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(Yahoo)   The sport where athletes retire earliest is a) football b) rugby c) gaming   (finance.yahoo.com) divider line 48
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2014-02-02 07:23:23 PM
I thought high divers were the athletes with the shortest careers?
 
2014-02-02 08:39:13 PM
I thought you said sport?
 
2014-02-02 08:40:47 PM
As a 41 year old rugby player, who is not the oldest in his team (and who oft times plays against a 62 year old) I am not guessing rugby. Hell, I played my first A grade game on my 36th birthday.
Not to mention the phenomenon that is golden oldies rugby, where the old farts get together, drink port and piss off their wives by coming home with a torn ACL (again). A mate of mine just broke his hip at a golden oldies tournament. Ouch

now to RTFA
 
2014-02-02 08:41:55 PM
Sitting on your ass playing video games in not considered playing a sport? Those people are athletes? Really, subby?!
 
2014-02-02 08:44:26 PM
I've been bleeding pixels since I could crawl and no, gaming is not a sport. Neither is poker.
 
2014-02-02 08:47:30 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I thought you said sport?

 
2014-02-02 08:47:50 PM

Mentalpatient87: I've been bleeding pixels since I could crawl and no, gaming is not a sport. Neither is poker.


My general rule: if you can actually gain weight while doing it, it is not a sport.
 
2014-02-02 09:31:35 PM
I retired from gaming at 25 because, you know, I got a life.
 
2014-02-02 09:37:49 PM
The problem is that the games which are now considered "competitive" (i.e. the games that people think are worth playing purely for the spectacle of human competition) pretty much run the range from average to ass: StarCraft II, League of Legends, Dota 2, and Street Fighter IV are the ones that get most of the buzz these days and all of pale to other choices.

stuhayes2010: I gave up a hobby because I gave in to societal pressure instead of doing what I enjoy in order to seize some nonexistent high ground which represents "maturity"


Fixed.
 
2014-02-02 09:39:04 PM

Mentalpatient87: I've been bleeding pixels since I could crawl and no, gaming is not a sport. Neither is poker.


What about golf?
 
2014-02-02 09:42:52 PM

Mike_LowELL: The problem is that the games which are now considered "competitive" (i.e. the games that people think are worth playing purely for the spectacle of human competition) pretty much run the range from average to ass: StarCraft II, League of Legends, Dota 2, and Street Fighter IV are the ones that get most of the buzz these days and all of pale to other choices.

stuhayes2010: I gave up a hobby because I gave in to societal pressure instead of doing what I enjoy in order to seize some nonexistent high ground which represents "maturity"

Fixed.


Not to mention a lot of what used to be popular, first person shooters in particular, have either evolved in form or just died in popularity, and the skills of one genre rarely transfer to another.
 
2014-02-02 09:46:21 PM
I used to be a gamer, then I took an arrow to the knee.
 
2014-02-02 10:02:31 PM
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Pixx!
 
2014-02-02 10:55:24 PM
Reflexes are the first to go.
 
2014-02-02 11:01:15 PM
Women's gymnastics.  You hit puberty, you're done.
 
2014-02-02 11:03:52 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Sitting on your ass playing video games in not considered playing a sport? Those people are athletes? Really, subby?!


Same abilities as racing.
/still questionable
//mental reflex stamina
 
2014-02-02 11:36:36 PM
Over the last six years I've watched modern flat track roller derby chew up and spit out professional athletes at an amazing rate.  On average It seems the top skaters get two to three seasons in before their bodies are just too broken to play at a Division 1 level.  Broken legs, blown knees, blown backs, ruined ankles, I've seen it all.

With gaming I'd worry less about burning out and having to retire and more about sitting motionless 14 hours a day and throwing a clot into my lungs or brain and killing me outright.
 
2014-02-03 12:28:09 AM

sn0wblind: ArcadianRefugee: Sitting on your ass playing video games in not considered playing a sport? Those people are athletes? Really, subby?!

Same abilities as racing.
/still questionable
//mental reflex stamina


You can lose weight while racing.

/I presume you mean NASCAR et al
//mental reflex stamina does not a sport make
 
2014-02-03 01:13:55 AM

FormlessOne: Reflexes are the first to go.


Reflexes are overrated. Having a quick twitch is a bad thing if you make poor decisions. I agree with the article that it is more akin to high pressure test taking. It's like trying to solve those logic problems on the LSAT only with the added difficulty that the logic problems keep trying to kill you. It is the mental stamina that goes first.
 
2014-02-03 01:47:06 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Mentalpatient87: I've been bleeding pixels since I could crawl and no, gaming is not a sport. Neither is poker.

My general rule: if you can actually gain weight while doing it, it is not a sport.


You choose Superbowl day to rule Gridiron out as a sport?  That's a bit harsh...
 
2014-02-03 02:03:45 AM
Get off their lawn.
upload.wikimedia.org

And told those two whippersnappers to keep off her lawn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Self
 
2014-02-03 03:18:50 AM

ArcadianRefugee: sn0wblind: ArcadianRefugee: Sitting on your ass playing video games in not considered playing a sport? Those people are athletes? Really, subby?!

