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(ABC)   Apparently deciding they just haven't pissed enough people off yet, Sochi municipal officials hire a contractor to kill as many stray dogs as possible before the Olympcs   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 80
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2014-02-02 05:38:18 PM  
A better idea would be to round them up and let them loose in subby's town.  He or she can then have all the cuddly wuddly little buddies he or she can stand...and the kids love 'em, too!
 
2014-02-02 05:47:48 PM  
He just wants to take care of the packs of wild dogs that are in control of most major cities.
 
2014-02-02 05:49:55 PM  
Count me in with the "not outraged" crowd.

I love animals, but Sochi (and other Russian cities) have a large number of diseased dogs, including cases of rabies. They really need to get that under control regardless of whether the Olympics are coming. If the games give them a reason to move more quickly on the problem, so be it.

In less-developed nations, rabies is a death sentence. Even in first-world countries, if you don't get immediate treatment it is a death sentence. In fact, it is an horrific way to die. Once you are exposed, you must be treated  before you start to show symptoms.

* A few weeks after exposure (or even a few days if you were bitten in the head or neck), you start feeling like you've got the flu. Now, it's too late.
* A week or two after that, you get agitated and aggressive. You start to have paranoid delusions and hallucinations. You begin to drool excessively.
* Shortly thereafter, the simple act of swallowing will close your throat.  You start to get violent muscle spasms just from hearing water or feeling a breeze. Even someone asking you if you want a drink can trigger the reaction.
* Soon, the slightest sound or touch will cause screams, moans, and muscle spasms so violent  they lift your body and arch your back several feet above the bed. You will be completely unable to control your movements.
* Eventually, breathing becomes difficult because your throat is always constricted, andyou lapse into a coma. You die soon after, usually from asphyxia or heart failure.

If killing stray dogs is what it takes to help prevent that, I'm all for it.

As an unrelated side note, It's interesting how much influence rabies has had on zombie literature & film. The fictional progression of the disease is often sped up greatly... I think the longest infection in TWD  (Jim) was over in less than a week. Other than that, it's very similar. Even the "cut off a limb to stop the infection" works on bites from rabid animals, with the same basic rules (only on extremities/must be done immediately).
 
2014-02-02 06:23:26 PM  

Skunkwolf: haolegirl: WTF Indeed: Won't someone think of the feelings of the stray dogs who pass diseases!

What diseases do they pass?

You really believe these curs are just little angels don't you? You need to travel more.


Or, I was asking a serious question.
 
2014-02-02 06:26:36 PM  
when Detroit hosted the Super Bowl, the bums were all rounded up and sent away.  nobody knows what
happened to them.
 
2014-02-02 06:46:55 PM  

Zel: Billy Bathsalt: That has to be the worst job in the world: dog culler.

Some few of them will enjoy it.

/but srsly
this is really sad, dogs are people too


No, they're not. I mean, that's pretty much the definition of "people": humans (men, women, children) as opposed to other animals".

Not that I dislike dogs -- I'm a "dog person" -- but dogs != people.
 
2014-02-02 06:58:10 PM  
The west has systematic dog and cat culling in almost every town and city.  We call it the SPCA and give good people a chance to adopt first but still it's not like we should be pointing any fingers over this particular aspect of the Sochi games.  There are lots of other valid reasons to choose from.
 
2014-02-02 07:16:25 PM  
It's the responsible thing to do.

Yeah, people are getting all upset by this....OMG they're pets!....but let's look at this realistically.  They are no longer pets.  They have been abandoned by asshole owners (who should be the real targets of the outrage) and are now basically wild animals roaming around in the city.

Would these animal rights activists be upset if a pack of these lovely wonderful fluffy family pets dragged a small child down to the ground and proceeded to eat it?
 
2014-02-02 07:26:45 PM  

Gosling: Vector R: In all seriousness, we need to set up permanent locations to rotate the Olympic games to, so we don't see these sorts of horrible atrocities. From homeless and poor people being thrown out in Rio and China to critters being needlessly slaughtered for no good reason, these are high costs being paid which could be easily avoided. Not to mention the tremendous costs involved with building completely new complexes in random places every year.

