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(That Eric Alper)   I'll tell you something, I think you'll understand, When I say that something, "I Want To Hold Your Hand" hit #1 on Billboard 50 years ago today   (thatericalper.com) divider line 71
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2014-02-01 02:28:47 PM  
Pfft.  This song was so dirty back then!  I mean, they didn't even have hand sanitizer!
 
2014-02-01 02:42:46 PM  
At that point, they weren't yet more popular than Jesus.
 
2014-02-01 02:53:12 PM  
In deinen Armen bin ich glücklich und froh
Das war noch nie bei einer anderen
Einmal so!
Einmal so!
Einmal so!

/Runter von meinem Rasen
 
2014-02-01 04:23:51 PM  
Why did my mind start reading that headline to the tune of a Cypress Hill song?
 
2014-02-01 04:27:35 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: In deinen Armen bin ich glücklich und froh
Das war noch nie bei einer anderen
Einmal so!
Einmal so!
Einmal so!

/Runter von meinem Rasen


Yup, I can sing the whole thing phonetically, but it's nice to see the actual words for a change lol

/Hail to you, O, Beatles!
 
2014-02-01 04:51:35 PM  
And 8 days from now (8 days a week?) will be the 50th Anniversary of their first appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show. Arguably a more important cultural event than IWTHYH reaching #1.
 
2014-02-01 04:55:43 PM  
I WANNA CHOKE YOUR BAAAAND
I WANNA CHOKE YOUR BAND

/not obscure
 
2014-02-01 05:08:39 PM  
Oh yea, I,
Will tell you something, I think you'll understand
And I,will tell you something..........
My pecker's in my hand! Yea, my pecker's in my hand, hand, hand
I know you'll be a fan.
 
2014-02-01 05:16:10 PM  

crotchgrabber: Why did my mind start reading that headline to the tune of a Cypress Hill song?


Because you're awesome.
 
2014-02-01 05:21:16 PM  
Damn, people 50 years ago had awesome musical taste
 
2014-02-01 05:24:46 PM  
Less repetitive and boring than "hey Jude" at least.

/but still repetitive and boring
 
2014-02-01 05:29:35 PM  

orangehat: crotchgrabber: Why did my mind start reading that headline to the tune of a Cypress Hill song?

Because you're awesome.


Alright. I can accept that answer.
 
2014-02-01 05:31:57 PM  
Speaking of worst 'rock' songs in history.
 
2014-02-01 05:36:20 PM  
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-02-01 05:37:15 PM  
Do you want to know a secret
Do you promise not to tell, whoa oh, oh

Closer
Let me whisper in your ear
Say the words you long to hear

I wanna hold your hand

The Beatles could've done mash-ups with any of these types of songs.
 
2014-02-01 05:42:22 PM  
Most overrated band ever.
 
2014-02-01 05:42:40 PM  
We need a song for my staff band (at the elementary school at which I teach) to play at the Valentine's Day assembly. I'd suggested this one, and was thinking I needed to push for it, cuz it's easy (and of course awesome). Seeing this was the impetus I needed, and I just forwarded the link to my guitarist buddy.
/csb
 
2014-02-01 05:42:44 PM  
They were only good when Clarence Walker was in the band singing and playing saxophone.
 
2014-02-01 05:48:35 PM  
 
2014-02-01 05:52:21 PM  
And music has gone downhill ever since.

....

*flees thread*
 
2014-02-01 06:14:06 PM  

crotchgrabber: orangehat: crotchgrabber: Why did my mind start reading that headline to the tune of a Cypress Hill song?

Because you're awesome.

Alright. I can accept that answer.


I too wamt to confirm your awesomeness.
 
2014-02-01 06:19:09 PM  
I want to hold your ham...
cf.foodista.com

That's what I heard when I was 5... I just figured he was hungry...
 
2014-02-01 06:19:56 PM  
This was still at the point where the Beatles could honestly claim to have written what they performed.

Three guitars and drum -- they probably wrote it.

