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2014-02-04 10:41:20 AM  

xanadian: There have also been studies that WHOLE milk is better for you when it comes to losing weight than skim milk.

/although, if you're going to drink a whole gallon a day or something, that may not work out so much for you


When you get to the chugging a gallon range, every one is lactose intolerant.  Skim or whole; You'll lose weight...from both ends.
 
2014-02-04 10:44:47 AM  
Trash is simply material we haven't found a use for.  This is a perfect example.  Something that was trash fell into a niche market as society and technology changed.  New markets and new uses for old products, even stuff considered trash, is a hallmark of capitalism.   You may scoff at eating insects or insect products now, but people 100 years from now just might being doing that.  Oh, wait.... You DO eat insects and or their products already and have for some time without complaint. Besides the obvious bees and their vomit.  If you have eaten anything containing carmine or shellac, yep insects.  If you like all natural you have also had a fair amount of beaver too. No, not the good beaver.  We are talking about the rotting smelly fat ass wood chewing rodent kind and their anal glands.  Not that any of this should really frighten or horrify you.  Fact is people should understand chemistry and reality more.  It's that ignorance or "sight unseen" attitude that breeds problems and exploitation.   In fact a single jelly bean might contain more organisms than an average American hot dog!  You never thought about pigs, chicken, cows, beaver, beetles and scale insects in your jelly beans, did you?

Would you like to talk about the rodents and food storage next?
 
2014-02-04 10:46:30 AM  
FTFA:

"...found themselves breathing the foul vapors of "dairy air" instead..."


shirt.hoboninja.com
 
2014-02-04 10:46:40 AM  
STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT I EAT AND DRINK YOU PRETENTIOUS PRICKS
 
2014-02-04 10:50:40 AM  

ga362: fruitloop
Wait, I'm not ready for a milk snob thread.  I need some popcorn.
(refresh)
Ahh!  There's no time for the air popper.  Microwave it is.

Throw the microwave stuff away (you can use it to piss your co-workers off at the office, burn it) and heaven forbid the air popped stuff. It tastes like packing foam.

Mushroom popcorn. Whirly popper. Coconut popping oil. Flavacol seasoning. Add the theatre butter if you must. Serve in a 6 bbl. grocery sack. IMHO.


Dude, I f*cking LOVE popcorn, and even I can only eat about half a billion barrels.
 
2014-02-04 10:52:47 AM  
So, if they feed, oh I don't know, celery, to pigs, does that mean I shouldn't ever eat celery?
 
2014-02-04 10:53:59 AM  

Solutare: CleanAndPure: Dr. Atkins died obese and with heart problems.

He died from slipping on ice and hitting his head on the sidewalk. His heart problems were caused by cardiomyopathy.


Now now please stop bringing facts into this conversation.
 
2014-02-04 10:58:04 AM  
Whey from the cheese-making process also used to be disposed of or fed to animals.

Now it's converted into protein supplements ensuring I get mad swole.


/ Times change, biatches.
// 26 minutes
 
2014-02-04 11:10:43 AM  

TNel: Solutare: CleanAndPure: Dr. Atkins died obese and with heart problems.

He died from slipping on ice and hitting his head on the sidewalk. His heart problems were caused by cardiomyopathy.

Now now please stop bringing facts into this conversation.


To be fair, it wasn't claimed that the good doctor died *as a result* of obesity and heart problems. Simply that he had them at the time of his death.
 
2014-02-04 11:31:19 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: To be fair, it wasn't claimed that the good doctor died *as a result* of obesity and heart problems. Simply that he had them at the time of his death.


Every time someone brings it up they are trying to disprove the Atkins diet by saying the person that made it died fat and it must not be good for you because he had heart issues.  I've seen/heard it a lot, I use Atkins to crash diet before PT tests, works amazingly well, it comes back because I eat horribly but I have very little motivation to eat well everyday right now but soon enough I'll have to rethink my eating habits.
 
2014-02-04 11:32:51 AM  

Carn: CheekyMonkey: While we're at it, let's bring back the rest of the "good, old days" too.  We'll take back the vote from wimmen, re-enslave the uppity negros, dump raw sewage in the river, dump solid waste into a handy ravine, and resume wholesale slaughter of indigenous peoples so's we can take their land and resources.

\sound good?

I don't know about any of that but skim milk is gross.


Depends on what you grew up drinking.  I grew up drinking skim milk, and whole milk always tasted disgusting, like I was drinking a glass of fat.  I actually LIKED that skim milk was watery.

Of course, nowadays, I drink no milk at all, so who really cares?
 
2014-02-04 11:38:39 AM  

GBB: [s.wsj.net image 262x394]

How do you guys feel about almond milk?
I've been drinking it for the past couple weeks.   Takes a little getting used to.


