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(io9)   This fascinating infographic will help you pinpoint the exact point at which a movie goes off the rails   ( divider line
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2014-02-03 02:32:34 AM  
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There are many exceptions to all of those rules. Sometimes something that's terrible on paper can be great in execution. My go-to example: "The Transporter."

The script has a by-the-numbers execution
The story is too thin
The villains are cartoonish, evil-for-the-sake-of-evil
The character logic is muddy
The female part is underwritten
The narrative falls into a repetitive pattern
The protagonist is a standard issue hero
The script favors style over substance
The characters are all stereotypes
The plot unravels through has a lot of convenience/contrivance

Now, if you're looking for an example of a movie that has almost every one of those problems and it does ruin the movie, look no further than "The Transporter 2," which is ruined by this one:

The script suffers from arbitrary complexity

(Ditto "Desperado" vs. "Once Upon a Time in Mexico")
2014-02-03 01:56:38 AM  
2 votes:

ZAZ: As I read the list I tried to apply it to 2001, and decided it was not necessary to take io9 seriously.

Well, there are always exceptions to the rule. 2001 wasn't a very good movie, though, so I'm not sure that list doesn't apply to it as well.
2014-02-03 10:43:57 PM  
1 vote:

Ebert's review of ROTJ, the WORST of the OT. Love this quote:

"One thing the Star Wars movies never do is waste a lot of time on introductions. Unlike a lot of special effects and monster movies, where new creatures are introduced with laborious setups, "Jedi" immediately plunges its alien beasts into the thick of the action. Maybe that's why the film has such a sense of visual richness. Jabba's throne room, for example, is populated with several weird creatures, some of them only half-glimpsed in the corner of the frame. The camera in "Jedi" slides casually past forms of life that would provide the centerpiece for lesser movies. "
2014-02-03 01:51:29 PM  
1 vote:
Star Trek (2009) has all of the problems.
2014-02-03 04:40:15 AM  
1 vote:

deffuse: The average script is 107 pages?!  Single sided, double spacing and breaks between actors groups of lines, that's a really small amount of words.

Correctly formatted one page equals one minute of screen time. So 107 pages means a one hour forty seven minute movie, plus credits.
2014-02-03 02:46:51 AM  
1 vote:

ReapTheChaos: People should spend less time over analyzing movies and just enjoy them as the 90 minute escape from reality they're meant to be. If nothing else, you'll start enjoying them more.

People should stop having no standards, and start demanding better stories and movies.
2014-02-03 01:37:20 AM  
1 vote:
So, was the story problem in Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Ark intentional? Or does a script with that problem so rarely get to a point where you might ask if there is a story problem like that. It seems like it would be next to impossible to actually write a reversible script like that.

The "recurring problem" list is great, and can be applied to most fiction writing. I read Infinite Jest in December and it raised most of these issues, complete with too much complexity while being, muddy character logic (although I think that was a point being made), a supernatural element that almost wasn't there, plenty of off narrative conflict and drama. But the thing that pissed me off what that it didn't really end, it just stopped.

Oh, and the disruptive lulls, I find myself watching movies at double speed with the subtitles sometimes. Like "The Day After Tomorrow" all that expensive CGI snow scape got the FFW.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-02-02 07:51:49 PM  
1 vote:
As I read the list I tried to apply it to 2001, and decided it was not necessary to take io9 seriously.
2014-02-02 06:41:59 PM  
1 vote:
There is this other farker who always comes to my house to watch movies with me and he ALWAYS knows what's going to happen. I know it's a great movie if he doesn't know how it will end. This chart will be very useful.
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