Anything else -- Lennon and/or McCartney basically hummed a tune, presented some ideas for lyrics, and then George Martin composed and arranged it. Most of the internecine rivalry the destroyed the group came less from creative differences, and more from the general resentment that they were famous artistes who still had to be coached and tutored to play what had been prepared.

None of the Beatles could read music. McCartney *still* can't sight-read a Mel Bay primer, though if shown pictures of the chords, can play quite well.

Lennon is generally credited with lyrics, and McCartney with the music, but that's simply not the case. George Martin was responsible for what was recorded. The independent work of each Beatle from 1970 onwards shows them to be ordinary yet talented hacks.
 
2014-02-01 06:24:05 PM  

letrole: This was still at the point where the Beatles could honestly claim to have written what they performed.

Three guitars and drum -- they probably wrote it.

Anything else -- Lennon and/or McCartney basically hummed a tune, presented some ideas for lyrics, and then George Martin composed and arranged it. Most of the internecine rivalry the destroyed the group came less from creative differences, and more from the general resentment that they were famous artistes who still had to be coached and tutored to play what had been prepared.

None of the Beatles could read music. McCartney *still* can't sight-read a Mel Bay primer, though if shown pictures of the chords, can play quite well.

Lennon is generally credited with lyrics, and McCartney with the music, but that's simply not the case. George Martin was responsible for what was recorded. The independent work of each Beatle from 1970 onwards shows them to be ordinary yet talented hacks.



Stil better than your band, French word for "the troll."
 
2014-02-01 06:25:17 PM  

Explodo: Most overrated band ever.


No, that would be Rush.
 
2014-02-01 06:27:21 PM  

stoli n coke: Stil better than your band, French word for "the troll."


I know. It is indeed a piss-poor band. We only have one groupie -- your mum.
 
2014-02-01 06:29:32 PM  

letrole: This was still at the point where the Beatles could honestly claim to have written what they performed.

Three guitars and drum -- they probably wrote it.

Anything else -- Lennon and/or McCartney basically hummed a tune, presented some ideas for lyrics, and then George Martin composed and arranged it. Most of the internecine rivalry the destroyed the group came less from creative differences, and more from the general resentment that they were famous artistes who still had to be coached and tutored to play what had been prepared.

None of the Beatles could read music. McCartney *still* can't sight-read a Mel Bay primer, though if shown pictures of the chords, can play quite well.

Lennon is generally credited with lyrics, and McCartney with the music, but that's simply not the case. George Martin was responsible for what was recorded. The independent work of each Beatle from 1970 onwards shows them to be ordinary yet talented hacks.


Beatlemania is a religion.
 
2014-02-01 06:29:50 PM  

letrole: stoli n coke: Stil better than your band, French word for "the troll."

I know. It is indeed a piss-poor band. We only have one groupie -- your mum.



Figures. She has horrible taste in music.
 
2014-02-01 06:30:20 PM  

Explodo: Most overrated band ever.


Judging by this thread, I'm the most overrated Farker ever. Damn, I'm awesome.
 
2014-02-01 06:38:23 PM  

stoli n coke: Figures. She has horrible taste in music.


And even worse parenting skills.
 
2014-02-01 06:38:36 PM  

John Buck 41: And 8 days from now (8 days a week?) will be the 50th Anniversary of their first appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show. Arguably a more important cultural event than IWTHYH reaching #1.


My recollection is that my third grade class was all but unanimous in its enthusiasm on Monday after that first Sullivan gig. One girl gave it a thumbs down, but she was a stuck-up little biatch.


 

letrole: This was still at the point where the Beatles could honestly claim to have written what they performed.

Three guitars and drum -- they probably wrote it.

Anything else -- Lennon and/or McCartney basically hummed a tune, presented some ideas for lyrics, and then George Martin composed and arranged it. Most of the internecine rivalry the destroyed the group came less from creative differences, and more from the general resentment that they were famous artistes who still had to be coached and tutored to play what had been prepared.

None of the Beatles could read music. McCartney *still* can't sight-read a Mel Bay primer, though if shown pictures of the chords, can play quite well.

