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(ESPN FC)   American soccer players increasingly condescended to by European clubs. "If I took two identically skilled players in the same position, one from Chicago and one from Ivory Coast, I guarantee the African will get a spot and the American won't"   (espnfc.com) divider line 64
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2014-01-31 04:54:09 PM  
$15,000/year goes a long way in the Ivory Coast.
 
2014-01-31 07:26:45 PM  
Doesn't it come down to the fact that if you are good at that sort of thing, you might be making far more money in a different sport?

I think I figured out why soccer is so popular as a spectator sport since so many teams fail to "win".  I think it is much like playing the lottery, you can talk for ever about "what if..."
 
2014-01-31 11:08:11 PM  
Ric Romero reporting:

Europeans distrust everything American unless they have a jackboot stepping on their neck.
 
2014-01-31 11:15:38 PM  
maybe if the USA would stop losing to african teams in international competititon....
 
2014-01-31 11:19:22 PM  

proteus_b: maybe if the USA would stop losing to african teams in international competititon....


Good point, we should pay the refs a little more.
 
2014-01-31 11:23:55 PM  
Maybe if the U.S/ cared about soccer it would be different.

/but we don't
 
2014-01-31 11:39:52 PM  
While I would love for Americans to get more opportunities in Europe, I think the unmentioned circumstance in thay comparison is that the Ivory Coast player would be 21 and the American would be around 27. With a shelf life of about 31, the choice is fairly obvious.
 
2014-01-31 11:42:27 PM  
"Increasingly?" Ha.
 
2014-01-31 11:51:45 PM  
Fine.

We'll just have to teach you the hard way in July.
 
2014-01-31 11:52:19 PM  
Well a true professional level athlete in the US stands to make more money in the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL than they would in US professional Soccer. Unless you just loved the game that much why would you bother?
 
2014-02-01 12:11:10 AM  

baorao: While I would love for Americans to get more opportunities in Europe, I think the unmentioned circumstance in thay comparison is that the Ivory Coast player would be 21 and the American would be around 27. With a shelf life of about 31, the choice is fairly obvious.


Which is why in 10-15 years the US will be getting many more players into Europe since MLS is finally being serious about their academies and no longer are relying on the NCAA for cheap talent that end up becoming pros at too old of an age.
 
2014-02-01 12:23:15 AM  

Oldiron_79: Well a true professional level athlete in the US stands to make more money in the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL than they would in US professional Soccer. Unless you just loved the game that much why would you bother?


Read that as NFl/NAMBLA/NHL
 
2014-02-01 12:23:55 AM  

DON.MAC: Doesn't it come down to the fact that if you are good at that sort of thing, you might be making far more money in a different sport?

I think I figured out why soccer is so popular as a spectator sport since so many teams fail to "win".  I think it is much like playing the lottery, you can talk for ever about "what if..."


The top paid soccer players are making $20 million a year - Wayne Rooney, Messi, Ronaldo, Drogba, etc.
 
2014-02-01 12:25:41 AM  
Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.
 
2014-02-01 12:26:29 AM  
Nobody wants to pick the fat kid.
 
2014-02-01 12:34:21 AM  

phalamir: Oldiron_79: Well a true professional level athlete in the US stands to make more money in the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL than they would in US professional Soccer. Unless you just loved the game that much why would you bother?

Read that as NFl/NAMBLA/NHL


You owe me a keyboard
 
2014-02-01 12:36:50 AM  

Gosling: Fine.

We'll just have to teach you the hard way in July.


By maybe making it our of the group stage and getting our asses kicked by the Russians or the Belgians?
 
2014-02-01 12:39:07 AM  

iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.


Good luck with your CTE. In the meanwhile Michael Bradley came back to MLS for $6.5 million US per season over 5 seasons.
 
2014-02-01 12:43:26 AM  

carnifex2005: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Good luck with your CTE. In the meanwhile Michael Bradley came back to MLS for $6.5 million US per season over 5 seasons.


In a world where Paul Gascoigne wastes away, I'll take my chances with a helmet.
 
2014-02-01 12:45:22 AM  
The main problem here is that American players aren't as equally skilled on an individual basis as African ones.  Aside from Dempsey, Bradley, Howard, and to a lesser extent Donovan, they go to Europe and absolutely stink it up.
 
2014-02-01 12:46:49 AM  

carnifex2005: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Good luck with your CTE. In the meanwhile Michael Bradley came back to MLS for $6.5 million US per season over 5 seasons.


Divide that pay for every time the guy touches the ball.
 
