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(Digital Spy)   The new Peter Pan reboot will be "just like Arrow," claims the film's producer, who clearly wants to disappoint everyone   (digitalspy.com) divider line 44
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2014-02-01 01:21:44 PM  
Y'know, I like Arrow but I can't see a Peter Pan version of the show. On the other hand, maybe they'll go the "Hook was the good guy saving children from the evil kidnapper".
 
2014-02-01 02:38:23 PM  
Producer: "Don't worry, everyone.  The new movie I'm working on is completely unoriginal and derivative.  Not only am I desecrating a classic of children's literature, but I'm making sure it can be easily confused with something else completely unrelated."

Audience:  "Phew, you had us worried there!"
 
2014-02-01 03:19:28 PM  
So Peter Pan has a super hot younger sister with a drug problem? Nice.
 
2014-02-01 03:20:57 PM  

Exception Collection: Y'know, I like Arrow but I can't see a Peter Pan version of the show. On the other hand, maybe they'll go the "Hook was the good guy saving children from the evil kidnapper".


Well, I wouldn't say "good", more like "chaotic neutral"

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2014-02-01 03:22:19 PM  
Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.
 
2014-02-01 03:23:06 PM  

soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.


ditto. its the only show i look forward to every week
 
2014-02-01 03:30:11 PM  
So 75% of the show is going to be about Peter and his wealthy family, and his on-again-off-again relationship with Wendy, the love of his life, who starts dating James VonHook when she and Peter are no longer together?
 
2014-02-01 03:51:15 PM  

ZeroCorpse: So 75% of the show is going to be about Peter and his wealthy family, and his on-again-off-again relationship with Wendy, the love of his life, who starts dating James VonHook when she and Peter are no longer together?


Only for the first hour. The second hour will be about kickass super action with tons of innovative stunt work and practical special effects all while introducing more and more characters from the Peter Pan universe.
 
2014-02-01 04:19:21 PM  
Why are they even doing this?

Once Upon A Time has done a great job.
I like the thought that he's just a prick looking after himself like a spoiled child.
 
2014-02-01 04:23:19 PM  
You have failed this franchise.
 
2014-02-01 04:32:06 PM  

soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.


I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.
 
2014-02-01 05:24:17 PM  

Boojum2k: soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.

I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.


Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff.  They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).
 
2014-02-01 05:29:48 PM  
I've lost my nail clippers.

That's about the extent of my interest in this.
 
2014-02-01 06:05:31 PM  
I like Arrow. That said, this last week had me shaking my head a little. I can handle a vigilante w/ a bow and arrow, the super-proficient hacker grrrl, the super soldier serum, a dude blocking arrows w/ claws, and all the other goofy comic book stuff. But to sit there and say, "this lady, who just barely beat a murder one rap for setting up an earthquake bomb which killed hundreds of people, yeah, let's make her a mayoral candidate! And she's the ultimate 1%er! Her kids have been in and out of the tabloids for drugs! Great idea!"
 
2014-02-01 06:11:35 PM  

RyansPrivates: Boojum2k: soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.

I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.

Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff.  They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).


I like AoS and I never heard about Arrow until Fark started talking about it. I have zero investment or knowledge of the comic, should I jump in now, or hunt down the old episodes?
 
2014-02-01 06:12:37 PM  

crotchgrabber: RyansPrivates: Boojum2k: soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.

I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.

Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff.  They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

I like AoS and I never heard about Arrow until Fark started talking about it. I have zero investment or knowledge of the comic, should I jump in now, or hunt down the old episodes?


Start with episode 1, season, 1, give it four or five to grow on you, but it will.
 
2014-02-01 06:15:02 PM  

Boojum2k: crotchgrabber: RyansPrivates: Boojum2k: soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.

I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.

Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff.  They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

I like AoS and I never heard about Arrow until Fark started talking about it. I have zero investment or knowledge of the comic, should I jump in now, or hunt down the old episodes?

Start with episode 1, season, 1, give it four or five to grow on you, but it will.


You can safely skip the first two Count Vertigo episodes, and the last Huntress episode. Watch the last four episodes of season one, the two Barry Allen episodes, and the Solomon Grundy episode twice.
 
2014-02-01 06:19:19 PM  

Trocadero: Boojum2k: crotchgrabber: RyansPrivates: Boojum2k: soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.

I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.

Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff.  They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

I like AoS and I never heard about Arrow until Fark started talking about it. I have zero investment or knowledge of the comic, should I jump in now, or hunt down the old episodes?

Start with episode 1, season, 1, give it four or five to grow on you, but it will.

You can safely skip the first two Count Vertigo episodes, and the last Huntress episode. Watch the last four episodes of season one, the two Barry Allen episodes, and the Solomon Grundy episode twice.


Heh... because I know which ones those are... Thanks though. I'm taking notes.
 
2014-02-01 06:20:17 PM  

crotchgrabber: Heh... because I know which ones those are... Thanks though. I'm taking notes.


Watch them all, even when it has its bad points, they're still better than most any other show on.
 
2014-02-01 06:29:16 PM  

crotchgrabber: RyansPrivates: Boojum2k: soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.

I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.

Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff.  They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

I like AoS and I never heard about Arrow until Fark started talking about it. I have zero investment or knowledge of the comic, should I jump in now, or hunt down the old episodes?


I would start from the beginning, mostly.  The relationship stuff, as I mentioned, is in my opinion the weakest part of the show.  The crimefighting, backstory, etc. are pretty good.  I don't think it is one of the best shows on TV (lot of competition with Walking Dead, Mad Men, Game of Thrones, House of Cards), but I do think it is the best 'superhero' show on now, and probably in the top few ever.

I had a lot of hope for AoS, but there are some real pacing problems.  The budget is there, so in many ways the effects are better than Arrow, but Arrow seems to have more "heart".  I think the Oliver/Diggle/Felicity dynamic is really good.
 
2014-02-01 06:34:20 PM  

RyansPrivates: Boojum2k: soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.

I like Agents of Shield, but I agree with this. Arrow is pretty awesome.

Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff.  They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).


I was wondering what they were doing with Laurel this year and then last week happened.  She's been downgraded from "soulmate" to character development for both Ollie, her dad, and Sarah, which is just about right for her.
 
2014-02-01 06:34:35 PM  
I like Arrow a lot more that I expected to

Still not interested in a darkererer and grittererer peter pan though
 
2014-02-01 07:17:26 PM  

Trik: I like Arrow a lot more that I expected to

Still not interested in a darkererer and grittererer peter pan though


Yeah, not sure how that would work, Peter Pan just doesn't have anything to do with dark or gritty. Green Arrow/Oliver Queen on the other hand works very well in that context. Hopefully they get rid of Laurel soon though, she's just annoying at this point, and a really weak character, especially given the very strong female characters already on the show. No matter how hard they try, she's just not interesting.

On another note, I think it could be fun to have a whole episode through the perspective of Felicity.
 
2014-02-01 07:23:01 PM  

soporific: Arrow is easily one of my favorite shows at the moment, way better than Agents of Shield. You could do worse than to be more like that show.


Funny, I just finished this week's episode.  God, it's moments like the reveal and ending that make me think they're building something special with that show.
 
2014-02-01 07:46:28 PM  
I actually like Arrow a lot more than I thought I would.  There is a bit too much angsty melodramatic stuff (especially in the first few episodes of the series for anybody looking to get into it), but other than that its solid.
 
2014-02-01 07:47:13 PM  
RyansPrivates:
Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff. They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

Same here. That's the influence of the CW network, IMHO....

/ still a good show
 
2014-02-01 07:51:17 PM  
So... full of microsoft product placement and a weird-faced girl who slurs her speech?
 
2014-02-01 08:12:15 PM  

LectertheChef: Trik: I like Arrow a lot more that I expected to

Still not interested in a darkererer and grittererer peter pan though

Yeah, not sure how that would work, Peter Pan just doesn't have anything to do with dark or gritty. Green Arrow/Oliver Queen on the other hand works very well in that context. Hopefully they get rid of Laurel soon though, she's just annoying at this point, and a really weak character, especially given the very strong female characters already on the show. No matter how hard they try, she's just not interesting.

On another note, I think it could be fun to have a whole episode through the perspective of Felicity.


I like Ever After's take on Peter Pan being the manipulative child abductor. It makes perfect sense and it puts the classic Disney movie into a different perspective.
 
2014-02-01 09:04:24 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: RyansPrivates:
Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff. They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

Same here. That's the influence of the CW network, IMHO....

/ still a good show


I felt like Laurel was a pretty useless character for quite a while, but these last couple of episodes I think they're starting to improve on that.
 