Lennon is generally credited with lyrics, and McCartney with the music, but that's simply not the case. George Martin was responsible for what was recorded. The independent work of each Beatle from 1970 onwards shows them to be ordinary yet talented hacks.


Generally? By whom? You were already blathering hard, but you saved the blatheriest for last.
 
2014-02-01 06:47:28 PM  

stoli n coke: Explodo: Most overrated band ever.

No, that would be RushPinkFloydKissGratefulDeadPhishinsertnameofbandyouhatehere

 
2014-02-01 06:48:18 PM  
letrole: Lennon is generally credited with lyrics, and McCartney with the music, but that's simply not the case. George Martin was responsible for what was recorded. The independent work of each Beatle from 1970 onwards shows them to be ordinary yet talented hacks.

DrBenway: Generally? By whom? You were already blathering hard, but you saved the blatheriest for last.

They agreed to share credit of all songs regardless of who contributed. Lennon is seen as the better poet, McCartney as the stronger composer and arranger. But this holds true only if the myth of the Beatles is accepted. George Martin is the real author.
 
2014-02-01 07:00:04 PM  

letrole: letrole: Lennon is generally credited with lyrics, and McCartney with the music, but that's simply not the case. George Martin was responsible for what was recorded. The independent work of each Beatle from 1970 onwards shows them to be ordinary yet talented hacks.

DrBenway: Generally? By whom? You were already blathering hard, but you saved the blatheriest for last.

They agreed to share credit of all songs regardless of who contributed. Lennon is seen as the better poet, McCartney as the stronger composer and arranger. But this holds true only if the myth of the Beatles is accepted. George Martin is the real author.


But that's not the question. Who generally credits Lennon with the lyrics and McCartney with the music? And while we're at it, your repeated overstatement regarding Martin isn't really making you look any smarter, either.
 
2014-02-01 07:07:25 PM  

LewDux: Damn, people 50 years ago had awesome musical taste


Mmmmm, maybe not:

BILLBOARD (USA) MAGAZINE'S SINGLES CHART FOR WEEK OF:February 1,1964
TW LW Wks. Song-Artist
1 3 3 I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND-BEATLES
2 13 6 You Don't Own Me-Lesley Gore
3 6 9 Out Of Limits-Marketts
4 4 9 Surfin' Bird-The Trashmen
5 7 8 Hey Little Cobra-Rip Chords
6 2 13 Louie,Louie-Kingsmen
7 1 10 There I've Said It Again!-Bobby Vinton
8 9 5 Um,Um,Um,Um,Um,Um-Major Lance
9 16 9 Anyone Who Had A Heart-Dionne Warwick
10 14 6 For You-Rick Nelson
11 5 11 Popsicles,Icicles-Murmaids
 
2014-02-01 07:08:42 PM  
I remember that.

/first LP I bought was "Meet the Beatles"
 
2014-02-01 07:13:32 PM  
Einstein is the most overrated physicist ever.
 
2014-02-01 07:14:44 PM  

clintster: LewDux: Damn, people 50 years ago had awesome musical taste

Mmmmm, maybe not:

BILLBOARD (USA) MAGAZINE'S SINGLES CHART FOR WEEK OF:February 1,1964
TW LW Wks. Song-Artist
1 3 3 I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND-BEATLES
2 13 6 You Don't Own Me-Lesley Gore
3 6 9 Out Of Limits-Marketts
4 4 9 Surfin' Bird-The Trashmen
5 7 8 Hey Little Cobra-Rip Chords
6 2 13 Louie,Louie-Kingsmen
7 1 10 There I've Said It Again!-Bobby Vinton
8 9 5 Um,Um,Um,Um,Um,Um-Major Lance
9 16 9 Anyone Who Had A Heart-Dionne Warwick
10 14 6 For You-Rick Nelson
11 5 11 Popsicles,Icicles-Murmaids



In one week, there were 3 top 10 songs that would still be liked by people 50 years later. That's pretty amazing.
 
2014-02-01 07:18:19 PM  
....actually, my analogy failed.

I will attempt again:


Aristotle is the most overrated scientist.


