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2014-02-03 11:28:27 PM  
Well, technically speaking, last nights bowel movement was made out of a dry aged 14oz ribeye, champ, butternut squash, and some nice Cabernet, but I'm sure as hell not putting it in my mouth.

/still eats the McRib
 
2014-02-03 11:29:40 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.


Noble savages?! How about our grandparents who lived on the farm?

If McNuggets are icky, what about scrapple and haggis and meatballs and meatloaf and ... ?
 
2014-02-03 11:32:54 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.


There's a limit to it though.  I love pigs feet, hot dogs, sausage..all sorts of "bit's n pieces" food.  But lately, fast food has gotten a lot worse than it used to be, even 10 years ago.  It's mostly salt with some nasty filler.  I used to love fast food, but it's finally gotten to the point that most of the menu is barely edible.

/and I drink far too much to complain about the health side of it, but I doubt there are too many processable nutrients in today's burgers.
 
2014-02-03 11:33:35 PM  

jake3988: McDonald's chicken is as much chicken as as a fruit drink 'made from real fruit'.

Or Ginger Ale 'made from real ginger'.

It may have a little bit of the real stuff in there, but that doesn't count.


WHAT!?!

Are you saying there isn't any of this...
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com

in my ginger ale ?
 
2014-02-03 11:34:16 PM  
McDonalds Canada switched to "real chicken" years ago, so it's not really surprising that they filmed this in a Canadian plant to answer a question from a Canadian customer. Notice that by not mentioning whether plants in other countries make them the same way (or whether this plant ships internationally) they're implying that this is the case everywhere, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
2014-02-03 11:39:36 PM  
Well if you think about it, isn't everything made of mostly the same stuff... at the atomic level?
 
2014-02-03 11:40:15 PM  
Well, put it this way.......... Ever get a pack of them and NOT get at least one with gristle in them? Dunno if I'm alone on that one.
 
2014-02-03 11:46:16 PM  

Therion: so the article is declaring that this

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x409]

is more palatable than this?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x630]

Keep farking that chicken, McDonalds.


I think the last one is actually raspberry sherbet, not chicken.
 
2014-02-03 11:48:32 PM  
Sure it wasn't spelled like this; "REAL™ chicken"?
 
2014-02-03 11:52:41 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.


Yeah!  I mean, fluck us for learning which parts actually had nutritional value and not building houses out of bones.  amirite?
 
2014-02-03 11:54:36 PM  

bluenovaman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Technically, beaks, feet, and feathers are chicken


I told my son that all beef includes eyes and butt to get him to stop begging me to take him there.  Worked like a charm.  Now he wants nothing to do with fast food.

/I still get my grease fix at lunch


This is what's wrong with parents these days.

You should have just told him no rather than feeding him misinformation.
 
2014-02-03 11:56:44 PM  

Therion: so the article is declaring that this

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x409]

is more palatable than this?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x630]

Keep farking that chicken, McDonalds.


It's no different than ground beef, the only difference is they add seasonings to it. Looks perfectly fine to me.
 
2014-02-03 11:59:39 PM  
 This is a stupid thread. You have one camp talking "oh I don't eat McDs" and another saying "WTF it's chicken parts".

Okay...you take chicken parts and grind them to paste and put some Carregean as a binder (because you can't really use egg products to avoid alergy stuff). So you basically have a chicken paste with some gell as a binder, then you form those and after a spray of a cornstarch water mix and dust with a light crunchy bit of corn flake type things ground down to coating give them a flash freeze and bag them.

Those get put in a deep fryer with Canola oil and you have Mc Nuggets.

Or if you have a Molecular Gastronomy type Restaurant.  You freeze them in liquid nitrogen and flash fry them and serve with a beet foam and charge 50 bucks for 6.
 
2014-02-04 12:05:08 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.

Noble savages?! How about our grandparents who lived on the farm?

If McNuggets are icky, what about scrapple and haggis and meatballs and meatloaf and ... ?


Haggis is pretty tasty if made right...

/only had it once
//prepared at a hotel for a Robert Burns dinner, so YMMV
 
2014-02-04 12:09:00 AM  
or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!
 
2014-02-04 12:11:11 AM  

Shostie: Therion: so the article is declaring that this

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x409]

is more palatable than this?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x630]

Keep farking that chicken, McDonalds.

In that the former looks like ground meat and the latter looks like unnatural "pink goop," yes. The first one is entirely more palatable.


I tend to agree. It is just chicken. Of course, it's prepared in a way that is absolutely the worst possible way for anyone to eat chicken, but it's not pretending to be anything it's not.