2014-02-01 09:08:28 PM  
What a Peter Pan looks like
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Damn that's a complicated family tree.
 
2014-02-01 09:39:23 PM  

thetrenchcoat: You have failed this franchise.


And we're done here
 
2014-02-01 09:42:20 PM  

Trocadero: I like Arrow. That said, this last week had me shaking my head a little. I can handle a vigilante w/ a bow and arrow, the super-proficient hacker grrrl, the super soldier serum, a dude blocking arrows w/ claws, and all the other goofy comic book stuff. But to sit there and say, "this lady, who just barely beat a murder one rap for setting up an earthquake bomb which killed hundreds of people, yeah, let's make her a mayoral candidate! And she's the ultimate 1%er! Her kids have been in and out of the tabloids for drugs! Great idea!"


Rob ford got elected. But ya I agree. But at least it brings Walter back and gives Moira something to do. And we all know Malcolm is going to somehow ruin this plan in some way.

But that was totally forgiven by suicide squad reference and birds of prey being one of the next few episodes.

THIS IS HOW YOU DO WORLD BUILDING MARVEL
 
2014-02-01 10:00:19 PM  
oh just make it about Peter Panzerfaust and take my money already
 
2014-02-01 10:04:31 PM  
I liked Arrow, as dubious as the plot was. Fell off on it, though, mostly because I was super busy moving and tying up my loose ends in Chicago. No complaints here, though.
 
2014-02-02 01:14:34 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: RyansPrivates:
Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff. They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

Same here. That's the influence of the CW network, IMHO....

/ still a good show


I get the feeling some weeks they are trying to evenly blend stuff to make Arrow a perfect show for couples to watch.

Gratuitous Oliver abs shots and endless talk about feelings which keep the ladies viewers happy and the fights, explosions and chase scenes for the fellas.

Everyone walks away from the couch a winner.

The Felicity Smoak character played by Emily Bett Rickards slays me. Great comedic timing that one.

Plus it was nice to see John Barrowman and Alex Kingston rawk their American accents.

Also like AOS. Not much interest in a Peter Pan reboot TBH.
 
2014-02-02 03:03:07 AM  

hammer85: Trocadero: I like Arrow. That said, this last week had me shaking my head a little. I can handle a vigilante w/ a bow and arrow, the super-proficient hacker grrrl, the super soldier serum, a dude blocking arrows w/ claws, and all the other goofy comic book stuff. But to sit there and say, "this lady, who just barely beat a murder one rap for setting up an earthquake bomb which killed hundreds of people, yeah, let's make her a mayoral candidate! And she's the ultimate 1%er! Her kids have been in and out of the tabloids for drugs! Great idea!"

Rob ford got elected. But ya I agree. But at least it brings Walter back and gives Moira something to do. And we all know Malcolm is going to somehow ruin this plan in some way.

But that was totally forgiven by suicide squad reference and birds of prey being one of the next few episodes.





Hang on, they're bringing Helena back? Crap. I HATE her in this show. The actress is horrible AND she's just WAY to petite to be believable doing a few of things they've had her doing, like, say, snapping Tahmoh Penikett's neck from the front with one hand(he's like 6'5 and in shape and he still couldn't physically do that to her given a role reversal). That said, Felicity makes a great Oracle, and Canary was a very pleasant surprise.
 
2014-02-02 03:32:55 AM  

quatchi: Forbidden Doughnut: RyansPrivates:
Arrow is better than AoS.  I like Arrow just fine, but find myself skipping the angsty mother/daughter and Oliver/Laurel stuff. They are being pretty clever about tying into/creating a rogues gallery that is inspired by, but not directly copied from the comics.  (i.e. Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy, which I hope the follow up on).

Same here. That's the influence of the CW network, IMHO....

/ still a good show

I get the feeling some weeks they are trying to evenly blend stuff to make Arrow a perfect show for couples to watch.

Gratuitous Oliver abs shots and endless talk about feelings which keep the ladies viewers happy and the fights, explosions and chase scenes for the fellas.

Everyone walks away from the couch a winner.

The Felicity Smoak character played by Emily Bett Rickards slays me. Great comedic timing that one.

Plus it was nice to see John Barrowman and Alex Kingston rawk their American accents.

Also like AOS. Not much interest in a Peter Pan reboot TBH.


I think you're on to something- Arrow is one of the few shows I watch that my lady is happy to sit and watch with me
 
2014-02-02 08:44:07 AM  
Is the headline just trolling?
 