(Einstein was great but he was NOT one of  the first.)
 
2014-02-01 07:21:49 PM  
In one week, there were 3 top 10 songs that would still be liked by people 50 years later. That's pretty amazing.

you're including Lesley Gore, of course?

I luv the early Beatles stuff cause the songs had so much joy
 
2014-02-01 07:24:26 PM  

clintster: LewDux: Damn, people 50 years ago had awesome musical taste

Mmmmm, maybe not:

BILLBOARD (USA) MAGAZINE'S SINGLES CHART FOR WEEK OF:February 1,1964
TW LW Wks. Song-Artist
1 3 3 I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND-BEATLES
2 13 6 You Don't Own Me-Lesley Gore
3 6 9 Out Of Limits-Marketts
4 4 9 Surfin' Bird-The Trashmen
5 7 8 Hey Little Cobra-Rip Chords
6 2 13 Louie,Louie-Kingsmen
7 1 10 There I've Said It Again!-Bobby Vinton
8 9 5 Um,Um,Um,Um,Um,Um-Major Lance
9 16 9 Anyone Who Had A Heart-Dionne Warwick
10 14 6 For You-Rick Nelson
11 5 11 Popsicles,Icicles-Murmaids


Are you kidding? You're kidding, right? Overall, that's a pretty solid list.
 
2014-02-01 07:26:58 PM  

clintster: LewDux: Damn, people 50 years ago had awesome musical taste

Mmmmm, maybe not:

BILLBOARD (USA) MAGAZINE'S SINGLES CHART FOR WEEK OF:February 1,1964
TW LW Wks. Song-Artist
1 3 3 I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND-BEATLES
2 13 6 You Don't Own Me-Lesley Gore
3 6 9 Out Of Limits-Marketts
4 4 9 Surfin' Bird-The Trashmen
5 7 8 Hey Little Cobra-Rip Chords
6 2 13 Louie,Louie-Kingsmen
7 1 10 There I've Said It Again!-Bobby Vinton
8 9 5 Um,Um,Um,Um,Um,Um-Major Lance
9 16 9 Anyone Who Had A Heart-Dionne Warwick
10 14 6 For You-Rick Nelson
11 5 11 Popsicles,Icicles-Murmaids


The bolded song was much more influential than the Beatles track at #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184
 
2014-02-01 07:27:21 PM  

letrole: They agreed to share credit of all songs regardless of who contributed. Lennon is seen as the better poet, McCartney as the stronger composer and arranger. But this holds true only if the myth of the Beatles is accepted. George Martin is the real author.


DrBenway: But that's not the question. Who generally credits Lennon with the lyrics and McCartney with the music? And while we're at it, your repeated overstatement regarding Martin isn't really making you look any smarter, either.


Using small words now, both names are listed. Lennon/McCartney. Two names. But that is still the case even if a song was claimed to be written by one ie Yesterday, Paul McCartney. If you seek a citation for the music and lyric skill-set split for Lennon/McCarney, you are advised to contact your local community college for class schedules. Many music appreciation courses explore the foundations of modern music, with interesting life histories of composers and the way that music is made.


Sorry if a few big words slipped in there.

 
2014-02-01 07:30:45 PM  

DrBenway: clintster: LewDux: Damn, people 50 years ago had awesome musical taste

Mmmmm, maybe not:

BILLBOARD (USA) MAGAZINE'S SINGLES CHART FOR WEEK OF:February 1,1964
TW LW Wks. Song-Artist
1 3 3 I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND-BEATLES
2 13 6 You Don't Own Me-Lesley Gore
3 6 9 Out Of Limits-Marketts
4 4 9 Surfin' Bird-The Trashmen
5 7 8 Hey Little Cobra-Rip Chords
6 2 13 Louie,Louie-Kingsmen
7 1 10 There I've Said It Again!-Bobby Vinton
8 9 5 Um,Um,Um,Um,Um,Um-Major Lance
9 16 9 Anyone Who Had A Heart-Dionne Warwick
10 14 6 For You-Rick Nelson
11 5 11 Popsicles,Icicles-Murmaids

Are you kidding? You're kidding, right? Overall, that's a pretty solid list.


