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(Metro)   Downtown Las Vegas positions itself as hipster tourist mecca in opposition to glitzy Strip, touts its retro casinos and arcades, widespread Bitcoin acceptance, underground art scene, and Occupy Las Vegas graffiti   (metro.co.uk) divider line 25
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2014-02-01 04:53:13 PM
 
2014-02-01 05:30:07 PM
And it would be an upgrade from what it used to be, which was basically a trailer park
 
2014-02-01 06:54:17 PM

Peter von Nostrand: And it would be an upgrade from what it used to be, which was basically a trailer park


Indeed. It's like the People of Walmart on vacation. Or Branson for lapsed Baptists
 
2014-02-01 07:12:08 PM
Oh boy!! Hipsters AND white trash! Let me hop a cab now.

/At least they left the locals places alone.
//Red Rock is like the Wynn for locals.
///And worth the drive.
 
2014-02-01 07:14:21 PM
I like Downtown. Love the Golden Spike, 4 Queens, Fitzgerald's, Lady Luck or Union Plaza with the adjacent Greyhound Depot, Amtrak trains used 2 stop right out back(too bad they tore down a classic Art Deco Union Pacific depot to build the place)...
 
2014-02-01 08:00:11 PM
I liked hanging out in the sleazy downtown area before it was cool.

Ask me about in the wild days of my misspent youth, my drunk buddy almost partook of a hooker with a knife wound scar on her neck named "Keenesha".

Good times.
 
2014-02-01 08:32:25 PM

Prophet of Loss: I liked hanging out in the sleazy downtown area before it was cool.

Ask me about in the wild days of my misspent youth, my drunk buddy almost partook of a hooker with a knife wound scar on her neck named "Keenesha".

Good times.


You sure he didn't accidentally try to hook up with Ke$ha?
 
2014-02-01 08:47:42 PM
I found it was way more fun to play poker downtown than on the strip.
 
2014-02-01 08:52:56 PM
I thought the whole point of Las Vegas was keeping the poor at math in one easily containable zone, with tourist buses going to non-gambling things.
 
2014-02-01 08:59:06 PM
The strip is an armpit. Three-foot wide stain on my hotel room carpet and a cockroach on my breakfast.
 
2014-02-01 09:00:26 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the whole point of Las Vegas was keeping the poor at math in one easily containable zone, with tourist buses going to non-gambling things.


It's about a $20 cab ride in bad traffic so it's not that much of a hardship.  More of question of what quality street performers you'd like to be accosted by outside.

/And how old the one-armed bandits are
 
2014-02-01 09:17:57 PM
pion  I found it was way more fun to play poker downtown than on the strip

more blackjack downtown than on The Strip...

Ken VeryBigLiar It's about a $20 cab ride in bad traffic so it's not that much of a hardship.

i like to take The Deuce($7 for 24 hours) & drink on the upstairs(but be discreet)
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g45963-i10-k990957-Can_you_drin k_ on_the_Deuce-Las_Vegas_Nevada.html
 
2014-02-01 09:45:55 PM
I know most folks think this is a sucker's bet, but if they play their cards right, odds are downtown could really push the strip for business. Now, they will never compete straight up, but with the right spread, downtown could become a favorite with the Hipsters. But they gotta go all in on this promo, no hedging their bets, even if it's a longshot. Anyway, I'd say it's worth a roll of the die, even if they are the underdog, but what do I know, I'm no wise guy.
 
2014-02-01 09:47:02 PM
I do get annoyed by Hipster actions often (stop being Pretentious Assholes and we won't complain about you guys and gals so much!), but I also seem to have a little "confused jealously". How is it that society is falling for these people being the "artistically" minded and rewarding them with parental or bank loans to start businesses with hazy premises?! (such as, "No, it's not going to be *just* a bike shop, it's going to be a 'bike shop/organic cafe/art gallery/concert venue/vintage arcade', I just need $50,000 to start it up and maybe a bit more later on! Thanks mom and dad!")

I pretty much dreamed when I was a young Babybat in early 2000 to be able to go to a downtown area in New Jersey that had a bunch of Goth/Punk stores (similar to how the Daria episode "Pierce Me" portrayed the location in the show known as 'Degas Street'), and of course only St Marks Place in NYC qualified (and only barely at the time, by approximately 2003 the top Goth store known as "Religious Sex" closed down [Rent was raised to $10,000 a month, I heard], the area had started to gentrify) Yet somehow Hipsters get funds to transform downtown areas like Red Bank, Asbury Park, Montclair, Newark, and others in NJ to their own little clique, I just don't get it.
 
