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2014-02-04 11:11:45 AM  

frepnog: why does everyone think Mia is the one with problems?

/seriously, I don't know


Why do you think there can be only one half of a former couple who has problems? Why do you assume "everyone" here thinks the same thing? Why, in a situation as private and murky as this one, would anyone be so ridiculously over-invested as to assume they know what happened?
 
2014-02-04 11:22:37 AM  

s2s2s2: Jizz Master Zero: Roman has gone full throttle and won't shut up about it and here we are.

*Rowan


Actually, it is Ronan:

comicattack.net
 
2014-02-04 11:24:06 AM  

Kid the Universe: Jizz Master Zero: Mad_Radhu: Jizz Master Zero: Can anyone give me an unbiased rundown of this whole thing? I've been able to pick up little details (there was a taped deposition that was suspiciously stopped/started in between every question and answer, the whole thing was thrown out of court for lack of evidence, Mia Farrow has a reputation as a childish psycho), but I have no idea what the full story is and I can't find a concise account anywhere.

The details that are missing make a huge difference. Has Dylan been tortured with this secret her whole life, or did she go to some wacky shrink who "recovered" a memory of abuse? Without knowing more, I just don't feel comfortable taking one side or the other.

That's about the only part of this I do know something about: The allegations came up when Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were fighting for custody of the kids way back when. It was thrown out (seemingly because of some shady details on Farrow's part, this is the main part that I'm unclear on) and hasn't really been dredged up again until Mia made a snarky tweet and Roman went on a Twitter rant after Allen's Golden Globes award a few weeks ago. It seems like Mia is fairly quiet about it beyond her Twitter comment, but Roman has gone full throttle and won't shut up about it and here we are.

and it's really just... embarrassing at this point. why are they doing this in such a public way? why now? before I read the dailybeast article I was not sure who to believe but after reading it and the detailed way the author lists all of Mia's actions over the years it's pretty obvious who to believe.


That's pretty much where I'm a now that I've read it. It's one thing to be petty and vindictive yourself but when you manipulate your children in such a deplorable way just so you can get back at an ex, that's flat out disgusting.

s2s2s2: Jizz Master Zero: Roman has gone full throttle and won't shut up about it and here we are.

*Rowan


That's totally what I wrote. Something happened when I hit Add Comment and it chan--aw dammit. Yeah. That's who I meant.
 
2014-02-04 11:24:38 AM  
It's fun to see the same gang who got the noose out for Jameis Winston rise up to defend Woody.
 
2014-02-04 11:26:06 AM  

Mad_Radhu: s2s2s2: Jizz Master Zero: Roman has gone full throttle and won't shut up about it and here we are.

*Rowan

Actually, it is Ronan:

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No! Wait! That's who I meant!
 
2014-02-04 11:28:29 AM  

frepnog: why does everyone think Mia is the one with problems?

/seriously, I don't know


Serial adopter, known homewrecker, probable faked paternity, sibling who is a convicted kiddie-fiddler she never discusses.

Hell, she's practically Angelina Jolie. Or Madonna.
 
2014-02-04 11:30:14 AM  
When I was four, my parents and I drove to Cleveland to visit my Godfather, who was my dad's best friend from the Air Force. As soon as we arrived, I was whisked off to the bedroom to take a much-needed nap. I remember being annoyed at this since I wanted to be in the living room where all the action was. But the bed was comfy and the radio was on and I eventually fell asleep.

Before I fell asleep, I heard the song Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Elton John on the radio. All my life since then, I've associated that song with my Godfather and our trip to Cleveland. This is a very vivid memory... I can close my eyes and remember being in that bed and hearing the chorus to that song as if it was yesterday.

About a month ago I was surfing the internet and I discovered that Goodbye Yellow Brick Road was released in 1973. My trip to Cleveland occurred in 1969. It's therefore impossible that I lay in that bed being lulled to sleep by Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, even though, as I said, I can remember it like it was yesterday.

This CSB is presented as evidence that we really can manufacture memories. It's not meant to support one side or another.
 
2014-02-04 11:33:52 AM  
Do we know their reactions to the new intended quotations?
 
2014-02-04 11:33:57 AM  
 going on TV or making money off of this.

Granted Dylan Farrow isnt.. but Rowan? the one who started off the tweeting?.. hes has a new show coming up on MSNBC.. call me a cynical bastard.. but publicity is publicity, theres is no such things as bad publicity. He wants viewers for his new show.
 
