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(News On 6 Tulsa)   Campers spend an hour crossing river in order to rescue lost and injured hunting dog. Take him back to tent and contact owner the next morning. Owner: "I don't want him back, he wasn't working out" Camper: "Don't worry pup, you can come live with me"   (newson6.com) divider line 49
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2014-02-03 04:28:54 PM  
13 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.


I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.
2014-02-03 03:09:08 PM  
13 votes:
Best possible outcome. Previous owners were despicable assholes who should be marooned on that river.
2014-02-03 03:21:06 PM  
11 votes:
I hope the former owners get eaten by a bear.
2014-02-03 04:26:21 PM  
10 votes:
I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.
2014-02-03 04:34:06 PM  
8 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.


I'm picturing you saying that while eating a hamburger made from a cow that was pumped full of drugs, separated from its mother, crammed into tight spaces, and fed a corn mixture while it fattened up to within an inch of dying of obesity before it was slaughtered by someone doing your dirty work by proxy ... so I'm getting a kick out of this.
2014-02-03 04:34:16 PM  
6 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.


I have. I know some really great people who are lifelong hunters. The kind of folks who'd like nothing more to give the callous douche in this story a good piece of their mind and make sure that pup goes to a loving home. I've also met some real pieces of human trash who were hunters too.

Hunters are, surprise surprise, just like any other people and run the gamut from scumbag to average to awesome.
2014-02-03 04:32:16 PM  
6 votes:
It is heartwarming to know that now the pooch will most likely live the rest of his days being more of a family member rather than some prop to be abandoned.

The dog probably was crying, literally. :(
2014-02-03 04:42:48 PM  
5 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Not trolling, though I am a farkhead. It's probably because I'm from Florida, and our "hunters" are mainly suburban white trash who want to get drunk in the woods and kill stuff. I'm sure there are decent hunters out there, just few and far between here.


That's. . . actually pretty reasonable. Fair enough.
2014-02-03 04:46:15 PM  
4 votes:
Former owner should suffer a hunting accident.
2014-02-03 04:45:02 PM  
4 votes:
The hunter in this story is obviously one of those who view a dog as disposable.  The same guy who will spend a fortune on a gun and, if it isn't right, will tinker away and spend another fortune getting it "right".  Even though the biggest problem is usually the mechanism pulling the trigger.  They'll also spend a fortune on a dog, not have a clue how to handle a dog, let alone train him, and then - when the dog "doesn't work," they'll abandon it.

Every good hunter I've known, and that's far and away the majority, wouldn't think of abandoning a dog anymore than they'd abandon their kid.  Even if the dog "isn't working out" they'll do the responsible thing, take it home and try to find a pet home instead of a hunting home.

So this dog was lucky.  Which doesn't change the fact that I wish the former owner more grief than he can manage.
2014-02-03 04:42:04 PM  
4 votes:

Mithiwithi: Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.

Pretty sure DJ&ToD is trolling here. Which doesn't mean you're wrong about him being a farkhead.


Not trolling, though I am a farkhead. It's probably because I'm from Florida, and our "hunters" are mainly suburban white trash who want to get drunk in the woods and kill stuff. I'm sure there are decent hunters out there, just few and far between here.
2014-02-03 04:35:11 PM  
4 votes:
Yay. That dog is going to have a much better life.
2014-02-03 04:32:53 PM  
4 votes:
I'd be willing to wager that's not the first dog that former owner has "lost".
2014-02-03 05:47:13 PM  
3 votes:

walktoanarcade: I realize you're addressing Bit'O', but it seems to me that the hunter may have written off that gear just like he wrote off the dog. At any rate, he had a responsibility to go after the dog.

How one can leave a sensitive, loving animal like a dog or a cat like that is beneath and beyond me, thankfully.


I think you missed my point. Bit'O's contention was that the dog wasn't hunting in the first place, but was abandoned to die from the outset. I was just pointing out that it would be retarded to outfit the dog in full hunting regalia and then abandon him. It's much simpler and cheaper to dump the dog off with no tags and no gear, if you just want to get rid of him.

