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2014-02-03 12:41:26 AM  
cman:
Will never happen.

The Internet is not going to devolve into BBS-like systems.

Its against its culture. The Internet is decentralized. Anyone who tries to subvert this will lose all their customers. They do push hard but they would never push that hard.


upload.wikimedia.org

You were saying?
 
2014-02-03 12:45:43 AM  

soundguy: Start home-based business

Sign up for business internet plan

Do anything you want - no port blocking, no DNS redirecting, no bandwidth limits, run servers 24/7

Write off cost of business internet as business expense

3) - profit

Point and laugh at the poors and the stupids


Until you have to pay capital gains tax later.
 
2014-02-03 12:50:30 AM  
I see a lot pf people still don't get it.


Your neutral provider that you switch to won't help if your backbone carrier farks you over.
 
2014-02-03 12:53:59 AM  
We live in a society where no business with more than 20 employees answers their own phones.  Stop waiting for that to change.
 
2014-02-03 01:04:41 AM  

arkansized: Teresaol31: I swear to god they already are doing this and have been violating "Net Neutrality" in my area for at least two years.  I can sit around gaming, commenting on fark, facebooking, and doing research all day, and my DSL is running correctly.  Mind you this is DSL on AT&T in the middle of podunk Arkansas, where my only other internet options are:  56k dial up (yeah really) or highly unreliable satellite service that goes out every time it gets cloudy outside. Anyway, the second I start streaming, be it YouTube, Netflix, or Amazon Prime, and suddenly, my DSL is a shaky, slow POS.  It will literally slow down to the point that Netflix thinks it has dropped the server altogether.  So, I call and talk to "customer service" and get some moron in India that does not even know where podunk, Arkansas IS and he tries to make like this is a hardware problem on my end...until I tell him it happens on my PC, on my PS 3, on my Wii, and on my Tivo with equal reliability.  At which point, my phone call is conveniently "dropped" because, duh, Indian dude needs that job at the call center!

I feel for ya, sis. Partially solved my problem by using my smartphone as a modem. If you have a solid phone signal you oughta be able to purchase PDAnet and use that phone signal as your internet connection. It is invisible to your phone service, you won't have to pay the $ per month Big Red wants to charge for THEIR plan.
Speeds are good- I can watch a movie with few if any hiccups.

/podunk Florida
//used to live in podunk Arkansas


PDAnet traffic is not invisible. I can use it to tether but it hits my data cap.
 
2014-02-03 01:21:36 AM  

pyrotek85: pla: cman : Anyone who tries to subvert this will lose all their customers.

To whom, exactly?

Most Americans have zero, one, or two realistic choices for internet access (I'll exclude bad jokes like HughesNet and going back to dialup). Personally, I have exactly one choice for "broadband", and by that word I mean only one tiny notch above satellite internet.

If my ISP decided to ban the entire world of Google (search, GMail, YouTube, etc), I couldn't do a damned thing about it except smile and apply the complimentary lube.

Wait a second, you get lube?!


Bite the pillow, Im going in dry
 
2014-02-03 01:24:34 AM  
Oooo I am sooo glad I ditched AT&T totally 6 months ago (even phone service). Before the ditch, DSL was down more than up (due to the lineman's laziness to not visually inspect the lines), phone service was shoddy at best, and was costing me $120+ a month. Now, I use two cable internet lines (at 5x DSL speeds a piece), and two MagicJacks for phone service (still use a fax), plus unlimited Epix... $99/month. Cell service, ditched AT&T 2 years ago for Sprint, and pay the same price I paid for basic service... to full-on 4G LTE service.

Here's the other nutso part: my cable company is ten times better in customer service vs AT&T, and actually gets a lineman out the day you call in a problem (sometimes 2-3 and a supervisor). And usually one visit takes care of the issue.
 
2014-02-03 01:25:01 AM  

sgrams04: soundguy: Start home-based business

Sign up for business internet plan

Do anything you want - no port blocking, no DNS redirecting, no bandwidth limits, run servers 24/7

Write off cost of business internet as business expense

3) - profit

Point and laugh at the poors and the stupids

Until you have to pay capital gains tax later.


