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2014-02-04 09:13:46 AM
Oh no three dollars? That stadium will be empty next season.
 
2014-02-04 09:14:21 AM
If that clears any additional seats from the 'Season Ticket Holder' list, I'll be shocked.
 
2014-02-04 09:19:47 AM
$3 is the equivalent of 1/3 of a Miller Lite. The fans are gonna be PISSED!
 
2014-02-04 09:20:48 AM
That's actually a pretty reasonable amount.
 
2014-02-04 09:23:29 AM
And even with increases each of the past three years ... the Packers are still only 17th in NFL average ticket price. The NFL is going for the 1 percent and leaving the average fan behind ... with that and the issues of concussions, etc., we may be starting to see the decline of the league.
 
2014-02-04 09:27:09 AM

DrBear: And even with increases each of the past three years ... the Packers are still only 17th in NFL average ticket price. The NFL is going for the 1 percent and leaving the average fan behind ... with that and the issues of concussions, etc., we may be starting to see the decline of the league.


Not sure a $3 increase is going to alienate existing fans and $77-$100 is pretty reasonable compared to other stadiums.
 
2014-02-04 09:39:39 AM

DrBear: And even with increases each of the past three years ... the Packers are still only 17th in NFL average ticket price. The NFL is going for the 1 percent and leaving the average fan behind ... with that and the issues of concussions, etc., we may be starting to see the decline of the league.


They are also the smallest market, so I would think they should have the lowest ticket prices.
 
2014-02-04 09:48:31 AM

DrBear: And even with increases each of the past three years ... the Packers are still only 17th in NFL average ticket price. The NFL is going for the 1 percent and leaving the average fan behind ... with that and the issues of concussions, etc., we may be starting to see the decline of the league.


The NFL just finished its first season in years with no blackouts. They're selling out stadiums at a greater rate than in the past and have an increasing TV viewership.

I'm not sure that really spells doom.


The concussion settlement will be an issue but not a deathblow. If it were increased ten-fold by a judge it'd still be less than a single year of revenue. And let's not forget that they're about to renegotiate their TV deals - and that's going to add up to stupidly huge amounts.

Rumors of its demise are greatly exaggerated. You even just had a Super Bowl that proved you can still have a hard hitting defense win games.
 
2014-02-04 09:49:38 AM

p the boiler: DrBear: And even with increases each of the past three years ... the Packers are still only 17th in NFL average ticket price. The NFL is going for the 1 percent and leaving the average fan behind ... with that and the issues of concussions, etc., we may be starting to see the decline of the league.

They are also the smallest market, so I would think they should have the lowest ticket prices.


Being in the smallest market and having the smallest fanbase are two very different things.
 
2014-02-04 09:54:31 AM

p the boiler: DrBear: And even with increases each of the past three years ... the Packers are still only 17th in NFL average ticket price. The NFL is going for the 1 percent and leaving the average fan behind ... with that and the issues of concussions, etc., we may be starting to see the decline of the league.

They are also the smallest market, so I would think they should have the lowest ticket prices.


A few years ago, the Packers did have the lowest average price in the league - and were asked by the other teams to raise prices to get with everybody else. Packers president Mark Murphy said the team has to be able to provide a fair revenue share to other teams.
 
2014-02-04 10:00:21 AM
Haha. This is news.

I think they get to play the jets next season, hopefully it's at MetLife so I can see them for cheap (as opposed to giants second market price)
 
2014-02-04 10:06:28 AM
Pretty much just keeping in line with the rest of the league. Like DrBear said, it's more for the sake of the other 31 teams than anything else. I don't think that even knocks a single person off the waiting list that wasn't dropping off anyway.
 
2014-02-04 10:29:39 AM
I will gladly pay the extra $120.00 a year.
 
2014-02-04 10:32:20 AM

Zoomaster: I will gladly pay the extra $120.00 a year.


My maths is bad

7x3x4=$84

/better yet
 
2014-02-04 10:41:26 AM
I've had Seahawks tickets for 10 years now.  I think only twice have the prices not gone up.

I expect a nice bump this year.

Cost of winning.
 
2014-02-04 11:29:26 AM
I'm sure it's still cheaper for me to drive from Indiana to Green Bay to see the Bears play, than it is for me to go to Soldier Field.
 
