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(World Review)   Sochi is Russia's face to the world. But beneath the modern veneer lies an immense rotting rustbelt - Soviet-era monotowns. Full of unemployment, pollution and despair - these monoliths are a damning indictment of Russia's crumbling economy   (worldreview.info ) divider line
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2014-02-04 12:52:09 PM  
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2014-02-04 12:56:45 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: [wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 630x420]


Is there some reason you posted that image in this thread?
 
2014-02-04 01:12:20 PM  
Mono = one
Town = town
 
2014-02-04 01:32:43 PM  

FormlessOne: Full of unemployment, pollution and despair - these monoliths are a damning indictment of Russia's the Soviet Union's crumbling economy

FTFY. Artificial towns built by the Soviet Union to desperately keep an illusion alive? Not Russia's fault. Russia != Soviet Union. Blaming Russia, today, for the Soviet Union's past failures is like blaming Obama for the recession caused by the Dubya Debacle. Russia merely inherited the problem.


True, but instead of trying to fix the problem through change, Russia is doubling down and continuing to paste them together with spit and vodak flavored chewing gum in the hopes that no one notices how bad things actually are.
 
2014-02-04 01:47:17 PM  

signaljammer: Capitalism doesn't have to be incompatible  with regulation; who thinks that a business that needs to harm the environment to function, for example, is really profitable?


So long as by "Capitalism" you don't mean "laissez-faire," you may have a point.  By its very definition, however, laissez-faire is incompatible with environmental regulation.
 
2014-02-04 01:50:18 PM  

machoprogrammer: LarryDan43: Unpossible, Putin is a conservative hero.

I doubt it. They hate that he is a commie. His anti-homosexual stance would likely not be enough to sway their opinion


It's not exactly Poe's Law, but I have to wonder, when you say Putin is "a commie," is that meant as sarcasm, trolling, or do you genuinely see it that way?

In another context it might be obvious, but here in a Fark thread it's a tough call.
 
2014-02-04 01:50:18 PM  

signaljammer: who thinks that a business that needs to harm the environment to function, for example, is really profitable?


Every business on Earth that pollutes because of lax regulations and enforcement.

Also conservatives and "libertarians" who demand lax regulations and enforcement.
 
2014-02-04 01:53:09 PM  

Silly_Sot: RussianPooper: [media-files.gathermedia.info image 550x412]

Dear extremely stupid waste of DNA: FLINT IS ATYPICAL FOR THE USA AND IT IS WRITTEN OFF AS DEAD BY THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

I realize that you are an idiot, but try to understand that the USA has left behind this model of production and left it behind decades ago.

Let me guess, you still whine over the Burning of the Valleys campaign in upstate New York.


Have you considered switching to decaff?
 
2014-02-04 02:00:41 PM  

Dimensio: I do not understand. The nation of Russia does not allow same-sex marriage, and has even taken measures to make homosexuals unwelcome within the nation. Why, then, is that nation's economy not prosperous?


That's just the distraction being used to give the people someone to hate and persecute instead of their government.

Hitler did the same thing with the Jews.

We've had presidents do the same thing with the "commies", and then the "terrorists".

Meanwhile the respective nations are exploited for the wealth and power of a few.
 
2014-02-04 02:19:20 PM  
I read this headline in the voice of John Cleese
 
2014-02-04 02:29:40 PM  
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2014-02-04 02:34:12 PM  

bbfreak: some_beer_drinker: ...and amurika is any different?

Yes. America may have its problems, but it can always rely on not being as bad as Russia.

True, we face some of the same problems as them. Aging infrastructure, unemployment, corruption, but none of it is on the scale that the Russian's are facing it.

Of course, they are still very much suffering from the effects of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Also, brain drain from the 90's.

Meanwhile we are suffering from our own greed. The economy didn't have to crash in 2008, it was totally preventable. Companies didn't have to outsource so much so quickly either, but great American companies like Walmart made sure that that happened. Of course, automation is bringing back manufacturing to the US. Only you need strong math skills now and fewer workers.

Anyway, I guess my point is that the US will hit a wall soon enough too. Our failing education system, the rise of automation/robots, and the fact that social mobility in this country is not very good to say the least. Eventually that means we're going to be left with mass unemployment and no jobs unless we do something now. Thanks Republicans.


Depends on you definition of problem.. the US has significantly more homicides and certainly more gun violence than Russia and their popultion is significantly less.
 
2014-02-04 02:49:33 PM  
 
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2014-02-04 04:37:31 PM  

bratface: Sochi in a few years?


http://www.businessinsider.com/abandoned-venues-1984-sarajevo-olympi cs -2013-11?op=1

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It's weird, but I find decaying infrastructure like that to be pretty beautiful. Just seeing how nature takes it over again, and all the plants and mosses break apart the cement. I'd love to take a walk there.

One of the comments to that article mentions that only 2 of the 4 mountains are decaying, while two have been rebuilt and are currently being used:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1086537

Also, Yugoslavia had a really long and terrible civil war. Although Sochi isn't in a very stable region, so who knows (still, it's unlikely that anything as bad as Yugoslavia's breakup would happen).
 
2014-02-04 08:39:06 PM  
And to think, Rio De Janiero is host to the Olympics after this one. Now, if you wanna talk about super-wealthy vs. soul-crushingly poor...............

Pretty sure though Sochi has more than enough krokodil and heroin-addled skeletons that they're gonna shove on out just before international cameras really start rolling in.
 
2014-02-05 03:25:24 AM  
it's exactly like parts of the united states.
 
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