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Sounds like someone needs a better accountant
 
2014-02-03 01:53:53 AM  
filter
I see a lot pf people still don't get it.
Your neutral provider that you switch to won't help if your backbone carrier farks you over.


Explain more like we are kids. There are plenty of people, even those that work in IT that don't understand the specifics of the last mile, backbone, ect.
 
2014-02-03 01:58:16 AM  
Two words: community broadband. Fark their monopolies and shiatty business practices.

Yes I realize some states have made it, or are trying to make it illegal. Those laws need to go away.
 
2014-02-03 02:01:20 AM  

ZeroCorpse: AT&T sucks. I'm quitting them tomorrow after a really lousy 3/4 of a month with frequent drop-outs, slow-downs, and snotty reps on the phone.

Back to the cable company, for me.


I have the opposite problem. I have high speed DSL for $20 a month with AT&T, and the DL speeds on my laptop, Smart TV, 3DS XL, and PS3 are blazing fast, with hardly a hiccup.
 
2014-02-03 02:07:21 AM  

soundguy: Start home-based business

Sign up for business internet plan

Do anything you want - no port blocking, no DNS redirecting, no bandwidth limits, run servers 24/7

Write off cost of business internet as business expense

3) - profit

Point and laugh at the poors and the stupids


4) Get visit from IRS.
 
2014-02-03 02:27:11 AM  
Well, I'm gonna miss you people.

No wonder my Roku boxes drop from 4 dots to 2 dots. Choking off my free content.

The sad thing is there's still an amazing amount of learning available but I'm pretty sure the free university classes, DIY videos and other informative content will be throttled down to nothing.
 
2014-02-03 02:37:42 AM  
......Wow, and to think that I even once considered signing up with AT&T at one point, just after moving into my house.

Windstream has been nothing short of spectacular with uptime and customer service in the almost six years I've had them. Hopefully they won't embrace the dark side anytime soon.
 
2014-02-03 03:07:06 AM  

dericwater: soundguy: Start home-based business

Sign up for business internet plan

Do anything you want - no port blocking, no DNS redirecting, no bandwidth limits, run servers 24/7

Write off cost of business internet as business expense

3) - profit

Point and laugh at the poors and the stupids


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4) Get visit from IRS.

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This is the THIRD incredibly clueless response to my original post. Is there ANYONE on Fark that has even the slightest clue about how running a business works?
 
2014-02-03 03:07:11 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: ZeroCorpse: AT&T sucks. I'm quitting them tomorrow after a really lousy 3/4 of a month with frequent drop-outs, slow-downs, and snotty reps on the phone.

Back to the cable company, for me.

I have the opposite problem. I have high speed DSL for $20 a month with AT&T, and the DL speeds on my laptop, Smart TV, 3DS XL, and PS3 are blazing fast, with hardly a hiccup.


Mine's the opposite from AT&T, and cable is 5x times faster.
 
2014-02-03 03:11:20 AM  
I had chosen my last home specifically with internet access in mind. Between offer acceptance and closing it was announced that the company I wanted to go with was swapping territories with Comcast, who I did not want.

Apparently that is not considered a reason to withdraw an offer on a house. It should be though.

Even if you move to get a particular utility you still have no choice and it can be taken away at a whim. There is no beating the system. One company controls your phone service, one controls your cable service and the resellers don't matter because they don't control the infrastructure. Those lucky few that have good local utilities (Smithville in Monroe County, Indiana is an example) still don't have a say in their utilities and they could wake up tomorrow to news of a buyout.
 
2014-02-03 03:24:31 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Kahabut ,
You act like you are utterly unaware that there is a fairly solid history of these kinds of things. You can't run a webserver from your house, you used to be able to. You can't run a mail server, you used to be able to. You can't run an FTP server... etc etc etc. Slow boil.
VPN restrictions already exist on some carriers. I had to call the tech line and get a exception registered for my mom's house on her DSL to be able to VPN to her office (INTEL for crying out loud).
I've personally had various services either cancel my service, or threaten to over the years over a number of issues. From running a private FTP to having bit torrent to having (actual quote) "a lot of encrypted traffic". (comcast actually canceled me for that) And again a year later for "exceeding your bandwidth limits" on my unlimited access plan. Apparently if you transfer 200gigs a month, they get pissy. To be fair, I saw that one coming.

