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(Fox News)   Blackberry's US market share hits 0%, with their phones now being outsold by two tin cans connected by a piece of string   (foxnews.com) divider line 33
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-02-01 08:55:06 AM
So what you're saying is, I have a rare and valuable collector's item.
 
2014-02-01 09:37:49 AM
And yet my company is about to roll out BB's to a bunch of managers because it is the only mobile email system that is certified by our security group for remotely accessing our Lotus Notes (sigh) email servers.

There is a pilot program to start evaluating Exchange and iPhones. Yay! We're almost in the last decade.
 
2014-02-01 09:43:09 AM

whyaduck: And yet my company is about to roll out BB's to a bunch of managers because it is the only mobile email system that is certified by our security group for remotely accessing our Lotus Notes (sigh) email servers.


Same for some government agencies. They won't touch a smart phone.
 
2014-02-01 10:13:30 AM
Where can I buy this "two tin cans connected by a piece of string" and how long do I have to stand in line?
 
2014-02-01 11:32:25 AM

whyaduck: And yet my company is about to roll out BB's to a bunch of managers because it is the only mobile email system that is certified by our security group for remotely accessing our Lotus Notes (sigh) email servers.

There is a pilot program to start evaluating Exchange and iPhones. Yay! We're almost in the last decade.


Your IT group sucks like a porn star.
 
2014-02-01 11:34:08 AM

shanrick: Where can I buy this "two tin cans connected by a piece of string"


Try Kickstarter.
 
2014-02-01 11:36:18 AM

whyaduck: And yet my company is about to roll out BB's to a bunch of managers because it is the only mobile email system that is certified by our security group for remotely accessing our Lotus Notes (sigh) email servers.

There is a pilot program to start evaluating Exchange and iPhones. Yay! We're almost in the last decade.


Its typically not the security team that gets in the way of supporting new devices.  Messaging teams do everything in their power to avoid switching platforms or supporting new tools because they can't deal with change.  They are the second most annoying people in IT.

/off the top of my head I can think of three products that allow you to manage iOS devices that work with Lotus Notes
//I've implemented two of them
 
2014-02-01 11:47:04 AM
This explains why my company is replacing everyone's BB with an iPhone 5S. Fine by me. That BB touchscreen/physical keyboard combo sucked. Neither was big enough to do anything useful (which is what my ex says about me).
 
2014-02-01 11:57:36 AM
my q10 is the shiat.

seriously
 
2014-02-01 12:19:46 PM

LightningSlow: my q10 is the shiat.

seriously


I thought hard about getting one.  It seems like a very nice phone.  Unfortunately once the smell of death comes it feeds on itself and poof a collapse.
 
2014-02-01 12:25:09 PM

LightningSlow: my q10 is the shiat.

seriously


FTFY
 
2014-02-01 12:45:41 PM
Well, the joke will be on Wall Street once they debut the newest line of pagers.

/Get in while you can!
 
2014-02-01 01:12:39 PM
I always liked my Blackberrys but we had to part ways. Now I carry a Nokia and we finally pulled the plug on the Blackberry server.
 
2014-02-01 01:50:40 PM
Obama has a Blackberry, and because it's the only phone the Secret Service feels is secure enough, they'll have at least one customer for the next 3 years. Oh, and probably the NSA has bought a few so they can figure out how to spy on Obama.
 
2014-02-01 02:07:21 PM

PainInTheASP: Well, the joke will be on Wall Street once they debut the newest line of pagers.

/Get in while you can!


Pagers?

i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-01 02:14:55 PM

Bob The Nob: PainInTheASP: Well, the joke will be on Wall Street once they debut the newest line of pagers.

/Get in while you can!

Pagers?

[i.imgur.com image 300x225]


Yeah, and they're looking to get in to the coffee business as well.
 
2014-02-01 02:18:36 PM

Russ1642: Your IT group sucks like a porn star.


No, it's the security guys. We work with the Navy and while none of the internal email is classified (hopefully), a lot of it does contain info that's not for public distribution. The only other way to access company email from outside of work is for the select few with company-issued laptops and VPN accounts.
 
2014-02-01 02:34:58 PM

whyaduck: Russ1642: Your IT group sucks like a porn star.

No, it's the security guys. We work with the Navy and while none of the internal email is classified (hopefully), a lot of it does contain info that's not for public distribution. The only other way to access company email from outside of work is for the select few with company-issued laptops and VPN accounts.


MobileIron's mobile device management utility just passed FIPS level 1 security and they are working on level 2 now.
 
2014-02-01 02:39:00 PM

whyaduck: And yet my company is about to roll out BB's to a bunch of managers because it is the only mobile email system that is certified by our security group for remotely accessing our Lotus Notes (sigh) email servers.

There is a pilot program to start evaluating Exchange and iPhones. Yay! We're almost in the last decade.


Tell those fools that Traveler is fooking awesome.
 
2014-02-01 02:55:20 PM

whyaduck: Russ1642: Your IT group sucks like a porn star.

No, it's the security guys. We work with the Navy and while none of the internal email is classified (hopefully), a lot of it does contain info that's not for public distribution. The only other way to access company email from outside of work is for the select few with company-issued laptops and VPN accounts.


I've never understood how sending email through an external NOC run by a foreign company is supposed to be more secure than a direct SSL AES 256-bit encrypted connection with the Exchange Server. Adding a layer of complexity generally reduces security than enhances it. The same thing goes for reliability. Blackberry always had this reputation for bulletproof email, but it seems like they are always having outages while ActiveSync on my phone is usually faster at getting messages than Outlook on my laptop.
 
2014-02-01 05:33:56 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: MobileIron's mobile device management utility just passed FIPS level 1 security and they are working on level 2 now.


