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(The New York Times)   Woody Allen's adoptive daughter gives new disturbing details on the sexual abuse he allegedly inflicted on her   (kristof.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 204
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2014-02-02 09:34:39 AM
Will this is a chipper morning article.
 
2014-02-02 09:48:40 AM
My favorite Woody Allen movie is Sleeper.
 
2014-02-02 10:01:56 AM

Wyalt Derp: My favorite Woody Allen movie is Sleeper.


Take the Money and Run
 
2014-02-02 10:05:08 AM

Egalitarian: read the Daily Beast article. The author threw in so much other smarmy stuff, it's obvious he's biased in favor of Woody.


Yeah, that was what I thought too, this being my favorite:

FTA: "The only parent-child tensions I've been privy to are that his girls think their father's mean for not letting them have a dog, and that he's an idiot for not knowing how to work a computer. Lest anyone accuse me of being in Woody's pocket, I'll confess that I side with his kids on both counts."

'Look at me, I'm an impartial judge of whether Woody Allen molested a kid because, get this, I think he's crap at using computers'
 
2014-02-02 10:21:00 AM

Wyalt Derp: My favorite Woody Allen movie is Sleeper.

Sleeper

is great, but my vote still goes to Annie Hall

/Suck it, Star Wars fans
 
2014-02-02 10:22:17 AM
Favorite Woody Allen movie is Midnight in Paris just for the Hemingway scenes.

If the allegations are true I expect some more people will come out with accusations like what happened with the Elmo guy, Sandusky and just about every other kiddie fiddler.
 
2014-02-02 10:36:12 AM

log_jammin: Frederick: As with almost all he-said/she-said scenarios, I tend to think the answer is somewhere in the middle.


there is no middle. he's a pedophile or he isn't.


I've heard of enough cases where men sexually assault children as a way to punish their wife/girlfriend. So they wouldn't have any sexual desire for the child except as an avenue of hurting the mother.

Drugs, drinking and a breakup were usually involved as well, but I don't put this past somebody like Allen. He thinks he did nothing wrong/sleazy/inappropriate/bad optics with Soon-Yi and the shiatstorm he got in the press I'm betting there could be "I'll show her..."
 
2014-02-02 10:41:15 AM

ryarger: The only thing I'd take issue with is your use of "child" in quotes. Soon-Yi is absolutely Farrow's child, no quotes about it.

An adoptive parent is a parent, period.

Allen, on the other hand, was not related to Soon-Yi in any way until they got married.


Pedantic quibble, she was also a legal adult at the time the relationship started, not a "child".
 
2014-02-02 10:47:48 AM
Sexual assault aside, Woody Allen is still a really creepy guy.
 
2014-02-02 10:48:43 AM

Komplex: log_jammin: Frederick: As with almost all he-said/she-said scenarios, I tend to think the answer is somewhere in the middle.


there is no middle. he's a pedophile or he isn't.

I've heard of enough cases where men sexually assault children as a way to punish their wife/girlfriend. So they wouldn't have any sexual desire for the child except as an avenue of hurting the mother.

Drugs, drinking and a breakup were usually involved as well, but I don't put this past somebody like Allen. He thinks he did nothing wrong/sleazy/inappropriate/bad optics with Soon-Yi and the shiatstorm he got in the press I'm betting there could be "I'll show her..."


Wat?

Again...sigh
The allegations came out after, AFTER,  AFTER, the breakup started(at which time there was no bad press until the allegations came out), the breakup was started by Mia because of Woody's relationship with Soon-Yi.

You have some serious issues with understanding chronological order, in my opinion.

So, according to you, he molested the girl, to get revenge for bad press of having molested the girl....?

Do you not see the flaw in your theory?
 
2014-02-02 10:52:33 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Frederick: doglover: optikeye: Mia Farrow did call the police...and it was dropped because of subjecting the child to further trauma. Money has it's privileges.

Parallels can be drawn, in my opinion, to the Roman Polanski case.

What about between Hollywood and Penn State cultures in their protectionism? I find it interesting when people talk about separating these directors' cinematic achievements from their scandals, does anybody say that about Sandusky and football?

/Obviously imperfect comparison, as Sandusky has several victims, a trial verdict, and overwhelming evidence.