I am hardly a n00b to vpn issues. NAT issues at some hotels, ect. I have heard of other restrictions but have never heard of having to tell people to contact their service provider to enable secure vpn networks. That one is completely new for me.


Granted, it's a tiny DSL service provider in a rural area, so probably not representative.

/I really should have mentioned that
 
2014-02-03 03:27:59 AM  

Zroop: Fine. So far. For years I've run servers on every internet connection that I've had; cable, DSL, even 3g. FTP, SSH, WWW, email. Never any problems. They are all low traffic, and just for testing purposes, and remote backup for when I'm traveling. I've never had any kind of commercial account.

/also always known my days are numbered


I almost always get away with it until more than a handful of unique IP addresses start hitting the server, then I get a letter, and a shut off notice to follow most of the time.

I've run a couple that slipped by, but I GUARANTEE if you read your contract it says you aren't allowed to do most or any of that kind of thing.
 
2014-02-03 03:36:21 AM  

soundguy: dericwater: soundguy: Start home-based business

Sign up for business internet plan

Do anything you want - no port blocking, no DNS redirecting, no bandwidth limits, run servers 24/7

Write off cost of business internet as business expense

3) - profit

Point and laugh at the poors and the stupids

------

4) Get visit from IRS.

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This is the THIRD incredibly clueless response to my original post. Is there ANYONE on Fark that has even the slightest clue about how running a business works?


You're the farking stupid idiot who doesn't understand that you can't just call it a business and write off the expense if you don't earn income from doing so.
 
2014-02-03 03:51:21 AM  

soundguy: This is the THIRD incredibly clueless response to my original post. Is there ANYONE on Fark that has even the slightest clue about how running a business works?


Yes.  Several of us.

Funny story, you're entire cunning plan was without merit, since you can sign up for business class service without a business.

You are also suggesting that people commit tax fraud (which if you actually were a business person, you would probably know).

I'm curious though, how did you plan to register the business?  SP?  LLC?  INC?  Seriously, which of these options do you think lets you commit tax fraud?

If you actually ran a business on your business class connection, no matter the profit/loss for the business, you could do what you suggest.
However, you can't just create a DBA and register it, and then claim business write offs on your personal taxes.  You also can't create a false report of income or loss to file with the business taxes, so you can't write anything off in the way of business expense, because you didn't farking have a business.

Careful kiddo, some of us on fark actually DO this stuff for a living.  If you are doing half of what you have claimed in this thread, you are going to be in a world of trouble when the IRS catches up to you, and I assure you, they will.
 
2014-02-03 04:19:36 AM  

cman: Anyone who tries to subvert this will lose all their customers.


Huh, you must live in an area with a choice between two or more providers.  Must be nice.
 
2014-02-03 05:27:28 AM  

dericwater: soundguy: dericwater: soundguy: Start home-based business

Sign up for business internet plan

Do anything you want - no port blocking, no DNS redirecting, no bandwidth limits, run servers 24/7

Write off cost of business internet as business expense

3) - profit

Point and laugh at the poors and the stupids

------

4) Get visit from IRS.

------

This is the THIRD incredibly clueless response to my original post. Is there ANYONE on Fark that has even the slightest clue about how running a business works?

You're the farking stupid idiot who doesn't understand that you can't just call it a business and write off the expense if you don't earn income from doing so.


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What part of "start a business" do you not understand? A REAL BUSINESS. With income, cash flow, expenses etc. Sell the extra crap in your garage. That's a BUSINESS. Do freelance work in whatever field you are reasonably good at. That's a BUSINESS. Do landscaping for your neighbors. That's a BUSINESS. As long as you turn some kind of profit in 3 out of of 5 years, it's legit as far as the IRS is concerned.
 