And yeah, I wouldn't touch a mcnugget with a 10 foot pole, but primarily it's because they are just farking terrible for you. In my advancing age, if I'm going to blow calories on unhealthy food, you damn well better bet it's going to be beer.
 
2014-02-04 12:14:03 AM  
Here's the biiiig secret... it's chicken butt.
 
2014-02-04 12:14:59 AM  

apoptotic: McDonalds Canada switched to "real chicken" years ago, so it's not really surprising that they filmed this in a Canadian plant to answer a question from a Canadian customer. Notice that by not mentioning whether plants in other countries make them the same way (or whether this plant ships internationally) they're implying that this is the case everywhere, but I wouldn't bet on it.


mcdonalds Canada runs all non us branches of the company
 
2014-02-04 12:16:06 AM  

txchad: or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!


Time/Money/Quality triangle.  McD's offers 20 nuggets for $5 out the door.  Try doing that yourself with $5 in ingredients (including the oil, and associated setup, cleanup, and tear down), paying yourself labor, and doing it in under 3 minutes.

How much does it really cost to do it yourself?  $15-$20 by my estimate.
 
2014-02-04 12:18:02 AM  
The more I look at the pink goop, The more it looks like soft serve pink ice cream to me.
 
2014-02-04 12:19:27 AM  
This is actually a lot more dissuading to me than the pink goop (even with the obviously biased blogger)

http://blog.fooducate.com/2011/03/21/why-20-mcnuggets-for-4-99-is-ac tu ally-a-bad-deal-for-you/
 
2014-02-04 12:21:49 AM  

ladyfortuna: Haggis is pretty tasty if made right...


With the right hot sauce people will eat the flesh tubes animals use to evacuate their feces.  Chitterlings.  The question is, do you want 'stump whooped' or 'hand slung'.  Meaning do you clear the intestines of fecal matter by beating them against a tree or centrifugal momentum by just slinging them around in a circle.
 
2014-02-04 12:22:23 AM  

InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.


I think we do as well if not better.

Ever hear of any of them wrestling a Dodge out of the wilderness?
 
2014-02-04 12:23:44 AM  
ITT a bunch of people who didn't RTFA still repeating untruths while everyone else tells them to RTFA while beating their head against their desk in frustration.


So basically, McNuggets are chicken sausage made with actual meat, and not offal. I've eaten plenty of ground chicken and ground turkey. Nothing particularly gross about them.
 
2014-02-04 12:26:22 AM  

KarmicDisaster: The butt is a part of the chicken


But it drops poo from there!
 
2014-02-04 12:28:43 AM  

txchad: or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!


That's not very convenient when you're stopped at an interstate exit on your way to a conference.
 
2014-02-04 12:33:10 AM  

InterruptingQuirk: Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.



A totally fair point. People have eaten offal in various forms since pretty much ever....
 
2014-02-04 12:36:04 AM  
Best washed down with 100% Malk.
 
2014-02-04 12:38:58 AM  
The US proudly still eats "chicken based product" because the real stuff tastes "bad" now.
 
2014-02-04 12:48:32 AM  

queezyweezel: txchad: or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!

Time/Money/Quality triangle.  McD's offers 20 nuggets for $5 out the door.  Try doing that yourself with $5 in ingredients (including the oil, and associated setup, cleanup, and tear down), paying yourself labor, and doing it in under 3 minutes.

How much does it really cost to do it yourself?  $15-$20 by my estimate.


I'll admit that I have never actually timed myself in preparation, cost estimated, or considered your other salient data points about attempting personal chicken nugget production, mainly because I have to be in a really dark, depressing state to want to consume chicken in a fashion that it's only positive palatable contribution is a mediocre fried batter and whatever flavors the chosen sauce could add.  And in that state I am not wanting to cook for myself.  In that state I have generally decided that my appreciation of food stock and nutritional value have plummeted well below my need for cheap calories and fake social interaction with people that wouldn't take the extra second it requires to wipe a booger off the food they are about to serve me.  So I think you have scored yourself a point there.
 
2014-02-04 12:58:32 AM  

apoptotic: McDonalds Canada switched to "real chicken" years ago, so it's not really surprising that they filmed this in a Canadian plant to answer a question from a Canadian customer. Notice that by not mentioning whether plants in other countries make them the same way (or whether this plant ships internationally) they're implying that this is the case everywhere, but I wouldn't bet on it.


THIS!!!!! SO MUCH THIS!

/exactly
 
2014-02-04 12:58:35 AM  
Great. The old slight of hand. They distract you with the chicken so you won't ask about the McRib.
 
