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(Sun Sentinel)   As if you needed another reason not to visit the most insane state in the country, the African Giant Snail has now taken room, devastating crops, poisoning humans, and attacking stucco   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 73
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2014-02-01 01:31:27 PM
How do they taste with drawn butter?
 
2014-02-01 01:31:54 PM
Black people problems? Ehhh, whatever
 
2014-02-01 01:32:00 PM
To make things worse, it rarely gets cold enough in the winter for the gorillas to freeze to death.
 
2014-02-01 01:33:29 PM
if they go after stucco then Florida's architecture is doomed.
 
2014-02-01 01:34:15 PM
Did you mean root?
 
2014-02-01 01:34:19 PM
Do they eat Kudzu?
 
2014-02-01 01:35:54 PM
This African Giant Snail will kill us all!
 
2014-02-01 01:39:29 PM

Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?


Poisonousy?
 
2014-02-01 01:40:17 PM

Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?


It's my understanding that they're actually pretty toxic, and inedible. Just give the older kids a .22 air rifle and give them a buck for every one they shoot. Show them how to find these snails and let them go to town.
 
2014-02-01 01:48:09 PM
ilarge.listal.com

Can you get stucco? Oh boy, can you get stucco.
 
2014-02-01 01:49:21 PM
unimpressed
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2014-02-01 01:53:00 PM

Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?


Like rat lungworms.

/deadly in humans
 
2014-02-01 01:54:49 PM
I think the solution is quite obvious.  We have to out compete them for stucco.  Lesbians.  It's time for you to stop licking carpet and start licking exterior walls instead.
 
2014-02-01 01:54:53 PM
I'm starting to draw a conclusion based on the fact that horrible invasive things either come from Africa or Asia.
 
2014-02-01 01:55:29 PM
WTH is "taken room"?
 
2014-02-01 01:56:01 PM

Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?


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2014-02-01 01:57:05 PM

Vector R: I'm starting to draw a conclusion based on the fact that horrible invasive things either come from Africa or Asia.


Yeah, it seems like it's always the same few continents, South America, Africa, Australia, Asia, Europe.
 
2014-02-01 01:57:38 PM

Deathfrogg: Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?

It's my understanding that they're actually pretty toxic, and inedible. Just give the older kids a .22 air rifle and give them a buck for every one they shoot. Show them how to find these snails and let them go to town.


They're hermaphroditic and self-fertilizing. They lay as many as 200 eggs at a go, of which 90% hatch. They lay eggs 5-6 times per year. They live to be 10 years old, and they bury themselves during the day. 

You'd need an army of kids. And while having hordes of teenagers running around at night armed with rifles and shooting at things does sound like the sort of stupidity Florida would be in for, even they might balk at the probable casualty:snail ratio.
 
2014-02-01 01:58:38 PM
Calling  MaudlinMutantMollusk.
 
2014-02-01 01:59:36 PM

Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?


Trick question.  Butter is disgusting.
 
2014-02-01 02:01:18 PM
anilol.com
 
2014-02-01 02:01:32 PM
At 8 inches?  It's too bad they're inedible.
 
2014-02-01 02:01:34 PM
If it crawls, swims or flies, the Chinese have a recipe for it
 
2014-02-01 02:02:09 PM
 
2014-02-01 02:03:05 PM

whistleridge: Deathfrogg: Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?

It's my understanding that they're actually pretty toxic, and inedible. Just give the older kids a .22 air rifle and give them a buck for every one they shoot. Show them how to find these snails and let them go to town.

They're hermaphroditic and self-fertilizing. They lay as many as 200 eggs at a go, of which 90% hatch. They lay eggs 5-6 times per year. They live to be 10 years old, and they bury themselves during the day. 

You'd need an army of kids. And while having hordes of teenagers running around at night armed with rifles and shooting at things does sound like the sort of stupidity Florida would be in for, even they might balk at the probable casualty:snail ratio.


HEY! we don't need any of that rational thinking here on fark.  I don't know what you think this is, but we don't take kindly to that around here.
 
2014-02-01 02:07:24 PM
I bet the sound the shell makes when getting pulverized under a large mallet or car tire is really crunchy-gooey-satisfying.
 