Even better, Joe Paterno was ridden out f town on a rail every achievement he and the team ever made erased in shame, and the worst they had on Paterno was he may have or should have known what Sandusky was doing.

/You're right, all of Hollywood should burn for Woody Allen's crimes
//anyone who ever bought a ticket to any of his movies should burn too
 
2014-02-02 10:58:49 AM

optikeye: You don't go from this:

[rememberinghistory.files.wordpress.com image 399x336]

To This:
[storyflakes.files.wordpress.com image 316x400]

Without some thing going on.

The Citation of the first photo is here: http://rememberinghistory.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/on-this-day-in-199 7 -woody-allen-marries-his-adopted-step-daughter-soon-yi-previn/




Woody never adopted Soon Yi nor was she his step daughter as Woody and Mia were never married.

Mia was married to Andre Previn when Soon Yi was adopted.
 
2014-02-02 11:01:50 AM

demonfaerie: log_jammin: Frederick: As with almost all he-said/she-said scenarios, I tend to think the answer is somewhere in the middle.

there is no middle. he's a pedophile or he isn't.

Well there is always a chance that the girl was molested, but it wasn't Woody; she just chose him as an easy way to tell she was molested without being attacked by the real person who molested her. There is a chance she was so afraid of the person who did molest her, that she picked the closet and safest male figure in her life to say who did it. However, there is a chance Woody did molest her, but no one really knows except the people involved in this situation. We will probably never know what actually happened, so we really shouldn't speculate.


The fact the abuse did not surface until the middle of a child custody hearing would lend one to be a bit suspicious as it is a rather common technique used to deny custody and visitation rights.
 
2014-02-02 11:10:15 AM

jaylectricity: I was molested at the age of three. I spent the next couple decades thinking about that every single day. But at first it wasn't until somebody told me it was wrong that it damaged me.

What if making a big deal out of it was the reason it has such lasting effects on the victim?

Let me make a distinction. Penetrating a young orifice and hurting a child is definitely wrong. But what if we're just talking about playful spraying on a 13 year-old girl's groin area with the sprinkler from the yard? The only reason that's damaging is because we convince ourselves so. Because she has to live with the pain of being wanted by an uncle who has no way of fulfilling his fantasy.

Oh gee, how it must suck for a moderately pretty girl to be sought after by a man with experience.

I'll admit...I'm a little creeped out by typing that. But I can't help but wonder if that's what goes through some peoples' heads.


I know where you are coming from. Two months before my 15th birthday I realized something wasn't right. The girl next door was allowed to walk to a store over a mile away, even though she was two years younger. I wasn't allowed off the back porch and would be beaten if my step-mother caught me not playing. Now I was never molested, so I've found solace in knowing it could have been worse, but I know what you are saying. When you find out, your whole world unravels. You question everything. Thirty-five years later, I've wrestled with my children having a step-parent, and being a step-parent myself, as well as being a parent to my own children. At nine and ten my sister and I had responsibilities you wouldn't wish upon a 16 year old, with punishments you wouldn't wish upon terrorists. Even when we performed flawlessly, if it had been too long since we had been punished, a transgression was made up so we could get a refresher. (i.e. I was sent to school one day with a black eye because I was obviously sniffing her Avon products to get high)

Still, until that specific day on that back pporch, I thought we were typical children growing up normally.
 
2014-02-02 11:35:07 AM
For many years I was very sympathetic to Mia Farrow, since I believed (and still do) that Woody Allen had a weird obsession with Dylan and did molest her.  However, in the last year, when this issue has been resurrected in the news by, first, the Vanity Fair article, and then this most recent series of tweets and articles, I've lost sympathy for Mia.  The fact that she wasn't honest about her son Ronan's father actually being Frank Sinatra really bothers me.  Ronan's gearing up for his new MSNBC show and getting a lot of publicity, and I think part of this is a PR move to somewhat deflect attention from his father really being Sinatra.
I read a book by Sinatra's valet, George Jacobs, called "Mr S", and in this book there's quite a bit of information about how, during their short marriage, Mia desperately wanted to have Sinatra's child.  Here are some excerpts:

"She was so confident that even though Mickey Rudin was preparing the divorce papers, and had even had her served with them on the set of Rosemary, Mia thought she could get Frank back if she wanted to.  She also thought she could get him to give her a child, which is what she wanted more than anything else, and what Frank, who already had all the children he could barely handle, wanted least.  Mr. S always felt bad about his life as an absentee father, particularly after the nightmare of Frank Jr.'s 1963 kidnapping.  He surely didn't want a new baby to feel bad about.

