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(Daily Mail)   Laura Bush: I certainly hope a future 'First Gentleman' has his weight and hair critiqued just like First Ladies have   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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NFA
2014-02-02 02:10:39 PM  
Laura, shut your bloated Stepford wife face with it's dead demon eyes and disappear into obscurity with the rest of the Bush clan.
 
2014-02-02 02:18:02 PM  
fta School administrators across the country are grappling with the issue.

I'll bet that's not true. I'll bet that most administrators know that this is the right thing to do. But they're worried about how to handle backlash from ignorant and fearful parents and district officials, which isn't the same thing.
 
2014-02-02 02:20:40 PM  

Notabunny: fta School administrators across the country are grappling with the issue.

I'll bet that's not true. I'll bet that most administrators know that this is the right thing to do. But they're worried about how to handle backlash from ignorant and fearful parents and district officials, which isn't the same thing.


Dammitsomuch. I wonder what the chances are of that misplaced post working seamlessly into the thread.
 
2014-02-02 02:31:42 PM  

Notabunny: Notabunny: fta School administrators across the country are grappling with the issue.

I'll bet that's not true. I'll bet that most administrators know that this is the right thing to do. But they're worried about how to handle backlash from ignorant and fearful parents and district officials, which isn't the same thing.

Dammitsomuch. I wonder what the chances are of that misplaced post working seamlessly into the thread.


I haven't read the article yet so I can work it in to my preconceived version of the story.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-02-02 02:34:47 PM  
Maybe Chris Christie will marry a guy who becomes president one day.
 
2014-02-02 02:35:16 PM  
www.minnpost.com
certainly plans to
 
2014-02-02 02:39:31 PM  
Somehow I'm reminded of this:

img.fark.net
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2014-02-02 02:50:34 PM  
I hope a future First Gentleman hasn't killed someone with their reckless driving.
 
2014-02-02 03:06:01 PM  
I hope she's referring to the treatment Michelle is getting, because I don't recall Laura getting much scrutiny other than the reckless driving.
 
2014-02-02 03:26:17 PM  

enry: I hope she's referring to the treatment Michelle is getting, because I don't recall Laura getting much scrutiny other than the reckless driving.


When First Ladies are discussed at all it is generally in reference to their appearance. If they are at all stylish they often set fashion trends. Even Hilary started a revival of the pant suit.
 
2014-02-02 03:32:30 PM  
She's got a fair point. I think the current and many former First Ladies got more attention about their appearances than was warranted.
 
2014-02-02 03:41:24 PM  

quickdraw: enry: I hope she's referring to the treatment Michelle is getting, because I don't recall Laura getting much scrutiny other than the reckless driving.

When First Ladies are discussed at all it is generally in reference to their appearance. If they are at all stylish they often set fashion trends. Even Hilary started a revival of the pant suit.


No, I get that. But Laura wasn't criticized for her appearance that I remember. At least by any news outlets that mattered (i.e. maybe People Magazine took a swipe at her, I dunno). And it certainly want to the extent that Michelle is getting criticized. Libbruls were too busy being pissed at her husband doing something stupid like crashing the economy or nominating unqualified people for government office to care what she was up to.
 
2014-02-02 04:29:10 PM  

enry: I hope she's referring to the treatment Michelle is getting, because I don't recall Laura getting much scrutiny other than the reckless driving.


But even the compliments that Laura Bush gets are about her appearance. If you can get the "Mooooooochelle" crowd to compare her to Laura Bush, it's always about how awesome and classy Laura Bush's clothes and hair and sleeves and triceps are.
 
2014-02-02 04:40:27 PM  

jbc: I hope a future First Gentleman hasn't killed someone with their reckless driving.


So, no President Sarah Jessica Parker then.
 
2014-02-02 05:39:29 PM  

Notabunny: Notabunny: fta School administrators across the country are grappling with the issue.

I'll bet that's not true. I'll bet that most administrators know that this is the right thing to do. But they're worried about how to handle backlash from ignorant and fearful parents and district officials, which isn't the same thing.

