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(Mother Nature Network)   It's a question worth asking: Why do almost all the cold-weather cities have open air stadiums?   (mnn.com ) divider line
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2014-02-01 07:52:41 AM  
We're not scared stiff of a little cold - or say 2 inches of snow.
 
2014-02-01 08:11:01 AM  

urger: We're not scared stiff of a little cold - or say 2 inches of snow.


Well thanks for closing the thread. Get the lights, willya?
 
2014-02-01 08:23:15 AM  
Because  football.
 
2014-02-01 08:42:07 AM  
Because: pussies... that's why
 
2014-02-01 08:56:44 AM  
I have always thought it was because the designers could never figure out how to handle the weight of all that snow on the roof of such a large free span without a catastrophic collapse.
 
2014-02-01 09:00:17 AM  

Dufus: I have always thought it was because the designers could never figure out how to handle the weight of all that snow on the roof of such a large free span without a catastrophic collapse.


That's easy. Three hundred strategically placed fire pits on the roof. Duh.
 
2014-02-01 09:29:04 AM  

Dufus: I have always thought it was because the designers could never figure out how to handle the weight of all that snow on the roof of such a large free span without a catastrophic collapse.


There are two parts you left out: To do so you either need to heat the roof and design it in such a way that it naturally slides off (cost-prohibitive due to op costs) or you need a very strong roof with very big pillars (which cuts down on seating area, which cuts down on profits, which makes it cost-prohibitive).  Either way it's because it costs too much.

That, and it's football, and it becomes very pointless when it's nice outside.
 
2014-02-01 09:39:05 AM  

FriarReb98: heat the roof and design it in such a way that it naturally slides off


What could possibly go wrong?
 
2014-02-01 09:43:20 AM  
"Oakland is a cold weather city while Indianapolis is not. Rather than re-think our methodology, we're just going to push forward. Probably too much thought went into this."
 
2014-02-01 09:43:45 AM  
it's easier to pile on the down coats in winter weather than to stay cool in high heat, humidity and sunshine.

This was my theory. In Green Bay, you don't have to worry much about fans dropping in the heat as you would if UoP Stadium was open-air in Glendale.
 
2014-02-01 10:02:07 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: FriarReb98: heat the roof and design it in such a way that it naturally slides off

What could possibly go wrong?


Had forgotten about that one, though what I was actually thinking of was some sort of gutter system for it to slide off into.
 
2014-02-01 10:04:39 AM  
What you talkin bout, willis?

blog.syracuse.com

Oh yeah, and when the 'cuse is in da house--

assets.sbnation.com

35,000 screaming maniacs- it doesn't get any better than that.
 
2014-02-01 10:06:41 AM  
Football is an outdoor activity.  is there anyone here that hasn't been yelled at for playing football inside the house?

Well there you go.
 
2014-02-01 10:07:02 AM  
Why do so many hot weather cities have open-air baseball stadiums?
 
2014-02-01 10:25:15 AM  
Why do so many medium weather cities have closed air hockey arenas?
 
2014-02-01 10:37:40 AM  
Why do so many Cloud Cities have administrators who wear open-air capes?
media1.break.com
 
2014-02-01 11:06:35 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Football is an outdoor activity.  is there anyone here that hasn't been yelled at for playing football inside the house?

Well there you go.


urger: We're not scared stiff of a little cold - or say 2 inches of snow.

 
2014-02-01 11:17:19 AM  
As this winter is proving, it really doesn't matter how far south your city is in terms of it getting biting cold outside.  Thanks Al Gore.
 
2014-02-01 11:22:04 AM  
Inhabitants of cold-weather cities are angry, bitter people anyway.
What's a little frostbite at the game when you already hate the world and everything in it?
 
2014-02-01 11:22:53 AM  
Because they don't waste energy unnecessarily
 
2014-02-01 11:24:44 AM  
Because some cities have to share their stadium with other teams while sharing in the glorious hometown weather.  Sometimes the open air stadiums are just better than domes, at least according to Seattle.