Same abilities as racing.
/still questionable
//mental reflex stamina

You can lose weight while racing.

/I presume you mean NASCAR et al
//mental reflex stamina does not a sport make


If I remember some amateurs who have driven race cars are amazed at how sore their necks get after fighting the centripedal forces going around turns for hours on end. Hell, nascar cup cars pull over 1g (F1 cars go higher), I imagine it would be like trying to sit straight in a chair that is bolted to a wall (yes, I know the seats they use are bolstered to keep them in place, the 5 point harness, roll bars, hans device, etc.) And they also have to deal with sitting in small boxes next to extremely hot engines, wearing fire resistant suits, on black asphalt that was go over 100 degrees in the heat. Can't even imagine myself able to keep my wits about not wreck much less compete in that.
 
2014-02-03 03:36:52 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I thought you said sport?


I think there are a couple tournament leagues which are sports now.  It's apparently an actual legal/tax category that you have to apply for and get approved by a government body, something I didn't know until the League of Legends people apparently went off and did it.  I'd always thought it was just a colloquially-defined word whose definition we'd made up in the last century or so.  I mean, it is, but it's also an official category thing regulated to an extent by the government.

Which, entertainingly, means that if there are ever people using amphetamines to stay awake playing in DOA tournaments, the investigation could fall under the direct purview of  congress.  Could be funny.
 
2014-02-03 06:27:54 AM

worlddan: Reflexes are overrated. Having a quick twitch is a bad thing if you make poor decisions. I agree with the article that it is more akin to high pressure test taking. It's like trying to solve those logic problems on the LSAT only with the added difficulty that the logic problems keep trying to kill you. It is the mental stamina that goes first.


And yet Doyle Brunson is still playing poker well into his 80s....
 
2014-02-03 07:04:44 AM

worlddan: FormlessOne: Reflexes are the first to go.

Reflexes are overrated. Having a quick twitch is a bad thing if you make poor decisions. I agree with the article that it is more akin to high pressure test taking. It's like trying to solve those logic problems on the LSAT only with the added difficulty that the logic problems keep trying to kill you. It is the mental stamina that goes first.


Not in competitive fighting games they aren't.  Yeah, you absolutely have to have good decision making, but just as important is being able to react to what is on the screen in 1/60th of a second.  You also have to make complicated inputs with that same 1/60th of a second timing.  Competitive fighting games are not a genre for old people, and by old, I mean in your 30s.
 
2014-02-03 07:25:18 AM
That's weird. Why would anyone want to sit and watch someone else play a game?
 
2014-02-03 07:41:22 AM

stuhayes2010: I retired from gaming at 25 because, you know, I got a life.


Yup. How much does a pro gamer even make?
 
2014-02-03 08:28:27 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I thought you said sport?


Gaming is less of a sport than golf or even Frisbee golf
 
2014-02-03 08:50:14 AM
It's not a sport if playing it makes you LESS likely to get laid.
 
2014-02-03 09:18:30 AM
I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Halo boom again. Like Walshy said, back in 2005 it was the start of something massive,then by 2010 it had all but died out. Granted most of it was due to Bungie completely ruining Halo (for which we have Call of Duty to thank as well), but like all things it had to come to an end. I am just glad I was able to go along for the ride!

Here's Dave and myself circa 2008:  http://tinypic.com/r/33kztxs/8
 
2014-02-03 09:45:00 AM

2wolves: Women's gymnastics.  You hit puberty, you're done.


Yeah, this. Every now and then you'll see a 19 year old competing, and the commentators will marvel about how well she can do for her age.
 
2014-02-03 09:51:54 AM
If stuff like bowling and billiards are sports then gaming sure can be one too.

stuhayes2010: I retired from gaming at 25 because, you know, I got a life.


That kind of attitude is stupid and juvenile.
 
2014-02-03 10:43:47 AM

nocturnal001: That kind of attitude is stupid and juvenile.


I know you are but what am I?!
 
2014-02-03 11:02:49 AM

CapnPlaty: stuhayes2010: I retired from gaming at 25 because, you know, I got a life.

Yup. How much does a pro gamer even make?


There's a winner-take-all Starcraft 2 tournament for $100,000 in a month or so. I have heard that DOTA2 and League of Legends have prizes in excess of $1 million for a 5 player team. That's aside from advertising deals and sponsorships.

I'd bet the top 20-50 players in a competitive game make six figures a year, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could pay the bills when you're ranked in the 100s.
 
2014-02-03 11:03:57 AM
*would be surprised. Nobody cares about the people who bomb out in the round of 32 consistently.
 
2014-02-03 11:08:27 AM

Jubeebee: CapnPlaty: stuhayes2010: I retired from gaming at 25 because, you know, I got a life.

Yup. How much does a pro gamer even make?

There's a winner-take-all Starcraft 2 tournament for $100,000 in a month or so. I have heard that DOTA2 and League of Legends have prizes in excess of $1 million for a 5 player team. That's aside from advertising deals and sponsorships.