Dammitsomuch. I wonder what the chances are of that misplaced post working seamlessly into the thread.


Hey, on the bright side I finally get to thank you for the TF sponsorship. Thanks!
 
2014-02-02 05:50:55 PM  
The President also gets critiqued as to his (or, eventually, her) fashion and appearance.  There's not a single president who doesn't get the "look how old he looks compared to when he got into office", and let's not forget how Kennedy singlehandedly destroyed the men's hat fashion.
 
2014-02-02 05:57:12 PM  

fusillade762: Notabunny: Notabunny: fta School administrators across the country are grappling with the issue.

I'll bet that's not true. I'll bet that most administrators know that this is the right thing to do. But they're worried about how to handle backlash from ignorant and fearful parents and district officials, which isn't the same thing.

Dammitsomuch. I wonder what the chances are of that misplaced post working seamlessly into the thread.

Hey, on the bright side I finally get to thank you for the TF sponsorship. Thanks!


The burdens of stardom are heavy onerous. It's more of a punishment than a gift. So, you're welcome and I'm sorry.
 
2014-02-02 06:09:06 PM  
That's adorbs...not gonna happen, toots.

/I have never known a man who criticized a female politician (or spouse of a male politician) on her appearance (although I've encountered it on FARK)
 
2014-02-02 06:38:09 PM  
The solution to objectifying women is actually to objectify men more, because of course you can't stop objectifying women!

Republican logic.
 
2014-02-02 06:38:35 PM  
'It'll be interesting when it finally happens what the First Gentlemen will do. I hope they take on men's health perhaps,' she said, making an underhanded slight at the pattern of initiatives that are seen as 'appropriate' for First Ladies to handle falls mostly in the realm of women's and children's health.

I hadn't even thought of the amount of shiat the First Dude is going to get for having to focus on the traditionally feminine issues, nor did it really become clear to me until right now how sexist the entire First Lady initiatives were to begin with. I get that the First Lady can't be too politically active and rile things up, but it all feels very "Go play with your dolls in the corner and let the grown-ups talk" to me now.
 
2014-02-02 06:41:04 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: /I have never known a man who criticized a female politician (or spouse of a male politician) on her appearance (although I've encountered it on FARK)


I've never known a person who used a self-contradictory sentence (although I've encountered it on FARK)
 
2014-02-02 06:57:15 PM  
"And maybe we should be that way about the first gentleman also, and really critique the way they look all the time-their choice of tie or their hairstyle or whatever. Or maybe their weight,"

So that's her instinct, instead of "maybe we shouldn't critique anybody about the way they look all the time, or maybe their weight?"
 
2014-02-02 06:58:35 PM  
I'm sure Bill doesn't give a shait.
 
2014-02-02 07:05:30 PM  

sendtodave: The solution to objectifying women is actually to objectify men more, because of course you can't stop objectifying women!

Republican logic.


This presents a solution to the problem of rape that I'm pretty sure the Republican leadership hasn't thought all the way through. Which is disturbing.

Unless they have, which is  more disturbing.
 
2014-02-02 07:08:03 PM  

enry: I hope she's referring to the treatment Michelle is getting, because I don't recall Laura getting much scrutiny other than the reckless driving.


This..not to mention her mother in law, who could do no wrong at all, even though she looked like she was about 80 years old when she lived in the White House (when my grandmother called her the "old lady" that was saying something.)  On the other hand, I think that beginning with Hillary and the headbands, Democratic first ladies (and their poor daughters, do you remember how awful Rush was to Chelsea?) could literally come out of the Rose Garden lawn and hand out actual free rainbow encrusted unicorns while looking like Giselle and the media would have a problem with her hair, make up, hem line, bust line...something.
 
2014-02-02 07:10:05 PM  
Clearly not concerned with driving skills
 
2014-02-02 07:10:47 PM  
www.pageonekentucky.com
 
2014-02-02 07:22:17 PM  

jbc: I hope a future First Gentleman hasn't killed someone with their reckless driving.