2014-02-03 05:51:26 AM  

soundguy: dericwater: soundguy: dericwater: soundguy: Start home-based business

Sign up for business internet plan

Do anything you want - no port blocking, no DNS redirecting, no bandwidth limits, run servers 24/7

Write off cost of business internet as business expense

3) - profit

Point and laugh at the poors and the stupids

------

4) Get visit from IRS.

------

This is the THIRD incredibly clueless response to my original post. Is there ANYONE on Fark that has even the slightest clue about how running a business works?

You're the farking stupid idiot who doesn't understand that you can't just call it a business and write off the expense if you don't earn income from doing so.

------

What part of "start a business" do you not understand? A REAL BUSINESS. With income, cash flow, expenses etc. Sell the extra crap in your garage. That's a BUSINESS. Do freelance work in whatever field you are reasonably good at. That's a BUSINESS. Do landscaping for your neighbors. That's a BUSINESS. As long as you turn some kind of profit in 3 out of of 5 years, it's legit as far as the IRS is concerned.


So is the business your primary thought, or is reducing the cost of internet service your primary thought? If the former, then it would have been done immediately. If the latter, good luck making that business exist for more than 3 years. Most start-ups don't get past 2 years.
 
2014-02-03 06:13:51 AM  

Kahabut: soundguy: This is the THIRD incredibly clueless response to my original post. Is there ANYONE on Fark that has even the slightest clue about how running a business works?

Yes.  Several of us.

Funny story, you're entire cunning plan was without merit, since you can sign up for business class service without a business.

You are also suggesting that people commit tax fraud (which if you actually were a business person, you would probably know).

I'm curious though, how did you plan to register the business?  SP?  LLC?  INC?  Seriously, which of these options do you think lets you commit tax fraud?

If you actually ran a business on your business class connection, no matter the profit/loss for the business, you could do what you suggest.
However, you can't just create a DBA and register it, and then claim business write offs on your personal taxes.  You also can't create a false report of income or loss to file with the business taxes, so you can't write anything off in the way of business expense, because you didn't farking have a business.

Careful kiddo, some of us on fark actually DO this stuff for a living.  If you are doing half of what you have claimed in this thread, you are going to be in a world of trouble when the IRS catches up to you, and I assure you, they will.


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See my response to the previous "expert". Like him, you apparently have reading comprehension problems. "start a BUSINESS" means exactly that. Nowhere did I say "PRETEND to start a fake business and then try to fark the IRS"

Yes, some of us DO actually do this stuff for a living, KIDDO. For the the last 39 years, to be exact. I currently operate 2 LLCs, an S-corp, and a couple of DBAs. I have a lawyer, an accounting firm, a registered agent, multiple commercial bank accounts, and servers in multiple countries. I administer everything from my home office, which I lease back to the corporation, all nice and legal. The IRS agrees.

Anyway, this discussion was about business internet service, which even at the lowest tier is going to be pushing $100 a month. If internet is extremely important to your life, you can just STFU and pay it, and you probably won't have to worry about crappy service or restrictions ever again. Alternately, if you put in even a tiny amount of effort, you can create a legitimate home-based business and if the business requires that internet connection*, then it's a business expense, just like everything else required to keep the business running. The IRS is pretty reasonable about legit business expenditures. Just don't claim anything you can't back up with receipts and documentation.

* if you do business communications over the net, it's justified. Drop a mail and/or web server in the closet that services your business domain and it's justified.
 
2014-02-03 08:05:43 AM  
Did anyone in the comments actually read the patent? This is a hardware patent to restrict bandwidth usage in wireless devices. It is meant to control people from hogging channel bandwidth, not restrict what sites you access.
 
2014-02-03 08:56:35 AM  

criiiiiisp: Did anyone in the comments actually read the patent? This is a hardware patent to restrict bandwidth usage in wireless devices. It is meant to control people from hogging channel bandwidth, not restrict what sites you access.


Read the patent? Hell, I didn't even read this post. But I seriously believe that Cox cable throttles my free content over Roku. Particularly YouTube. But I'd rather deal in generalities than actually prove my theory.
 