"Mia didn't care what Frank thought.  Motherhood was, only after stardom, the most powerful imperative for her.  At times, she'd sit with me and go down her list of all the great and famous men she wanted to have children with after Frank.  She knew the relationship would end sometime, but she assumed it would be at her time, and only after she had created one of what would be her master race of offspring.  She was talking some major names on her wish list: Leonard Bernstein, who was gay, Picasso, who was almost dead, J.D. Salinger, who had disappeared, and Bob Dylan, who was badly disabled from his motorcycle accident and underground.  The girl thought big.  She was that focused, and maybe if the Candy Store fiasco hadn't occurred, Mia might have even gotten her way with Frank and stopped the divorce at the eleventh hour."
 
2014-02-02 11:40:16 AM

broktune: YAWN! Yes, you're smarter than me, you win. (BTW, why the personal attacks when I didn't insult you, only the good friend of a potential pedo? Must people prove their superior intelligence. We get it, you're a genius, probably a real doctor known around the globe...UGH! Never having the guts to say that in person of course. Keep it up.) I wouldn't say "He did it." I don't know the facts. I just don't go to bat for potential pedos. You do. This should be a proud moment for you. "I really told that Broktune guy off on Fark. Hey Lenny, this guy thinks that Woody Allen might have molested a little girl and didn't like a couple points in an article. Yeah, I called him an idiot. Oh yeah, I got him....look he's so upset, he wrote a paragraph about me. I win. Where's my shotgun, I need to brush my teeth."


Simply put, you insult the intelligence of everyone reading your remarks. Sorry if that ruffles your feathers. "I don't know the facts," but you're more than willing to  jump on someone with both feet by repeating things that were very clearly discounted at various points in the very text you're complaining about. I'm not sure how you can claim higher moral ground with that technique no matter what someone is accused of. Nor when someone pointing out any of this is responded to with a suggestion they brush their teeth with a shotgun.

"you really think a young actor or producer is going to be farking around with twitter on a woody allen set??? ha!"

Do you? Must be a big fan. I have no idea. But to keep playing the eccentric New Yorker card is old. He knows what Twitter is was my point.


Settle down, hoss. You're so whipped up that you're pulling other people's comments and attributing them to me? Very sloppy, angry guy.

So he didn't raise her? So, that pic of him with her on his lap at a game was just a one off moment? About how many times a week did they see each other? How many times did they have dinner together when she was a child? People are very quick to dismiss their relationship around here.

As has been noted repeatedly, that photo is of Allen with his adopted daughter Bechet on his lap and it was taken around 2008. One more time, here's a similar photo of the two, but with an actual attribution rather than "what some dude on the internet told me": NEW YORK - FEBRUARY 08: Woody Allen and daughter Bechet Dumaine Allen attend San Antonio Spurs vs NY Knicks game at Madison Square Garden in New York City on February 8, 2008. (Photo by James Devaney/WireImage) You don't help yourself when this is typical of all your arguments, which is why I suggested you do everyone, yourself included, a big favor and leave it very simply at "I don't like him."  No-one would think the worse of you, no-one would blame you, and no-one would think you less quick.

Phew.
 
2014-02-02 11:44:51 AM
Here are my thoughts for what they're worth.

1. Woody Allen has/had some boundary issues in his life. If you don't think marrying the stepdaughter of your girlfriend is farking weird, then you need to get your head checked. His "creep" label has been well earned regardless of the veracity of Dylan's claims.

2. Mia Farrow strikes me as the type of hysterical lunatic who wouldn't think twice about inflating the story of abuse Woody inflicted upon her children as a way to punish him for his 'crime' of marrying Soon-Yi. I suspect that there probably was something strange about the way he interacted with Dylan, but I wager that the magnitude of it has been severely amplified. I have no doubt that Mia was constantly in her kids' ears for the past 20 years reminding them of what a scumbag Woody is. No amount of inappropriate behavior is acceptable, but the order in which this sequence of events has played out should give any logical person a moment of pause before wanting to burn Woody at the stake.