2014-02-04 01:15:16 AM  

queezyweezel: txchad: or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!

Time/Money/Quality triangle.  McD's offers 20 nuggets for $5 out the door.  Try doing that yourself with $5 in ingredients (including the oil, and associated setup, cleanup, and tear down), paying yourself labor, and doing it in under 3 minutes.

How much does it really cost to do it yourself?  $15-$20 by my estimate.


Applying this metric to cooking as a whole will lead somebody to eat fast food until it kills them.

Aside from that, considering the cost of your own labour isn't valid unless there's a real opportunity cost - ie, instead of spending that time cooking, you could have actually gotten paid to do something else.
 
2014-02-04 01:21:01 AM  

Zeno-25: Funny how they advertise the nuggets as being made of 100% breast meat, but they would taste better if they contained a certain proportion of dark meat as well.

Americans are stupid and like bland, flavorless food though, so sell 100% white breast meat at a premium in the US because it gives a false sense of quality and then ship the dark meat over to Asia where they appreciate its superior flavor and make even more money that way.

McNuggets used to be a combination of white and dark meat.


Man, I miss the dark meat McNuggets. Used to ask for only those, and of course they'd happily oblige since dark meat is cheaper. Haven't eaten the things since they got rid of the dark meat, because the white meat ones taste like goddamned cardboard.
 
2014-02-04 01:26:50 AM  

costermonger: queezyweezel: txchad: or you could just get REAL chicken breasts, cut them into chunks, batter and fry them!

Time/Money/Quality triangle.  McD's offers 20 nuggets for $5 out the door.  Try doing that yourself with $5 in ingredients (including the oil, and associated setup, cleanup, and tear down), paying yourself labor, and doing it in under 3 minutes.

How much does it really cost to do it yourself?  $15-$20 by my estimate.

Applying this metric to cooking as a whole will lead somebody to eat fast food until it kills them.

Aside from that, considering the cost of your own labour isn't valid unless there's a real opportunity cost - ie, instead of spending that time cooking, you could have actually gotten paid to do something else.


Agreed, this is also why the idea of "motherhood is a job" falls flat on it's face. During that time that you're changing juniors nappy, could you have actually gotten paid to do something else?
 
2014-02-04 01:34:35 AM  

Zeno-25: Funny how they advertise the nuggets as being made of 100% breast meat, but they would taste better if they contained a certain proportion of dark meat as well.

Americans are stupid and like bland, flavorless food though, so sell 100% white breast meat at a premium in the US because it gives a false sense of quality and then ship the dark meat over to Asia where they appreciate its superior flavor and make even more money that way.

McNuggets used to be a combination of white and dark meat.


I'm far from a typical American that just likes bland food but Jesus I hate dark meat chicken. Just can't stand it. Never have liked it. I usually prefer leaner meats though.

Then again I don't like their chicken nuggets either (the batter is awful). For fast food, KFC's got some crispy chicken bites that are pretty damn good right now. I only go to McDonald's when I want their fries or if I want their deluxe quarterpounder (which was better when it was the Angus burger) and don't feel like getting all those toppings together myself. Or if I want the extra bubbly fountain diet coke, since I can't find a local place to get bubbles to make my own.
 
2014-02-04 01:43:35 AM  
People keep getting all outraged at McD's when Burger King is far grosser and getting away with it.
 
2014-02-04 01:54:48 AM  

trappedspirit: McDonald's reveals Chicken McNuggets are actually made out REAL chicken. No, really

Someone made out with a real chicken?  I can't made out what you sayings.


Let me understand, you got the hen, the chicken and the rooster. The rooster goes with the chicken. So, who's making out with the hen? You only hear of a hen, a rooster and a chicken. Something's missing!
 
2014-02-04 02:04:12 AM  
InterruptingQuirk

Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.

Agreed.

Sometime back I biatched that macaroni factories had found a way to recycle their 'factory seconds', meaning boxes full of edible pasta which could not be sold because of misprints, slight damage and so on. They donated tons to Charities who fed the poor. Now, they can grind up the contents, mix it in with fresh dough, and recycle it.

That means much less free food for the needy.

I got chastised soundly for complaining about a way to recycle food that helped bring the cost down.

A bit later, I biatched that grocery stores no longer include the neck, gizzards, liver or heart in whole chickens. Instead, the neck is sold to pet food companies, the gizzards and livers are packed in bulk containers for separate sales and the hearts often are sold to companies who use chicken parts to make processed chicken patties.

So, the consumer looses out. I recall many a Mom, when I was a kid, hoarding the livers, hearts, necks and gizzards. Necks and livers often went into soup broth. Livers and gizzards and hearts were often fried up with onions and butter for a tasty meal.