2014-02-03 09:34:57 AM  

soundguy: There's always the option to simply move to someplace that doesn't suck balls. I run an online business, so internet access is a primary concern for me. When I bought my current house, I limited my search to only those suburban Seattle areas that were served by FIOS. With each succeeding generation, fast, reliable internet access becomes more and more of a requirement for a "normal" life. Eventually, areas with limited options for shiatty, overpriced service will suffer lower property values as "connected" people refuse to move there. That's going to hit taxing authorities right in the wallet and ultimately, we might see some intelligent last-mile regulation being put on the table.


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^ Typical "free-market", Ayn Rand derp-fest.  ^

Anyway you look at it, the net is a utility.  Utilities are natural monopolies.  Using the "free market" to pound a square peg utility into the round consumer bunger, will lead to predictably unpleasant results for the consumer.   Net neurtrality is going to put the hurt on poor and middle class people, while your "betters" won't notice any change at all.

As for your property value example, riddle me this, Rand Boob:   Why is that houses in New Jersey towns were property taxes can exceed $20K per year for single family detached homes have some of the hottest real estate markets while houses in towns with reasonable taxes go begging?    Hint: Net access is available in both places.
 
2014-02-03 09:47:25 AM  

cman: Anyone who tries to subvert this will lose all their customers.


Unless mega-corp buys up all of it's competitors, then what smart guy?

Granted you can probably still go with the 'Boost mobile' of internetz...but who would want thtat?
 
2014-02-03 09:47:39 AM  

rewind2846: The phrase "I told you so" doesn't even begin to cover this madness.


"I told you so" doesn't count until the thing actually happens in real life.
 
2014-02-03 09:56:19 AM  

Kahabut: The internet was built on the concept that each node (computer) would have equal access and could both serve and receive the same as any other node.  However, ISPs decided that they could make a lot more money by metering access and restricting what kind of access you got for your money.


A lot of that decision was also driven by distributing content from a headend.

Funneling traffic upstream combines the noise from each line resulting in more dropped packets.

That was why you could get asynchronous 768kbps in 1997 for $80 a month but a dedicated 1.54Mbps T1 was $1600 a month in Akron, OH.

It's a tradeoff that consumers were happy to make for the savings.
 
2014-02-03 09:59:29 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: DubtodaIll: Why does greed go so unchecked in this country?

Freedom.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-03 10:21:47 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: criiiiiisp: Did anyone in the comments actually read the patent? This is a hardware patent to restrict bandwidth usage in wireless devices. It is meant to control people from hogging channel bandwidth, not restrict what sites you access.

Read the patent? Hell, I didn't even read this post. But I seriously believe that Cox cable throttles my free content over Roku. Particularly YouTube. But I'd rather deal in generalities than actually prove my theory.


I can't find the Youtube channel in order to install it on my Roku2. I must be bad at Internet, because I've tried looking for it twice.
 
2014-02-03 11:08:32 AM  

Pangea: TheShavingofOccam123: criiiiiisp: Did anyone in the comments actually read the patent? This is a hardware patent to restrict bandwidth usage in wireless devices. It is meant to control people from hogging channel bandwidth, not restrict what sites you access.

Read the patent? Hell, I didn't even read this post. But I seriously believe that Cox cable throttles my free content over Roku. Particularly YouTube. But I'd rather deal in generalities than actually prove my theory.

I can't find the Youtube channel in order to install it on my Roku2. I must be bad at Internet, because I've tried looking for it twice.


I think YouTube is available on Roku 3 but grandfathered private channel on all other Roku units. I've never forgiven Roku for abandoning dual-band on Roku 2 without telling anyone.
 
2014-02-03 11:20:07 AM  

Teresaol31: Anyway, the second I start streaming, be it YouTube, Netflix, or Amazon Prime, and suddenly, my DSL is a shaky, slow POS.


They do it where I live too.  They seem to have improved it recently though.  They have it set now right on the line before Netflix will stop working.  It looks like an early YouTube video.  From what I've seen by watching counters on my router they have it throttled down to about 500k.
 
