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(News On 6 Tulsa)   Campers spend an hour crossing river in order to rescue lost and injured hunting dog. Take him back to tent and contact owner the next morning. Owner: "I don't want him back, he wasn't working out" Camper: "Don't worry pup, you can come live with me"   (newson6.com) divider line 126
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2014-02-03 09:36:16 PM

abhorrent1: MycroftHolmes: abhorrent1: MycroftHolmes: abhorrent1: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

Well they obviously don't care about killing another living thing so throwing away a dog is easy for them They don't see them as pets, they're a piece of equipment. The dog will probably be happier in it's new home anyway. Instead of living out doors year-round chained to a little wooden dog house.

You obviously don't care about killing another living thing, so who are you to talk?

I don't get it. What makes you say that?

Because almost every aspect of modern industrial life results in the direct or indirect taking of other life. There is no philosophical difference between being the reason why that life is taken and pulling the trigger.

Trying to claim moral superiority over people who are willing to be more direct is hypocritical at best

How do you know I'm not a Vegan?


I know you use a computer
 
2014-02-03 09:52:48 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mithiwithi: Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.

Pretty sure DJ&ToD is trolling here. Which doesn't mean you're wrong about him being a farkhead.

Not trolling, though I am a farkhead. It's probably because I'm from Florida, and our "hunters" are mainly suburban white trash who want to get drunk in the woods and kill stuff. I'm sure there are decent hunters out there, just few and far between here.


Yes, you're trolling. Qualify your idiotic generalizations before some calls you to the carpet on it.
 
2014-02-03 10:01:55 PM

Speaker2Animals: Mikey1969: Speaker2Animals: Best possible outcome. Previous owners were despicable assholes who should be marooned on that river.

Not necessarily, they could have thought the dog was dead and swept away by the river, and when the other people showed that much dedication to saving this dog, they realized that the campers deserved to own the dog. See, the story doesn't really back up subby's headline. Hell, it actually says that the owners thought the dog was lost. If I had lost a dog that I hadn't had for very long and thought it was dead, and someone worked that hard to save, I might just gift it to them, and I'm a huge dog person.

Sorry, but if your first reaction wasn't to immediately hop in your car and speed to these people and embrace your dog and make sure he's all right, you are definitely not a "huge dog person."


Not sure about the outcome but several square miles of a nearby National Forest are plastered with signs (in plastic sheeting) notifying of a lost dog. The owner isn't even very near. That's what a devoted dog person does.
 
2014-02-03 10:19:54 PM

pyrotek85: Wellon Dowd: We get tons of rescue beagles in the DC area that were found wandering lost in West Virginia. Apparently the owners don't bother to search more than 10 minutes before packing up the truck.

Not that I condone anyone abandoning dogs, but I'd put even money on the beagles running off and not returning because that's what they tend to do. Seriously, it's not uncommon for them to take off running and not think to turn back until hours later, at which point they're usually lost. There's a reason they're used in packs. They're not that bright and need to use numbers to overwhelm whatever they're tracking.


I disagree that beagles aren't bright; they can learn, they just don't care about what you are teaching.
 
2014-02-03 10:25:15 PM
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2014-02-03 10:30:18 PM

Wellon Dowd: pyrotek85: Wellon Dowd: We get tons of rescue beagles in the DC area that were found wandering lost in West Virginia. Apparently the owners don't bother to search more than 10 minutes before packing up the truck.

Not that I condone anyone abandoning dogs, but I'd put even money on the beagles running off and not returning because that's what they tend to do. Seriously, it's not uncommon for them to take off running and not think to turn back until hours later, at which point they're usually lost. There's a reason they're used in packs. They're not that bright and need to use numbers to overwhelm whatever they're tracking.

I disagree that beagles aren't bright; they can learn, they just don't care about what you are teaching.


That's a good way of putting it lol. They're very food driven so you can get some limited success when using treats, but mostly the problem seems to be their hunting drive. If they catch a whiff of something interesting they take off running and will often ignore any commands to return. It's pretty well known among beagle owners, many don't ever let them off their leashes.
 
2014-02-03 10:33:41 PM
If you want to facepalm yourself to death you should check out the comments under the article. Including the very shutter-worthy butchering and torturing of the English language by the one of the dog owners. Who, by the way, has found a way to procreate and further doom our species to extinction.
 
2014-02-03 10:44:34 PM

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//I would move heaven and earth to find her


That looks like my dog, except with a tail. Mine has no tail.
 
2014-02-03 10:49:22 PM

spiderpaz: Boojum2k: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.

I've known many good hunters and a few bad ones, but I've never met someone who hated hunters who wasn't an absolute farkhead.

Ditto

head.


FTFY
 
2014-02-03 11:04:34 PM

mongbiohazard: Yeah that's a whole $30 worth of gear...