3. Dylan is a victim either way. She's either suffered legitimate sexual abuse from her creepy stepfather or mental abuse from her loony mother. Maybe a combination of both. I truly feel awful for the girl because there will never be any resolution to this story for her.

4. None of this will affect Woody's career at all.
 
2014-02-02 11:45:55 AM

log_jammin: GungFu: I think you are missing the point.

I'm sorry. how is that picture supposed to disprove what Mia said?


I don't know. You're the one bringing up Soon-Yi when this is about Dylan Farrow...
 
2014-02-02 11:54:20 AM

contrapunctus: Here are my thoughts for what they're worth.

1. Woody Allen has/had some boundary issues in his life. If you don't think marrying the stepdaughter of your girlfriend is farking weird, then you need to get your head checked. His "creep" label has been well earned regardless of the veracity of Dylan's claims.


And yet, if Woody Allen weren't a bespectacled, wrinkled old Jew, no one would be saying anything.  This is one of those cases where Hollywood looks cut both ways.

2. Mia Farrow strikes me as the type of hysterical lunatic who wouldn't think twice about inflating the story of abuse Woody inflicted upon her children as a way to punish him for his 'crime' of marrying Soon-Yi. I suspect that there probably was something strange about the way he interacted with Dylan, but I wager that the magnitude of it has been severely amplified. I have no doubt that Mia was constantly in her kids' ears for the past 20 years reminding them of what a scumbag Woody is. No amount of inappropriate behavior is acceptable, but the order in which this sequence of events has played out should give any logical person a moment of pause before wanting to burn Woody at the stake.

And again, if Mia Farrow were so worried about child molestation, she would be condemning the Academy for continuing to shower Roman Polanski with praise even after he cheated the justice system. Instead, she still supports him.

3. Dylan is a victim either way. She's either suffered legitimate sexual abuse from her creepy stepfather or mental abuse from her loony mother. Maybe a combination of both. I truly feel awful for the girl because there will never be any resolution to this story for her.

And the sad part is, the misandrist "feminists" are using this to go after Woody just as much as the Woody supporters are using it to go after Mia. Thus, all Woody supporters are now MRAs who back rape culture.

4. None of this will affect Woody's career at all.

Well, unless they decide to Paterno him rather than Polanski him.
 
2014-02-02 12:02:16 PM
Special thanks to Darth Macho, who Boobiesed this:

If you want "Star Wars vs. Annie Hall" outrage look at how the public treats the creators.

Woody Allen: molests his daughter while grooming his adopted daughter to be his wife; makes a movie about a neurotic New Yorker. Result: acclaimed by fans as genius and hailed as a visionary artist.

George Lucas: adopts children, donates to charities and by all accounts is an ethical man; makes a movie with Jar Jar Binks. Result: reviled by fans as a monster and will have to be buried in concrete to avoid corpse desecration.

Think on that.
 
2014-02-02 12:11:51 PM

Frederick: But I can say this with all certainty.  I have never cared for Woody Allen's work.  He's like Mel Brooks only without the funny.


THIS.

/ for some reason, I just don't find neurotic NYC characters amusing....(just punchable)
 
2014-02-02 12:28:02 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Special thanks to Darth Macho, who Boobiesed originally posted this:

If you want "Star Wars vs. Annie Hall" outrage look at how the public treats the creators.

Woody Allen: molests his daughter while grooming his adopted daughter to be his wife; makes a movie about a neurotic New Yorker. Result: acclaimed by fans as genius and hailed as a visionary artist.

George Lucas: adopts children, donates to charities and by all accounts is an ethical man; makes a movie with Jar Jar Binks. Result: reviled by fans as a monster and will have to be buried in concrete to avoid corpse desecration.

Think on that.


I have no clue why it happened like that.
 
2014-02-02 12:39:29 PM

Bith Set Me Up: I have no clue why it happened like that.


Over six years and you've never witnessed or experienced the notorious Fark filters in action before this?
 
2014-02-02 12:57:15 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Special thanks to Darth Macho, who Boobiesed this:

If you want "Star Wars vs. Annie Hall" outrage look at how the public treats the creators.

Woody Allen: molests his daughter while grooming his adopted daughter to be his wife; makes a movie about a neurotic New Yorker. Result: acclaimed by fans as genius and hailed as a visionary artist.

George Lucas: adopts children, donates to charities and by all accounts is an ethical man; makes a movie with Jar Jar Binks. Result: reviled by fans as a monster and will have to be buried in concrete to avoid corpse desecration.

