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(Washington Examiner)   More than 60% of Republicans oppose the GOP immigration plan, but there are no plans to fence them off   (washingtonexaminer.com) divider line 8
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2014-02-03 09:59:37 PM
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Well, reform is definitely needed.  The immigration laws don't work.  That being said, reform is being used as a code word for amnesty.  We need reform, amnesty is a seriously bad idea.
2014-02-03 09:39:41 PM
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SunsetLament: Lord_Baull: Can't conservatives just follow Reagan's example? What would be wrong with that?

His example?  Or his advice?

Because Reagan said signing the Amnesty was one of the biggest regrets of his Presidency; specifically, that he trusted the Democrats that they would follow through on their promise to enforce the border so it would never happen again.

Reagan was a terrific president, but he did make mistakes.  When he acknowledged them as regretful, it'd be foolish to make the same mistakes over again.  Boehner (Ryan, McCarthy, McConnell, Cornyn) are idiots.


Mmmhmm. The Dems made a pinky swear promise, right?  Whether sufficient funds were appropriated to 'enforce the border' in the late 80s and early 90s is certainly a subject that is worthy of discussion, but Democrats didn't have filibuster proof majorities in any of those Senate's and obviously did not have the white house. The GOP allowed all of those appropriations bills to pass and were signed by Reagan and then HW Bush. And after the GOP took both houses, the problem didn't go away either.  Yet another example of revisionist history in a pathetic attempt to resolve the cognitive dissonance between the fact of Reagan and the myth of St. Reagan.

"Dems broke their promise"... how farking juvenile can you get. If the dems were breaking their 'promise' why didn't the GOP filibuster their promise-breaking spending bills?
2014-02-03 07:25:51 PM
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Lord_Baull: Can't conservatives just follow Reagan's example? What would be wrong with that?


His example?  Or his advice?

Because Reagan said signing the Amnesty was one of the biggest regrets of his Presidency; specifically, that he trusted the Democrats that they would follow through on their promise to enforce the border so it would never happen again.

Reagan was a terrific president, but he did make mistakes.  When he acknowledged them as regretful, it'd be foolish to make the same mistakes over again.  Boehner (Ryan, McCarthy, McConnell, Cornyn) are idiots.
2014-02-03 07:15:07 PM
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It all boils down to this:  The American people will not take seriously any immigration plan that does not have some sort of path to citizenship (nor should they), and there is no path to citizenship, no matter how long or torturous, that GOP voters will not decry as amnesty.

And it's going to be fun watching GOP leadership try to walk that tightrope.
2014-02-03 06:13:21 PM
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UrukHaiGuyz: Because you haven't shown any resulting harm from it, just that the measures intended to stem illegal immigration didn't work.


There a various studies that show the cost and benefits of low skilled immigration both legal and illegal. And most of them show they surpress wages of our lowest skilled workers.

UrukHaiGuyz: Question: What is the functional difference between a wave of immigration and a "baby boom" (especially after a couple of generations, the typical amount of time it takes to assimilate)? Why should we fear one and not the other?


I would fear a baby boom if it happened in this environment, especially if it occurred with a group with a low educational attainment rate.
2014-02-03 04:49:18 PM
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Lord_Baull: Can't conservatives just follow Reagan's example? What would be wrong with that?


Because the smart thing to do is to learn from your past mistakes.
2014-02-03 04:19:55 PM
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Wendy's Chili: Obama's Reptiloid Master: Wendy's Chili: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Wait... the GOP has a plan?

It's called "disenfranchise the messicans and it won't matter who we alienate."

Basically.

Michael Lind nailed it when he said the right wants "voters who don't work and workers who don't vote."

A work force made up of non-citizen permanent residents is up there with Social Security privatization on the evil rich guy wish list.


Along with plenty of patriotic, nationalist jingoism that convinces citizens to send young people to die to enforce the rich guy's desires on foreign countries' stuff.

I wonder, Mr. Chili... is there by chance a sociopolitical ideology based off of the disdain of foreigners while exploiting them for labor for the benefit of a state cartel that also uses nationalism, xenophobia, and militarism to enforce its will geopolitically, to ensure a sufficient glut of resources, a sufficient underclass in need of the cartel's benevolence, all tied together with a strong "traditionalist" family-values based ideology?
2014-02-03 04:16:50 PM
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It was a good indication this "Immigration reform" of the GOP's was going to be a cluster fark when they canceled their press conference after their little Conservative Band Camp they had last week...

Democrats just need to keep their mouths shut for the most part, and let these assholes collapse in on themselves.
 
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