft had a huge impact right away.
 
2014-02-04 01:00:15 PM

stappawho: Summoner101: ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.

I think this is a good prediction, but it also relies on how each team deals with the cap once their stars get paid

The biggest issue for the 9ers is age.  They are old and getting older.  They may do well in the draft and FA and keep rolling but they are going to have salary and age related issues to deal with.


You could say the Seahawks have an age issue too. They have a bunch of young guys that now have a Super Bowl win on their resumes who have to choose between an early payday or a better chance at padding their resume.
 
2014-02-04 01:03:56 PM

Shame Us: Summoner101: ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.

I think this is a good prediction, but it also relies on how each team deals with the cap once their stars get paid

SF has a little bit of an age issue too. They need to find adequate replacements for Justin Smith, Frank Gore and Patrick Willis and if Bowman's injury ends up taking 2 years to come all the way back from, who knows? A lot of Bowman's game is predicated on how quickly he moves (see the ATL pick 6, for example). If his knee isn't back for another year or two, you could suddenly start seeing that defense show cracks.


The biggest problem is in the secondary.  Carlos Rodgers is showing his age, and Tarell Brown and Donte Whitner are free agents.
 
2014-02-04 01:04:38 PM

Summoner101: You could say the Seahawks have an age issue too. They have a bunch of young guys that now have a Super Bowl win on their resumes who have to choose between an early payday or a better chance at padding their resume.


Luckily a lot of them can't be renegotiated yet. Earl Thomas is already a nice size part of the salaray cap and Kam Chancellor has already been extended.
 
2014-02-04 01:08:28 PM

Prey4reign: Thank God, the Eagles won't be spending the first quarter of the season engaged in the Michael Vick Experience.  If only Chip or his defensive coordinator discover what the secondary does and drafts accordingly, it might be a banner (not Joe) year for the Eagles.


The Browns should give the Eagles a 2nd round pick for Vick, and move on with their lives. And I'm saying this as a Ravens fan. If the Browns got someone even remotely resembling an NFL QB, they might actually do something. Assuming their management doesn't just gut the team for shiats and giggles.
 
2014-02-04 01:08:40 PM
Wait - my mistake. Earl Thomas was only at $3.6mil this season and the team has prioritized gettin ghim signed to an extension. Richard Sherman is eligible to be renegotiated this offseason, but the team has indicated that they are going to get Thomas's extension worked out first. FWIW, Sherman's salary will nearly triple whether they extended him before the season or not.
 
2014-02-04 01:12:34 PM
Uh...

I'm a die-hard Redskins fan, but how do you go 3-13 and earn the #23 spot in the Power Rankings?  That's not even in the bottom quartile of the league.

Poorly-devised Power Rankings are poorly devised.

<Checks to see if Matt Rudnitsky is related to Dan Snyder>
 
2014-02-04 01:16:15 PM

balki1867: Uh...

I'm a die-hard Redskins fan, but how do you go 3-13 and earn the #23 spot in the Power Rankings?  That's not even in the bottom quartile of the league.

Poorly-devised Power Rankings are poorly devised.

<Checks to see if Matt Rudnitsky is related to Dan Snyder>


Have RG3 18 months out from his bad knee injury and a new HC. Let's not pretend like this team has no talent on the offense. The have very little talent on the defense, but the offense is at least overage...which makes you a potential 23rd best team in the NFL.
 
2014-02-04 01:16:37 PM
The 49ers best days are past. They share a division with the NFL champs and two up-and-coming teams, in addition to their age issues.

Welcome to the cellar, Whiners. At least you can biatch about your previous Super Bowl wins.
 
2014-02-04 01:16:45 PM

Mangoose: Da Bears are going to go 16-0 and shut out every team and win by an average margin of 124 pts and be declared Super Bowl champions of every year. Ever.


jay mohr yesterday made a great point, re the "best defense ever" tag;  the 85 bears admittedly crushed the pats and held them what, 10 points, but......tony eason or whomever the hell the QB was, isn't going down in history as perhaps the greatest QB ever.  or, the 01 or whatever ravens dismantling of the giants, that was perennial HOF candidate KERRY COLLINS that got desrtoyed.  Mohr was arguing that with how dominant the Seahawks D was, they, not the 85 bears or whatever it was Ravens, should be the yardstick to measure defensive prowess.

i would prefer to just stack up the season / playoff totals for each.  yards, points allowed, turnovers, defensive scores, etc. not margin of victory necessarily, as a potent offense could skew the numbers.  just  a raw look at each team's season totals.
 
2014-02-04 01:20:24 PM

rickythepenguin: i would prefer to just stack up the season / playoff totals for each. yards, points allowed, turnovers, defensive scores, etc. not margin of victory necessarily, as a potent offense could skew the numbers. just a raw look at each team's season totals.


Tough to do that too. The '85 Bears, '00 Ravens and even the '02 Bucs played in more defense friendly times and with different rules regarding hitting and pass defense. I think the best you can say is that those teams and the '13 Seahawks are all in the top 10 defenses of all time.
 
2014-02-04 01:22:47 PM

Shame Us: Summoner101: ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.