I never could get used to it.
 
2014-02-04 11:45:35 AM  
Who would have guessed that skim milk butthurt would be so delicious?
 
2014-02-04 11:48:03 AM  
STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT I EAT AND DRINK YOU PRETENTIOUS PRICKS
 

"Stop giving your opinion in comment threads!!!"
 
2014-02-04 11:52:50 AM  
So, you're a vegetarian? Did you know that Hitler was a vegetarian as well?
 
2014-02-04 12:10:39 PM  

GBB: [s.wsj.net image 262x394]

How do you guys feel about almond milk?
I've been drinking it for the past couple weeks.   Takes a little getting used to.


it's pretty acceptable on certain cereals. I drink the dark chocolate one sometimes.
It works good for baking- makes a sweeter taste, though, especially if you get the more sugared types. Corn bread is less crumbly.
Also, a more dense, less frothy smoothie.
 
2014-02-04 12:12:41 PM  
If you want to get all gross and technical about it and promote fear mongering, at least 1/4 of your processed foods contain things currently and once used as animal food as well as fertilizer.

It doesn't mean that the substances are harmful, low grade or bad for you.

Take corn. It's used is hundreds of products in different forms, from fillers to pet foods, to beers, fuel, insulation, paper, artificial logs, sweetener and more.

Curds and whey used to be a food product and a popular one at that.

There are times when ignorance is bliss when it comes to knowing what is in your food. All sorts of healthy, safe stuff can sound gross when you know where it came from.

The origin of many a delicious sausage came from farmers ages ago finding ways to process scrap meats to avoid waste and which would have a long shelf life plus be easily portable for long travel.
Many a pioneer having to trek miles through forests, swamps, snows and muck used various animal greases rendered from cooking meat on their shoes to waterproof and preserve them. Grease coated sheets of paper made up some of the first cheap windows. You couldn't see well through them, but they let in light, kept out rain and cold. Vellum was also used (dried, thin sliced animal skin) because paper could be more expensive.

The current thing today is to gross out consumers by telling them what awful stuff is in their food, that has been there for years, what its origins are and not mention that it's healthy, tasty and good for you.

Scrapple and Tongue and Blood sausage come to mind.
 
2014-02-04 12:35:54 PM  

whatsupchuck: The armchair nutritionists are starting to trickle in, I see.  Many citations will be needed.

I drink skim milk because I was raised on it and I prefer it.  You can drink whatever you want, but please don't make up a bunch of BS excuses for why it's better.


All nutritionists are armchair nutritionists. An actual expert is called a dietitian. If they call themselves a nutritionists, they are a quack.
 
2014-02-04 12:40:32 PM  
If you drank whole, real milk you'd be getting quality stuff, but nooo ...
 
2014-02-04 12:46:22 PM  

rczeien: whatsupchuck: The armchair nutritionists are starting to trickle in, I see.  Many citations will be needed.

I drink skim milk because I was raised on it and I prefer it.  You can drink whatever you want, but please don't make up a bunch of BS excuses for why it's better.

All nutritionists are armchair nutritionists. An actual expert is called a dietitian. If they call themselves a nutritionists, they are a quack.


My SIL is an actual expert, head of the School of Nutrition at a major university (and an advisor to the local Dairy Council, interestingly enough).  I'm honestly not sure which of these she calls herself, but I don't know why that should make a difference.
 
2014-02-04 12:47:16 PM  
All nutritionists are armchair nutritionists. An actual expert is called a dietitian. If they call themselves a nutritionists, they are a quack

 
neither is a doctor or a scientist
 
2014-02-04 01:06:04 PM  

whatsupchuck: rczeien: All nutritionists are armchair nutritionists. An actual expert is called a dietitian. If they call themselves a nutritionists, they are a quack.

My SIL is an actual expert, head of the School of Nutrition at a major university (and an advisor to the local Dairy Council, interestingly enough).  I'm honestly not sure which of these she calls herself, but I don't know why that should make a difference.


She's a Registered Dietician (RD), so you very well could be correct.
 
2014-02-04 01:10:17 PM  
Thats not the only thing in the pig slop.

Be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm.
 
2014-02-04 01:10:42 PM  

whatsupchuck: whatsupchuck: rczeien: All nutritionists are armchair nutritionists. An actual expert is called a dietitian. If they call themselves a nutritionists, they are a quack.

My SIL is an actual expert, head of the School of Nutrition at a major university (and an advisor to the local Dairy Council, interestingly enough).  I'm honestly not sure which of these she calls herself, but I don't know why that should make a difference.

She's a Registered Dietician (RD), so you very well could be correct.