About $80, if you want to quibble about it.

But you're totally correct otherwise. I know that before I abandon a dog in the woods, I make sure to gear him up with tags that list all of my contact details, just in case someone finds him.
 
2014-02-03 11:14:28 PM
One of the former owners is trying to defend herself in the comments of the article.
 
2014-02-03 11:16:27 PM

Elegy: mongbiohazard: Yeah that's a whole $30 worth of gear...

About $80, if you want to quibble about it.

But you're totally correct otherwise. I know that before I abandon a dog in the woods, I make sure to gear him up with tags that list all of my contact details, just in case someone finds him.


Dog runs off, they look for a few, and decide to give up.  Is that so hard to believe?  They called the owner, and were told the dog didn't work.
 
2014-02-03 11:21:22 PM
That dog won the lottery.
 
2014-02-03 11:48:01 PM
I would buy a beer for the rescuers any day (I say as I have 5 rescues, 1 from a shelter and 4 left to fend for themselves on the streets). I can't imagine being so soulless as to think domesticated animals are as disposable as Kleenex.

/meat eater
 
2014-02-04 12:49:15 AM

Elegy: mongbiohazard: Yeah that's a whole $30 worth of gear...

About $80, if you want to quibble about it.

But you're totally correct otherwise. I know that before I abandon a dog in the woods, I make sure to gear him up with tags that list all of my contact details, just in case someone finds him.



I do want to quibble, because I'd lay good odds it was a lot less than that. You can easily find hunting vests for dogs for as little as $15 (and I'm betting the kind of shiathead which would just be all "he doesn't work, fark him" isn't pampering his pup), and a dog tag might cost you $10.

So yeah, $30 is probably a lot closer than your $80. That's chump change, really...
 
2014-02-04 07:20:23 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.


Well, the two guys in the story were hunting.  Hunting fish, that's how you do it, moran.
 
2014-02-04 10:28:10 AM
Elegy:   Bunch of words designed to make someone feel ok with abandoning a dog.

We're two different types of people. You have a human and moral responsibility to look out for your animals.

I'll quote the Bible too: "A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast."
 
2014-02-04 10:44:49 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never met a hunter who wasn't an absolute piece of shiat.


All people who generalize are full of shiat.

/But two cups of coffee, and I'll be roomier by lunch.
 
2014-02-04 02:28:04 PM
The comments are funny.  Seems the abandonee's are trying to defend theyselves - very poorly, I might add.
 
2014-02-04 02:34:08 PM
News flash:  people who use working animals view them as tools, not pets.  

Naturally, a good craftsman will take care of his tools, and even get emotionally attached to them.  But, no matter how fond they are of the animal, ultimately they're kept to do a job and they're expected to earn their keep.  Having a useless pet is a luxury many can't afford.
 
2014-02-04 02:39:21 PM

clyph: News flash:  people who use working animals view them as tools, not pets.  

Naturally, a good craftsman will take care of his tools, and even get emotionally attached to them.  But, no matter how fond they are of the animal, ultimately they're kept to do a job and they're expected to earn their keep.  Having a useless pet is a luxury many can't afford.


News flash: An animal is a living thing with the ability to feel pain and abondonment.  While it is true that a working animal should be functional to be kept, callously abandoning an animal to starve to death is cruel.  I fully believe that almost all farmers and ranchers who would not bat an eye at putting down an unnecessary animals would find abandoning one in the woods to be unacceptable.

And I highly, highly, highly doubt that the hunters in question were hunting as a livelihood.  Once you adopt an animal, you assume responsibility for it.
 
2014-02-04 02:55:37 PM

booger42: The comments are funny.  Seems the abandonee's are trying to defend theyselves - very poorly, I might add.


Just read them.  Good lord, that woman sounds like a babbling moron.  The dog got lucky, I think.
 
2014-02-04 03:04:20 PM

clyph: News flash:  people who use working animals view them as tools, not pets.


Or maybe as companions?

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2014-02-04 03:20:37 PM
There's a couple of really tiny-penised men posting in the comments over there....
 
2014-02-04 03:29:40 PM

MycroftHolmes: News flash: An animal is a living thing with the ability to feel pain and abondonment. While it is true that a working animal should be functional to be kept, callously abandoning an animal to starve to death is cruel. I fully believe that almost all farmers and ranchers who would not bat an eye at putting down an unnecessary animals would find abandoning one in the woods to be unacceptable.

And I highly, highly, highly doubt that the hunters in question were hunting as a livelihood. Once you adopt an animal, you assume responsibility for it.


Don't disagree with anything you said.
 
2014-02-04 04:21:17 PM
Let me know where that dog lives and I will send him a steak. As for the person who abandoned the dog well.........

/ Ya'll find him or her, I got my acetylene torch and vice grips waiting for them.
 
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