2014-02-03 11:22:20 AM  
TheShavingofOccam123: I think YouTube is available on Roku 3 but grandfathered private channel on all other Roku units. I've never forgiven Roku for abandoning dual-band on Roku 2 without telling anyone.

I'm generally pleased with what I got for the money. Although the available news channels are limited. I was not aware that MSNBC goes as far left as FOX goes right, until I got to see Ed Shultz, Al Sharpton and Karen Finney next to each other. It helps me to keep a healthy dose of skepticism from all sources.

My Roku makes Netflix, Amazon Prime, and PBS very convenient along with my antenna. Cable for me is nothing but an Internet provider.
 
2014-02-03 11:25:58 AM  

paygun: Teresaol31: Anyway, the second I start streaming, be it YouTube, Netflix, or Amazon Prime, and suddenly, my DSL is a shaky, slow POS.

They do it where I live too.  They seem to have improved it recently though.  They have it set now right on the line before Netflix will stop working.  It looks like an early YouTube video.  From what I've seen by watching counters on my router they have it throttled down to about 500k.


I can't help but wonder if it's the source provider being over-saturated rather than the service provider. Netflix is generally pretty blocky with a decent amount of artifacts in my area. Meanwhile Amazon Prime videos are crisp and sound awesome.

I notice that when streaming free channels over Roku the content will sometimes buffer, but those ads are always immediate. It seems unlikely that my ISP would make any distinction, but the content server sure knows what drives revenue.
 
2014-02-03 12:01:32 PM  
This country sucks.
 
2014-02-03 12:22:21 PM  

Fissile: Why is that houses in New Jersey towns were property taxes can exceed $20K per year for single family detached homes have some of the hottest real estate markets while houses in towns with reasonable taxes go begging?    Hint: Net access is available in both places.


[citation needed]
 
2014-02-03 01:49:09 PM  

soundguy: Kahabut: soundguy: This is the THIRD incredibly clueless response to my original post. Is there ANYONE on Fark that has even the slightest clue about how running a business works?

Yes.  Several of us.

Funny story, you're entire cunning plan was without merit, since you can sign up for business class service without a business.

You are also suggesting that people commit tax fraud (which if you actually were a business person, you would probably know).

I'm curious though, how did you plan to register the business?  SP?  LLC?  INC?  Seriously, which of these options do you think lets you commit tax fraud?

If you actually ran a business on your business class connection, no matter the profit/loss for the business, you could do what you suggest.
However, you can't just create a DBA and register it, and then claim business write offs on your personal taxes.  You also can't create a false report of income or loss to file with the business taxes, so you can't write anything off in the way of business expense, because you didn't farking have a business.

Careful kiddo, some of us on fark actually DO this stuff for a living.  If you are doing half of what you have claimed in this thread, you are going to be in a world of trouble when the IRS catches up to you, and I assure you, they will.

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See my response to the previous "expert". Like him, you apparently have reading comprehension problems. "start a BUSINESS" means exactly that. Nowhere did I say "PRETEND to start a fake business and then try to fark the IRS"

Yes, some of us DO actually do this stuff for a living, KIDDO. For the the last 39 years, to be exact. I currently operate 2 LLCs, an S-corp, and a couple of DBAs. I have a lawyer, an accounting firm, a registered agent, multiple commercial bank accounts, and servers in multiple countries. I administer everything from my home office, which I lease back to the corporation, all nice and legal. The IRS agrees.

Anyway, this discussion was about business internet ...


It's funny how justifying yourself can make a pretty big difference.  I admit, I misread your Boobies.  Now you sound like you know what you are talking about.

Also if you are as old as you just claimed you aren't supposed to be offended by "kiddo".  It works on the youngin's, most adults just laugh.  It's a tell.

BTW, I'm curious what your business is now?  I run a hosting provider and web design company with a heap of desktop support on top. I do it in a tiny little coastal town, rather than a metro area.
 
2014-02-03 02:53:07 PM  
The patent is generally useless.  If everyone was on an unlimited plan, then demand would overwhelm supply for the short term.  However in the long term, internet "supply" is going to far exceed demand. Right now, quantity, reliability and speed are all pricing factors.  Very rapidly it will devolve to just reliability and speed, and then just speed.  And this is all going to happen in less than 10 years time.