Usually nutrionists are people that a gym will hire because they are pretty and gave it up to the hiring person to get a job.  It needs no qualifications other than saying "Fast food bad, home made food good"
 
2014-02-04 01:14:54 PM  
I eat a ketogenic diet, essentially the 'induction' phase of Atkins. I feel better than I ever have in my whole life, my lipid and A1C panels are vastly improved (enough the doc said there was no longer a reason for me to take any statins or worry about the Beetus), my blood pressure is way the hell down and the bonus is the 35 lbs. I've lost in just about 4 and a half months.

While I don't drink whole milk (I used to, and I love it), gimme some heavy cream and butter. Love those fats.
 
2014-02-04 01:23:26 PM  
I was given skim as a kid until I became Iron anemic and the doc told my parents to give me no less than 2%.  I buy whole, now that I get to choose.  That is all.
 
2014-02-04 01:31:53 PM  

The_Hound: I eat a ketogenic diet, essentially the 'induction' phase of Atkins. I feel better than I ever have in my whole life, my lipid and A1C panels are vastly improved (enough the doc said there was no longer a reason for me to take any statins or worry about the Beetus), my blood pressure is way the hell down and the bonus is the 35 lbs. I've lost in just about 4 and a half months.

While I don't drink whole milk (I used to, and I love it), gimme some heavy cream and butter. Love those fats.


I did keto for a little while, but cream is very expensive and I essentially stopped pooping for a while. So I'm working on including fats but keeping in some grains so I can, you know, sh*t on a regular basis.

/Besides, who wants to give up home-baked bread with real butter?
//Not I.
 
2014-02-04 01:40:41 PM  

verbaltoxin: The_Hound: I eat a ketogenic diet, essentially the 'induction' phase of Atkins. I feel better than I ever have in my whole life, my lipid and A1C panels are vastly improved (enough the doc said there was no longer a reason for me to take any statins or worry about the Beetus), my blood pressure is way the hell down and the bonus is the 35 lbs. I've lost in just about 4 and a half months.

While I don't drink whole milk (I used to, and I love it), gimme some heavy cream and butter. Love those fats.

I did keto for a little while, but cream is very expensive and I essentially stopped pooping for a while. So I'm working on including fats but keeping in some grains so I can, you know, sh*t on a regular basis.

/Besides, who wants to give up home-baked bread with real butter?
//Not I.


I don't miss it at all - shiat, for about a year, my daily diet was Wendy's Whateverburgerofthemonth + fries, all large, with a Dr. Pepper. I go there sometimes now just for a salad and bunless burger. I tried to get enthusiastic about fries last time I went, but....nothing. The longer you keto, the less appealing starchy, carb-laden foods become, at least in my case.

My poop stabilized after a month or so; eating spinach, kale, broccoli/cauliflower and asparagus seems to be all the fiber I need anymore.

/and yes, butter, real butter
//heavy cream is only $2.17 quart at Sam's club
 
2014-02-04 01:48:07 PM  

The_Hound: //heavy cream is only $2.17 quart at Sam's club


Sam's/Costco should be the only place you buy heavy cream, I used to make a lot of ice cream with the kids and it's way too expensive everywhere else.
 
2014-02-04 01:54:27 PM  

doosh: Didn't read TFA but the poor shleps who drink skim thinking they're doing their bodies a favor vs whole milk are suffering needlessly. It may not sound logical but fat does not make you fat (sugar, starches and flour do).

Loves me real dairy whole cream milk and butter!!


No, fat just clogs your arteries and gives you a heart attack or stroke. Eat up!
 
2014-02-04 02:00:03 PM  

GBB: [s.wsj.net image 262x394]

How do you guys feel about almond milk?
I've been drinking it for the past couple weeks.   Takes a little getting used to.


It beats the hell out of soy milk. I don't find it too bad. I get room clearing gas when I drink regular milk so I tried a few different options. I've settled on PurFiltre Lactose Free 2%.
 
2014-02-04 02:01:45 PM  
Whoops, Trutaste.

www.neilsondairy.com
 
2014-02-04 03:47:52 PM  
Use whatever labels you prefer, I'll still enjoy it.
 
2014-02-04 04:17:34 PM  

doosh: I'm no white knight for milk but given the choice I'd honestly choose water over skim milk. There, you saved a few more calories!


I feel exactly the same way about "lite" beer.
 
2014-02-04 06:15:11 PM  

katerbug72: doosh: Didn't read TFA but the poor shleps who drink skim thinking they're doing their bodies a favor vs whole milk are suffering needlessly. It may not sound logical but fat does not make you fat (sugar, starches and flour do).

Loves me real dairy whole cream milk and butter!!