2014-02-04 11:34:57 AM

abhorrent1: Oh no three dollars? That stadium will be empty next season.



the key is not to raise prices too quickly.  do it gradually so the sheeple won't notice.  over time, you can clean their clocks (and wallets)

hey, someone has to keep the NFL rolling in the 9.5 Billion of tax free revenue last year.
 
2014-02-04 11:35:26 AM

Deneb81: The NFL just finished its first season in years with no blackouts.


Not quite (two links for same blackout).
 
2014-02-04 11:38:20 AM

Linux_Yes: hey, someone has to keep the NFL rolling in the 9.5 Billion of tax free revenue last year.


:rolls eyes

Do you have to turn every NFL thread into the same discussion about how the teams do pay tax on all that revenue, and only the league office is non-profit and tax-free?
 
2014-02-04 12:05:40 PM

skrame: Linux_Yes: hey, someone has to keep the NFL rolling in the 9.5 Billion of tax free revenue last year.

:rolls eyes

Do you have to turn every NFL thread into the same discussion about how the teams do pay tax on all that revenue, and only the league office is non-profit and tax-free?


the "league office" didn't pay taxes on ~500 million last year.   do your homework, dinky.
 
2014-02-04 12:07:42 PM

skrame: Linux_Yes: hey, someone has to keep the NFL rolling in the 9.5 Billion of tax free revenue last year.

:rolls eyes

Do you have to turn every NFL thread into the same discussion about how the teams do pay tax on all that revenue, and only the league office is non-profit and tax-free?



http://swampland.time.com/2014/02/03/white-house-punts-on-nfl-tax-qu es tion/
 
2014-02-04 12:10:56 PM
man, you Farkers are naive.  you all should get out more.  learn some things about the Nation you claim to Love.
 
2014-02-04 12:21:19 PM

Deneb81: The NFL just finished its first season in years with no blackouts. They're selling out stadiums at a greater rate than in the past and have an increasing TV viewership.

I'm not sure that really spells doom.


About that...
pbs.twimg.com

The NFL is letting a lot of stuff slide now when it comes to blackouts.
 
2014-02-04 12:31:24 PM

mjohnson71: Deneb81: The NFL just finished its first season in years with no blackouts. They're selling out stadiums at a greater rate than in the past and have an increasing TV viewership.

I'm not sure that really spells doom.

About that...
[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]

The NFL is letting a lot of stuff slide now when it comes to blackouts.



well done!   those networks are masters of illusion.  i've heard about all those empty seats that very few know about.  they're pricing themselves out of the market.
 
2014-02-04 12:33:06 PM

Zoomaster: I will gladly pay the extra $120.00 a year.



and they will gladly take it.   and take it from the other 60+ thousand sheeple too.   and tax free too!   god they love Freedom.


http://swampland.time.com/2014/02/03/white-house-punts-on-nfl-tax-qu es tion/
 
2014-02-04 12:41:14 PM

Linux_Yes: mjohnson71: Deneb81: The NFL just finished its first season in years with no blackouts. They're selling out stadiums at a greater rate than in the past and have an increasing TV viewership.

I'm not sure that really spells doom.

About that...
[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]

The NFL is letting a lot of stuff slide now when it comes to blackouts.


well done!   those networks are masters of illusion.  i've heard about all those empty seats that very few know about.  they're pricing themselves out of the market.


Other places like Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa Bay, San Diego, St. Louis and Atlanta had plenty of empty seats but no blackouts.

And didn't like 3 of 4 wild card games (including Green Bay) need help to sell out?
 
2014-02-04 01:13:21 PM
$3? The greediness of those corporate fat cat who own the Packer!
 
2014-02-04 01:55:42 PM

Linux_Yes: the "league office" didn't pay taxes on ~500 million last year. do your homework, dinky.


Dinky? I guess intelligent conversation is out of the question.

On the topic of taxes, I'm not against taking away the league's exemption if the law considers that profit. I don't know if profit is technically money kept or money paid to employees; I'm not a tax lawyer or member of congress (thank God).

My issue is that you constantly bring it up in threads that aren't about the issue (and there have been plenty of those), and you wrongly stated they didn't pay taxes on over 9 billion in revenue, which is false. I'm really glad you moved the goalposts and switched your argument to 500 million though.
 