Think on that.


Correlation /= causation. Also, if you want us to talk about what a good guy George Lucas is, the "Submit a Link" button is right there at the top of this page.
 
2014-02-02 01:05:52 PM
On St. Valentine's Day, the embattled ex-lovers exchanged gifts. In the kitchen of Mia Farrow's Central Park West apartment Woody Allen gave her an embroidered heart and a red satin box of chocolates. She looked at him, friends of Mr. Allen say, with a gentle, almost kindly glance and handed him a slim box, neatly wrapped.
"I got you this," she said.
A month and a day after Ms. Farrow discovered Mr. Allen had been sleeping with her adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Previn, it seemed as if nothing were wrong, his friends say. Mr. Allen's driver waited downstairs to take him back to his Fifth Avenue duplex and Mr. Allen opened the box on the drive through the park.


Inside lay an ornate Victorian Valentine meticulously adorned with a photograph of Ms. Farrow and her children in the center. The picture included the three children she and Mr. Allen share, as well as Soon-Yi. Ms. Farrow had stuck steel turkey skewers through the hearts of the children and she had carefully slid a steak knife into her own heart, according to Mr. Allen's friends.


Mia Farrow is a farking looney toon. I remember seeing a picture published of it, but since it was before the net it's gone.


//Love and Death is his best
 
2014-02-02 01:09:22 PM
I don't know if the Allen v Lucas thing is trolling or not but it's pretty damn funny.

The pix posted here are just evidence of hysteria on the part of the posters.

Hooking up with Soon-Yi was not a great career move.
 
2014-02-02 01:25:02 PM
Blue Jasmine
 
2014-02-02 01:27:41 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Woody Allen: molests his daughter


So few words, but still so extremely full of horse shiat.
 
2014-02-02 01:52:12 PM

GungFu: BeatrixK: Elmo Jones: I'll just leave this, if anyone is interested.

THIS!

I'll just leave this, if anyone is interested. Woody's adopted kids. Y'know, for future reference when the TMZ shiat hits the fan for Woody again.

[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 396x594]


Wow teenagers being embarrassed by dad in public, shocking!
 
2014-02-02 02:01:33 PM
Philip Semore Hoffman died!!!
 
2014-02-02 02:09:03 PM

LonMead: Take the Money and Run

 
2014-02-02 02:12:46 PM

omeganuepsilon: Komplex: log_jammin: Frederick: As with almost all he-said/she-said scenarios, I tend to think the answer is somewhere in the middle.

there is no middle. he's a pedophile or he isn't.


I've heard of enough cases where men sexually assault children as a way to punish their wife/girlfriend. So they wouldn't have any sexual desire for the child except as an avenue of hurting the mother.


Drugs, drinking and a breakup were usually involved as well, but I don't put this past somebody like Allen. He thinks he did nothing wrong/sleazy/inappropriate/bad optics with Soon-Yi and the shiatstorm he got in the press I'm betting there could be "I'll show her..."


Wat?


Again...sigh
The allegations came out after, AFTER,  AFTER, the breakup started(at which time there was no bad press until the allegations came out), the breakup was started by Mia because of Woody's relationship with Soon-Yi.


You have some serious issues with understanding chronological order, in my opinion.


So, according to you, he molested the girl, to get revenge for bad press of having molested the girl....?


Do you not see the flaw in your theory?


Or he molested the girl to get revenge for all the bad press he had for sleeping with his longtime girlfriend's barely legal daughter. During those years, Woody was booed at the Garden, NYC was on Mia's side. Or to get revenge when Mia started implying Woody isn't the father of one of his kids. Or when Mia said she had an affair with Frank Sinatra, or whoever else she farked when she was supposed to be exclusive with Woody.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/02/23/reviews/farrow-verdict.html

Here's why you might not want to trust those therapist who cleared Allen...

Justice Wilk, however, questioned the manner in which the Yale-New Haven team carried out its investigation of the allegations, as well as conclusions by two psychotherapists who treated Dylan that she had not been abused. "I am less certain, however, than is the Yale-New Haven team, that the evidence proves conclusively that there was no sexual abuse," Justice Wilk wrote.
The justice said he believed the conclusions of the psychotherapists had been "colored by their loyalty to Mr. Allen." He added that the unwillingness of members of the Yale-New Haven team to testify at the trial, except through a deposition by the team leader, and the destruction of the team's notes had "compromised my ability to scrutinize their findings and resulted in a report which was sanitized and, therefore, less credible."
 