No, fat just clogs your arteries and gives you a heart attack or stroke. Eat up!


lolno
and you sound like an asshole to boot
eat up!
 
2014-02-04 07:53:59 PM  
Ugh.  And those stupid god awful water drinkers.  Don't those miserable slobs realize they're drinking fish litter boxes?
 
2014-02-04 10:06:08 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Ugh.  And those stupid god awful water drinkers.  Don't those miserable slobs realize they're drinking fish litter boxes?


31.media.tumblr.com

"..fish fark in it.."
 
2014-02-04 10:42:56 PM  

inner ted: katerbug72: doosh: Didn't read TFA but the poor shleps who drink skim thinking they're doing their bodies a favor vs whole milk are suffering needlessly. It may not sound logical but fat does not make you fat (sugar, starches and flour do).

Loves me real dairy whole cream milk and butter!!

No, fat just clogs your arteries and gives you a heart attack or stroke. Eat up!

lolno
and you sound like an asshole to boot
eat up!


Sorry, didn't mean to be an asshole, but yes, bad fats like butter have cholesterol and that clogs up your arteries if you eat too much. (I'm not saying YOU eat too much of it)
 
2014-02-04 10:45:38 PM  

katerbug72: inner ted: katerbug72: doosh: Didn't read TFA but the poor shleps who drink skim thinking they're doing their bodies a favor vs whole milk are suffering needlessly. It may not sound logical but fat does not make you fat (sugar, starches and flour do).

Loves me real dairy whole cream milk and butter!!

No, fat just clogs your arteries and gives you a heart attack or stroke. Eat up!

lolno
and you sound like an asshole to boot
eat up!

Sorry, didn't mean to be an asshole, but yes, bad fats like butter have cholesterol and that clogs up your arteries if you eat too much. (I'm not saying YOU eat too much of it)


Rather, they raise your blood cholesterol levels.
 
2014-02-04 11:08:47 PM  

xanadian: There have also been studies that WHOLE milk is better for you when it comes to losing weight than skim milk.

/although, if you're going to drink a whole gallon a day or something, that may not work out so much for you


You'd also have to limit your intake to less than a cup a day. The idea is that your body does need fats, but there are other places to get those healthy fats-- like meat and eggs and avocados and olive oil and nuts-- if you're not getting it from dairy.

/Been drinking about 2 cups a day of skim since early November.
//Down by more than 20 lbs, and that was over the holidays, biatches.
 
2014-02-05 03:01:43 AM  

GBB: [s.wsj.net image 262x394]

How do you guys feel about almond milk?
I've been drinking it for the past couple weeks.   Takes a little getting used to.


It's nut juice, although they can't really market it as that. I do use almond milk sometimes, but only the brands that don't have added sugar.
 
2014-02-05 03:06:08 AM  

lack of warmth: I was given skim as a kid until I became Iron anemic and the doc told my parents to give me no less than 2%.  I buy whole, now that I get to choose.  That is all.


?????

What's the connection? Dairy products inhibit the body's ability to absorb iron. What does it matter what the fat content is?
 
2014-02-05 04:03:14 AM  

verbaltoxin: The_Hound: I eat a ketogenic diet, essentially the 'induction' phase of Atkins. I feel better than I ever have in my whole life, my lipid and A1C panels are vastly improved (enough the doc said there was no longer a reason for me to take any statins or worry about the Beetus), my blood pressure is way the hell down and the bonus is the 35 lbs. I've lost in just about 4 and a half months.

While I don't drink whole milk (I used to, and I love it), gimme some heavy cream and butter. Love those fats.

I did keto for a little while, but cream is very expensive and I essentially stopped pooping for a while. So I'm working on including fats but keeping in some grains so I can, you know, sh*t on a regular basis.

/Besides, who wants to give up home-baked bread with real butter?
//Not I.


I tried the Atkins diet years ago. You know what did me in? Beverages. I am a beverage fiend.
 
2014-02-05 10:13:05 AM  

katerbug72: inner ted: katerbug72: doosh: Didn't read TFA but the poor shleps who drink skim thinking they're doing their bodies a favor vs whole milk are suffering needlessly. It may not sound logical but fat does not make you fat (sugar, starches and flour do).

Loves me real dairy whole cream milk and butter!!

No, fat just clogs your arteries and gives you a heart attack or stroke. Eat up!

lolno
and you sound like an asshole to boot
eat up!

Sorry, didn't mean to be an asshole, but yes, bad fats like butter have cholesterol and that clogs up your arteries if you eat too much. (I'm not saying YOU eat too much of it)


no worries
but i completely disagree with your take.  the whole "good fats" & "bad fats" is a thing, but you have it ass-backwards.

saturated fats are good for you.  you need cholesterol.
trans fats are not
cheers
 
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