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(Topless Robot)   Since "Frozen" is one of the few Disney movies where a Princess isn't fawning over the first thing she sees with a dick, it's obvious that she's a lesbian. Really   (toplessrobot.com) divider line 172
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2014-02-01 10:33:14 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Having just watched the movie, the only thing keeping it from the top pantheon of classic Disney is the songs. They blew their song load really early with Do you Want to Build a Snowman, For the First Time in Forever, and Let it Go. The later songs are crap since they used up all their showstoppers in the first third of the movie. Really, we're going to stop singing with Fixer Upper? Throw Idina Menzel back in there to channel Elphaba some more.

Other than that, it's the best Disney movie in a long while.




This is true. The troll song was kind of terrible and just totally wrong, as was the snowman song. Menzels last song is Let It Go; that's not even halfway through the film! Misstep there.
 
2014-02-01 10:41:22 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: Who the fark goes to a Disney movie and leaves disappointed because of the lack of cock?


Far-right Republicans?
 
2014-02-01 10:44:54 PM
Wait, one of the reasons that the author thinks that the movie is gay is because the prince is voiced by a gay actor? That's why gay actors don't get cast in straight roles, and it's why actors stay in the closet.
 
2014-02-01 10:45:58 PM

DamnYankees: This is true. The troll song was kind of terrible and just totally wrong, as was the snowman song. Menzels last song is Let It Go; that's not even halfway through the film! Misstep there.


I did laugh when Demi Lovato came on at the end to sing Let It Go, but people probably felt the same way about Peabo Bryson back in the day.
 
2014-02-01 11:00:11 PM
I'm not sure I'd ever heard of the movie until reading this "article" but I'm wondering how long it will be until the Culture Crusaders will pick up the torch and start yelling about this...I was a bit surprised that there wasn't an alert on One Million Moms.  I figure it will take a couple of days.
 
2014-02-01 11:08:56 PM
I guess "One Million Moms" is getting after Disney about something else right now.
 
2014-02-01 11:14:07 PM

DamnYankees: This is true. The troll song was kind of terrible and just totally wrong, as was the snowman song. Menzels last song is Let It Go; that's not even halfway through the film! Misstep there.


The roll song pulled me out of it far more than Olaf's one.   Both would've been better, I think, if they were half the length.   The troll song especially felt like incredible filler.
 
2014-02-01 11:16:00 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: Doctor Funkenstein: Who the fark goes to a Disney movie and leaves disappointed because of the lack of cock?

Far-right Republicans?


It's been said before, for the anti-gay party, they sure do think about a whole mess of cocks all the time.
 
2014-02-01 11:16:12 PM

Brainsick: Ed Grubermann: vicioushobbit: I analyzed Tangled so much, I had enough shiat to make a Congress.

I couldn't finish Tangled. But, I hate musicals.

I agree; every time they start to get interesting some jerk starts singing


There are two ways to do songs in musicals: the Easy Way, and the Good Way.

• Easy Way: Plot comes to a screeching halt for the duration of the song. You could remove the songs and their visuals, and the story would remain intact.

• Good Way: Song actually advances the plot. Take the song out and the visuals that went with it, and the story now has a hole in it.

Disney movies used to use the Easy Way almost entirely. The first animated movie I ever saw to expertly use the Good Way wasn't Disney. It was The Prince of Egypt (think the song that Miriam sang while she put baby Moses into the bulrushes and watched him be rescued, and later when Pharaoh's two magicians prepare to duplicate Moses's staff2snake miracle).

The Princess and the Frog is the first Disney movie I've seen that does the Good Way and does it well. Frozen does as well, even better.
 
2014-02-01 11:28:00 PM
People who try to sexualize movies/TV shows made for the children demographic need to stay away from the internet.
 
2014-02-01 11:36:57 PM

COMALite J: The Princess and the Frog is the first Disney movie I've seen that does the Good Way and does it well. Frozen does as well, even better.


Have you not seen Beauty and the Beast? A song can do more than move the plot forward. It can define the motivations, histories, and desires of entire groups of characters, and ground a moment emotionally - in addition to moving the plot forward. Every song in Beauty and the Beast does this, and every song is memorable and great.

Beauty and the Beast pretty much defines the perfect animated musical.
 