2014-02-02 02:14:03 PM

Komplex: Or he molested the girl to get revenge for all the bad press he had for sleeping with his longtime girlfriend's barely legal daughter.


Timeline is off. The alleged molestation happened before any of that bad press.
 
2014-02-02 02:16:15 PM
Why is Nicholas Kristof inserting himself into this story, other than that's exactly what you'd expect Nicholas Kristof to do? Why is this appearing under his byline, instead of as its own thing? Is it because he'd already used half of this letter as half of his last column? Is it because before Dylan Farrow can tell you her own story, it's necessary for Nicholas Kristof to spend several hundred words confirming that "it's time" to let her speak on her own, now that Nicholas Kristof has had his say?

For those who don't recall his past exploits, Nicholas Kristof is the only man in the world (indeed, really the only person in the world) with the standing to speak on matters of sexual abuse. This was confirmed in 2004, when he purchased two Cambodian sex slaves from their pimps and heroically returned them to their native villages because he just! Couldn't! Bear! The! Injustice! (Unfortunately, only one of them turned out to be a good prostitute worth saving; the other, as he regretfully informed his readers a year later, quickly backslid into shameful slutty evilness. It is a sad world that betrays the selfless and irrepressible humanitarianism of Nicholas Kristof by refusing to live up to his example, but that is, tragically, the world that Nicholas Kristof lives in.) Nicholas Kristof, as Nicholas Kristof will be happy to tell you (again), did not ask to be a hero; Nicholas Kristof just  is one.

So it seems like the classy thing to do, when this prominent and admittedly newsworthy victim of sexual abuse came to you with this letter, would be to just say, "Sure, I can get that to our editors for you. They'll definitely want to run this. Say hi to your mom for me." But then people might forget that Nicholas Kristof is the heroic defender of all sexually abused women (and, he's quick to "fully disclose," a close personal friend of celebrities like Mia Farrow) and that they need him and his boldly heroic anti-abuse stance if they want to try to get better.
 
2014-02-02 02:18:01 PM
Just because Mia Farrow was/is insane doesn't mean Dylan is lying/sharing planted memories.
 
2014-02-02 02:28:00 PM
Assuming that this actually happened, it's vile and disgusting that anyone would do such a thing to a seven-year-old girl.


You should wait until she's at least twelve.
 
2014-02-02 02:45:22 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: DrBenway: Oh, boy! It's this thread again!

Damn victim speaking up! She should just keep her damned whore mouth shut.


FTFY
 
2014-02-02 02:49:25 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Woody Allen: molests his daughter while grooming his adopted daughter to be his wife; makes a movie about a neurotic New Yorker. Result: acclaimed by fans as genius and hailed as a visionary artist.

George Lucas: adopts children, donates to charities and by all accounts is an ethical man; makes a movie with Jar Jar Binks. Result: reviled by fans as a monster and will have to be buried in concrete to avoid corpse desecration.


Let's add up the effect of Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. Millions of people saw them. Of those at least a million hated them. So, let's say 4 hours in the cinema, that's 4 million hours wasted. Assuming a human lifespan of 80 years, that's like killing 6 people.

So, even if Woody abused his daughter, George Lucas is a much greater criminal.
 
2014-02-02 02:50:09 PM
To answer Dylan's question, my favorite movie was Annie Hall.

i290.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-02 02:56:06 PM

Flint Ironstag: darkjezter: When Woody Allen's affair with Soon-Yi was made public, Frank Sinatra asked Mia Farrow if she'd like him to break Woody Allen's legs.

Too bad Sinatra didn't actually do it.

And yet Mia has now said she had an affair with Sinatra behind the backs of her partner and Sinatra's wife, and that Sinatra may be the father of one of her children. Irrespective of the fact that Soon Yi was her adopted daughter surely an affair is an affair? How can she take the high road with Woody and Soon Yi's actions when she and Sinatra did the same?


If you don't get the impropriety and potential for abuse in a sexual relationship between a very young girl and a much older man who has been dating her mother for years, there's no way of convincing you.  For most of the rest of us, a line was crossed.
 