Nice...
 
2014-02-02 07:24:24 PM  
Did she and Will Ferrell break up?
 
2014-02-02 07:25:32 PM  

NFA: Laura, shut your bloated Stepford wife face with it's dead demon eyes and disappear into obscurity with the rest of the Bush clan.


Wow, that was unnecessarily harsh.
 
2014-02-02 07:30:50 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Lionel Mandrake: /I have never known a man who criticized a female politician (or spouse of a male politician) on her appearance (although I've encountered it on FARK)

I've never known a person who used a self-contradictory sentence (although I've encountered it on FARK)


I have no idea what you're talking about...I don't "know" the people I've encountered on FARK
 
2014-02-02 07:31:53 PM  
If she had her way, neither her son Jeb Bush nor Hillary Clinton would run for the White House in 2016- even though they are among the most likely candidates for their respective parties.

Did Babs just make the "no more dynasties" false equivalence argument? Hmmm, did not see that one coming.
 
2014-02-02 07:43:51 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The President also gets critiqued as to his (or, eventually, her) fashion and appearance.  There's not a single president who doesn't get the "look how old he looks compared to when he got into office", and let's not forget how Kennedy singlehandedly destroyed the men's hat fashion.


Remember all the jokes about how tubby Clinton was?
 
2014-02-02 07:44:31 PM  

Teresaol31: On the other hand, I think that beginning with Hillary and the headbands, Democratic first ladies (and their poor daughters, do you remember how awful Rush was to Chelsea?) could literally come out of the Rose Garden lawn

carrying the severed head of Osama bin Laden in one hand and next year's perfectly balanced national budget in the other and the media would have a problem with her hair, make up, hem line, bust line...something.

Alternative scenario in "fix" above to highlight the problem.

Bust on Laura Bush all you want (I know I will), but left at the departure station of the crazy train that is her argument is a very valid point which people are overlooking, ironically because of the self-same problem: People not only don't expect substantive policy or advice from the first lady, but there's an attitude inherent in the "news cycle" that tries to  perpetuate the sexism and downplay the First Lady, to treat her as an ornament, a hollow glass thing into which a pet issue can be inserted and showcased, rather than treat her as a person who might have genuine worthy ideas of her own.

(I also firmly believe that the paragraph above is  one single non-run-on sentence. Ruling from the Grammar Nazis, please?)
 
2014-02-02 07:47:31 PM  

theknuckler_33: NFA: Laura, shut your bloated Stepford wife face with it's dead demon eyes and disappear into obscurity with the rest of the Bush clan.

Wow, that was unnecessarily harsh.


No hate like liberal hate.
 
2014-02-02 07:53:28 PM  
"...No breasts, two left-wings, and fat thighs..." (description of KFC's Hillary Clinton special dinner package)
 
2014-02-02 07:53:29 PM  
First Gentleman? I was hoping that the title 'First Lord' would be used. Much more badass, even if not in line with US traditions.
 
2014-02-02 07:56:21 PM  

sendtodave: The solution to objectifying women is actually to objectify men more, because of course you can't stop objectifying women!

Republican logic.


No, it's what happens when you're objectified your whole life. You really only need one bad day to start grousing that if boys can't control themselves the solution is to openly carry machetes and that you hope men get the same treatment just so they  stop f*cking dog-whistling at you already.

/Annoy people for their entire lives, they get grumpy
//Anyone surprised?
 
2014-02-02 07:59:51 PM  
Bill Clinton says: "Challenge accepted! "
 
2014-02-02 08:00:36 PM  

NFA: Laura, shut your bloated Stepford wife face with it's dead demon eyes and disappear into obscurity with the rest of the Bush clan.


Like I said before, you can say lots of bad things about George Bush, and god knows I've said them all, but Laura Bush was pretty classy. She used her position to push for a few good programs, like historic preservation, literacy, and getting more funding to libraries. Other than her choice of partners, she's a perfectly decent human being.
 