I'd bet the top 20-50 players in a competitive game make six figures a year, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could pay the bills when you're ranked in the 100s.



Seems likely. My younger brother is obsessed with DOTA. Don't forget all the revenue from youtube channels etc. He wants to be a competitive gamer but I've strongly discouraged him. I can't imagine it could possibly be a long term career for even the best.
 
2014-02-03 11:12:21 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Sitting on your ass playing video games in not considered playing a sport? Those people are athletes? Really, subby?!


League of Legends is going to be played at the Olympics in 2016.

So yeah, I guess it is.
 
2014-02-03 11:12:23 AM

flaminio: 2wolves: Women's gymnastics.  You hit puberty, you're done.

Yeah, this. Every now and then you'll see a 19 year old competing, and the commentators will marvel about how well she can do for her age.


One other thing about women's gymnastics is that an athlete's peak performance time is very short. There are gymnasts as good as any Olympic gold medal winner, but because they peaked in an off-Olympics year, no one's ever heard of them. Gabby Douglas, who was a delight in London, peaked at exactly the right time. Two years earlier or later and she'd be completely anonymous.
 
2014-02-03 12:11:37 PM

nocturnal001: If stuff like bowling and billiards are sports then gaming sure can be one too.


None of those are sports.  They're games.  Not all games are sports.
 
2014-02-03 12:58:53 PM

abhorrent1: That's weird. Why would anyone want to sit and watch someone else play a game?


Half of your country did just that yesterday.
 
2014-02-03 01:09:11 PM

idesofmarch: nocturnal001: If stuff like bowling and billiards are sports then gaming sure can be one too.

None of those are sports.  They're games.  Not all games are sports.


Not that I want to lobby to have playing video games be considered as sports, but I don't see that much difference between some of them and other "sports".
 
2014-02-03 01:23:57 PM

nocturnal001: idesofmarch: nocturnal001: If stuff like bowling and billiards are sports then gaming sure can be one too.

None of those are sports.  They're games.  Not all games are sports.

Not that I want to lobby to have playing video games be considered as sports, but I don't see that much difference between some of them and other "sports".


Examples?  Because I'm in the camp that auto racing is not a sport. Poker sure as hell is not a sport, and anybody who thinks chess is a sport needs a swift kick in the ass.
 
2014-02-03 01:50:17 PM

idesofmarch: nocturnal001: idesofmarch: nocturnal001: If stuff like bowling and billiards are sports then gaming sure can be one too.

None of those are sports.  They're games.  Not all games are sports.

Not that I want to lobby to have playing video games be considered as sports, but I don't see that much difference between some of them and other "sports".

Examples?  Because I'm in the camp that auto racing is not a sport. Poker sure as hell is not a sport, and anybody who thinks chess is a sport needs a swift kick in the ass.


Before I mock you, could you elaborate?
 
2014-02-03 02:25:24 PM

TheSup3rN0va: Before I mock you, could you elaborate?


You know I'm not super interested in getting into this debate YET AGAIN because I know I'm right.

The simple answer is BECAUSE THEY ARE DRIVING CARS.  I don't care if it's physically demanding, I don't care that it can require fine motor skills (no pun intended), I don't care that it's competitive.  I don't care about anything else you think you can throw at this, because none of it changes the fact that they're driving cars.  I don't consider races to really be sports in general, but at least footraces are completely reliant on the actual athlete's physical capabilities.
 
2014-02-03 04:53:17 PM

idesofmarch: TheSup3rN0va: Before I mock you, could you elaborate?

You know I'm not super interested in getting into this debate YET AGAIN because I know I'm right.

The simple answer is BECAUSE THEY ARE DRIVING CARS.  I don't care if it's physically demanding, I don't care that it can require fine motor skills (no pun intended), I don't care that it's competitive.  I don't care about anything else you think you can throw at this, because none of it changes the fact that they're driving cars.  I don't consider races to really be sports in general, but at least footraces are completely reliant on the actual athlete's physical capabilities.


It's well within your right to believe invalid truths, and far be it from me to try and tell you otherwise
 
2014-02-03 04:59:23 PM
idesofmarch
I don't consider races to really be sports in general

People have been racing for sport for over 17,300 years. So what's your deal, are you a wrestling purist?
 
2014-02-03 05:15:55 PM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: idesofmarch
I don't consider races to really be sports in general

People have been racing for sport for over 17,300 years. So what's your deal, are you a wrestling purist?


I don't really care about wrestling.

TheSup3rN0va: It's well within your right to believe invalid truths, and far be it from me to try and tell you otherwise


And it's within your right to have terrible misconceptions, but you should probably rid yourself of them before you end up sounding foolish.
 
2014-02-03 08:01:28 PM

Ned Stark: League of Legends is going to be played at the Olympics in 2016


[citationplease.jpg]


So yeah, I guess it is.

No it doesn't; it merely makes them an Olympic competitor.


Seriously though, [citationplease.jpg]. And not just a Reddit or Kotaku link, since the only things I can find are dated back to August and all of the "guess what, guys?" variety.
 
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