I had noticed the exploding cost of whole chickens, which used to be one of the cheapest meats available.

I got chastised again for disagreeing with free enterprise that allowed companies to make greater profits off the same product.

I was also lectured on how much food is wasted by everyone.

So, now it's cheaper to buy bags of frozen chicken parts, injected with water, broth and/or sugar for flavor and thighs now come with great gobs of fat left on to increase the bulk weight.

So, businesses started recycling assorted byproducts they would normally dispose of and most folks never even noticed. Scraps of less popular meats get pulverized, mixed with assorted fillers, seasoned and sold as cheap burgers, patties, meatloaf's, sausage filling. Bones get sold for fertilizer additives or, occasionally, to make soup.

Companies waste less.

'Dirty Jobs' showed how a crab meat company packed the prime sections in cans, then processed the scraps in the shells, normally tossed out, into a crab filling, seasoned it and sold it mainly to restaurants. There was even a market for the calcium rich shells.

Fish scraps from assorted fish, normally tossed out or sold to pet food places, are processed into artificial crab and lobster meat, tinted with dyes to resemble the real stuff, flavored and sold cheaper than the real thing.

This, from what I understand, was supposed to be a good thing. Less waste. More food. Cheaper prices, bigger profits. A win-win situation.

Another company collect deceased, rotting farm animals from farmers, processes them into huge vats of oil and tons of basically minced meat. The oils are sold to companies who make soaps and lubricants. The now sterile, mixed meats are drained and sold to pet food companies. The hides are sold to various leather companies.

A nice savings from animals useless for food or anything else, which would have been left to rot or just buried.

After the Organic Craze hit, this all changed. Suddenly recycling once thrown out, edible parts was a bad thing. A good thing was grass raised, free range, non-antibiotic or steroid injected meats. Only the best cuts, no fillers.
At 4 times the price of conventionally raised meat.

Fish Farms were the thing of the future. Cheaper, more plentiful seafood. They were fed food pellets made from assorted meat and vegetable scraps, including the processed, dead bodies of other fish.

Now, its bad, not all that healthy, the land locked farms consume too much water and the fish often swim in a soup of their own waste, requiring antibiotics to be added to the waters. Natural, free range is the best. However, natural fish cost three times as much as farmed and the stocks are being wiped out.

Commercial trawlers rip up the seabed and diminish the schools of other fish accidentally hauled in. (Bycatch.) Most are tossed back, but are either outright killed in the other tons of fish in the net or damaged so that they die shortly after.

Look how Tuna went from an affordable food to one fish costing tens of thousands of dollars as the schools steadily diminish.
So, pretty much anything the food industry does to stretch the limited supply, cut waste, keep prices low comes down to 'Damned if you do and damned if you don't.)

BTW. I've had real hotdogs. To me, they taste more like chewy sausage than hotdogs. They're much more expensive also.
 
2014-02-04 02:05:53 AM  
They used to make them out of all sorts of leftover crap scraped off the meat processing plant floor (just like you've seen on Food Revolution).

But surprise! Food Revolution wasn't helping McD's already damaged reputation, so NOW they've switched to all white meat nuggets. It's a marketing thing. I doubt it will last five years before random sh*t starts creeping back in he nuggets.

We can call it "profit margin creep" if you guys like.
 
2014-02-04 02:24:01 AM  
To hell with the food at McDonalds, I go there for the shamrock shakes.
 
2014-02-04 02:26:56 AM  

trappedspirit: ladyfortuna: Haggis is pretty tasty if made right...

With the right hot sauce people will eat the flesh tubes animals use to evacuate their feces.  Chitterlings.  The question is, do you want 'stump whooped' or 'hand slung'.  Meaning do you clear the intestines of fecal matter by beating them against a tree or centrifugal momentum by just slinging them around in a circle.


Any time you eat a hot dog or sausage made with 'natural casing,' that means it's wrapped in intestines. Also, cheese is essentially curdled milk from a cow's stomach.

Dunno if I'd go as far as eating chitterlings, but it's pretty clear that people don't realize many of their favorite dishes are byproducts of assholes and stomach acid.
 
2014-02-04 02:49:50 AM  

Chaide: Also, cheese is essentially curdled milk from a cow's stomach.


I understand what you are trying to say, but the way you said it makes you sound retarded. Yes cheese is created with rennet. Yes rennet is extracted from cows (and other mammals) stomachs. Cheese however does not come from the inside of a cows stomach which for some reason contains curdled milk.

Fark, I know we are lazy around here, but c'mon.
 
