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(NBC News)   Obama says Bill O'Reilly was unfair to him. The left agrees with him while the right says he is a wuss   (nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com ) divider line
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2014-02-04 10:16:08 AM  
4 votes:

mrshowrules: Headso: fox news is an activist group for the republican party, why even bother legitimizing them by being interviewed on there? He could have easily been interviewed on any network by any right wing kook as some kind of special.

Roger Ailes pulls the strings and the Republican party serve him.


That's the thing about modern 'conservatives'  For all their whining and petulant wailing about 'freedom', bless them, they really DO need to be told what to think and what to do.  They have an inherent NEED for someone to 'be in charge' of their lives.  Some of them will say 'God's in control of my life'.  But that's not true.  It's their carefully selected priest or pastor interpreting a book for them.  The priest is telling them what to do. Some will say "I'm in command of my own ship!  I owe nothing to anybody!"  Which of course isn't true either.

With conservatives, there's always a deep-seated need for someone to tell them what to think, and what to do. This is why they come off sounding so combative in debates.  Because they don't know WHY they believe what they believe, only that someone they admire said that their world view is right. They can't explain their ideas in any kind of logical way, other than 'well, you must not know what you're talking about!"
2014-02-04 12:11:05 PM  
3 votes:

Jackson Herring: jesus he really said that

he asked the president if he is the most liberal liberal ever to lib

farking human garbage


Obama should have responded:
"But that's the narrative your network and the Republican party has to push, isn't it?  Just as Kerry, Gore, and Clinton were the most extreme liberal to ever seek office.  The fact is, Bill, that no matter whom is the next person to be the Democratic party nominee for president he or she will automatically be the most extreme liberal to the far right regardless of their actual views or documented record.  As will the person after that.  And the person after that.  You're entire narrative depends on convincing that the current person is the most extreme unAmerican candidate ever."
2014-02-04 10:04:12 AM  
3 votes:

Diogenes: I'm going to have to ding Obama on this one.  It would have only been truly unfair if he didn't know what he was walking into.  We all knew what he was walking into.

I get doing this as a means to appear fair.  But this little fiasco only proves it inevitably does the opposite.


He didn't mean 'during the interview.'

FTFA:
"[Obama said O'Reilly] has been "absolutely" unfair to him throughout his presidency"
2014-02-04 09:46:53 AM  
3 votes:

stpauler: The problem is, unless your viewpoint agrees with O'Reilly's from the outset,the interview won't be "fair". It will be that person trying to talk over Bill to be heard. This isn't new.


Seriously... aside from his stupid line of questioning, the most amazing thing was, he was just cutting off the President of the United States left and right. That's just unprofessional.
2014-02-04 09:06:17 AM  
2 votes:
FTFA: "In a lot of ways Richard Nixon was more liberal than I was," Obama said. "He started the EPA, started a whole lot of the regulatory state that has helped keep our air and water clean."Obama's comments came in response to O'Reilly asking him if he was "the most liberal president of all time." Obama also listed Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson as presidents who were also more liberal than him.

Kinda. Nixon's effort to consolidate and systematize existing offices was overtaken in ways he did not favor but could not stop since Congress overrode his veto in 72. But yeah, I would consider FDR, LBJ and Truman probably more "liberal." Of course, times and the landscape have changed a lot in political discourse since then, so its a bit apples to oranges.
2014-02-04 08:23:34 AM  
2 votes:
Liberal vs Conservative is a false dichotomy.

Not everything fits into that retarded worldview.
2014-02-04 11:59:03 AM  
1 vote:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: And it's not a dangerous project. Moving fuel by pipe line is the safest way to move it. You want to keep moving it by boat?!


You mean the Keystone XL pipeline which is to shorten the existing route and won't actually change the means by which the oil is transported through the US?
keystone-xl.com
Wow, look at all those water routes they'll be avoiding by cutting through Montana instead of Manitoba and North Dakota.
2014-02-04 11:51:21 AM  
1 vote:
If you grant an opinion show to interview you,, Mr. President, you're gunna have a bad time.
2014-02-04 11:48:19 AM  
1 vote:

Because People in power are Stupid: Liberal vs Conservative is a false dichotomy.

Not everything fits into that retarded worldview.