The problems with that are:

1) A lot of the complexes go unused after the Games a lot of the time, because the city just has no use for them. To make a permanent host means not only do they have to sink money into it, then they have to sink more money into maintaining it despite it not doing them any damn good.
2) Every time a sport gets added to the program or taken out of the program, that's money the city has to spend that they may not have. Does the city not have room for a golf course or a rugby venue? TOO BAD THEY'RE OLYMPIC SPORTS NOW. Raze a neighborhood or something. Make it work.
3) What happens if that part of the world has a war or something? You're kind of farked and you may not have an Olympics at all.
4) You think the fight over hosting the Olympics is ugly now... just imagine how ugly the fight over getting to host all of them is going to be. Anyone trying to keep corruption from seeping into the process is going to get squashed like a bug.



The OPs idea is one that I've had for a long time.   You build 2 winter olympics centres and 2 summer olympics centres in different countries outside of a large urban area so they are not disruptive to the actually cities themselves but are close enough that there are major transportation hubs, hotels, support services, etc. nearby.  You don't build more than one Olympic centre in a country and the reason you have 2 of each is so that in case something goes wrong there is a second centre that can be used for the upcoming Olympics.    ALL countries participating in the Olympics pay into a general pool that is used to maintain the facilities.  This fee allows athletes from participating countries to travel to a facility and train for their event.  With 4 permanent facilities and shared costs it won't be a disruptive burden to host the Olympics any more.
 
2014-02-02 07:28:51 PM  

MisterLoki: Patton was right.


THIS!
 
2014-02-02 07:29:16 PM  
fark those assholes. i dont have anything else to say.
 
2014-02-02 07:58:46 PM  
Feral dogs and cats attacking people and spreading rabies are a major problem the world over. Thing is, for every one you cull, another litter is going to be born. Trapp, spay/neuter and release works better in the long run. That's why there are so few strays in the cities around North America.
 
2014-02-02 08:32:30 PM  

LoneWolf343: Ah, the usual string of "Olympic city is gradually turned into a dystopia while the world looks on an applauds" stories. Word of advice: if your city is ever slotted to host the Olympics, move away. If you have to sell everything and hitchhike, do it.


Brother Wolf know of which he speaks.   Norton, KS was a virtual Eden before the summer games of '76.
 
2014-02-02 08:48:28 PM  
Vancouver did this on the East Side.
 
2014-02-02 09:14:27 PM  

MisterLoki: Patton was right.


What, black people and Jews are inferior?

Or, the Koran's a good read?
 
2014-02-02 10:28:36 PM  

That Guy Jeff: haolegirl: WTF Indeed: Won't someone think of the feelings of the stray dogs who pass diseases!

What diseases do they pass?

Rabies.

Billy Bathsalt: That has to be the worst job in the world: dog culler.


Really? I think that would be an awesome job. You're not only helping everyone out by removing vicious disease spreading, garbage dumping, pet killing vermin, but you get to hunt stuff in the middle of a city. Plus, I'm genetically advantaged for such work. I can tell just walking into a building if there are dogs or cats around cause the air feels "dirty" and I'll start sneezing. It's my freakin' super power.

Now, dog culler in Russia, specifically, is probably a shiatty job. I would prefer "cat culler" in Australia. Hell, there the pests are not only strays but invasive, so killing them makes you an environmentalist. Pretty much a dream job; if the Aussie government called me and said "Hey mate, we'll pay your relocation costs and 80k a year to come down here and kill cats 5 days a week, crikey" I would be on the plane tomorrow.


Well, that's what makes horse races; not gonna judge.  Packs of wild dogs need to be dealt with, as do Australian cats and, last I heard, rabbits.
 