There are a lot of people in this thread that seem to be operating under the mistaken apprehension that finding a lost hunting dog is a matter of hanging around for a bit, maybe walking around and yelling their name.

This isn't really the case - most of these dogs are bred to run game, and it is the overriding instinct to do so. Hunting dogs generally don't (or won't) take commands while running game.

If the dog picks up off game like a deer and starts running it, then within 2 or 3 minutes both dog and deer can be miles away, through underbrush too thick to cut your way through with a machete, much less try and track a dog through it. I've seen dogs run deer for 10-15-20 miles at a go before (following along in a vehicle along a parallel road with a tracking handset and cursing the whole time).

SOP when you lose a dog is to leave an item of your (preferably sweaty and stinky) clothing where you dropped the dog off along with a water bowl (but no food!) and come back back every few days to see if the dog has come back and is waiting on you nearby. If, as in apparently happened in this case, the dog has done something like swim across a river in its excitement and can't make the trip back, then you'll probably never see the dog again.

There's no such thing as chasing after a hunting dog that has run off. All that does is get you lost as well as the dog. Think about it - we use hunting dogs because they are faster and cover more ground than a human ever could, through thicker brush and rougher terrain. You're never going to "find" the dog; the dog has to come to you.

What you seem to expect the hunter to do is pretty much the #1 no-no in dog hunting. Wandering off through thick brush looking for a dog that might be (but probably isn't) in the direction you're looking and hoping that he's within range of your voice (he probably isn't) is a good way to wind up with a case of the deads. Or, at the very least, a case of the "search and rescues" when you get lost in the woods too and don't come home that night.
2014-02-03 05:17:48 PM  
3 votes:

Mikey1969: Speaker2Animals: Best possible outcome. Previous owners were despicable assholes who should be marooned on that river.

Not necessarily, they could have thought the dog was dead and swept away by the river, and when the other people showed that much dedication to saving this dog, they realized that the campers deserved to own the dog. See, the story doesn't really back up subby's headline. Hell, it actually says that the owners thought the dog was lost. If I had lost a dog that I hadn't had for very long and thought it was dead, and someone worked that hard to save, I might just gift it to them, and I'm a huge dog person.


Sorry, but if your first reaction wasn't to immediately hop in your car and speed to these people and embrace your dog and make sure he's all right, you are definitely not a "huge dog person."
2014-02-03 04:41:22 PM  
3 votes:
We have two dogs that are both "rescue" dogs, the first one was from an abandoned litter of pups (Beagle/Pug) that our local rescue society took in.   The next one we got when the first one was 2, the 2nd one was abused by her owner and it took several months for her to realize we weren't going to beat her and she has turned into the best little pup that I think would fight a chainsaw to protect her home.   She patrols the back yard and will not let ANYONE in her backyard.   My wife thinks it's because she is so grateful to be part of a family.
2014-02-03 04:38:02 PM  
3 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.


Well they obviously don't care about killing another living thing so throwing away a dog is easy for them They don't see them as pets, they're a piece of equipment. The dog will probably be happier in it's new home anyway. Instead of living out doors year-round chained to a little wooden dog house.
2014-02-03 05:29:11 PM  
2 votes:
Don't hunt myself, but I know a lot of decent men who do - they are not going out shooting 200 prarie dogs in an afternoon - but they do go meat hunting, and given the abundant deer and elk herds in the state, it's a good thing they do or we would be utterly overrun with the things!

But we get plenty of guys around here who tresspass on private land, and mostly go out to get drunk every night and get out with the boys.  Not a bad thing, but not really hunters, IMHO.

Hoping to bag a poacher on my Ranch this year - we found his gut pile last fall.

My neighbor keeps his freezer full that way, half the animal or I call the Sheriff and press charges....seems to work very well, best with the out of state hunters for whom a court date would be a disaster...

snerk.

I don't object at all to hunting, don't really care for the killing part myself, but shooting is fun.
2014-02-03 04:52:31 PM  
2 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mithiwithi: Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.