We need to abandon it completely. Although I catch myself still falling into partisan nonsense from time to time, I'm trying to pull myself out of that frame. It just doesn't work, and even if one side is worse than the other, it's still not productive to quibble over it. Issues are issues and they have answers, everything gets muddied with an us vs them mentality.
2014-02-04 10:38:29 AM  
1 vote:

ko_kyi: He should go on MSNBC where people can ask questions like, "Some think you just care too much for the American people, how do you respond to that?"


like when O'Reilly interviewed Bush?

How many times did the chickenhawks Bush or Cheney get interviewed by an MSNBC host?
They were afraid of Maddow even though she constantly asked them to be on.
2014-02-04 10:36:50 AM  
1 vote:

serpent_sky: Seriously... aside from his stupid line of questioning, the most amazing thing was, he was just cutting off the President of the United States left and right. That's just unprofessional.


I would say the most amazing thing was that Obama fell for that crap again.  Remember when Hannity interviewed him and did the EXACT SAME THING?  Quit talking to these Fox morons.  They're not there for an interview, they're just going to try to bully and talk over you, because that's what their audience wants to see.
2014-02-04 10:34:23 AM  
1 vote:
My recommendation to any future POTUS, no matter your party affiliation, is to not use Richard Nixon as your litmus test for how to act while in office.
2014-02-04 10:31:29 AM  
1 vote:
jesus he really said that

he asked the president if he is the most liberal liberal ever to lib

farking human garbage
2014-02-04 10:16:26 AM  
1 vote:
Why can't it be both?  I'm on the left - he's absolutely right, Fox News has been wildly unfair to him.  Also, he's a giant wuss.  I would have loved to see him come out and attack O'Reilly for all of the unfair shiat he has done over the years.  I'm sure The Daily Show would have been happy to give him some material.
2014-02-04 10:15:20 AM  
1 vote:

A Cave Geek: I don't know.  I only watched about five minutes of it, but from what I could see, Obama was handing Bill his ass.  What did I miss?


Putting on your rose colored glasses, I would guess.
2014-02-04 10:12:58 AM  
1 vote:
Bill was a repugnant, and disrespectful dick to Obama. He'd ask a specific question, then get a specific answer, then ask for a general answer, and get that, too. Pretty sure the idea was "Get my specific question on tape, then ask for a more vague answer, and splice the specific question to make it look like the vague answer was given to that. Then playback the edit on my show and biatch about how I couldn't get a straight answer."
Bf+
2014-02-04 10:11:37 AM  
1 vote:

Because People in power are Stupid: Liberal vs Conservative is a false dichotomy.

Not everything fits into that retarded worldview.



...so vote Republican
2014-02-04 10:10:05 AM  
1 vote:

ko_kyi: He should go on MSNBC where people can ask questions like, "Some think you just care too much for the American people, how do you respond to that?"


Why not? That question has as much substance as any question about Benghazi.
2014-02-04 10:03:24 AM  
1 vote:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Headso: fox news is an activist group for the republican party, why even bother legitimizing them by being interviewed on there? He could have easily been interviewed on any network by any right wing kook as some kind of special.

I'm working off the assumption you think anyone who could be defined as right wing is also a kook.

I'm not sure that's true. What "right wing kook" from MSNBC would you tap for that interview? What "right wing kook" from CNN? NBC? CBS? Really if you want to get an interview with someone that won't pitch you softballs you have to go with the opposition. And at least with Bill you have someone who is honest enough to tell you exactly where he stands on every single topic you are about to discuss. As he tells people over and over again (well he use to, it's been a while since I watched) his program is an opinion based program. If the Administration was caught off guard by any of this that is a failure of his staff. Which wouldn't be the first time they got caught flat footed.


Scarborough for MSNBC or Erickson for CNN.

This is fun! What even nominal liberal works for Fox?
2014-02-04 08:43:38 AM  
1 vote:
The problem is, unless your viewpoint agrees with O'Reilly's from the outset,the interview won't be "fair". It will be that person trying to talk over Bill to be heard. This isn't new.
2014-02-04 08:39:47 AM  
1 vote:

vpb: Because People in power are Stupid: Liberal vs Conservative is a false dichotomy.

Not everything fits into that retarded worldview.

You must not watch much Fox news.


He did say it's a retarded world view, so I suspect he has.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-02-04 08:29:33 AM  
1 vote:

Because People in power are Stupid: Liberal vs Conservative is a false dichotomy.

Not everything fits into that retarded worldview.


You must not watch much Fox news.
 
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