2014-02-04 11:37:04 AM  

DamnYankees: Do we know their reactions to the new intended quotations?


They're said to be currently getting over it.
 
2014-02-04 11:37:13 AM  

LikeALeafOnTheWind: going on TV or making money off of this.

Granted Dylan Farrow isnt.. but Rowan? the one who started off the tweeting?.. hes has a new show coming up on MSNBC.. call me a cynical bastard.. but publicity is publicity, theres is no such things as bad publicity. He wants viewers for his new show.


Ronan, not Rowan.
 
2014-02-04 11:39:15 AM  

sotua: frepnog: hasty ambush: Allen would not be the first man to be falsely accused thanks to the coaching of a child by a bitter ex.

and just sometimes....  people actually DO the things people accuse them of, sometimes PRECISELY because they full well know they can get away with it.

Like Bill Murray?


No one will ever believe you.
 
2014-02-04 11:40:42 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: DamnYankees: Do we know their reactions to the new intended quotations?

They're said to be currently getting over it.


Alec Baldwin said, "Who the f&00000000 does Drew think he is? People go 2 Fark because it's Fark, not because it's Reddit. If I wanted to go to Reddit, I'd whip my cock out and smack those f$@^#&! in the face."

He later deleted his comments.
 
2014-02-04 11:41:14 AM  

DamnYankees: LikeALeafOnTheWind: going on TV or making money off of this.

Granted Dylan Farrow isnt.. but Rowan? the one who started off the tweeting?.. hes has a new show coming up on MSNBC.. call me a cynical bastard.. but publicity is publicity, theres is no such things as bad publicity. He wants viewers for his new show.

Ronan, not Rowan.


At this point I'm going to just start calling the farking guy Dave.
 
2014-02-04 11:44:38 AM  
Because of the internet, I read too much about: celebrity sex abuse scandals, bitcoins and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

I agree with Alec Baldwin and would like to add that someone should file some charges with the police or shut up about it.

Thinking of a situation I'm watching right now in my own life, my personal advice to the kids and anybody else being victim of sexual abuse is to contact the authorities immediately, do not wait for other people to intermediate for you, get a uniformed police officer to your location as fast as possible.

Time is your enemy.
 
2014-02-04 11:45:47 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: DamnYankees: LikeALeafOnTheWind: going on TV or making money off of this.

Granted Dylan Farrow isnt.. but Rowan? the one who started off the tweeting?.. hes has a new show coming up on MSNBC.. call me a cynical bastard.. but publicity is publicity, theres is no such things as bad publicity. He wants viewers for his new show.

Ronan, not Rowan.

At this point I'm going to just start calling the farking guy Dave.


I prefer Mr. Tibbs. It increases the racial aspect of the whole kerfuffle.
 
2014-02-04 11:50:17 AM  

Valiente: Serial adopter, known homewrecker, probable faked paternity, sibling who is a convicted kiddie-fiddler she never discusses.


none of that really equals "more than likely has sex with children".

serial adopter?  how is that bad?

what the fark is a "known homewrecker"?  Is that even a thing in hollywood, where they change sex partners more than underwear?

faked paternity?  who cares?

sibling kiddie-fiddler she doesn't discuss?  WHO WOULD?
 
2014-02-04 11:51:08 AM  

frepnog: none of that really equals "more than likely has sex with children".


I don't think anyone is accusing Farrow of being a child molester. Just that she's hardly a stable person.
 
2014-02-04 11:53:41 AM  

The Why Not Guy: When I was four, my parents and I drove to Cleveland to visit my Godfather, who was my dad's best friend from the Air Force. As soon as we arrived, I was whisked off to the bedroom to take a much-needed nap. I remember being annoyed at this since I wanted to be in the living room where all the action was. But the bed was comfy and the radio was on and I eventually fell asleep.

Before I fell asleep, I heard the song Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Elton John on the radio. All my life since then, I've associated that song with my Godfather and our trip to Cleveland. This is a very vivid memory... I can close my eyes and remember being in that bed and hearing the chorus to that song as if it was yesterday.

About a month ago I was surfing the internet and I discovered that Goodbye Yellow Brick Road was released in 1973. My trip to Cleveland occurred in 1969. It's therefore impossible that I lay in that bed being lulled to sleep by Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, even though, as I said, I can remember it like it was yesterday.