2014-02-01 11:39:01 PM

Bungles: HotIgneous Intruder: One of the main problems with Disney characters -- male and female -- is that they have giant heads and eyes.


Once you reason all the women's eyes are twice as wide as their wrists, and all the men's eyes are half the size of their wrists, it's difficult to concentrate on anything else.

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Actually, for a CGI animated movie, you have to make the human characters cartoonish and out of normal proportions, otherwise you wind up taking the Polar Express straight to Uncanny Valley nightmare fuel. The character design is very purposeful in a way Rob Liefeld's is not.
 
2014-02-01 11:41:25 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: COMALite J: The Princess and the Frog is the first Disney movie I've seen that does the Good Way and does it well. Frozen does as well, even better.

Have you not seen Beauty and the Beast? A song can do more than move the plot forward. It can define the motivations, histories, and desires of entire groups of characters, and ground a moment emotionally - in addition to moving the plot forward. Every song in Beauty and the Beast does this, and every song is memorable and great.

Beauty and the Beast pretty much defines the perfect animated musical.


The Lion King is also does this really well, which is one reason why it worked perfectly on Broadway.
 
2014-02-01 11:42:48 PM
While I watched the movie, I found myself thinking "this is way too many musical numbers."

After I saw the movie, I found myself singing the musical numbers.
 
2014-02-01 11:43:26 PM

hardinparamedic: Considering Frozen was meant as a deconstruction of Disney Movie "princess" tropes (And oh boy, was it ever.), I think the writer needs to learn a little more about lesbians.


No no.

If a woman has no interest in men, it's ONLY because she is interested in women. Because women can ONLY be interested in sex; females have zero interest in anything else. Any movie where the female lead is not interested in men means that she is, ipso facto, interested in women; otherwise she might--GASP!--be uninterested in sex at all, and we all know that that's completely impossible.
 
2014-02-01 11:43:54 PM
Up until Princess & the Frog, Disney princesses were sequestered until coming of age and subject to arranged marriages or passively pursuing their love only to have a strong female antagonist run interference.  During the 2nd renaissance of Disney, the antagonistic elements changed but the over all plot was the same. (Yes, this is overly simplified.)


With Princess & the Frog, she is already of age, working in the modern era, chosen by a prince, put into dire straits, and actively strives to right the wrong against her rather than waiting for some man to do it.  Gender roles were switched.

Going by this description of Frozen, the allegory could be a combination of homosexuality, masturbation, asexuality, or just growing up.  I don't know because I haven't seen it.  Yet, given the leaps and bounds the company has come with animation, it's only 2 films (not counting Pixar films) removed from pure patriarchy to feminism to possibly acknowledging homosexuality.  This is actual progress.

Marcus Aurelius: Because Bambi was a whore.



Totally farkied you for this line.
 
2014-02-01 11:43:58 PM

COMALite J: The Princess and the Frog is the first Disney movie I've seen that does the Good Way and does it well. Frozen does as well, even better.


Don't care. I hate musicals. The moment the characters start singing I'm done. The only musical I liked was South Park, because it made me laugh. (I don't mind incidental singing, like someone singing along with a radio, or bands performing, etc... but musicals can eat bags of dicks.)
 
2014-02-01 11:44:45 PM

rynthetyn: Wait, one of the reasons that the author thinks that the movie is gay is because the prince is voiced by a gay actor? That's why gay actors don't get cast in straight roles, and it's why actors stay in the closet.


While I don't doubt that can be true, sometimes they just aren't believable playing it straight, so it is a poor casting choice.

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2014-02-01 11:50:04 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Have you not seen Beauty and the Beast? A song can do more than move the plot forward. It can define the motivations, histories, and desires of entire groups of characters, and ground a moment emotionally - in addition to moving the plot forward. Every song in Beauty and the Beast does this, and every song is memorable and great.


Judge Frolo's soliloquy song 'Hell Fire' is the ultimate example of your point.  While Beauty & the Beast does it well, Hunchback just did it better with this song alone


Gyrfalcon:If a woman has no interest in men, it's ONLY because she is interested in women. Because women can ONLY be interested in sex; females have zero interest in anything else. Any movie where the female lead is not interested in men means that she is, ipso facto, interested in women; otherwise she might--GASP!--be uninterested in sex at all, and we all know that that's completely impossible.