Pretty sure DJ&ToD is trolling here. Which doesn't mean you're wrong about him being a farkhead.

Not trolling, though I am a farkhead. It's probably because I'm from Florida, and our "hunters" are mainly suburban white trash who want to get drunk in the woods and kill stuff. I'm sure there are decent hunters out there, just few and far between here.


The only type of hunter I can't stand is a trophy hunter. I am of the opinion that if you shoot an animal; you should use as much of the carcass as possible.

The only thing I usually leave behind are the guts; you can usually find uses for everything else. Native American Tribes are usually interested in bones for ceremonies and such. You can use the antlers of deer to attract more deer by clashing them together. Of course; you eat the meat. The pelts can be made into rugs or blankets.

/ the hunters you're talking about are scum
2014-02-03 04:50:58 PM  
2 votes:

MelGoesOnTour: Story makes me happy and sad at the same time.

My 12-year-old German Shepherd just passed away (at home)...dog stories bring me to the verge. Especially ones with good endings.


Here's another for you. One of my Labs was a washout from hunting school, so the PO was just going to toss this $600 dogpup until I came along. Now he's happy and loved, and nobody's going to discard him because 'he wasn't working out'.
2014-02-03 04:50:49 PM  
2 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mithiwithi: Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.

Pretty sure DJ&ToD is trolling here. Which doesn't mean you're wrong about him being a farkhead.

Not trolling, though I am a farkhead. It's probably because I'm from Florida, and our "hunters" are mainly suburban white trash who want to get drunk in the woods and kill stuff. I'm sure there are decent hunters out there, just few and far between here.


It's like bicyclists - you register the spandex assholes. With hunters, you register the drunken boo-yaws who hunt in a monster truck with shiatty Sears catalogue "assault weapons" and everything they own camo - meanwhile, the cool ones are slipping silently through the misty glade with their powerbow, or sitting in a duck blind burning a phattie.
As with all cool people, they are far less visible than the uncool.
2014-02-03 04:46:44 PM  
2 votes:

Speaker2Animals: Best possible outcome. Previous owners were despicable assholes who should be marooned on that river.


Not necessarily, they could have thought the dog was dead and swept away by the river, and when the other people showed that much dedication to saving this dog, they realized that the campers deserved to own the dog. See, the story doesn't really back up subby's headline. Hell, it actually says that the owners thought the dog was lost. If I had lost a dog that I hadn't had for very long and thought it was dead, and someone worked that hard to save, I might just gift it to them, and I'm a huge dog person.
2014-02-03 04:45:22 PM  
2 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: Man what a douche. I mean he could have at least shot the dog, if did not want it anymore.


I feel really bad for laughing at that.

Glad the dog was ok and the hunter saved their bullet, hopefully they will accidentally shoot themselves in the gonads with it.
2014-02-03 04:42:53 PM  
2 votes:
I'm going out on a limb and say that the original owner thinks of himself as "pro-life" and a bastion of "family values".
2014-02-03 04:40:08 PM  
2 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.


10/10

Short, sweet, to the point. And look at all the bites.

Today, sir, you are a god among trolls.
2014-02-03 04:36:16 PM  
2 votes:
Wow, the original owner left a hunting dog in training? Some hunting dogs can command as much as $5,000. That's pretty dumb. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being congressperson, that's a solid 8. Maybe even a 9; depending on the breed of dog.
2014-02-03 04:32:50 PM  
2 votes:
What an absolutely great story...
Sometimes I do see a hope for humanity.
2014-02-03 04:28:33 PM  
2 votes:

Speaker2Animals: Best possible outcome. Previous owners were despicable assholes who should be marooned on that river.


Instead they probably have other dogs and will be allowed to own more in the future.

We can be a pretty farked up species sometimes.
2014-02-03 04:23:11 PM  
2 votes:

what_now: I hope the former owners get eaten by a bear.

pig.
2014-02-04 10:28:10 AM  
1 votes:
Elegy:   Bunch of words designed to make someone feel ok with abandoning a dog.

We're two different types of people. You have a human and moral responsibility to look out for your animals.