2014-02-04 02:56:43 AM  

TwistedFark: Chaide: Also, cheese is essentially curdled milk from a cow's stomach.

I understand what you are trying to say, but the way you said it makes you sound retarded. Yes cheese is created with rennet. Yes rennet is extracted from cows (and other mammals) stomachs. Cheese however does not come from the inside of a cows stomach which for some reason contains curdled milk.

Fark, I know we are lazy around here, but c'mon.


I'll be sure to list every detail from here on out. Or, you know, assume people might use Wikipedia once in a while. I took some liberties on the internet. My bad.
 
2014-02-04 03:01:55 AM  

Chaide: TwistedFark: Chaide: Also, cheese is essentially curdled milk from a cow's stomach.

I understand what you are trying to say, but the way you said it makes you sound retarded. Yes cheese is created with rennet. Yes rennet is extracted from cows (and other mammals) stomachs. Cheese however does not come from the inside of a cows stomach which for some reason contains curdled milk.

Fark, I know we are lazy around here, but c'mon.

I'll be sure to list every detail from here on out. Or, you know, assume people might use Wikipedia once in a while. I took some liberties on the internet. My bad.


Well, at least you accepted responsibility. Next time do better.
 
2014-02-04 03:36:20 AM  

LordOfThePings: trappedspirit: McDonald's reveals Chicken McNuggets are actually made out REAL chicken. No, really

Someone made out with a real chicken?  I can't made out what you sayings.

Let me understand, you got the hen, the chicken and the rooster. The rooster goes with the chicken. So, who's making out with the hen? You only hear of a hen, a rooster and a chicken. Something's missing!


Somethingsmissing alright.
 
2014-02-04 03:39:05 AM  
I found it surprising that during the whole horse meat thing we had here in the UK, none of the major fast food chains were found to of been using it or the company that supplied the raw ingredients to the other places.

As far as I can tell a McDonalds burger does indeed have 100% beef in it and the McNuggets are 100% breast meat; just as advertised.

We all say it's 'C' grade food and such but apparently not.
 
2014-02-04 03:41:50 AM  

Rik01: InterruptingQuirk

Doesn't anyone remember the days when we would celebrate the noble savages for not wasting any part of the animals they killed by eating all the flesh that on the creature and using all the skin and bones for practical purposes. How civilized we have become in our snobbery.

Agreed.

Sometime back I biatched that macaroni factories had found a way to recycle their 'factory seconds', meaning boxes full of edible pasta which could not be sold because of misprints, slight damage and so on. They donated tons to Charities who fed the poor. Now, they can grind up the contents, mix it in with fresh dough, and recycle it.

That means much less free food for the needy.

I got chastised soundly for complaining about a way to recycle food that helped bring the cost down.

A bit later, I biatched that grocery stores no longer include the neck, gizzards, liver or heart in whole chickens. Instead, the neck is sold to pet food companies, the gizzards and livers are packed in bulk containers for separate sales and the hearts often are sold to companies who use chicken parts to make processed chicken patties.

So, the consumer looses out. I recall many a Mom, when I was a kid, hoarding the livers, hearts, necks and gizzards. Necks and livers often went into soup broth. Livers and gizzards and hearts were often fried up with onions and butter for a tasty meal.

I had noticed the exploding cost of whole chickens, which used to be one of the cheapest meats available.

I got chastised again for disagreeing with free enterprise that allowed companies to make greater profits off the same product.

I was also lectured on how much food is wasted by everyone.

So, now it's cheaper to buy bags of frozen chicken parts, injected with water, broth and/or sugar for flavor and thighs now come with great gobs of fat left on to increase the bulk weight.

So, businesses started recycling assorted byproducts they would normally dispose of and most folks never even noticed. Scraps of ...


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2014-02-04 04:54:08 AM  

brantgoose: Check for that Kosher label, whenever you shop.

K or M in a little circle. You can see them both on a lot of products because there are two different certifying bodies with different standards.


I thought it was a U in a circle?  at least when I worked in manufacturing I thought it was.

/after a little googlefu, I think it is U or K... but no M

https://www.google.com/search?q=kosher+symbol&safe=off&espv=210&es_s m= 93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=V7fwUtWLLePB2wWU84D4Cg&ved=0CCkQ sAQ&biw=1366&bih=643
 
2014-02-04 05:02:17 AM  

trappedspirit: McDonald's reveals Chicken McNuggets are actually made out REAL chicken. No, really

Someone made out with a real chicken?  I can't made out what you sayings.


Check out any Benghazi threads in the Politics tab for further examples.
 
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