/Remember the Kingdome?
 
2014-02-01 11:26:36 AM  

www.sidelinepass.com

www.totalprosports.com


i roasted on many a Sunday in Sun Devil Stadium....one thing I don't like about Glendale being a  dome, is that on fall afternoons, Sun Devil's southwestern corner, being open to the street level, would let this beautiful orange afternoon light in.  you don't get that with the new place.

i talked to the photographer that took this picture, the inspiration for the statue outside Glendale, and he said the same thing, about how that beautifully orange light made for great pictures.

(and on that note, thanks, NFL, for your revampd security measures you put in place this year. now, since Glendale is compartmentalized for SECURITY REASONS, you can (a) only see the statue if you have a ticket, meaning the statue is now inside the security ring and then, if you are ticketed for say, Gate A or whatever, you can't get to the proverbial Gate B where the statue is. I couldn't even take my kids to the freaking statue you farksticks.)

 
2014-02-01 11:28:45 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Because  football.


/I find it amusing that Ford Field in Detroit has a dome. All that extra money spent so they can host a Superbowl every 25 years or so. It's not like the Lions will use it in the playoffs in my lifetime.

//Lions fan..... Feels the pain of Cubs fans everywhere
 
2014-02-01 11:36:45 AM  
I loved the Kingdome's massiveness but it would be really hard to go back to a  dome after having so much fun at the Clink.
The view of downtown, Space Needle just adds to the experience.
 
2014-02-01 11:38:53 AM  
Because The Factory of Sadness runs on lake effect snow.

blog.cleveland.com

blog.cleveland.com

a.espncdn.com
 
2014-02-01 11:45:08 AM  
north tougher than south. fact.
 
2014-02-01 11:47:56 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: FriarReb98: heat the roof and design it in such a way that it naturally slides off

What could possibly go wrong?


Sweet babby jebus, that's terrifying.
 
2014-02-01 11:51:04 AM  
Some people just love watching snow for some reason.
 
2014-02-01 11:51:46 AM  

urger: We're not scared stiff of a little cold - or say 2 inches of snow.


Honestly, moving from Florida to Roanoke, VA, I had no idea what I was in for. Everyone told me I "had" to have a 4WD vehicle. I needed a new car anyway so I bought an Xterra. In the three years I've been here, I've turned on the 4WD once, and that was just to feel manly. I should have realized that if the mail trucks can deliver mail without difficulty, I didn't need 4WD.
 
2014-02-01 11:57:54 AM  

DubyaHater: urger: We're not scared stiff of a little cold - or say 2 inches of snow.

Honestly, moving from Florida to Roanoke, VA, I had no idea what I was in for. Everyone told me I "had" to have a 4WD vehicle. I needed a new car anyway so I bought an Xterra. In the three years I've been here, I've turned on the 4WD once, and that was just to feel manly. I should have realized that if the mail trucks can deliver mail without difficulty, I didn't need 4WD.


Here in VA, they still can't handle snow. It sucks.
 
2014-02-01 11:59:47 AM  
Too cheap to run the A/C which you would have to with a roof.  People know they have to wear a coat and that don't cost nothing.
 
2014-02-01 12:25:24 PM  
Simple.  Air conditioning.  If it's cold, put on more clothes.  If it's hot, you'll get arrested for taking off clothes plus the seats get really sticky.  That's why domed stadiums exist.  To keep fumunda cheese off the seats.  However, people from Green Bay like the fumunda cheese, I hear.
 
2014-02-01 12:26:13 PM  
My guess would be that "cold weather cities" corresponds with older, more densely-built cities (Chicago, NY, San Fran, Boston area), where land is more expensive, so that puts a bigger financial constraint on whoever is paying for the stadium.  Atlanta, Indianapolis, etc have a lot of sprawl, so maybe the land is cheaper?