I think this is a good prediction, but it also relies on how each team deals with the cap once their stars get paid

SF has a little bit of an age issue too. They need to find adequate replacements for Justin Smith, Frank Gore and Patrick Willis and if Bowman's injury ends up taking 2 years to come all the way back from, who knows? A lot of Bowman's game is predicated on how quickly he moves (see the ATL pick 6, for example). If his knee isn't back for another year or two, you could suddenly start seeing that defense show cracks.


Patrick Willis is 28. He's not old. He's not going anywhere for 5 years at least. Smith and Gore will have lighter roles next year but I'm not worried about Smith. He'll still be a good player. Gore has 3-4 young RBs behind him and I'm kind of worried he might not be with the team next year. Michael Wilhoite played OK while Willis was hurt this year and I think he'll hold down the fort OK until Bowman comes back.
 
2014-02-04 01:23:33 PM
Next year is the Browns year!  Superbowl Baby!

/it could happen.... stop laughing.
 
2014-02-04 01:24:26 PM

Dafatone: Shame Us: Summoner101: ongbok: dfacto: How do the 49ers get 3rd place after Denver when the team they narrowly lost to turned the Broncos into Swiss cheese?

For the next couple of years Seattle and San Fran are going to rule the NFL. It is going to be like in the 90's with Dallas and San Fran.

I think this is a good prediction, but it also relies on how each team deals with the cap once their stars get paid

SF has a little bit of an age issue too. They need to find adequate replacements for Justin Smith, Frank Gore and Patrick Willis and if Bowman's injury ends up taking 2 years to come all the way back from, who knows? A lot of Bowman's game is predicated on how quickly he moves (see the ATL pick 6, for example). If his knee isn't back for another year or two, you could suddenly start seeing that defense show cracks.

The biggest problem is in the secondary.  Carlos Rodgers is showing his age, and Tarell Brown and Donte Whitner are free agents.


Their best corner at the end of the year was Tremaine Brock. He's signed for a while. Rogers is going to have to take a pay cut or leave. I think they'll get a deal done for Brown but he's not irreplaceable. I also don't think Whitner will leave but he's also not a critical piece.
 
2014-02-04 01:25:01 PM

Shame Us: The '85 Bears, '00 Ravens and even the '02 Bucs played in more defense friendly times and with different rules regarding hitting and pass defense


yeah, and a caller noted that, re the 02 bucs specifically;  "jay, the game was different even then, you can't really compare what they did with the modern rule changes on the passing game...."

dunno.  just massive asskicking.  i watched some of the game again yesterday and the speed and hitting by the seahawks, just fearsome.  just fearsome.  what an asskicking.

sorry peyton, that was embarassing.  kudos for sticking up for your team, but history will recall this as one of the more embarassing super bowls.
 
2014-02-04 01:26:58 PM

Shame Us: Summoner101: You could say the Seahawks have an age issue too. They have a bunch of young guys that now have a Super Bowl win on their resumes who have to choose between an early payday or a better chance at padding their resume.

Luckily a lot of them can't be renegotiated yet. Earl Thomas is already a nice size part of the salaray cap and Kam Chancellor has already been extended.


Thurmond (UFA), Tate (UFA) and Baldwin (RFA) are all up for free agency (as well as Giacomini and McDaniel).  The Seahawks are also one of the teams with the most FAs and the teams with the least cap space.

They also have to be careful this year and realize that Wilson (RFA), Clemmens (UFA), Avril (UFA), Thomas (UFA) and Sherman's (UFA) contracts are up next year as well.
 
2014-02-04 01:30:08 PM

rickythepenguin: Mangoose: Da Bears are going to go 16-0 and shut out every team and win by an average margin of 124 pts and be declared Super Bowl champions of every year. Ever.

jay mohr yesterday made a great point, re the "best defense ever" tag;  the 85 bears admittedly crushed the pats and held them what, 10 points, but......tony eason or whomever the hell the QB was, isn't going down in history as perhaps the greatest QB ever.  or, the 01 or whatever ravens dismantling of the giants, that was perennial HOF candidate KERRY COLLINS that got desrtoyed.  Mohr was arguing that with how dominant the Seahawks D was, they, not the 85 bears or whatever it was Ravens, should be the yardstick to measure defensive prowess.

i would prefer to just stack up the season / playoff totals for each.  yards, points allowed, turnovers, defensive scores, etc. not margin of victory necessarily, as a potent offense could skew the numbers.  just  a raw look at each team's season totals.


Jay Mohr is not the first person to have said something like that. Anyway, here is a good breakdown of past defenses. It was done a few years ago so it doesn't include the Seahawks, but I think you can get a good sense of where they might fit. They're in the conversation.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2009/3/10/775679/a-statistical- an alysis-on
 
2014-02-04 01:31:04 PM

SuperChuck: Patrick Willis is 28. He's not old. He's not going anywhere for 5 years at least.


He's already slowing down. If he's still starting for the Niners in 3 years, their Baalke and Harbaugh should be fired.
 
2014-02-04 01:32:44 PM
If the Niners don't get ripped off by a bad call in New Orleans next season, they'll have the home field for SEA-SF NFCC II: Electric Harbaughaloo.

The next Super Bowl is #49.  The league would totally love having the 49ers play in SB49, so there will be no bad calls in New Orleans, even if they have to temporarily hire the now-out-of-work David Stern as the head of officiating.

Book it!
 
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