I'll quote the Bible too: "A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast."
2014-02-03 08:38:52 PM  
1 votes:
Next step: Post the names and phone number of the original owners so the Internet can troll the sh*t out of them.

/csb:
A friend and I were section-hiking the AT in Connecticut.  The smell of our dinner cooking drew a scrawny cat in to our lean-to.  We found two sealed cans of cat food, and in the lean-to's trail journal the cat's former owner had written that s/he had INTENTIONALLY left the cat there (and the food) and hoped someone would find it a good home!  HO-LEE-CRAP!  They abandoned a house cat in the farking wilderness and expected it to live?  (And how the hell was the cat supposed to get into the cat food tins?)  Anyway, the cat had gone semi-insane and we had to wrap/tie it up in my fleece in order to pack it out of the woods.  Neither of us could have pets where we lived then, so we brought it to the nearest animal hospital we could find... the receptionist looked daggers at us like we had concocted this story to abandon our own pet or something, and then demanded $80 as their "pet surrender fee."  My friend had $3 on him.  I had $40.  We left the $43, the insane cat, and the angry receptionist to deal with each other.  Mazzie, hope you found a good home.
/csb end
2014-02-03 05:34:31 PM  
1 votes:
My brother will stay out all night look for a lost coon dog.  He really gets attached to his dogs.
2014-02-03 05:28:47 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Right: The hunter in this story is obviously one of those who view a dog as disposable.  The same guy who will spend a fortune on a gun and, if it isn't right, will tinker away and spend another fortune getting it "right".  Even though the biggest problem is usually the mechanism pulling the trigger.  They'll also spend a fortune on a dog, not have a clue how to handle a dog, let alone train him, and then - when the dog "doesn't work," they'll abandon it.

Every good hunter I've known, and that's far and away the majority, wouldn't think of abandoning a dog anymore than they'd abandon their kid.  Even if the dog "isn't working out" they'll do the responsible thing, take it home and try to find a pet home instead of a hunting home.

So this dog was lucky.  Which doesn't change the fact that I wish the former owner more grief than he can manage.


The ones I know who hunt with dogs treat their dogs a little better than they do their kids.
2014-02-03 05:09:54 PM  
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: Ran away huh? And you're just giving him up? I think its more like he WASNT working out as a hunting dog, and you just abandoned him to die in the wilderness, because that was cheaper than actually taking care of him, or bothering to find him a new home. That..was not a hunting dog you tool. You dumped him, and drove away. Otherwise, you would have searched for days, and if someone had found him and called you, you would have wanted him back. You sir, are a flaming pus filled asshole.


Project much?

Riddle me this - why would a hunter abandon a dog to die, but still outfit the dog with a hunting vest and ID tags?
2014-02-03 05:06:04 PM  
1 votes:
Ran away huh? And you're just giving him up? I think its more like he WASNT working out as a hunting dog, and you just abandoned him to die in the wilderness, because that was cheaper than actually taking care of him, or bothering to find him a new home. That..was not a hunting dog you tool. You dumped him, and drove away. Otherwise, you would have searched for days, and if someone had found him and called you, you would have wanted him back. You sir, are a flaming pus filled asshole.
2014-02-03 05:04:57 PM  
1 votes:
This story reminds me of an old labrador that became my frequent travelling buddy for outdoors stuff. His name was Hooper, and we met purely by accident at the animal shelter. I had come by to donate some leftover food from a dog that we had just had to put down, and it was a hard trip to make indeed. I didn't feel I was ready yet for another dog in our life, but then I happened to catch sight of a group of puppies in a nearby cage. Most of them were lively and barking, sure to be adopted out quickly. But there was one in the back, smaller than the rest, who barely had the energy to lift his head to look at me. Look at me he did, though, and I knew that I was coming home with a new member of the family.

From that day on, Hooper and I were constant companions. I like to go camping and hiking quite a bit, and Hooper loved the outdoors. Of course, most of all, Hooper loved the water. Lakes, streams, you name it. He loved nothing more than to jump in, frolic around, shake off, and jump in again., He was a quiet dog otherwise, but once he got in the water, he was like a whole other animal. It was fun to watch.