This CSB is presented as evidence that we really can manufacture memories. It's not meant to support one side or another.


Interesting. I had a similar epiphany the other night. We've been going through the entire Twilight Zone series, an episode or two an evening. I've long had a very vivid memory of being frightened by particular images in the opening credits of that show when I was three. I can place the time, because it was before my mother divorced my father. I remember the apartment we lived in and hiding behind the sofa because I was spooked. Looking at the copyright dates of the episodes, I find that the images that I remember being frightened by weren't used yet at the time I believe I saw them; they came alone in later seasons. They weren't broadcast until a couple of years after my parents divorced, in fact, so obviously I conflated something with something else. Yet I still have that memory, and it still seems accurate.

Nothing to do with anything being discussed, really. Just thought I'd chime in.
 
2014-02-04 11:59:23 AM  

hasty ambush: INeedAName: I think Hollywood needs to burn a bit over this. They seem to be pretty insular and protective over some pretty questionable stuff at times and it would be good for some light to get in there and expose some of the crap.

Many of the Hollywood types are in the same crowd that say if a woman claims to have been raped she must be believed, They are normally not so shy in voicing their opinions are matters like this.... unless of course it is of of their own Allen , Polanski, Clinton any Kennedy. Then it becomes not really any of their business or as in the case of Polanski it was not "rape, rape" and excusable.

Do I think Allen is a creepy pervert who I would not trust around kids? Yes. I s he innocent till proven guilty Yes. The actions of Mia and company right now leave me with too much room for reasonable doubt at this point. Allen would not be the first man to be falsely accused thanks to the coaching of a child by a bitter ex.


Is he overrated in his profession. Most definitely.


I'm torn as well. I want Hollywood-types to burn for being child molesters (even if they may not be guilty), but I also think women make up most sexual assault complaints. Talk about a rock and a hard place!
 
2014-02-04 12:00:45 PM  

markfara: The Why Not Guy: When I was four, my parents and I drove to Cleveland to visit my Godfather, who was my dad's best friend from the Air Force. As soon as we arrived, I was whisked off to the bedroom to take a much-needed nap. I remember being annoyed at this since I wanted to be in the living room where all the action was. But the bed was comfy and the radio was on and I eventually fell asleep.

Before I fell asleep, I heard the song Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Elton John on the radio. All my life since then, I've associated that song with my Godfather and our trip to Cleveland. This is a very vivid memory... I can close my eyes and remember being in that bed and hearing the chorus to that song as if it was yesterday.

About a month ago I was surfing the internet and I discovered that Goodbye Yellow Brick Road was released in 1973. My trip to Cleveland occurred in 1969. It's therefore impossible that I lay in that bed being lulled to sleep by Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, even though, as I said, I can remember it like it was yesterday.

This CSB is presented as evidence that we really can manufacture memories. It's not meant to support one side or another.

Interesting. I had a similar epiphany the other night. We've been going through the entire Twilight Zone series, an episode or two an evening. I've long had a very vivid memory of being frightened by particular images in the opening credits of that show when I was three. I can place the time, because it was before my mother divorced my father. I remember the apartment we lived in and hiding behind the sofa because I was spooked. Looking at the copyright dates of the episodes, I find that the images that I remember being frightened by weren't used yet at the time I believe I saw them; they came alone in later seasons. They weren't broadcast until a couple of years after my parents divorced, in fact, so obviously I conflated something with something else. Yet I still have that memory, and it still seems accurate.

Nothing to do with anything being discussed, really. Just thought I'd chime in.


I could be wrong, and I often am, but it was my understanding that every time you recall a memory you lose a little bit of it. So all of your treasured childhood memories are actually warped shadows of what they once were.
 
2014-02-04 12:03:44 PM  

Moopy Mac: I also think women make up most sexual assault complaints.


I don't know about that but certainly plenty are made up. Just know that there's also quite a few that are certainly real but never reported. Which of course has nothing to do with who is telling the truth in the case at hand. I don't know myself and now I am going to stop thinking about it.
 
2014-02-04 12:04:05 PM  

FLMountainMan: It's fun to see the same gang who got the noose out for Jameis Winston rise up to defend Woody.


Same gang? Really?

I had to Google him to see who he was. And if "Damn, Allen's creepy but this whole thing is too murky to blacklist him over" is "rising up to defend" him, that's a pretty weak defense.
 
2014-02-04 12:05:40 PM  

frepnog: faked paternity? who cares?