2014-02-01 02:08:53 PM
They're a major source of protein in Africa, and they're delicious. If you like escargot, think of escargot STEAKS.

And the Rat Lungworm thing is total BS designed to scare and motivate people. There's ONE case in the literature: a drunk Australian who ate two raw slugs.
 
2014-02-01 02:12:48 PM
Oblio13: They're a major source of protein in Africa, and they're delicious. If you like escargot, think of escargot STEAKS.

There are 3 varieties of African giant land snail.  The western is edible.  This invading is the eastern Nigerian and is apparently quite toxic.
 
2014-02-01 02:12:56 PM

Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?


I prefer oysters.
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2014-02-01 02:13:13 PM

Kahabut: whistleridge: Deathfrogg: Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?

It's my understanding that they're actually pretty toxic, and inedible. Just give the older kids a .22 air rifle and give them a buck for every one they shoot. Show them how to find these snails and let them go to town.

They're hermaphroditic and self-fertilizing. They lay as many as 200 eggs at a go, of which 90% hatch. They lay eggs 5-6 times per year. They live to be 10 years old, and they bury themselves during the day. 

You'd need an army of kids. And while having hordes of teenagers running around at night armed with rifles and shooting at things does sound like the sort of stupidity Florida would be in for, even they might balk at the probable casualty:snail ratio.

HEY! we don't need any of that rational thinking here on fark.  I don't know what you think this is, but we don't take kindly to that around here.


You're right. I apologize.

What I meant to say was:

".22s my ass! Those pussy guns won't stop a charging snail! We need to give them AR-15s and .50 Desert Eagles with hollow point rounds! They really should have grenade launchers too, but that libtard 0bummer outlawed them. He'll pay, too, when we lose our FREEDOM to these INVADERS!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!"
 
2014-02-01 02:15:49 PM

Oblio13: They're a major source of protein in Africa, and they're delicious. If you like escargot, think of escargot STEAKS.

And the Rat Lungworm thing is total BS designed to scare and motivate people. There's ONE case in the literature: a drunk Australian who ate two raw slugs.


This sounds like a jorb for capitalism.
 
2014-02-01 02:15:53 PM
Originally from East Africa, mainly Nigeria

www.worldatlas.com
Ummm...
 
2014-02-01 02:16:19 PM

Oblio13: They're a major source of protein in Africa, and they're delicious. If you like escargot, think of escargot STEAKS.


Here's a review, with video of prep.

In fact I'll go on record saying that I'm prepared to eat a McDonald's hashbrown thingy if Abi's sauce is to hand, but the snail's foot adds a textural matrix somewhere between an undercooked artichoke heart and the cartilage from a premiership footballer's knee - with just a tad more disquieting crunch.


/Nope.
 
2014-02-01 02:19:56 PM
Article doesn't mention the species, simply calling the "giant African land snail"; Wikipedia lists three different species with that monike, all of which are listed as edible.
 
2014-02-01 02:21:10 PM
First thing I thought of...

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Les Escargots (1965, NSFWish)
 
2014-02-01 02:21:55 PM
I'd love it if they were edible. I gather helix aspersa by me several times a year and make some rather tasty dishes with them. Too bad so many people get freaked out by it.

/Don't eat them until they have a chance to flush out their systems and then be starved. Close to two weeks in quarantine, feeding them kitchen scraps. Starve for three days and then enjoy.
 
2014-02-01 02:24:17 PM

Mister Peejay: Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?

Trick question.  Butter is disgusting.


Oh no you di'int..
 
2014-02-01 02:24:37 PM

iron de havilland: Oblio13: They're a major source of protein in Africa, and they're delicious. If you like escargot, think of escargot STEAKS.

Here's a review, with video of prep.

In fact I'll go on record saying that I'm prepared to eat a McDonald's hashbrown thingy if Abi's sauce is to hand, but the snail's foot adds a textural matrix somewhere between an undercooked artichoke heart and the cartilage from a premiership footballer's knee - with just a tad more disquieting crunch.

/Nope.


