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(Pravda)   2300-year-old calculator discovered. This is how old-school engineers did it   (english.pravda.ru) divider line 23
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2014-02-03 09:29:25 AM  
Multiplication table != calculator.

I was expecting something like a slide rule or perhaps a primitive Pascaline.
 
2014-02-03 10:04:08 AM  

dittybopper: Multiplication table != calculator.

I was expecting something like a slide rule or perhaps a primitive Pascaline.


Same here.  Not only is this a repeat, the headline is wrong.
 
2014-02-03 10:08:19 AM  
5318008
 
2014-02-03 10:14:55 AM  
I never would have bothered learning basic arithmetic if I'd realized I could have just drawn a calculator on a scrap of paper for all those tests where you weren't allowed to use one.
 
2014-02-03 10:26:33 AM  
hah! that is way to high tech for me.  back in my day we didn't use anything as newfangled as bamboo.  we 100 lb slabs of granite.
 
2014-02-03 10:33:06 AM  
80085
 
2014-02-03 10:34:05 AM  
Does it have big, bright numbers, and little rubber feet?

/obscure?
//lawn, off, now
 
2014-02-03 10:37:08 AM  
Every answer was 42.
 
2014-02-03 10:52:48 AM  

dittybopper: Multiplication table != calculator.

I was expecting something like a slide rule or perhaps a primitive Pascaline.


I was hoping for Babbage's Difference Engine or an automated abacus or something.  That would be pretty cool.
"Pravda" should change it's name to "Govno"(Shiat) as that is what I am getting from this article.
 
2014-02-03 11:07:38 AM  

Arkanaut: 5318008


Did they still have to flip it upside-down?
 
2014-02-03 11:09:42 AM  

eyeq360: dittybopper: Multiplication table != calculator.

I was expecting something like a slide rule or perhaps a primitive Pascaline.

I was hoping for Babbage's Difference Engine or an automated abacus or something.  That would be pretty cool.
"Pravda" should change it's name to "Govno"(Shiat) as that is what I am getting from this article.


"There is no 'Truth' in Pravda, and there is no 'News' in Izvestia" - Every farkin' Russian since the nineteen-farkin'-thirties.
 
2014-02-03 11:24:34 AM  

dittybopper: Multiplication table != calculator.

I was expecting something like a slide rule or perhaps a primitive Pascaline.


what do you expect from a journalist?
and technically a multiplication table is a calculator.
it allows you to calculate the product of two integers.
meh
 
2014-02-03 11:31:04 AM  

namatad: dittybopper: Multiplication table != calculator.

I was expecting something like a slide rule or perhaps a primitive Pascaline.

what do you expect from a journalist?
and technically a multiplication table is a calculator.
it allows you to calculate the product of two integers.
meh


I would disagree.  A calculator must perform some action in order to calculate.  The very word 'calculator' is a nouned verb.

A simple times table just sits there and lets you look up the answer instead of performing an action of some kind.
 
2014-02-03 11:35:16 AM  
Napier's Bones?

/dnrtfa
 
2014-02-03 11:41:39 AM  
What a 2000 year old calculator mechanism might look like...


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-03 11:42:02 AM  

Zul the Magnificent: Napier's Bones?

/dnrtfa


If the Chinese had come up with the slide rule, they wouldn't be using the abacus today. Just like if they had come up with the fork, they wouldn't be using chopsticks. Oriental technology took some inscrutable turns.
 
2014-02-03 11:49:43 AM  

Morchella: What a 2000 year old calculator mechanism might look like...


[upload.wikimedia.org image 672x599]


Now *THIS* is the kind of thing I was thinking of, though that's not a general calculator, it's more of a specialized mechanical calendar (but still amazing).
 
2014-02-03 12:04:43 PM  

dittybopper: namatad: dittybopper: Multiplication table != calculator.

I was expecting something like a slide rule or perhaps a primitive Pascaline.

what do you expect from a journalist?
and technically a multiplication table is a calculator.
it allows you to calculate the product of two integers.
meh

I would disagree.  A calculator must perform some action in order to calculate.  The very word 'calculator' is a nouned verb.

A simple times table just sits there and lets you look up the answer instead of performing an action of some kind.


calculation is a deliberate process that transforms one or more inputs into one or more results.
Calculators calculate. Action? LOL

You really dont think that LOOKING UP is an action??
LOL
 
2014-02-03 12:15:41 PM  
Hopefully it didn't use that Reverse Polish Notation crap.

/runs out of the thread.
 
2014-02-03 12:19:00 PM  
I don't see a clear button
 
2014-02-03 12:34:32 PM  

namatad: You really dont think that LOOKING UP is an action??
LOL


Not really, no.

A table doesn't perform a calculation.  It simply displays the calculations done prior, which are then written into the table.

A slide rule, pascaline, abacus, addiator, or other mechanical calculator requires that you manipulate them to calculate.  You don't have to manipulate a times table.  You just look at it.
 
2014-02-03 12:49:29 PM  
What hath God wrought
 
2014-02-03 01:03:25 PM  
I'll bet even 2300 years ago it cost $99 for no obvious reason despite having the same features as the model from 2325 years ago, and having only a miniscule fraction of the power of the other devices everyone's carrying around.
 
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