Heh.
 
2014-02-01 07:35:16 PM  
You know who's got hands? The devil. And he uses them for holding.

/wrong son died
 
2014-02-01 07:41:17 PM  
 
2014-02-01 07:45:22 PM  

Kid Lester: wrong son died



I say that to myself every time I see Jim Belushi on TV.
 
2014-02-01 07:45:54 PM  

letrole: letrole: They agreed to share credit of all songs regardless of who contributed. Lennon is seen as the better poet, McCartney as the stronger composer and arranger. But this holds true only if the myth of the Beatles is accepted. George Martin is the real author.
DrBenway: But that's not the question. Who generally credits Lennon with the lyrics and McCartney with the music? And while we're at it, your repeated overstatement regarding Martin isn't really making you look any smarter, either.
Using small words now, both names are listed. Lennon/McCartney. Two names. But that is still the case even if a song was claimed to be written by one ie Yesterday, Paul McCartney. If you seek a citation for the music and lyric skill-set split for Lennon/McCarney, you are advised to contact your local community college for class schedules. Many music appreciation courses explore the foundations of modern music, with interesting life histories of composers and the way that music is made.
Sorry if a few big words slipped in there.


No, you're avoiding the point. You had said that generally Lennon was considered the lyricist and McCartney the creator of the melodies. You have been challenged to back that up, which you cannot, because it is not true. That is not the same as saying (as some have and I think falsely) that Lennon was a better lyricist and McCartney better at melody. Yes, they shared credit even though many - and eventually all - of the songs was written by only one or the other of them.
 
2014-02-01 07:49:33 PM  

Robert1966: letrole: letrole: They agreed to share credit of all songs regardless of who contributed. Lennon is seen as the better poet, McCartney as the stronger composer and arranger. But this holds true only if the myth of the Beatles is accepted. George Martin is the real author.
DrBenway: But that's not the question. Who generally credits Lennon with the lyrics and McCartney with the music? And while we're at it, your repeated overstatement regarding Martin isn't really making you look any smarter, either.
Using small words now, both names are listed. Lennon/McCartney. Two names. But that is still the case even if a song was claimed to be written by one ie Yesterday, Paul McCartney. If you seek a citation for the music and lyric skill-set split for Lennon/McCarney, you are advised to contact your local community college for class schedules. Many music appreciation courses explore the foundations of modern music, with interesting life histories of composers and the way that music is made.
Sorry if a few big words slipped in there.

No, you're avoiding the point. You had said that generally Lennon was considered the lyricist and McCartney the creator of the melodies. You have been challenged to back that up, which you cannot, because it is not true. That is not the same as saying (as some have and I think falsely) that Lennon was a better lyricist and McCartney better at melody. Yes, they shared credit even though many - and eventually all - of the songs was written by only one or the other of them.



Exactly. This wasn't like the Stones where, on many of the songs, Jagger would write the lyrics and Keith would write the tune. The Beatles were a good band, but they were pretty bad at collaborating. Usually, one person would do the lion's share of the work on each song, with the others making small contributions.
 
2014-02-01 07:53:37 PM  

letrole: This was still at the point where the Beatles could honestly claim to have written what they performed.

Three guitars and drum -- they probably wrote it.

Anything else -- Lennon and/or McCartney basically hummed a tune, presented some ideas for lyrics, and then George Martin composed and arranged it. Most of the internecine rivalry the destroyed the group came less from creative differences, and more from the general resentment that they were famous artistes who still had to be coached and tutored to play what had been prepared.

None of the Beatles could read music. McCartney *still* can't sight-read a Mel Bay primer, though if shown pictures of the chords, can play quite well.

Lennon is generally credited with lyrics, and McCartney with the music, but that's simply not the case. George Martin was responsible for what was recorded. The independent work of each Beatle from 1970 onwards shows them to be ordinary yet talented hacks.


I hope you're trolling, because if you think this is true, you're dangerously insane.
 
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