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(Daily Mail)   McDonald's reveals Chicken McNuggets are actually made out REAL chicken. No, really   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 29
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2014-02-03 09:27:45 PM  
5 votes:

Therion: so the article is declaring that this

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x409]

is more palatable than this?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x630]

Keep farking that chicken, McDonalds.


In that the former looks like ground meat and the latter looks like unnatural "pink goop," yes. The first one is entirely more palatable.
2014-02-03 11:25:00 PM  
3 votes:
Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.
2014-02-03 09:05:59 PM  
3 votes:
so the article is declaring that this

i.dailymail.co.uk

is more palatable than this?

i.dailymail.co.uk

Keep farking that chicken, McDonalds.
2014-02-03 11:34:16 PM  
2 votes:
McDonalds Canada switched to "real chicken" years ago, so it's not really surprising that they filmed this in a Canadian plant to answer a question from a Canadian customer. Notice that by not mentioning whether plants in other countries make them the same way (or whether this plant ships internationally) they're implying that this is the case everywhere, but I wouldn't bet on it.
2014-02-03 10:15:42 PM  
2 votes:

Therion: so the article is declaring that this

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x409]

is more palatable than this?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x630]

Keep farking that chicken, McDonalds.


Well, yeah. One is chicken with clear steps on how it got there and the other is an unidentified pink slime.
2014-02-03 09:07:39 PM  
2 votes:
Duh. The pink goo is "beef".
2014-02-03 09:03:19 PM  
2 votes:
cf2.foodista.com

obligatory
2014-02-04 07:56:08 PM  
1 votes:

peeledpeas: People keep getting all outraged at McD's when Burger King is far grosser and getting away with it.


THIS
2014-02-04 09:36:29 AM  
1 votes:

bluenovaman: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: bluenovaman: Iplaybass: bluenovaman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Technically, beaks, feet, and feathers are chicken


I told my son that all beef includes eyes and butt to get him to stop begging me to take him there.  Worked like a charm.  Now he wants nothing to do with fast food.

/I still get my grease fix at lunch

This is what's wrong with parents these days.

You should have just told him no rather than feeding him misinformation.

Spoken like a farker who has never left his mom's basement.

No, that isn't how normal parents behave.  Most of us make rules and our kids follow them or there are consequences to deal with.  You know, kind of like the real world.  It helps them learn how to grow up to be responsible adults.  We don't just lie to them to get them to shut up and then sneak out and allow ourselves pleasures that we deny them because reasons.

So no Santa or easter bunny for your kids, got it.


Don't get off track.  The point is, you're a dick to your kids.
2014-02-04 08:09:28 AM  
1 votes:

bluenovaman: Iplaybass: bluenovaman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Technically, beaks, feet, and feathers are chicken


I told my son that all beef includes eyes and butt to get him to stop begging me to take him there.  Worked like a charm.  Now he wants nothing to do with fast food.

/I still get my grease fix at lunch

This is what's wrong with parents these days.

You should have just told him no rather than feeding him misinformation.

Spoken like a farker who has never left his mom's basement.


No, that isn't how normal parents behave.  Most of us make rules and our kids follow them or there are consequences to deal with.  You know, kind of like the real world.  It helps them learn how to grow up to be responsible adults.  We don't just lie to them to get them to shut up and then sneak out and allow ourselves pleasures that we deny them because reasons.
2014-02-04 06:34:31 AM  
1 votes:

Iplaybass: bluenovaman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Technically, beaks, feet, and feathers are chicken


I told my son that all beef includes eyes and butt to get him to stop begging me to take him there.  Worked like a charm.  Now he wants nothing to do with fast food.

/I still get my grease fix at lunch

This is what's wrong with parents these days.

You should have just told him no rather than feeding him misinformation.


Spoken like a farker who has never left his mom's basement.
2014-02-04 02:05:53 AM  
1 votes:
They used to make them out of all sorts of leftover crap scraped off the meat processing plant floor (just like you've seen on Food Revolution).

But surprise! Food Revolution wasn't helping McD's already damaged reputation, so NOW they've switched to all white meat nuggets. It's a marketing thing. I doubt it will last five years before random sh*t starts creeping back in he nuggets.

We can call it "profit margin creep" if you guys like.
2014-02-04 02:04:12 AM  
1 votes:
InterruptingQuirk

Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.

Agreed.