2014-02-02 08:04:53 PM  
Normally I wouldn't say this about a Bush, but "I couldn't agree more".
 
2014-02-02 08:06:43 PM  
Laura Bush killed a guy.
 
2014-02-02 08:13:24 PM  
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2014-02-02 08:22:51 PM  

Nabb1: She's got a fair point. I think the current and many former First Ladies got more attention about their appearances than was warranted.


Hillary was (and is) constantly attacked over her looks.  The worst, though, was when the Clintons got their cat, Socks, and Rush Limbaugh said "Did you know they had a family dog?" and "accidentally" showed a picture of 16 year old Chelsea.

Laura Bush has actually been more sympathetic than anyone in Bush's whole administration.  Shortly after Obama was elected, Michelle said "I've never been proud of my country until today" when she obviously MEANT to say "I've never been MORE proud of my country than today".  And Laura Bush basically said that Michelle really needs to watch what she says because she'll get attacked over the smallest damn thing.

Was she wrong?
 
2014-02-02 08:24:45 PM  
She's got a fair point. Her husband is still a war criminal and a moron, but she has a point.
 
2014-02-02 08:30:45 PM  
Yeah, Mrs. Bush.  It's unfortunate that first ladies have had to deal with such things.  So of course, in your world the only rational solution is to make sure that more people have to deal with being objectified.  Never mind working for a society where people are judged by their character and intellect.  Let's just keep making things miserable for those that followed, because you had to deal with it so now everyone else should.

History is filled with people that are remembered fondly, who we celebrate, who had nothing in common with the likes of you.  History is also filled with people we uphold as examples of what sets humanity back, people who have filled our timeline with travesty, and those people have much in common with the likes of you.

B*tch, if history was only filled with women like you then you wouldn't even be allowed to vote.  Cuz hey, we didn't get to vote, so we hope all the women that follow us don't get to either.

Diseases?  Sh*t, I had scarlet fever AND diphtheria as a child, and I lost 4 siblings to it, so I want the following generations to suffer as well.... said nobody that has ever made progress in making humanity healthier.

/Just go away, you nasty thing
 
2014-02-02 08:55:10 PM  
The most likely first First Gentleman will be over 70 and also a former president.
 
2014-02-02 09:04:15 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Yeah, Mrs. Bush.  It's unfortunate that first ladies have had to deal with such things.  So of course, in your world the only rational solution is to make sure that more people have to deal with being objectified.  Never mind working for a society where people are judged by their character and intellect.  Let's just keep making things miserable for those that followed, because you had to deal with it so now everyone else should.

History is filled with people that are remembered fondly, who we celebrate, who had nothing in common with the likes of you.  History is also filled with people we uphold as examples of what sets humanity back, people who have filled our timeline with travesty, and those people have much in common with the likes of you.

B*tch, if history was only filled with women like you then you wouldn't even be allowed to vote.  Cuz hey, we didn't get to vote, so we hope all the women that follow us don't get to either.

Diseases?  Sh*t, I had scarlet fever AND diphtheria as a child, and I lost 4 siblings to it, so I want the following generations to suffer as well.... said nobody that has ever made progress in making humanity healthier.

/Just go away, you nasty thing


I don think she's actually arguing that we should be objectifying a theoretical First Gentleman, more asking if he will be treated the way First Ladies have been. Sure, the way she worded it it sounds like she's advocating a "turnabout is fair play" stance, but she does have a valid point about the way First Ladies are viewed, and I have to be honest, I just don't see a dude getting that kind of scrutiny.
 
2014-02-02 09:20:15 PM  
She's not literally saying we should objectify the guy. She's making a (decent) point. Jeez.
 
2014-02-02 09:22:36 PM  

NFA: Laura, shut your bloated Stepford wife face with it's dead demon eyes and disappear into obscurity with the rest of the Bush clan.


You're not helping.
 
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