He liked the water so much that I never thought anything of it when he would jump in a river or a lake. But one day, the unthinkable happened. Hooper dove into a nearby river, just like always, but as I waited for him to come up, nothing happened. Seconds elapsed. More seconds, and I knew Hooper was in trouble. I went to dive in afterward, but was stopped by my old fishing buddy, who knew the currents of the river well. He quickly handed me a life jacket, and wouldn't let me dive in until I put it on. Quickly pulling it on, I dove in after my dog.

I swam for what felt like hours, diving down as far as I could in the cumbersome life vest, but never being able to find my dog in my depths. I started to go numb from the cold, but I kept going. Eventually, my buddy hauled me out of the water onto the bank. I thought for sure that Hooper was a goner.

But then, against all odds, I saw a single ear rise up out of the surface of the water. He was alive! Hooper was swimming quickly up the river, his head poking above the surface, jaws open wide in delight as he swam quickly toward us. It was at that point, unfortunately, that Hooper came to rest on one of the stray SCUBA tanks that happened to be floating down the river from an encampment nearby. My buddy leveled his spear gun right at Hooper, said "smile, you son of a biatch", and scored a direct hit on the tank.

As water mist and fine chunks of labrador rained down from the sky onto us, I regretfully noted to myself that I would never put on a lifejacket again.
2014-02-03 05:04:07 PM  
1 votes:
In other news, most people are assholes and most dogs aren't.

/cats, on the other hand...
2014-02-03 04:55:44 PM  
1 votes:
It's always a special feeling to get home from work and be greeted by your dog.
i.imgur.com
2014-02-03 04:52:47 PM  
1 votes:
Dogs that won't hunt make great family pets. It's just a matter of making the connection. Adopted a beagle mix pound puppy that was sound sensitive and he's been the best pet ever.
2014-02-03 04:52:33 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mithiwithi: Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.

Pretty sure DJ&ToD is trolling here. Which doesn't mean you're wrong about him being a farkhead.

Not trolling, though I am a farkhead. It's probably because I'm from Florida...


That's all you had to say
2014-02-03 04:51:53 PM  
1 votes:
We have a rescued German Shorthair Pointer.  We were hoping for a hunter, but instead we got the class clown of pointers and we love him to death!!
2014-02-03 04:47:42 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-02-03 04:44:58 PM  
1 votes:

Wellon Dowd: We get tons of rescue beagles in the DC area that were found wandering lost in West Virginia. Apparently the owners don't bother to search more than 10 minutes before packing up the truck.


Not that I condone anyone abandoning dogs, but I'd put even money on the beagles running off and not returning because that's what they tend to do. Seriously, it's not uncommon for them to take off running and not think to turn back until hours later, at which point they're usually lost. There's a reason they're used in packs. They're not that bright and need to use numbers to overwhelm whatever they're tracking.
2014-02-03 04:42:06 PM  
1 votes:

Mithiwithi: Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.

Pretty sure DJ&ToD is trolling here. Which doesn't mean you're wrong about him being a farkhead.


Poe's Law.
2014-02-03 04:38:51 PM  
1 votes:

Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.


Pretty sure DJ&ToD is trolling here. Which doesn't mean you're wrong about him being a farkhead.
2014-02-03 04:36:10 PM  
1 votes:
Story makes me happy and sad at the same time.

My 12-year-old German Shepherd just passed away (at home)...dog stories bring me to the verge. Especially ones with good endings.
2014-02-03 04:32:40 PM  
1 votes:
We get tons of rescue beagles in the DC area that were found wandering lost in West Virginia. Apparently the owners don't bother to search more than 10 minutes before packing up the truck.
2014-02-03 04:30:43 PM  
1 votes:

Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.


Ditto
2014-02-03 04:30:33 PM  
1 votes:
People in Oklahoma are caring, giving people. Of course if that dog shows one iota of "lib" in him, it's back into the river. We ain't the reddest of the red for nothing.
 
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