Sometime back I biatched that macaroni factories had found a way to recycle their 'factory seconds', meaning boxes full of edible pasta which could not be sold because of misprints, slight damage and so on. They donated tons to Charities who fed the poor. Now, they can grind up the contents, mix it in with fresh dough, and recycle it.

That means much less free food for the needy.

I got chastised soundly for complaining about a way to recycle food that helped bring the cost down.

A bit later, I biatched that grocery stores no longer include the neck, gizzards, liver or heart in whole chickens. Instead, the neck is sold to pet food companies, the gizzards and livers are packed in bulk containers for separate sales and the hearts often are sold to companies who use chicken parts to make processed chicken patties.

So, the consumer looses out. I recall many a Mom, when I was a kid, hoarding the livers, hearts, necks and gizzards. Necks and livers often went into soup broth. Livers and gizzards and hearts were often fried up with onions and butter for a tasty meal.

I had noticed the exploding cost of whole chickens, which used to be one of the cheapest meats available.

I got chastised again for disagreeing with free enterprise that allowed companies to make greater profits off the same product.

I was also lectured on how much food is wasted by everyone.

So, now it's cheaper to buy bags of frozen chicken parts, injected with water, broth and/or sugar for flavor and thighs now come with great gobs of fat left on to increase the bulk weight.

So, businesses started recycling assorted byproducts they would normally dispose of and most folks never even noticed. Scraps of less popular meats get pulverized, mixed with assorted fillers, seasoned and sold as cheap burgers, patties, meatloaf's, sausage filling. Bones get sold for fertilizer additives or, occasionally, to make soup.

Companies waste less.

'Dirty Jobs' showed how a crab meat company packed the prime sections in cans, then processed the scraps in the shells, normally tossed out, into a crab filling, seasoned it and sold it mainly to restaurants. There was even a market for the calcium rich shells.

Fish scraps from assorted fish, normally tossed out or sold to pet food places, are processed into artificial crab and lobster meat, tinted with dyes to resemble the real stuff, flavored and sold cheaper than the real thing.

This, from what I understand, was supposed to be a good thing. Less waste. More food. Cheaper prices, bigger profits. A win-win situation.

Another company collect deceased, rotting farm animals from farmers, processes them into huge vats of oil and tons of basically minced meat. The oils are sold to companies who make soaps and lubricants. The now sterile, mixed meats are drained and sold to pet food companies. The hides are sold to various leather companies.

A nice savings from animals useless for food or anything else, which would have been left to rot or just buried.

After the Organic Craze hit, this all changed. Suddenly recycling once thrown out, edible parts was a bad thing. A good thing was grass raised, free range, non-antibiotic or steroid injected meats. Only the best cuts, no fillers.
At 4 times the price of conventionally raised meat.

Fish Farms were the thing of the future. Cheaper, more plentiful seafood. They were fed food pellets made from assorted meat and vegetable scraps, including the processed, dead bodies of other fish.

Now, its bad, not all that healthy, the land locked farms consume too much water and the fish often swim in a soup of their own waste, requiring antibiotics to be added to the waters. Natural, free range is the best. However, natural fish cost three times as much as farmed and the stocks are being wiped out.

Commercial trawlers rip up the seabed and diminish the schools of other fish accidentally hauled in. (Bycatch.) Most are tossed back, but are either outright killed in the other tons of fish in the net or damaged so that they die shortly after.

Look how Tuna went from an affordable food to one fish costing tens of thousands of dollars as the schools steadily diminish.
So, pretty much anything the food industry does to stretch the limited supply, cut waste, keep prices low comes down to 'Damned if you do and damned if you don't.)

BTW. I've had real hotdogs. To me, they taste more like chewy sausage than hotdogs. They're much more expensive also.
2014-02-04 01:43:35 AM  
1 votes:
People keep getting all outraged at McD's when Burger King is far grosser and getting away with it.
2014-02-04 01:26:50 AM  
1 votes:

costermonger: queezyweezel: txchad: or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!

Time/Money/Quality triangle.  McD's offers 20 nuggets for $5 out the door.  Try doing that yourself with $5 in ingredients (including the oil, and associated setup, cleanup, and tear down), paying yourself labor, and doing it in under 3 minutes.

How much does it really cost to do it yourself?  $15-$20 by my estimate.

Applying this metric to cooking as a whole will lead somebody to eat fast food until it kills them.

Aside from that, considering the cost of your own labour isn't valid unless there's a real opportunity cost - ie, instead of spending that time cooking, you could have actually gotten paid to do something else.