2014-02-04 02:46:29 PM

mjohnson71: Linux_Yes: mjohnson71: Deneb81: The NFL just finished its first season in years with no blackouts. They're selling out stadiums at a greater rate than in the past and have an increasing TV viewership.

I'm not sure that really spells doom.

About that...
[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]

The NFL is letting a lot of stuff slide now when it comes to blackouts.


well done!   those networks are masters of illusion.  i've heard about all those empty seats that very few know about.  they're pricing themselves out of the market.

Other places like Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa Bay, San Diego, St. Louis and Atlanta had plenty of empty seats but no blackouts.

And didn't like 3 of 4 wild card games (including Green Bay) need help to sell out?


i don't know, but i do know they've been playing down the lower attendence in the press.  i think part of it is economy and the other part is they are gradually pricing themselves out of business.  its great to have wealthy people paying 1500 for a super bowl ticket, but that is only 1 time per year.  the rest of the games are filled by the middle/lower/working classes.  that is where the real profits are.  but greed takes over and the clowns at the top don't realize they're pulling the artificial turf out from under themselves.

same applies to the nation as a whole.  the rich don't pour their money into the economy. they stash it here and in overseas tax shelters.  increasing min. wage will cause the lower/working/middle class people to spend more in the economy and cause it to grow.

the folks at the top are not as smart as they think they are.
 
2014-02-04 02:50:30 PM

skrame: Linux_Yes: the "league office" didn't pay taxes on ~500 million last year. do your homework, dinky.

Dinky? I guess intelligent conversation is out of the question.

On the topic of taxes, I'm not against taking away the league's exemption if the law considers that profit. I don't know if profit is technically money kept or money paid to employees; I'm not a tax lawyer or member of congress (thank God).

My issue is that you constantly bring it up in threads that aren't about the issue (and there have been plenty of those), and you wrongly stated they didn't pay taxes on over 9 billion in revenue, which is false. I'm really glad you moved the goalposts and switched your argument to 500 million though.



why don't you tell the two republican senators (one from Utah and one from Oklahoma) that their new bill to change this practice of the NFL, NHL and PGA Tour does not have any merit.

i'm sure you know more about it than they or their tax lawyers do.  show them the errors in their ways.   lol
 
2014-02-04 03:13:51 PM

Linux_Yes: skrame: Linux_Yes: hey, someone has to keep the NFL rolling in the 9.5 Billion of tax free revenue last year.

:rolls eyes

Do you have to turn every NFL thread into the same discussion about how the teams do pay tax on all that revenue, and only the league office is non-profit and tax-free?

the "league office" didn't pay taxes on ~500 million last year.   do your homework, dinky.


Funny...their tax return says they lost $77.6 million last year.

http://990finder.foundationcenter.org/990results.aspx?990_type=&fn=N at ional+Football+League&st=NY&zp=10154&ei=&fy=&action=Find
 
2014-02-04 03:36:40 PM

Cataholic: Linux_Yes: skrame: Linux_Yes: hey, someone has to keep the NFL rolling in the 9.5 Billion of tax free revenue last year.

:rolls eyes

Do you have to turn every NFL thread into the same discussion about how the teams do pay tax on all that revenue, and only the league office is non-profit and tax-free?

the "league office" didn't pay taxes on ~500 million last year.   do your homework, dinky.

Funny...their tax return says they lost $77.6 million last year.

http://990finder.foundationcenter.org/990results.aspx?990_type=&fn=N at ional+Football+League&st=NY&zp=10154&ei=&fy=&action=Find



funny.  this and tens of other articles beg to differ.  stats can be read in all kinds of ways.  just ask any tax lawyer.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nfl-enjoys-non-profit-status/

cheers!
 
2014-02-04 03:36:44 PM

Linux_Yes: mjohnson71: Linux_Yes: mjohnson71: Deneb81: The NFL just finished its first season in years with no blackouts. They're selling out stadiums at a greater rate than in the past and have an increasing TV viewership.

I'm not sure that really spells doom.

About that...
[pbs.twimg.com image 568x426]

The NFL is letting a lot of stuff slide now when it comes to blackouts.


well done!   those networks are masters of illusion.  i've heard about all those empty seats that very few know about.  they're pricing themselves out of the market.