2014-02-01 10:40:56 PM
I'm going to wait a few years before going to Vegas, mainly because I like visiting ghost towns.
 
2014-02-02 12:22:54 AM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the whole point of Las Vegas was keeping the poor at math in one easily containable zone


I'll stop you right there. Manipulating the math can be your friend in Vegas. If you use coupon books and rigorous devotion to leaving when your advantaged play is over, it is entirely possible to book a Vegas vacation that pays for its own airfare and part of the hotel.

Honestly, my last Vegas trip was cheaper than my last nearby B&B trip and the Vegas trip was way more fun.
 
2014-02-02 12:28:48 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: I do get annoyed by Hipster actions often (stop being Pretentious Assholes and we won't complain about you guys and gals so much!), but I also seem to have a little "confused jealously". How is it that society is falling for these people being the "artistically" minded and rewarding them with parental or bank loans to start businesses with hazy premises?! (such as, "No, it's not going to be *just* a bike shop, it's going to be a 'bike shop/organic cafe/art gallery/concert venue/vintage arcade', I just need $50,000 to start it up and maybe a bit more later on! Thanks mom and dad!")

I pretty much dreamed when I was a young Babybat in early 2000 to be able to go to a downtown area in New Jersey that had a bunch of Goth/Punk stores (similar to how the Daria episode "Pierce Me" portrayed the location in the show known as 'Degas Street'), and of course only St Marks Place in NYC qualified (and only barely at the time, by approximately 2003 the top Goth store known as "Religious Sex" closed down [Rent was raised to $10,000 a month, I heard], the area had started to gentrify) Yet somehow Hipsters get funds to transform downtown areas like Red Bank, Asbury Park, Montclair, Newark, and others in NJ to their own little clique, I just don't get it.


So people got the money to open their absurd goth stores, a fantasy you hoped to chase, back when you were a kid, and, now, you're confused how kids today get money to open their absurd-things-kids-are-into-today stores?

Here's a hint: Money doesn't give a shiat. Goth shiat, punk shiat, hip-hop shiat, Bieber shiat, shiat shiat... money doesn't care. Either those kids' parents have money or they convinced a bank they can make money. Either way, nothing changed.
 
2014-02-02 02:24:27 AM
Widespread bitcoin acceptance? Two casino gift shops accepting is "widespread"?
 
2014-02-02 07:57:08 AM
The founders of Zappos have been putting in a lot of money and effort into turning downtown Vegas into a live, work, play community. So far the results look promising but I suspect as soon as they get it to a certain point of desirability the standard McMansion and strip mall developers will flock like locust to turn it into suburban San Diego like they've done to most of the rest of Vegas off the strip.
 
2014-02-02 08:27:07 AM
downtown always > the strip.

you aint cool unless your getting ripped up at mermaids and cheap ass shrimp coctails at golden gate.
 
2014-02-02 09:20:38 AM
Going back to Vegas for a third time this spring. I better go out and buy some scarves, dumb hats and start twirl waxing my facial hair.
 
2014-02-02 09:27:24 AM

thurstonxhowell: DarkSoulNoHope: I do get annoyed by Hipster actions often (stop being Pretentious Assholes and we won't complain about you guys and gals so much!), but I also seem to have a little "confused jealously". How is it that society is falling for these people being the "artistically" minded and rewarding them with parental or bank loans to start businesses with hazy premises?! (such as, "No, it's not going to be *just* a bike shop, it's going to be a 'bike shop/organic cafe/art gallery/concert venue/vintage arcade', I just need $50,000 to start it up and maybe a bit more later on! Thanks mom and dad!")

I pretty much dreamed when I was a young Babybat in early 2000 to be able to go to a downtown area in New Jersey that had a bunch of Goth/Punk stores (similar to how the Daria episode "Pierce Me" portrayed the location in the show known as 'Degas Street'), and of course only St Marks Place in NYC qualified (and only barely at the time, by approximately 2003 the top Goth store known as "Religious Sex" closed down [Rent was raised to $10,000 a month, I heard], the area had started to gentrify) Yet somehow Hipsters get funds to transform downtown areas like Red Bank, Asbury Park, Montclair, Newark, and others in NJ to their own little clique, I just don't get it.

So people got the money to open their absurd goth stores, a fantasy you hoped to chase, back when you were a kid, and, now, you're confused how kids today get money to open their absurd-things-kids-are-into-today stores?