Agreed, this is also why the idea of "motherhood is a job" falls flat on it's face. During that time that you're changing juniors nappy, could you have actually gotten paid to do something else?
2014-02-04 12:58:32 AM  
1 votes:

apoptotic: McDonalds Canada switched to "real chicken" years ago, so it's not really surprising that they filmed this in a Canadian plant to answer a question from a Canadian customer. Notice that by not mentioning whether plants in other countries make them the same way (or whether this plant ships internationally) they're implying that this is the case everywhere, but I wouldn't bet on it.


THIS!!!!! SO MUCH THIS!

/exactly
2014-02-04 12:09:00 AM  
1 votes:
or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!
2014-02-03 11:59:39 PM  
1 votes:
 This is a stupid thread. You have one camp talking "oh I don't eat McDs" and another saying "WTF it's chicken parts".

Okay...you take chicken parts and grind them to paste and put some Carregean as a binder (because you can't really use egg products to avoid alergy stuff). So you basically have a chicken paste with some gell as a binder, then you form those and after a spray of a cornstarch water mix and dust with a light crunchy bit of corn flake type things ground down to coating give them a flash freeze and bag them.

Those get put in a deep fryer with Canola oil and you have Mc Nuggets.

Or if you have a Molecular Gastronomy type Restaurant.  You freeze them in liquid nitrogen and flash fry them and serve with a beet foam and charge 50 bucks for 6.
2014-02-03 11:52:41 PM  
1 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.


Yeah!  I mean, fluck us for learning which parts actually had nutritional value and not building houses out of bones.  amirite?
2014-02-03 11:29:40 PM  
1 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.


Noble savages?! How about our grandparents who lived on the farm?

If McNuggets are icky, what about scrapple and haggis and meatballs and meatloaf and ... ?
2014-02-03 11:20:54 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-02-03 11:12:05 PM  
1 votes:

Zeno-25: Funny how they advertise the nuggets as being made of 100% breast meat, but they would taste better if they contained a certain proportion of dark meat as well.

Americans are stupid and like bland, flavorless food though, so sell 100% white breast meat at a premium in the US because it gives a false sense of quality and then ship the dark meat over to Asia where they appreciate its superior flavor and make even more money that way.

McNuggets used to be a combination of white and dark meat.


Not this one, as since I can get boneless, skinless chicken thighs, that is what I go with.  For chicken soup, I use thigh leg quarters and boil them till the meat falls off the bone, then pull out bones and skins before adding the rest of the ingredients.  I don't mind them charging more for the breast, that keeps the rest cheaper for me.
2014-02-03 11:04:11 PM  
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: All chickens aren't equal.  They still use birds that can't turn around and spend their entire life shiatting on the bird in the cage below them.


Why the shiat would you put fryer birds (or whatever they are) in cages? It's not like there are eggs to collect.
2014-02-03 10:59:23 PM  
1 votes:
Miasma of javascript libraries... or just link to the youtube..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5PaSqKD6k
2014-02-03 10:58:59 PM  
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: All chickens aren't equal.  They still use birds that can't turn around and spend their entire life shiatting on the bird in the cage below them.


As long as the McDonald's worker doesn't forget the BBQ sauce, I don't care.
2014-02-03 09:50:41 PM  
1 votes:

brantgoose: Jews could not eat McDo Chicken McNuggets if they contained that much blood.


Yes they could. Nothing would happen. No lightning bolts, no earthquakes, nothing.
2014-02-03 09:36:20 PM  
1 votes:
If you have a meat grinder and a rolling pin, you can make your own chicken McNuggets at home. You just need to find some cookie cutters shaped like a ball, a bell, a boot and a bow tie. In other words, Christmas cookie cutters: round, bell, Christmas stockin and bow ties.

If that pink goop is meat at all, it is clearly almost completely fat with a bit of blood, chicken hearts or liver adding the pink. I can't imagine anybody eating that without knowing the difference between it and ground chicken breast. Have you ever seen raw hamburger? How about the lowest grade that is half fat?

One remark:  blood is not Kosher. Jews could not eat McDo Chicken McNuggets if they contained that much blood.

Check for that Kosher label, whenever you shop.

K or M in a little circle. You can see them both on a lot of products because there are two different certifying bodies with different standards.
2014-02-03 09:04:41 PM  
1 votes:
So the pink goo is actually tan?  Well THAT changes everything.
2014-02-03 08:54:45 PM  
1 votes:
Technically, beaks, feet, and feathers are chicken
 
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