2014-02-02 03:09:00 PM
My family was talking about the Hollywood scumbags Woody and Roman and how the Hollywood elite are too willing to pretend the most disgusting behavior didn't happen because it's some great artiste.  Fark that.
 
2014-02-02 03:09:38 PM
Whoppi will insist it wasn't "rape-rape".
 
2014-02-02 03:10:13 PM
i.imgflip.com
 
2014-02-02 03:17:43 PM

Por que tan serioso: Philip Semore Hoffman died!!!


holy fark
 
2014-02-02 03:18:55 PM

Carth: Komplex: Or he molested the girl to get revenge for all the bad press he had for sleeping with his longtime girlfriend's barely legal daughter.

Timeline is off. The alleged molestation happened before any of that bad press.


Right now I can't find any press accounts of when the scandal was made public, but according to this Mia found out about the affair in January 1992, the main claim of abuse happened in August 1992.
 
2014-02-02 03:23:22 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Just because Mia Farrow was/is insane doesn't mean Dylan is lying/sharing planted memories.


But it lends credence to the theory, and does not discount it at all, because it's a very common phenomenon.

Hell, it's easy enough to accidentally mislead young kids.  Human memory is incredibly unreliable.  You can get a "yes' answer to just about any querry about if you ask a certain way, even if the kid know's for certain it didn't happen, because kids is just smart enough to think that's what you want to hear, but not understand the broader scope of meaning of anything.

Ask a group of young children if the one armed man that visited their class last week(even though none did).  If you keep asking, eventually the kid will say yes, keep inquiring after that and the fictional man will develop details.  Every kid will swear an oath that the guy was there, what was discussed, what color his hair and eyes were, etc.

All because you ask a question, and react in a way that's deemed "positive" to the child's psyche.  It's basic psychology at it's finest, the little rugrats are just seeking their treats, coupled with a young and undeveloped mind that has an infirm grasp on reality and consequences, and false memories are actually very common, you probably have a lot of them yourself.  Only typically they are not as life shattering.

I saw a space-ship as a kid.  Not really, but the memory is there, the impression of sureness is still there when I recall the memory, even though I understand and have seen the optical illusion since.(in the same spot even).  I know exactly all the features that led my younger mind to think that, yet the memory is etched in that way.

It didn't even involve an adult, much less one asking questions hopefully.
 
2014-02-02 03:24:36 PM
That's funny, I just didn't realize Mia Farrow, an adult, wrote the piece about being molested.
 
2014-02-02 03:32:52 PM

Komplex: Carth: Komplex: Or he molested the girl to get revenge for all the bad press he had for sleeping with his longtime girlfriend's barely legal daughter.

Timeline is off. The alleged molestation happened before any of that bad press.

Right now I can't find any press accounts of when the scandal was made public, but according to this Mia found out about the affair in January 1992, the main claim of abuse happened in August 1992.


And?

You do understand there's something implied in that, that the break-up began in January, and Woody wouldn't have much, if any, visitation with the kids, much less completely unsupervised run of Mia's house.
 
2014-02-02 03:37:42 PM

omeganuepsilon: JohnAnnArbor: Just because Mia Farrow was/is insane doesn't mean Dylan is lying/sharing planted memories.

But it lends credence to the theory, and does not discount it at all, because it's a very common phenomenon.


Heck, it's a nice change to see someone make a point without feeling obliged to roll out a series of misrepresentations, myths, and/or outright falsehoods to try to bolster it. I can't disagree with that, as it doesn't really rule out anything one way or the other. It's just something else to keep in mind.
 
2014-02-02 03:58:20 PM

omeganuepsilon: Komplex: Carth: Komplex: Or he molested the girl to get revenge for all the bad press he had for sleeping with his longtime girlfriend's barely legal daughter.

Timeline is off. The alleged molestation happened before any of that bad press.

Right now I can't find any press accounts of when the scandal was made public, but according to this Mia found out about the affair in January 1992, the main claim of abuse happened in August 1992.

And?

You do understand there's something implied in that, that the break-up began in January, and Woody wouldn't have much, if any, visitation with the kids, much less completely unsupervised run of Mia's house.


Well other than undermining your claim that the abuse happened before Mia and the public found out about Woody & Soon-Yi. 
 

Woody Allen isn't going to sleep with you.
 
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