2014-02-02 12:15:55 PM  

Jarhead_h: hammer85: Trocadero: I like Arrow. That said, this last week had me shaking my head a little. I can handle a vigilante w/ a bow and arrow, the super-proficient hacker grrrl, the super soldier serum, a dude blocking arrows w/ claws, and all the other goofy comic book stuff. But to sit there and say, "this lady, who just barely beat a murder one rap for setting up an earthquake bomb which killed hundreds of people, yeah, let's make her a mayoral candidate! And she's the ultimate 1%er! Her kids have been in and out of the tabloids for drugs! Great idea!"

Rob ford got elected. But ya I agree. But at least it brings Walter back and gives Moira something to do. And we all know Malcolm is going to somehow ruin this plan in some way.

But that was totally forgiven by suicide squad reference and birds of prey being one of the next few episodes.

Hang on, they're bringing Helena back? Crap. I HATE her in this show. The actress is horrible AND she's just WAY to petite to be believable doing a few of things they've had her doing, like, say, snapping Tahmoh Penikett's neck from the front with one hand(he's like 6'5 and in shape and he still couldn't physically do that to her given a role reversal). That said, Felicity makes a great Oracle, and Canary was a very pleasant surprise.


Nyssa Al'Ghul is up this week along with a return of Dinah (Alex Kingston)
 
2014-02-02 04:24:37 PM  

texdent: What a Peter Pan looks like
[img.fark.net image 300x168]

Damn that's a complicated family tree.


I wonder what Thanksgiving is like....
 
2014-02-02 04:30:25 PM  
RyansPrivates:

I had a lot of hope for AoS, but there are some real pacing problems.  The budget is there, so in many ways the effects are better than Arrow, but Arrow seems to have more "heart".  I think the Oliver/Diggle/Felicity dynamic is really good.

For TV, the action sequences are amazing. I'm still wondering what they're going to do with Summer Glau though.

As for AoS, killing Sky would take the show light years forward. If only Grant were played by a young John Barrowman.  The show would be so much more interesting.

/Never read the comics.
//Was happy to see Barrowman in Arrow.
/// Yum
 
2014-02-02 06:22:01 PM  

ZombieApocalypseKitten: RyansPrivates:

I had a lot of hope for AoS, but there are some real pacing problems.  The budget is there, so in many ways the effects are better than Arrow, but Arrow seems to have more "heart".  I think the Oliver/Diggle/Felicity dynamic is really good.

For TV, the action sequences are amazing. I'm still wondering what they're going to do with Summer Glau though.

As for AoS, killing Sky would take the show light years forward. If only Grant were played by a young John Barrowman.  The show would be so much more interesting.

/Never read the comics.
//Was happy to see Barrowman in Arrow.
/// Yum



I wasn't too crazy about Sky either, until the last episode where we find out a bit of her past.

Here's my theory how Season 1 of AoS is going to end:


SPOILERS


I think Sky is a Kree, born to pink Kree refugees that crashed on Earth. If she was an 'Object of Unknown Origin', why did SHIELD send in 2 strike teams when the who series is about a small team sent in to investigate those exact cases? Now, a crashed alien ship would make sense for sending in a huge presence like that. Also, introducing the idea of the Kree in AoS saves about 15 minutes of exposition in Guardians of the Galaxy, since Ronan is the big bad guy in the film. Also, explaining that there's two races of Kree, one of which is a slave caste, help build a foundation to bring in Ms. Marvel without a lot of extra time devoted to explaining that set up. Finally, having a crashed alien ship with technology centuries ahead of Earth would explain some of the ultra-tech SHIELD is showing, like the droid that was repairing/altering Coulson's brain.
 
2014-02-02 06:35:34 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Here's my theory how Season 1 of AoS is going to end:


I kinda like it.
 
2014-02-03 03:08:32 AM  

Trocadero: You can safely skip the first two Count Vertigo episodes, and the last Huntress episode. Watch the last four episodes of season one, the two Barry Allen episodes, and the Solomon Grundy episode twice.


And call us in the morning.

It's worth watching even the less-than-stellar episodes, which I can't say for Agents of SHIELD. Almost every name in the show is a reference to some obscure DC character, so you could pass the time on the bad episodes just checking Wiki out on the character names.  It's a very slow buildup of the world and the characters, but I appreciate the effort.
 
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