Sinatra's wife, I imagine.
 
2014-02-04 12:06:31 PM  

frepnog: Valiente: Serial adopter, known homewrecker, probable faked paternity, sibling who is a convicted kiddie-fiddler she never discusses.

none of that really equals "more than likely has sex with children".

serial adopter?  how is that bad?

A person trying to fill a hole in their life and looking for attention and love. They have been known to make stuff up to fill those holes and get attention.

what the fark is a "known homewrecker"?  Is that even a thing in hollywood, where they change sex partners more than underwear?
A dishonest person only thinking about their own satisfaction and themselves. And yes it is a thing in Hollywood also.

faked paternity?  who cares?
Really? A liar. A person that will lie about that will lie about anything.

sibling kiddie-fiddler she doesn't discuss?  WHO WOULD? Yeah, I probably wouldn't talk about that either.

I don't know if she is lying or not, but she is a nutbag.
 
2014-02-04 12:07:08 PM  
Nana's Vibrator :
Oh, ladies. Who in their right mind would have a problem with free and unlimited access to all of that...Woody...Allen...meatstick? Just having him writhe over the top of you, pumping away, that loose neck skin flapping in unison with each push of his shaky stick-figure legs, somehow reminding you of anorexic turtles. And you have to wonder: Does he take off his socks and glasses? Would you look?

All that and the whining too? Or maybe he makes a wheezing sound like Principal Hancock did in Forrest Gump.
Might could be that he whines AND wheezes. Throw in a few farts and it would be quite the experience.
 
2014-02-04 12:11:45 PM  

tblax: markfara: The Why Not Guy: When I was four, my parents and I drove to Cleveland to visit my Godfather, who was my dad's best friend from the Air Force. As soon as we arrived, I was whisked off to the bedroom to take a much-needed nap. I remember being annoyed at this since I wanted to be in the living room where all the action was. But the bed was comfy and the radio was on and I eventually fell asleep.

Before I fell asleep, I heard the song Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Elton John on the radio. All my life since then, I've associated that song with my Godfather and our trip to Cleveland. This is a very vivid memory... I can close my eyes and remember being in that bed and hearing the chorus to that song as if it was yesterday.

About a month ago I was surfing the internet and I discovered that Goodbye Yellow Brick Road was released in 1973. My trip to Cleveland occurred in 1969. It's therefore impossible that I lay in that bed being lulled to sleep by Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, even though, as I said, I can remember it like it was yesterday.

This CSB is presented as evidence that we really can manufacture memories. It's not meant to support one side or another.

Interesting. I had a similar epiphany the other night. We've been going through the entire Twilight Zone series, an episode or two an evening. I've long had a very vivid memory of being frightened by particular images in the opening credits of that show when I was three. I can place the time, because it was before my mother divorced my father. I remember the apartment we lived in and hiding behind the sofa because I was spooked. Looking at the copyright dates of the episodes, I find that the images that I remember being frightened by weren't used yet at the time I believe I saw them; they came alone in later seasons. They weren't broadcast until a couple of years after my parents divorced, in fact, so obviously I conflated something with something else. Yet I still have that memory, and it still seems accu ...



They're all memories of memories, and colored with what others have told you about the events.

I have vague memories of watching the Apollo 11 landings, but I can't be sure if they are my memories from when I was 5 years old, or if they are constructed from my parents telling me how we all watched in on TV.
 
2014-02-04 12:13:21 PM  
Seriously, I don't understand why anyone would think this kid's father was Frank Sinatra.  Really, no clue whatsoever ...
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2014-02-04 12:14:35 PM  

frepnog: why does everyone think Mia is the one with problems?

/seriously, I don't know



Let's see if I can present a scenario, based solely on my own speculation. Mia Farrow married Frank Sinatra when she was 19 and he was 50, half his age. Then she moved on to Andre Previn. Then to Woody Allen. I can see a career of star-f**king going on here. You picking up on that at all?
Now, she's no longer the beauty she was and is she is no longer able to sleep her way around Hollywood, or be on the 'A' list. She and her entire family have lost their celebrity status. It's over. Yet, she nor members of her family can move on. Woody has.

Lastly, to top it off, this woman who at one point was married to the most powerful man in show biz, Frank Sinatra, was dropped for a woman half her age. And to top that off, a woman Farrow she brought to this country and legally adopted, and has no relationship with anymore either.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
 
2014-02-04 12:16:21 PM  

ChrisDe: The Muthaship: Alec deserves a pass for this, he was busy abusing his own daughter.