So AT&T can patent all they want, but there are already plenty of public domain solutions for equitable "code division multiple access".
 
2014-02-03 10:58:59 PM  

BolloxReader: arkansized: Teresaol31: I swear to god they already are doing this and have been violating "Net Neutrality" in my area for at least two years.  I can sit around gaming, commenting on fark, facebooking, and doing research all day, and my DSL is running correctly.  Mind you this is DSL on AT&T in the middle of podunk Arkansas, where my only other internet options are:  56k dial up (yeah really) or highly unreliable satellite service that goes out every time it gets cloudy outside. Anyway, the second I start streaming, be it YouTube, Netflix, or Amazon Prime, and suddenly, my DSL is a shaky, slow POS.  It will literally slow down to the point that Netflix thinks it has dropped the server altogether.  So, I call and talk to "customer service" and get some moron in India that does not even know where podunk, Arkansas IS and he tries to make like this is a hardware problem on my end...until I tell him it happens on my PC, on my PS 3, on my Wii, and on my Tivo with equal reliability.  At which point, my phone call is conveniently "dropped" because, duh, Indian dude needs that job at the call center!

I feel for ya, sis. Partially solved my problem by using my smartphone as a modem. If you have a solid phone signal you oughta be able to purchase PDAnet and use that phone signal as your internet connection. It is invisible to your phone service, you won't have to pay the $ per month Big Red wants to charge for THEIR plan.
Speeds are good- I can watch a movie with few if any hiccups.

/podunk Florida
//used to live in podunk Arkansas

PDAnet traffic is not invisible. I can use it to tether but it hits my data cap.


Yes, you are correct about the data cap limit. I should have clarified that statement by saying that PDAnet "bypasses" the monthly tethering fee some providers charge.
 
2014-02-04 06:07:32 AM  
Kahabut: It's funny how justifying yourself can make a pretty big difference.  I admit, I misread your Boobies.  Now you sound like you know what you are talking about.

Also if you are as old as you just claimed you aren't supposed to be offended by "kiddo".  It works on the youngin's, most adults just laugh.  It's a tell.

BTW, I'm curious what your business is now?  I run a hosting provider and web design company with a heap of desktop support on top. I do it in a tiny little coastal town, rather than a metro area.

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Just turned 58 and earned every wrinkle and scar.

I have a smattering of consumer hosting accounts left over from a decade ago, but the bottom-feeding "unlimited everything" morons tainted that industry beyond redemption a long time ago. These days I mostly do commercial hosting and media distribution systems for video retailers. Like most digital endeavors these days, the "office" is wherever my laptop and I happen to be at the moment, but the IRS frowns on trying to write off an entire coast, so I settle for a place in Seattle and another in Vegas.
 
2014-02-04 06:15:04 AM  

Fissile: soundguy: There's always the option to simply move to someplace that doesn't suck balls. I run an online business, so internet access is a primary concern for me. When I bought my current house, I limited my search to only those suburban Seattle areas that were served by FIOS. With each succeeding generation, fast, reliable internet access becomes more and more of a requirement for a "normal" life. Eventually, areas with limited options for shiatty, overpriced service will suffer lower property values as "connected" people refuse to move there. That's going to hit taxing authorities right in the wallet and ultimately, we might see some intelligent last-mile regulation being put on the table.

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^ Typical "free-market", Ayn Rand derp-fest.  ^

Anyway you look at it, the net is a utility.  Utilities are natural monopolies.  Using the "free market" to pound a square peg utility into the round consumer bunger, will lead to predictably unpleasant results for the consumer.   Net neurtrality is going to put the hurt on poor and middle class people, while your "betters" won't notice any change at all.

As for your property value example, riddle me this, Rand Boob:   Why is that houses in New Jersey towns were property taxes can exceed $20K per year for single family detached homes have some of the hottest real estate markets while houses in towns with reasonable taxes go begging?    Hint: Net access is available in both places.


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Is it painful to be as stupid as you? Seems like it would be painful.
 
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