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2014-02-01 11:51:36 PM

harleyquinnical: Going by this description of Frozen, the allegory could be a combination of homosexuality, masturbation, asexuality, or just growing up. I don't know because I haven't seen it. Yet, given the leaps and bounds the company has come with animation, it's only 2 films (not counting Pixar films) removed from pure patriarchy to feminism to possibly acknowledging homosexuality. This is actual progress.


There are gay dudes with kids in Frozen. They hang out in a nude sauna.
 
2014-02-01 11:53:42 PM

orangehat: I guess "One Million Moms" is getting after Disney about something else right now.


There was the lesbian couple on one of their sitcoms recently, and they're resting up for the Superb Owl.
 
2014-02-01 11:59:51 PM

syrynxx: Yesss.... because when you think of lesbians, you don't think of short haircuts, flannel, comfortable shoes and Subarus


Yeah, that pretty much nails it.   Although hybrids and pickup trucks are pretty popular, too.
 
2014-02-02 12:02:32 AM
Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque:There are gay dudes with kids in Frozen. They hang out in a nude sauna.

There we go, back to making it about men.  That's hardly the issue at hand here.  We're not talking about gay recognition.  We're on about feminist lesbian recognition.


/I saw this point made
//I didn't ignore it
/// Didn't think it was germane
 
2014-02-02 12:08:59 AM

harleyquinnical: Judge Frolo's soliloquy song 'Hell Fire' is the ultimate example of your point. While Beauty & the Beast does it well, Hunchback just did it better with this song alone


That's an awesome song that hits all of the points. I was more taking issue with the guy saying that Princess and the Frog was the only Disney movie he's seen that does it right. Beauty and the Beast nailed it. Lion King and Aladdin are awesome. If somebody wants to throw out the entirety of The Little Mermaid because Les Poissons didn't really move the plot forward, then I don't really know what to say.

There are some objective classic Disney flicks where even if the songs don't move the plot forward in a way that someone would like, they're substantial enough to the story and good enough as songs that they enrich the entire movie.
 
2014-02-02 12:13:49 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: There are gay dudes with kids in Frozen. They hang out in a nude sauna.


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2014-02-02 12:22:46 AM
I saw Frozen when it first came out. I thought it was a fantastic message with a fantastic message for young girls. Because of all the "analysis" I've read from clueless "social justice warriors", who are so useless and impotent that they'll use anything they can to promote their agenda, I've grown to despise the movie, and cringe when anyone brings it up.

\thanks for nothing, you pathetic losers
 
2014-02-02 12:24:13 AM

silo123j: Nabb1: DamnYankees: Frozen was awesome. One of my top movies of 2013.

That is all.

I took my kids to see it twice. Good movie. Wish I hadn't downloaded the soundtrack onto their iPad, though.

Understood. I bought it from Amazon. Now I get... Mommy can we listen to FROZEN??? But at least I make them listen to the classical parts as well.

Let it go... let it go....


So much of THIS. I bought her the Elsa doll that glows and sings too, didn't realize it was motion activated.
/scared me twice when I was home alone
//daughter knows the whole soundtrack but I am half tempted to make 'let it go' disappear...
 
2014-02-02 12:33:16 AM

syrynxx: When she finally lets it go and embraces her true self, she gets a fabulous new glittery gown to match her new attitude, lets her hair flow free, and sparkles for all to see. Oh, and then she builds herself a palace that resembles She-Ra's Crystal Castle from the '80s cartoon series. In a movie filled with gay stuff...this might be the gayest part of all.

Yesss.... because when you think of lesbians, you don't think of short haircuts, flannel, comfortable shoes and Subarus.  You think of glittery gowns and long flowing hair. Is this a satire piece?


You're obviously completely unfamiliar with lesbians.

WHO do you think those butch lesbians with the short haircuts and flannel are attracted to? Other butchies? Nope. Much of the time they're attracted to the lipstick lesbians. The more girly girls. The ones who dress like a princess.

Have you never even seen Ellen and Portia?

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2014-02-02 12:36:36 AM
I'm now dumber for having read that.
 
2014-02-02 12:41:40 AM

bbfreak: HalEmmerich: Didn't this exact same shiat come up regarding Merida in Brave when that came out too?

Yes.

OMG, women don't know their place as damsels in distress/don't need a man to save the day. She MUST BE A LESBIAN!