Actually, his response was on point. He doesn't know what the hell went on, and we don't either.


Did you feel the same way about Michael Jackson?  Serious question.
 
2014-02-04 12:18:36 PM  

kanesays: frepnog: why does everyone think Mia is the one with problems?/seriously, I don't know

Let's see if I can present a scenario, based solely on my own speculation. Mia Farrow married Frank Sinatra when she was 19 and he was 50, half his age. Then she moved on to Andre Previn. Then to Woody Allen. I can see a career of star-f**king going on here. You picking up on that at all?
Now, she's no longer the beauty she was and is she is no longer able to sleep her way around Hollywood, or be on the 'A' list. She and her entire family have lost their celebrity status. It's over. Yet, she nor members of her family can move on. Woody has.

Lastly, to top it off, this woman who at one point was married to the most powerful man in show biz, Frank Sinatra, was dropped for a woman half her age. And to top that off, a woman Farrow she brought to this country and legally adopted, and has no relationship with anymore either.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.


So, instead of looking at alleged molestation by this beloved director, we should be examining in great detail one of his past loves?
 
2014-02-04 12:20:22 PM  
By Occam's Razor, I would guess that in order to extort as much money out of Woody, she poisoned her daughter with lies for so long they both actually believe them by now. Or Woody did it.
 
2014-02-04 12:33:25 PM  

frepnog: but woody didn't do nothin' wrong.

and even tho it is apparently obvious that he did, he made those movies people like so no one cares.

isn't that the real jist here?  if you are a successful film maker, you can be a pedo no prob?


No, that's not what anyone is saying.  There is a difference between saying, "There isn't enough evidence, I don't feel comfortable picking a side" and, "It's totes cool that he raped her, he makes movies I like."
 
2014-02-04 12:38:41 PM  

Valiente: frepnog: why does everyone think Mia is the one with problems?

/seriously, I don't know

Serial adopter, known homewrecker, probable faked paternity, sibling who is a convicted kiddie-fiddler she never discusses.


You forgot to mention that she supports Roman Polanski!
 
2014-02-04 12:40:21 PM  
Hey everyone, did you see this yet?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-alle gations-not-so-fast.html

Did you? Did you?

Getting tired of all of Woody's white knighters posting this link on every thread about this issue. It doesn't 'debunk' the allegations Dylan is making, at all. It's kind of creepy, to be honest.
 
2014-02-04 12:45:09 PM  

Cletus C.:



So, instead of looking at alleged molestation by this beloved director, we should be examining in great detail one of his past loves?


You want to look at alleged molestation charges? OK, there was an investigation, but Allen was never charged with a crime. Connecticut County Prosecutor Frank Maco dismissed the abuse charges against Woody.


Then Maco maintained that he had "probable cause" to believe Dylan.


Maco then sent his "probable cause" statement to the Surrogate's Court judge in Manhattan who was still deciding on Allen's adoption status of Dylan and Moses, which Mia was trying to annul. The panel wrote, "In most circumstances, [Maco's comments] would have violated the prosecutor's obligation to the accused. [His actions were] inappropriate, unsolicited, and potentially prejudicial." The article states that the agency could have voted sanctions against Maco ranging from censure to disbarment.


As another blow to Farrow's claims, a former nanny to the children, Monica Thompson swore in a deposition that she was pressured by Farrow to support the molestation charges, and the pressure led her to resign her position.



Now, you should further your reading on Farrow and the videotape deposition and the mysterious pauses in the tape, and how it is suspected by some authorities that Farrow is coercing her daughter on what to say to the camera.


//Annie Hall vs. Star Wars does not have a goddamn thing to do with this.

 
2014-02-04 12:51:28 PM  

kanesays: Cletus C.:

So, instead of looking at alleged molestation by this beloved director, we should be examining in great detail one of his past loves?
You want to look at alleged molestation charges? OK, there was an investigation, but Allen was never charged with a crime. Connecticut County Prosecutor Frank Maco dismissed the abuse charges against Woody.
Then Maco maintained that he had "probable cause" to believe Dylan.
Maco then sent his "probable cause" statement to the Surrogate's Court judge in Manhattan who was still deciding on Allen's adoption status of Dylan and Moses, which Mia was trying to annul. The panel wrote, "In most circumstances, [Maco's comments] would have violated the prosecutor's obligation to the accused. [His actions were] inappropriate, unsolicited, and potentially prejudicial." The article states that the agency could have voted sanctions against Maco ranging from censure to disbarment.
As another blow to Farrow's claims, a former nanny to the children, Monica Thompson swore in a deposition that she was pressured by Farrow to support the molestation charges, and the pressure led her to resign her position.