Other places like Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa Bay, San Diego, St. Louis and Atlanta had plenty of empty seats but no blackouts.

And didn't like 3 of 4 wild card games (including Green Bay) need help to sell out?

i don't know, but i do know they've been playing down the lower attendence in the press.  i think part of it is economy and the other part is they are gradually pricing themselves out of business.  its great to have wealthy people paying 1500 for a super bowl ticket, but that is only 1 time per year.  the rest of the games are filled by the middle/lower/working classes.  that is where the real profits are.  but greed takes over and the clowns at the top don't realize they're pulling the artificial turf out from under themselves.

same applies to the nation as a whole.  the rich don't pour their money into the economy. they stash it here and in overseas tax shelters.  increasing min. wage will cause the lower/working/middle class people to spend more in the economy and cause it to grow.

the folks at the top are not as smart as they think they are.


I totally agree with you. Attending pro sports is being priced out of the reach of the average American. They'd better be careful.

Plus, IMHO, football is better to watch at home. Of the 4 major US sports hockey is the only one that is better appreciated live.
 
2014-02-04 03:53:57 PM
Holy crap this thread got annoying
 
2014-02-04 04:04:38 PM

mjohnson71: Of the 4 major US sports hockey is the only one that is better appreciated live.


Baseball on a nice day with good seats is, too.

/basketball if you're courtside
//football only if it's a huge game
 
2014-02-04 05:47:00 PM

flak attack: p the boiler: DrBear: And even with increases each of the past three years ... the Packers are still only 17th in NFL average ticket price. The NFL is going for the 1 percent and leaving the average fan behind ... with that and the issues of concussions, etc., we may be starting to see the decline of the league.

They are also the smallest market, so I would think they should have the lowest ticket prices.

Being in the smallest market and having the smallest fanbase are two very different things.


Given how long the waiting list is for Packers season tickets, they are probably under-priced if the goal is simply to maximize ticket revenue.
 
2014-02-04 05:49:53 PM

Linux_Yes: skrame: Linux_Yes: the "league office" didn't pay taxes on ~500 million last year. do your homework, dinky.

Dinky? I guess intelligent conversation is out of the question.

On the topic of taxes, I'm not against taking away the league's exemption if the law considers that profit. I don't know if profit is technically money kept or money paid to employees; I'm not a tax lawyer or member of congress (thank God).

My issue is that you constantly bring it up in threads that aren't about the issue (and there have been plenty of those), and you wrongly stated they didn't pay taxes on over 9 billion in revenue, which is false. I'm really glad you moved the goalposts and switched your argument to 500 million though.


why don't you tell the two republican senators (one from Utah and one from Oklahoma) that their new bill to change this practice of the NFL, NHL and PGA Tour does not have any merit.

i'm sure you know more about it than they or their tax lawyers do.  show them the errors in their ways.   lol


I guess we can continue this conversation when you learn to farking read. I said I'm fine with it if the legal powers-that-be say it's the right decision, and claimed not to know as much as them. My issue is that you're a thread-shiatter. Also, two Republican senators? I'm convinced; they are never responsible for any stupid legislation.

thecpt: Holy crap this thread got annoying


Sorry; normally I enjoy annoying Packer fans, but not like this.

/not like this
 
2014-02-04 07:44:12 PM
Where the fark is this nebulous $500 million figure coming from?  Everything I've read does not show any income being generated by the league office.  It's all brought in from 33 entities - the 32 teams that pay income taxes, and the for-profit corporation called NFL Ventures.  NFL Ventures, by the way, has an income much larger than $500 million, but pays taxes.

So we're back to square one.  This whole issue about "the league being tax-exempt" is complete and utter bullshiat.
 
2014-02-05 07:27:49 PM
The low number of blackouts was propped up by a few rich-person buyouts, including Mr. Ralph Wilson and Mr. Russ Salvatore. The Bills' "home" game in Toronto is exempt because no one wants to buy nosebleed seats for $250 and a blackout of that game would result in full-on fan mutiny.

The Jags put a big plastic baggie on their upper deck. When you look behind the curtain, there's a lot that points to the regular fan's being priced out.
 
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