I love that the Weeners talks about Orion being a winter constellation and than going further into gods than goes completely out in left field.
 
2014-02-02 12:43:00 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Have you not seen Beauty and the Beast? A song can do more than move the plot forward. It can define the motivations, histories, and desires of entire groups of characters, and ground a moment emotionally - in addition to moving the plot forward. Every song in Beauty and the Beast does this, and every song is memorable and great.

Beauty and the Beast pretty much defines the perfect animated musical.


Oh good grief.  I saw it when it was released and I recently saw it again.  Like most Disney musicals of the era - it simply doesn't hold up.
 
2014-02-02 12:49:32 AM

gingerjet: Oh good grief.  I saw it when it was released and I recently saw it again.  Like most Disney musicals of the era - it simply doesn't hold up.


Kind of like most Academy Award nominees for 'Best Picture'
 
2014-02-02 01:15:19 AM

Peter von Nostrand: darkjezter: Saw Frozen back in December with my nieces.

I found Elsa surprisingly hot for an animated character.

Both have nice racks


so did Sven
 
2014-02-02 01:27:16 AM

gingerjet: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Have you not seen Beauty and the Beast? A song can do more than move the plot forward. It can define the motivations, histories, and desires of entire groups of characters, and ground a moment emotionally - in addition to moving the plot forward. Every song in Beauty and the Beast does this, and every song is memorable and great.

Beauty and the Beast pretty much defines the perfect animated musical.

Oh good grief.  I saw it when it was released and I recently saw it again.  Like most Disney musicals of the era - it simply doesn't hold up.


What are some animated musicals that you think have held up?
 
2014-02-02 01:41:19 AM
You know what is more annoying than idiot Christian zealots reading non-existent gay overtones into EVERYTHING? When idiot gays do it. Project much? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
 
2014-02-02 02:10:33 AM
As I was watching the movie, I thought Kristoff, the guy who loved ice, was going to fall for the Ice Queen and vice versa; both he and Elsa would have to eat their words about falling for someone you have only known for a day, and the sisters would be married to their men in an overblown double wedding. I was very happily surprised by the ending.

Really, the only bits I could have done without were the trolls. They felt kind of tacked on, despite the plot purpose of providing magical advise.
 
2014-02-02 02:23:41 AM

redheededstepchild: Lilo and stitch didn't have a prince.


Lilo wasn't a princess, but good point.

It also featured characters who had body shapes instead of being bone thin.
 
2014-02-02 02:33:06 AM
Disney's sex messages have been there the whole time man...

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2014-02-02 02:33:22 AM

ZeroCorpse: syrynxx: When she finally lets it go and embraces her true self, she gets a fabulous new glittery gown to match her new attitude, lets her hair flow free, and sparkles for all to see. Oh, and then she builds herself a palace that resembles She-Ra's Crystal Castle from the '80s cartoon series. In a movie filled with gay stuff...this might be the gayest part of all.

Yesss.... because when you think of lesbians, you don't think of short haircuts, flannel, comfortable shoes and Subarus.  You think of glittery gowns and long flowing hair. Is this a satire piece?

You're obviously completely unfamiliar with lesbians.

WHO do you think those butch lesbians with the short haircuts and flannel are attracted to? Other butchies? Nope. Much of the time they're attracted to the lipstick lesbians. The more girly girls. The ones who dress like a princess.

Have you never even seen Ellen and Portia?

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Ellen's kind of pretty.
 
2014-02-02 02:35:11 AM

BullBearMS: Disney's sex messages have been there the whole time man...

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You win. Thanks,
 
2014-02-02 02:51:42 AM

optional: ZeroCorpse: syrynxx: When she finally lets it go and embraces her true self, she gets a fabulous new glittery gown to match her new attitude, lets her hair flow free, and sparkles for all to see. Oh, and then she builds herself a palace that resembles She-Ra's Crystal Castle from the '80s cartoon series. In a movie filled with gay stuff...this might be the gayest part of all.

Yesss.... because when you think of lesbians, you don't think of short haircuts, flannel, comfortable shoes and Subarus.  You think of glittery gowns and long flowing hair. Is this a satire piece?

You're obviously completely unfamiliar with lesbians.