Now, you should further your reading on Farrow and the videotape deposition and the mysterious pauses in the tape, and how it is suspected by some authorities that Farrow is coercing her daughter on what to say to the camera.
//Annie Hall vs. Star Wars does not have a goddamn thing to do with this.


I tend to agree that unless a farking child can provide hard proof of their claim that uncle Woody has been abusing them, their complaints should be dismissed out of hand. Especially if the person they are accusing is rich and famous. Fark Mia Farrow, the prosecutor and the former nanny. The victim, now an adult, is quite definitive on what happened.

But go ahead and enjoy Take the Money and Run because it really is a good movie.
 
2014-02-04 01:01:07 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Moopy Mac: I also think women make up most sexual assault complaints.

I don't know about that but certainly plenty are made up. Just know that there's also quite a few that are certainly real but never reported. Which of course has nothing to do with who is telling the truth in the case at hand. I don't know myself and now I am going to stop thinking about it.



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Probably should leave my post un-edited so that others can get the context of the comment.
 
2014-02-04 01:03:52 PM  

batlock666: Valiente: frepnog: why does everyone think Mia is the one with problems?

/seriously, I don't know

Serial adopter, known homewrecker, probable faked paternity, sibling who is a convicted kiddie-fiddler she never discusses.

You forgot to mention that she supports Roman Polanski!


Hey guys!

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2014-02-04 01:09:10 PM  

frepnog: hasty ambush: Allen would not be the first man to be falsely accused thanks to the coaching of a child by a bitter ex.

and just sometimes....  people actually DO the things people accuse them of, sometimes PRECISELY because they full well know they can get away with it.


I am not saying it did not happen but normally under our justice system burden of prove is on the accuser, there is nor should there be an exception for rape/child abuse.  Right now all you have is a he said she said situation, a bitter ex and a vague reason why a DA chose not to try and prosecute.   I would need more before sending a man to prison.

Since legal action does not seem possible and you feel strongly that the is guilty best response would be to boycott Allen movies and the works off those who think it is Ok to work with him.

But Hollywood and the movie going public does not seem to care given the how they treat the likes Polanski.  I mean they will boycott things like Arizona but one of their own over child rape, not hardly.
 
2014-02-04 01:10:25 PM  

someonelse: frepnog: faked paternity? who cares?

Sinatra's wife, I imagine.


Also, Allen for having to pay child support

She tried to pass off this kid as Woody Allen's kid.
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And now she is being all coy and saying that it was Sinatra's kid. And if this is the case, which, come on, look at that mug, it would mean she had an affair with Frank while he was still married. And she knew this and yet still made Allen pay for child support for him.

Farrow is a notorious liar who does what she wants. Others be damned.
 
2014-02-04 01:15:44 PM  
I'm just curious why Ronan Farrow is everywhere all of a sudden and has his own show.  He was on Bill Maher last week and was totally lost.  One of those guests who kept going back to his cue cards about the same topic even though the rest of the panel had moved on.  I get that he has pretty eyes and famous parents, but how is he so famous all of a sudden?  And I thought MSNBC wasn't giving airtime to photogenic people anymore.
 
2014-02-04 01:29:42 PM  

hasty ambush: I am not saying it did not happen but normally under our justice system burden of prove is on the accuser, there is nor should there be an exception for rape/child abuse. Right now all you have is a he said she said situation, a bitter ex and a vague reason why a DA chose not to try and prosecute. I would need more before sending a man to prison.


with little or no evidence and hearsay and he said\she said, I don't really want Woody in prison.

problem is that going by his track record, the man has done some insanely creepy shiat, and obviously likes 'em young.

Yeah, Mia may be bitter and she may have slept her way around Hollywood (honestly what starlet hasn't, Katniss maybe but I bet even she has taken one for the team), but being a star-farker is a bit removed from possible pedo accusations.

There just seems to be a bit more than smoke here and letting Woody off simply because he is Woody Allen is wrong.  I have no horse in this race (I didn't care for Woody's films even before all this stuff and don't care about Mia) but when someone says "kiddie-diddler" you look.  And look hard.  Finding nothing is one thing.