Here's a hint: Money doesn't give a shiat. Goth shiat, punk shiat, hip-hop shiat, Bieber shiat, shiat shiat... money doesn't care. Either those kids' parents have money or they convinced a bank they can make money. Either way, nothing changed.


I am not confused about that, just confused about the scale. Except in fiction, I used to never see a presence of "absurd" Goth and Punk stores (Hot Topic doesn't count) in a large grouping together except in an out-of-the-way section of a major city and only in fiction would I see that in a small town or city. Though now for Hipsters of these days (and it's not just kids, there are Hipsters now into their 40s and 50s; I'm only 32 myself :-/ ), mainly for the young ones though, somehow convinced their upper middle class (or higher) to give them funds to move into these areas to "become artistic". Which means that the amount of people there will increase, the older Hipsters will declare the area "played out" and move and gentrify another portion of the city or the downtown of a suburban neighborhood nearby, which increases the amount of stores and venues they have (the older Hipsters may leave, but they open up new shops in different areas, and the venues and stores there stay).

This is in stark contrast to what has happened to other subcultures over time, if they (like Goths) got even one downtown street, it didn't last and when the rents went up (wealthier people moving in) we didn't really have a place to go and the unlucky stores (like Religious Sex) shut down permanently. Eventually that downtown area would have lost that subculture that had that grouping of stores and then places like Starbucks or Johnny Rockets to take over for the stores that went. You didn't see a Goth with a career in marketing be able to keep their appearance (that's why there is such a clothing style called "Corporate Goth", where we dumb down our appearance for the business world but still look like us in some way that makes us comfortable to be in that business environment). It seems like Hipsters get to keep their piercings, tattoos, grandpa hats, chuck taylors to be able to show off some business idea to their older boss in a suit and tie. And Goths certainly didn't have parents willing to fund their lifestyle remotely for the child to be able for him or her to "be himself/herself" in some area where other Goths live (technically it wasn't even where the people of the Goth subculture lived with these places, most of them anyway, it was just a street that had a bunch of stores that catered to us that we visited occasionally).

As I said, "Confused Jealousy" (spelled it wrong the first time!) on how you've got "More alternative than thou" jerkoffs able to have their own clique in a much larger scale than any subculture than before and have followers come with large amounts of money and MOVE there, which leads to the Hipsters already there feeling like the area has "too many Hipsters" (saying this without looking in the mirror) and then them able to have the funds to start again somewhere else, which means their demographic spreads out rather than just wanes over time. The thing I guess I hate about it the most is the fact that somewhat unlike the cliques of the past that I was accustomed to (80s New Wave, 90s Grunge, 00s Hip Hop/Rap) now with 2010's Hipster (they started out in the late 90s, but didn't get the praise they're getting today) they're mostly "better than you because you don't conform to my clique" assholes (plus worse because once something they once embraced gets popular, they disown it and move onto a new trend), much more so than any past trend!

I feel even more sorry for the people who enjoy this stuff and try to get into it, but they aren't fast enough and suddenly something they do or enjoy "Oh, [that] was so last month man, [this] is the new thing now, what are you a *poseur*!?" Goths never did that to any person interested in the scene, for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a8r0kIxLK4 and that's why despise them at the same time have "confused jealousy". Making me wonder if the Goths should have been assholes and pretending to our parents that we're moving out to the city to "become artistic" and they'll throw their money at us to get an apartment and rent for an art gallery! (instead of what we do, which is just enjoy who we are and tell people who don't understand why we dress this way just say "I enjoy this for myself")
 
2014-02-02 12:51:20 PM
Good, stay there.
 
2014-02-02 05:24:15 PM

dletter: Plus this...

http://www.insertcoinslv.com/games/


Great.  A cool arcade that is filled with beautiful people where an ugly spud like me will stand out like a sore thumb.

No justice in this world, I tell you.
 
2014-02-02 11:05:34 PM

Close2TheEdge: dletter: Plus this...

http://www.insertcoinslv.com/games/

Great.  A cool arcade that is filled with beautiful people where an ugly spud like me will stand out like a sore thumb.

No justice in this world, I tell you.


You aren't kidding, Close2! Man, the way that they market this place, it seems like the video games are an afterthought (only time they show this "Video Game ArcadeBAR's" games is in the background of that intro video! I didn't know video gamers jumped their bikes on ramps that often... or that arcades involved having dubstep DJs, fire breathing bar tenders, and all the beautiful people in the world... I guess the 80s/90s arcades of my youth lied to me!
 
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