//New Orleans doesn't fit nicely into this model, since IIRC it's pretty dense as well, but it does get all that rain which necessitates a dome.
 
2014-02-01 12:28:40 PM  

harleyquinnical: Because some cities have to share their stadium with other teams while sharing in the glorious hometown weather.  Sometimes the open air stadiums are just better than domes, at least according to Seattle.

/Remember the Kingdome?


The Kingdome was bad for football, worse for baseball, and utterly godawful for concerts. I saw the Clash open for the Who there, and it was the muddiest mix I've ever heard. I took an acoustics class in college (natural science credits for English majors), and we talked about the Kingdome a lot. It was an abomination.
 
2014-02-01 12:29:34 PM  
Rumor has it that when CMGI errr Gillette Stadium was being designed, faced with the decision of having a domed stadium or not, Robert Kraft chose an open air stadium even though he knew that would nix the idea of having a Superb Owl game (never mind that the FoxboroUGH area has no chance of supporting it) because he wanted the weather advantage.

I suppose saving 9 figure$ on construction had something to do with it as well......
 
2014-02-01 12:33:39 PM  
1. They're expensive.
2. See structural issues above.
3. Home-field advantage.

No, it's not because "we're so tough," you nancies that have dozens die every summer when it gets hot out.
 
2014-02-01 01:01:43 PM  

litespeed74: I loved the Kingdome's massiveness but it would be really hard to go back to a  dome after having so much fun at the Clink.
The view of downtown, Space Needle just adds to the experience.


Safeco does a great job of being covered without feeling enclosed. It's also plenty cold with the roof closed in April, which is nice, I guess?
 
2014-02-01 01:08:49 PM  
I'll answer sub boy's question.  The reason that northern football stadiums are not domes is that the designers never considered that anyone would be stupid enough to host a February football game up north.
 
2014-02-01 01:23:24 PM  
Because we don't play baseball in the winter here in Chicago.
 
2014-02-01 01:37:30 PM  
I would much rather play in extreme cold than extreme heat.
 
2014-02-01 01:38:24 PM  
i.imgur.com i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-01 01:39:55 PM  
indoor football sucks
 
2014-02-01 02:05:16 PM  
Because real goddamn men play football in cold weather and snow. End of story.
 
2014-02-01 02:51:16 PM  
Because you're a sissy.
 
2014-02-01 03:07:18 PM  
Is it a cost thing? I have no idea.

Personally I can't imagine the Bears playing indoors, for example. Or the Eagles, or the Patriots, or the Broncos, etc etc. The stadiums embody the city.
 
2014-02-01 03:24:47 PM  
I like watching outdoor football.

/while I'm on my couch or in a bar.
 
2014-02-01 03:34:35 PM  
Reason number 2,159 why I hate the Dallas Cowboys: back in the 80's they used to say that their stadium roof had an opening over the field "so that God can watch his Cowboys play."
 
2014-02-01 03:38:29 PM  

BMulligan: Reason number 2,159 why I hate the Dallas Cowboys: back in the 80's they used to say that their stadium roof had an opening over the field "so that God can watch his Cowboys play."


Texas, man. Bunch of crazy mofos down there. Texas has to exist or we would have to create it.
 
2014-02-01 03:47:25 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: "Oakland is a cold weather city while Indianapolis is not. Rather than re-think our methodology, we're just going to push forward. Probably too much thought went into this."


Somebody's obviously never been to Indiana during the winter.
 
2014-02-01 03:57:32 PM  

wooden_badger: Rumor has it that when CMGI errr Gillette Stadium was being designed, faced with the decision of having a domed stadium or not, Robert Kraft chose an open air stadium even though he knew that would nix the idea of having a Superb Owl game (never mind that the FoxboroUGH area has no chance of supporting it) because he wanted the weather advantage.

I suppose saving 9 figure$ on construction had something to do with it as well......


What Superb owl may look like
images.wikia.com
 
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