AirWatch already has FIPS 140-2 compliance.  And they were just acquired by VMware.  Seems like a better bet for an MDM solution.
 
2014-02-01 07:45:39 PM

whyaduck: And yet my company is about to roll out BB's to a bunch of managers because it is the only mobile email system that is certified by our security group for remotely accessing our Lotus Notes (sigh) email servers.

There is a pilot program to start evaluating Exchange and iPhones. Yay! We're almost in the last decade.


We had one client that still used notes up until about 2 years ago.  The decision to use it was not made by IT (us) it was driven by the fact that that was the only email system the president knew and liked.  Very weird.  The president was an internationally known medical (disease) researcher, but couldn't figure out exchange.

We finally moved them to Exchange, much to the relief of everyone else at the firm.
 
2014-02-01 08:21:34 PM

valkore: TheGhostofFarkPast: MobileIron's mobile device management utility just passed FIPS level 1 security and they are working on level 2 now.

AirWatch already has FIPS 140-2 compliance.  And they were just acquired by VMware.  Seems like a better bet for an MDM solution.


until you realize how crappy of a solution Airwatch is and the fact that a lot of the industry is making their apps compliant with Mobileiron's new AppConnect protocols which helps with single sign on and avoids having to deploy more servers to handle your apps traffic.

Airwatch has a few other knocks against it which I would recommend people avoid since there are better MDM solutions out there.
 
2014-02-01 09:52:59 PM
Notes is way more than an email system.
 
2014-02-01 11:17:09 PM

R.A.Danny: Notes is way more than an email system.


15 years ago there was something to that, but that ship has long since sailed.  In 2014, Notes is antiquated crap.
 
2014-02-01 11:20:34 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: whyaduck: Russ1642: Your IT group sucks like a porn star.

No, it's the security guys. We work with the Navy and while none of the internal email is classified (hopefully), a lot of it does contain info that's not for public distribution. The only other way to access company email from outside of work is for the select few with company-issued laptops and VPN accounts.

MobileIron's mobile device management utility just passed FIPS level 1 security and they are working on level 2 now.


MobileIron is what the State of IL uses for BYOD. I appreciated having access to email without everyone knowing I had it, since I wasn't a fancy blackberry employee.
 
2014-02-01 11:48:26 PM

R.A.Danny: Notes is way more than an email system.


So is GroupWise, but that doesn't mean people are still using it.
 
2014-02-02 12:06:05 AM

R.A.Danny: Notes is way more than an email system.


Yes, it does a lot of things, and it sucks at all of them.
 
2014-02-02 09:17:04 AM

whyaduck: And yet my company is about to roll out BB's to a bunch of managers because it is the only mobile email system that is certified by our security group for remotely accessing our Lotus Notes (sigh) email servers.

There is a pilot program to start evaluating Exchange and iPhones. Yay! We're almost in the last decade.


Same with my agency.  They're rolling out Z10s, because apparently the feds are sticking with BB (and we follow them) and we use Lotus Notes.  Everybody either can't figure out how to use them (old BB users) or laughs at them (iPhone and Android users).

I tried to show a couple colleagues how to use them, because I knew some of the gestures from reading reviews.

It's awful.  Forget the shiatty lack of apps.  Forget the possibility that BB won't be around in a couple years to support it.  Judging it solely on basic functionality, it's awful.  The gestures are stupid, the GUI is ugly as shiat, and -- most importantly -- it's slow.  Somebody was babbling about how "It's got an eleventy-core processor and tons of RAM!"  There's a reason for that -- it's such a bloated piece of shiat that it needs all that power to handle things other phones can do on much lower specs.  All I could think was, "Christ, my wife's iPhone 4 is as fast as this."
 
2014-02-02 09:17:47 AM

R.A.Danny: Notes is way more than an email system.


Yes, and AOL is way more than an ISP.
 
2014-02-02 05:01:27 PM

TelemonianAjax: TheGhostofFarkPast: whyaduck: Russ1642: Your IT group sucks like a porn star.

No, it's the security guys. We work with the Navy and while none of the internal email is classified (hopefully), a lot of it does contain info that's not for public distribution. The only other way to access company email from outside of work is for the select few with company-issued laptops and VPN accounts.

MobileIron's mobile device management utility just passed FIPS level 1 security and they are working on level 2 now.

MobileIron is what the State of IL uses for BYOD. I appreciated having access to email without everyone knowing I had it, since I wasn't a fancy blackberry employee.


Have they deployed Web@work to you yet to use with Mobileiron? If not I would put a request in with your IT because Web@work is awesome. It lets you access internal resources with out the need for a VPN solution.
 
2014-02-02 05:02:35 PM

anfrind: R.A.Danny: Notes is way more than an email system.

Yes, it does a lot of things, and it sucks at all of them.


exactly. My friend works for cannon and they still use Notes and he says it is almost down daily. I laugh that a corporation that large isn't on exchange yet, complete joke.
 
2014-02-02 06:30:21 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: TelemonianAjax: TheGhostofFarkPast: whyaduck: Russ1642: Your IT group sucks like a porn star.

No, it's the security guys. We work with the Navy and while none of the internal email is classified (hopefully), a lot of it does contain info that's not for public distribution. The only other way to access company email from outside of work is for the select few with company-issued laptops and VPN accounts.

MobileIron's mobile device management utility just passed FIPS level 1 security and they are working on level 2 now.

MobileIron is what the State of IL uses for BYOD. I appreciated having access to email without everyone knowing I had it, since I wasn't a fancy blackberry employee.

Have they deployed Web@work to you yet to use with Mobileiron? If not I would put a request in with your IT because Web@work is awesome. It lets you access internal resources with out the need for a VPN solution.


I'd love to, but my office decided to forego internal IT, so I'm not there anymore.

given their decision making process, they'll never get it fixed.
 
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