WHO do you think those butch lesbians with the short haircuts and flannel are attracted to? Other butchies? Nope. Much of the time they're attracted to the lipstick lesbians. The more girly girls. The ones who dress like a princess.

Have you never even seen Ellen and Portia?

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Ellen's kind of pretty.


She could make me gay.
 
2014-02-02 03:01:36 AM
No. Frozen was just a bad to mediocre movie.
 
2014-02-02 03:16:36 AM

rzrwiresunrise: No. Frozen was just a bad to mediocre movie.


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2014-02-02 04:33:06 AM

texdent: Only thing I didn't like about Frozen was the snowman. Just found him to annoying.


You shut your whore mouth

/glad the daughter wanted to see it
//Olaf!
 
2014-02-02 04:33:36 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: rynthetyn: Wait, one of the reasons that the author thinks that the movie is gay is because the prince is voiced by a gay actor? That's why gay actors don't get cast in straight roles, and it's why actors stay in the closet.

While I don't doubt that can be true, sometimes they just aren't believable playing it straight, so it is a poor casting choice.

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//silly for it to be an issue in an animated feature, for sure.


The fact that you had to dig up Ellen's romcom that nobody saw because it was generally terrible kind of proves my point. If it was such a huge problem for gay actors to play believably straight roles, you would have been able to find more and better examples than a sitcom star's one attempt at crossing over into movies, particularly considering that sitcom actors often make horrible movies anyway (see, Jennifer Aniston's entire film career).
 
2014-02-02 08:03:13 AM

DamnYankees: Ed Grubermann: [img.fark.net image 721x729]

there Is a ton of Frozen rule 34, if you're into that sort of thing.

/my friend told me


Well, there's tonight's internet browsing topic all sorted out, then.
 
2014-02-02 08:17:06 AM
I actually had this thought walking out of the theater.  "Let it Go" could clearly be construed as a coming out anthem... except it's about a person WITH FRICKING ICE POWERS THAT ALMOST KILLED HER SISTER AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE BEFORE SHE STARTED AN ETERNAL WINTER.  All on accident.  It's the same reason the X-Men= gay analogy falls down.  Super powers are a bad analogy for being gay because misused gayness can't accidentally kill anybody.

"Let it GO" was also the most beautiful part of the film; she let's go of all her own rules that have been holding her back(what her parents taught plus what she added)  and immediately creates something beautiful.

As for whether Elsa is or not hetero, I think the movie gives us ample evidence to to conclude that she's clearly too worried about not killing anybody to actually notice anyone else in any way.  She'll figure it out now that she has figured out how to control her powers.
 
2014-02-02 08:19:37 AM

hardinparamedic: Considering Frozen was meant as a deconstruction of Disney Movie "princess" tropes (And oh boy, was it ever.), I think the writer needs to learn a little more about lesbians.


Haven't seen the movie.  Does Frozen break with the trope that Disney princesses must be thin, slim and trim, with long slender necks and a tiny waist, a perky nose, high cheeks and a gently rounded chin?  Or would giving up that template be too much?
 
2014-02-02 08:39:39 AM

fozziewazzi: hardinparamedic: Considering Frozen was meant as a deconstruction of Disney Movie "princess" tropes (And oh boy, was it ever.), I think the writer needs to learn a little more about lesbians.

Haven't seen the movie.  Does Frozen break with the trope that Disney princesses must be thin, slim and trim, with long slender necks and a tiny waist, a perky nose, high cheeks and a gently rounded chin?  Or would giving up that template be too much?


You're talking about American animation in general when it comes to women protagonists.

It directly deconstructs the Disney idea of love that most Disney movies with a princess or female protagonist push on the audience and young girls, and does so in a particularly brutal fashion - even going so far as to show outright physical abuse at the hands of the protagonist's "True love at first sight"
 
2014-02-02 10:11:33 AM

Gyrfalcon: If a woman has no interest in men, it's ONLY because she is interested in women. Because women can ONLY be interested in sex; females have zero interest in anything else. Any movie where the female lead is not interested in men means that she is, ipso facto, interested in women; otherwise she might--GASP!--be uninterested in sex at all, and we all know that that's completely impossible.


No one has any problem with this being true about men, however.

(So who did Dorothy want to bump uglies with?  I'm thinking the Tin Man.  And we all know why Alice was chasing the White Rabbit)
 
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