There is more to it.  Maybe Mia coerced the kid(s).  Maybe not.  Maybe she tried to help an abused kid find words.

And maybe she just hates Woody for banging her adopted daughter.
 
2014-02-04 01:35:04 PM  

mekki: And if this is the case, which, come on, look at that mug, it would mean she had an affair with Frank while he was still married. And she knew this and yet still made Allen pay for child support for him.


yeah...  that's pretty crappy.  I didn't really know that.

On the other hand, before DNA testing, if Woody HAD been banging her while Sinatra was, it's a frickin' toss of the dice who the kid belonged to, and I can't feel too bad for Woody for paying support.  If he was sleeping with Mia, even if she was also sleeping with Sinatra, then he knew the risks.

but yeah....  that totes isn't Woody's kid.
 
2014-02-04 01:50:04 PM  
I wouldn't call what I'd like to do to Cate abuse, per se. What are we talking about again?
 
2014-02-04 01:51:21 PM  

Darth Macho: s2s2s2: Jizz Master Zero: Roman has gone full throttle and won't shut up about it and here we are.

*Rowan

And...you mean the son of Frank, who Mia conceived while Frank Sr was married? Not to mention the age difference.

Mia is insane. Planting false memories in a child is pretty terrible.

The child is now 28 years old and knows the difference between false and true memories. Until this one letter she's never used a public forum to draw attention to herself. She isn't selling a book, going on TV or making money off of this.

I don't know about you, but I'm willing to take the woman at her word.


I think you misunderstand what false memories are.  Becoming an adult is not a cure, because the whole problem is that the brain is plastic enough to incorporate the false memory and convince itself that the memory is vivid and true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome
"False memory syndrome (FMS) describes a condition in which a person's identity and relationships are affected by memories which are factually incorrect but are strongly believed."

/Woody is, at least, creepy.
//Might not be a molester, though.
 
2014-02-04 01:53:43 PM  

give me doughnuts: I have vague memories of watching the Apollo 11 landings, but I can't be sure if they are my memories from when I was 5 years old, or if they are constructed from my parents telling me how we all watched in on TV.


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Understands.
 
2014-02-04 01:58:58 PM  

mekki: someonelse: frepnog: faked paternity? who cares?

Sinatra's wife, I imagine.

Also, Allen for having to pay child support

She tried to pass off this kid as Woody Allen's kid.
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And now she is being all coy and saying that it was Sinatra's kid. And if this is the case, which, come on, look at that mug, it would mean she had an affair with Frank while he was still married. And she knew this and yet still made Allen pay for child support for him.

Farrow is a notorious liar who does what she wants. Others be damned.


Is your point that the little girl deserved to be diddled?
 
2014-02-04 02:01:19 PM  

Cletus from Canuckistan: Hey everyone, did you see this yet?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-alle gations-not-so-fast.html

Did you? Did you?

Getting tired of all of Woody's white knighters posting this link on every thread about this issue. It doesn't 'debunk' the allegations Dylan is making, at all. It's kind of creepy, to be honest.


right?! let's round up a posse and go get that guy! she said he did it so he must have done it! children are never manipulated by scorned women and there certainly isn't anything weird about the alleged "confession" tape that Mia recorded over 20 years ago that clearly shows the tape being edited as it was shot.

people post that link because it pretty clearly lists the accusations, the eye-witness accounts, the court findings as far as they are known, and the holes in Mia's story and character. if you read that article and still think there is nothing fishy about her side of the story then you are the creep.

guilty until proven otherwise, right!
 
2014-02-04 02:08:26 PM  

Champion of the Sun: I'm just curious why Ronan Farrow is everywhere all of a sudden and has his own show.  He was on Bill Maher last week and was totally lost.  One of those guests who kept going back to his cue cards about the same topic even though the rest of the panel had moved on.  I get that he has pretty eyes and famous parents, but how is he so famous all of a sudden?  And I thought MSNBC wasn't giving airtime to photogenic people anymore.


He's been around for a little while.  Super smart kid at least on the intellectual side--he graduated from college at 15 and Yale Law School at 22; he did a Rhodes Scholarship a couple of years ago.  He was the youngest person to work for the State Department (21).  But like seemingly everyone else on that abominable website, he's an idiot on Twitter.
 
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