2014-02-02 11:18:22 PM  

silverjets: The OPs idea is one that I've had for a long time. You build 2 winter olympics centres and 2 summer olympics centres in different countries outside of a large urban area so they are not disruptive to the actually cities themselves but are close enough that there are major transportation hubs, hotels, support services, etc. nearby. You don't build more than one Olympic centre in a country and the reason you have 2 of each is so that in case something goes wrong there is a second centre that can be used for the upcoming Olympics. ALL countries participating in the Olympics pay into a general pool that is used to maintain the facilities. This fee allows athletes from participating countries to travel to a facility and train for their event. With 4 permanent facilities and shared costs it won't be a disruptive burden to host the Olympics any more.


Again, though: good luck preventing all of the money from being spent in a balls-out attempt to get those four locations to be Dubai, Beijing, Sochi and Sofia. (Sofia bid in 1992 and 1994; they came in 2nd in 1992.)
 
2014-02-02 11:43:14 PM  

Jgok: Count me in with the "not outraged" crowd.

I love animals, but Sochi (and other Russian cities) have a large number of diseased dogs, including cases of rabies. They really need to get that under control regardless of whether the Olympics are coming. If the games give them a reason to move more quickly on the problem, so be it.

In less-developed nations, rabies is a death sentence. Even in first-world countries, if you don't get immediate treatment it is a death sentence. In fact, it is an horrific way to die. Once you are exposed, you must be treated  before you start to show symptoms.

* A few weeks after exposure (or even a few days if you were bitten in the head or neck), you start feeling like you've got the flu. Now, it's too late.
* A week or two after that, you get agitated and aggressive. You start to have paranoid delusions and hallucinations. You begin to drool excessively.
* Shortly thereafter, the simple act of swallowing will close your throat.  You start to get violent muscle spasms just from hearing water or feeling a breeze. Even someone asking you if you want a drink can trigger the reaction.
* Soon, the slightest sound or touch will cause screams, moans, and muscle spasms so violent  they lift your body and arch your back several feet above the bed. You will be completely unable to control your movements.
* Eventually, breathing becomes difficult because your throat is always constricted, andyou lapse into a coma. You die soon after, usually from asphyxia or heart failure.

If killing stray dogs is what it takes to help prevent that, I'm all for it.

As an unrelated side note, It's interesting how much influence rabies has had on zombie literature & film. The fictional progression of the disease is often sped up greatly... I think the longest infection in TWD  (Jim) was over in less than a week. Other than that, it's very similar. Even the "cut off a limb to stop the infection" works on bites from rabid animals, with the same basic rules (only o ...


You left out the silver lining...
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2014-02-03 12:45:44 AM  
All you people feeling sorry for the stray dogs should either go collect them yourself, take them home and take care of them yourselves or shut the fark up about it.

The fact that they spread disease to healthy pets aside, the life of a stray animal is probably the worst fate imaginable. Even homeless people can go to an emergency room if they have a serious illness, strays animals just have to suffer. They're better off being put down.
 
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2014-02-03 01:06:07 AM  

Nuclear Monk: Jgok: Count me in with the "not outraged" crowd.

I love animals, but Sochi (and other Russian cities) have a large number of diseased dogs, including cases of rabies. They really need to get that under control regardless of whether the Olympics are coming. If the games give them a reason to move more quickly on the problem, so be it.

In less-developed nations, rabies is a death sentence. Even in first-world countries, if you don't get immediate treatment it is a death sentence. In fact, it is an horrific way to die. Once you are exposed, you must be treated  before you start to show symptoms.

* A few weeks after exposure (or even a few days if you were bitten in the head or neck), you start feeling like you've got the flu. Now, it's too late.
* A week or two after that, you get agitated and aggressive. You start to have paranoid delusions and hallucinations. You begin to drool excessively.
* Shortly thereafter, the simple act of swallowing will close your throat.  You start to get violent muscle spasms just from hearing water or feeling a breeze. Even someone asking you if you want a drink can trigger the reaction.
* Soon, the slightest sound or touch will cause screams, moans, and muscle spasms so violent  they lift your body and arch your back several feet above the bed. You will be completely unable to control your movements.
* Eventually, breathing becomes difficult because your throat is always constricted, andyou lapse into a coma. You die soon after, usually from asphyxia or heart failure.