On the flip side:

"Snail pie is much more nutritious than a beef pie, she says. Ukpong Udofia, of the Department of Home Economics at the University of Uyo (Nigeria) and her research team baked pies of both varieties [beef and snail] and asked young mothers and their children to try the tasty meal. Most of them preferred the taste and texture of the pies baked with the snail Archachatina marginata to those made with beef. The kids and their mothers judged the snail pies to have a better appearance, texture, and flavor."
 
2014-02-01 02:25:53 PM

berylman: Oblio13: They're a major source of protein in Africa, and they're delicious. If you like escargot, think of escargot STEAKS.

There are 3 varieties of African giant land snail.  The western is edible.  This invading is the eastern Nigerian and is apparently quite toxic.


There are no toxic land snails, although some are not tasty. The ones in Florida are Achatina  fulica, and they are delicious. France even imports them as a substitute for Helix asperse, the traditional escargot snail. Try them, you'll like them.
 
2014-02-01 02:29:59 PM
I live in North Florida, and whenever I read about "invasive species," I'm reminded of the line in the "Missouri Breaks" Nicholson/Brando movie:  "The closer we get to Canada, the more things there are that'll eat yer horses."

Non-native snails, snakes etc. from S. Florida tend to become the "consumed," rather than the "consume-ee" up here, if they don't freeze to death, first.  Ergo, (Ergot?) I don't lose sleep over these "invasions."
 
2014-02-01 02:32:16 PM
FTA: "That's because the exotic mollusk carries a parasite in its mucus that can transmit a rare form of meningitis to those humans who touch it.
It works like this: Rats afflicted with rat lungworm can leave larval traces of the parasite that causes the disease in their feces. The giant African land snail, in yet another manifestation of its charm, eats those feces. The larvae become adults in the snail and emerge in the mucus upon which the snail "swims" on its belly.
The meningitis, which in humans causes swelling of the brain's lining, has no cure. The upside: It's rarely fatal.
The snail-detecting dogs are trained to avoid contact with their prey, and simply to alert to their presence.
A 4-year-old German shepherd that lived in an infested neighborhood in Kendall did not have that advantage. The snails are suspected of infecting the dog, which went deaf and blind after contracting meningitis and eventually had to be put down."


And several of you want to eat that?
 
2014-02-01 02:36:04 PM

whistleridge: Kahabut: whistleridge: Deathfrogg: Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?

It's my understanding that they're actually pretty toxic, and inedible. Just give the older kids a .22 air rifle and give them a buck for every one they shoot. Show them how to find these snails and let them go to town.

They're hermaphroditic and self-fertilizing. They lay as many as 200 eggs at a go, of which 90% hatch. They lay eggs 5-6 times per year. They live to be 10 years old, and they bury themselves during the day. 

You'd need an army of kids. And while having hordes of teenagers running around at night armed with rifles and shooting at things does sound like the sort of stupidity Florida would be in for, even they might balk at the probable casualty:snail ratio.

HEY! we don't need any of that rational thinking here on fark.  I don't know what you think this is, but we don't take kindly to that around here.

You're right. I apologize.

What I meant to say was:

".22s my ass! Those pussy guns won't stop a charging snail! We need to give them AR-15s and .50 Desert Eagles with hollow point rounds! They really should have grenade launchers too, but that libtard 0bummer outlawed them. He'll pay, too, when we lose our FREEDOM to these INVADERS!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!"


That's better.

'MERICA!!!!!
 
2014-02-01 02:38:40 PM
These snails are such a huge threat that the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture is training two (2) Labrador retrievers to help. Burmese pythons wait impatiently for lunch to be served.
 
2014-02-01 02:41:23 PM
Suddenly I feel much less freaked out about the two mice I can hear trying to claw/chew their way out of my apartment wall.
 