If killing stray dogs is what it takes to help prevent that, I'm all for it.

As an unrelated side note, It's interesting how much influence rabies has had on zombie literature & film. The fictional progression of the disease is often sped up greatly... I think the longest infection in TWD  (Jim) was over in less than a week. Other than that, it's very similar. Even the "cut off a limb to stop the infection" works on bites from rabid animals, with the same basic rules ( ...


I need to get me some rabies!
 
2014-02-03 01:40:15 AM  
I'm ok with this. Anyone have a logical argument against this (not emotion driven)?
 
2014-02-03 03:00:26 AM  

lohphat: What is it about sports that are allows to have the public pay for their facilities costs while they rack up great profits?


Because, the theory goes, that the public will benefit from the facilities long after the Olympics have gone.

In practice most of the facilities go unused and quickly deteriorate or are demolished.    It's another form of corporate welfare
 
2014-02-03 06:46:52 AM  

Archae hippy: LoneWolf343: Ah, the usual string of "Olympic city is gradually turned into a dystopia while the world looks on an applauds" stories. Word of advice: if your city is ever slotted to host the Olympics, move away. If you have to sell everything and hitchhike, do it.

Brother Wolf know of which he speaks.   Norton, KS was a virtual Eden before the summer games of '76.


You're funny. That's funny.
 
2014-02-03 08:46:57 AM  
Stray dogs are not cute, especially when they get into packs. They kill children and spread disease. More peope are killed by stray dogs every year than have been killed by wolves in Europe the last three hundred years. True fact : UN soldiers on peace missions in old Yugoslavia after the Bosnian War were quite often sent on missions to kill strays, as they were a serious danger for the peace in the area.

That they are killing the strays is not the sad thing. That is just A thing; a thing that needs doing.

The sad thing is the ridiculous culture of dog ownership in Russia that results in the masses of strays that are there.
 
2014-02-03 11:33:03 AM  
Oh sure, but if someone's unchained dog runs up to me and I put a hole in it, I'm the asshole.
 
2014-02-03 11:39:40 AM  

LoneWolf343: Ah, the usual string of "Olympic city is gradually turned into a dystopia while the world looks on an applauds" stories. Word of advice: if your city is ever slotted to host the Olympics, move away. If you have to sell everything and hitchhike, do it.


I have to agree with this.  I hope to God the nearest major city to me is NEVER selected for the Olympics.  I don't know why cities vie for this "honor" because it is  money pit and major inconvenience for every poor sap that happened to settle there.  I also like dogs and wouldn't like to see any more of them dispatched at any higher rate than they already are.  People are to blame for the stray animal problems in any country.
 
2014-02-03 01:56:50 PM  

studebaker hoch: There is only one stray dog in Russia that needs to be put down.


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2014-02-03 02:48:19 PM  

ReapTheChaos: All you people feeling sorry for the stray dogs should either go collect them yourself, take them home and take care of them yourselves or shut the fark up about it.

The fact that they spread disease to healthy pets aside, the life of a stray animal is probably the worst fate imaginable. Even homeless people can go to an emergency room if they have a serious illness, strays animals just have to suffer. They're better off being put down.


Agreed, except I don't believe for one second that it is being done humanely. If they were euthanizing them all, fine. But traps & poison?!?!  Horrible ways to die.
 
2014-02-03 05:33:14 PM  

rhondajeremy: Agreed, except I don't believe for one second that it is being done humanely. If they were euthanizing them all, fine. But traps & poison?!?! Horrible ways to die.


Better than starvation or being hit by a car.

I don't see you getting worked op about rats being killed with traps and poison.   They're animals too, right?  Or do you only care about the cute ones?
 
2014-02-04 03:47:40 AM  
BRB, I need to find me a rabid dog.
 
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