2014-02-01 02:41:55 PM

ErinPac: FTA: "That's because the exotic mollusk carries a parasite in its mucus that can transmit a rare form of meningitis to those humans who touch it.
It works like this: Rats afflicted with rat lungworm can leave larval traces of the parasite that causes the disease in their feces. The giant African land snail, in yet another manifestation of its charm, eats those feces. The larvae become adults in the snail and emerge in the mucus upon which the snail "swims" on its belly.
The meningitis, which in humans causes swelling of the brain's lining, has no cure. The upside: It's rarely fatal.
The snail-detecting dogs are trained to avoid contact with their prey, and simply to alert to their presence.
A 4-year-old German shepherd that lived in an infested neighborhood in Kendall did not have that advantage. The snails are suspected of infecting the dog, which went deaf and blind after contracting meningitis and eventually had to be put down."

And several of you want to eat that?


Snails are indeed capable of harboring Angiostrongylus cantonensis, "Rat Lungworm". Transmission to humans is extremely unlikely, and if it does occur, medical treatment in usually not required. In very rare cases, it may cause a form of meningitis. Warnings about Rat Lungworm are repeated in almost all the literature, but I can only find one recorded incident - an Australian man who on a dare ate two live slugs at a party. In any case, cooking kills the parasite. Don't eat raw snails.

Like many animals and foods, snails can also harbor salmonella bacteria. Wash your hands after handling them.

Don't be afraid of escargot. You're far more likely to get sick from a hamburger.
 
2014-02-01 02:44:53 PM

whistleridge: Deathfrogg: Molavian: How do they taste with drawn butter?

It's my understanding that they're actually pretty toxic, and inedible. Just give the older kids a .22 air rifle and give them a buck for every one they shoot. Show them how to find these snails and let them go to town.

They're hermaphroditic and self-fertilizing. They lay as many as 200 eggs at a go, of which 90% hatch. They lay eggs 5-6 times per year. They live to be 10 years old, and they bury themselves during the day.
You'd need an army of kids. And while having hordes of teenagers running around at night armed with rifles and shooting at things does sound like the sort of stupidity Florida would be in for, even they might balk at the probable casualty:snail ratio.


I dunno, seems to me the "friendly fire" issue would resolve itself after a couple of years. The most capable hunters would survive, and the ones that don't, probably wouldn't in any case.
 
2014-02-01 02:46:27 PM
 
2014-02-01 02:48:32 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: You can eat them http://wlrn.org/post/how-make-stew-giant-african-land-snails


With video http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2009/jul/03/afric a n-land-snails-video
 
2014-02-01 02:51:15 PM
I dug out my recipe from my Africa days. If any of you live in the 'infested' areas of Florida, I envy you and urge you to personally become a biological control:

Place snails to be eaten in a clean container and feed only cornmeal or bran and water for at least 3 days. This will purge their intestinal tracts. (One chef recommends feeding them carrots until their feces turn orange.) Then withhold all food (but not water) for an additional 1-2 days. Clean the container several times per day of mucous and fecal matter. Snails are now ready to be cooked. 

To prepare snails for cooking, soak them in a solution of 50% vinegar and 50% water. The solution is fatal in a few minutes, and they will have exuded most of their slime. Then boil them for 8-15 minutes, changing the water frequently to eliminate all slime. The snails may then be plunged into cold water. Pull them from their shells.

The dark meat of the foot is the edible portion. Viscera, scraps and crushed shells may be fed to poultry.

Simmer the meat 

Prepare garlic butter

Return meat to shells

Seal with butter

Refrigerate.

When ready to serve, put under broiler until butter bubbles

The proper way to eat escargot is to winkle them from the shells with a special fork or pin and placed on toast.
 
2014-02-01 02:51:54 PM

ErinPac: rat lungworm


"Can people get infected with this parasite?

Yes. People can get infected, under unusual circumstances. However, even if infected, most people recover fully without treatment."

"Have cases of this infection occurred in the United States?

Yes. Cases have occurred in Hawaii (and other Pacific Islands). Very few cases have been reported in the continental United States. In 1993, a boy in New Orleans got infected by swallowing a raw snail 'on a dare'."
"Can giant African land snails be infected with this parasite?

Yes. This type of snail, which can grow larger than a person's hand, is just one of many types that can be infected. But snails can be infected only if they have ingested contaminated rat feces. We don't know if any of the giant African land snails in the continental United States are infected."

CDC, 2 November 2010
 
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