2014-02-01 12:49:10 AM  

Oldiron_79: Well a true professional level athlete in the US stands to make more money in the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL than they would in US professional Soccer. Unless you just loved the game that much why would you bother?


The job opportunities are more numerous in soccer. There are 1,696 spots on 53-man NFL rosters and that's it. There are 750 MLB roster spots. There are 690 NHL roster spots. There are 390 NBA roster spots. And in each sport, those are universally recognized as the definitive highest level of competition. in soccer, there's no one single league that's solidly, permanently the best, and so there are a lot more places where you can go find respectable work. There's no 'ha, ha, you're playing in the Netherlands, you suck'. FIFA had to take a census in 2006 to try and figure out how many players and clubs they had floating around.

No, it may not be the big money, but you have a better shot at making decent money.
 
2014-02-01 12:50:46 AM  

DON.MAC: Doesn't it come down to the fact that if you are good at that sort of thing, you might be making far more money in a different sport?


In America, definitely.  But remember, this is about European soccer clubs. You aren't gonna be paid more to play any other sport in Europe if you have the right skills.  In America, you'd get paid more in at least three sports for similar skills. In Ivory Coast, you just hit the lottery if you have those skills.
 
2014-02-01 12:54:34 AM  

Lifeless: carnifex2005: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Good luck with your CTE. In the meanwhile Michael Bradley came back to MLS for $6.5 million US per season over 5 seasons.

In a world where Paul Gascoigne wastes away, I'll take my chances with a helmet.


You can have just as much of a chance of being a drunk in football as you can be in soccer.

iron_city_ap: carnifex2005: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Good luck with your CTE. In the meanwhile Michael Bradley came back to MLS for $6.5 million US per season over 5 seasons.

Divide that pay for every time the guy touches the ball.


A better metric is to divide that pay for every time the guy gets violently hit.
 
2014-02-01 12:57:50 AM  

Gosling: Oldiron_79: Well a true professional level athlete in the US stands to make more money in the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL than they would in US professional Soccer. Unless you just loved the game that much why would you bother?

The job opportunities are more numerous in soccer. There are 1,696 spots on 53-man NFL rosters and that's it. There are 750 MLB roster spots. There are 690 NHL roster spots. There are 390 NBA roster spots. And in each sport, those are universally recognized as the definitive highest level of competition. in soccer, there's no one single league that's solidly, permanently the best, and so there are a lot more places where you can go find respectable work. There's no 'ha, ha, you're playing in the Netherlands, you suck'. FIFA had to take a census in 2006 to try and figure out how many players and clubs they had floating around.

No, it may not be the big money, but you have a better shot at making decent money.


That might be handy if you are bench warmer talent level but if you are TOP tallent level the top pain players in the big 4 are making upwards of 30 mil a year, the best paid guy in MLS is making 4 mil a year.

If I was at that talent level and I planned to play in US it wouldnt be MLS.
 
2014-02-01 01:01:04 AM  
Depends. Is the one from Chicago also black?
 
2014-02-01 01:02:23 AM  

Gosling: Oldiron_79: Well a true professional level athlete in the US stands to make more money in the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL than they would in US professional Soccer. Unless you just loved the game that much why would you bother?

The job opportunities are more numerous in soccer. There are 1,696 spots on 53-man NFL rosters and that's it. There are 750 MLB roster spots. There are 690 NHL roster spots. There are 390 NBA roster spots. And in each sport, those are universally recognized as the definitive highest level of competition. in soccer, there's no one single league that's solidly, permanently the best, and so there are a lot more places where you can go find respectable work. There's no 'ha, ha, you're playing in the Netherlands, you suck'. FIFA had to take a census in 2006 to try and figure out how many players and clubs they had floating around.

No, it may not be the big money, but you have a better shot at making decent money.


Of course, in the NFL, it's mostly only Americans that want those jobs.  MLB, NHL, and NBA are more international in flavor, but MLB is mostly limited to the US, Central and northern South America, and Japan; the NHL is mostly limited to cold-weather powerhouses (US, Canada, Russia, Norway, Sweden, Finland), and the NBA is mostly Americans with limited international appeal, being a tertiary sport in most countries (including America, oddly enough).

Meanwhile, soccer is the #1 sport of 80% of all the countries out there.  Some countries have local sports that are more popular (NFL in the US, Aussie football in Australia) and some oddballs (Cricket in India), but for better than 80% of the population in the world, kids dream of being the next Christiano Ronaldo, or Lionel Messi, or Neymar. Thus, there need to be hundreds of good sides in several countries to accomodate the number of world class players out there.  And because the US thins the herd by being the center of so many different sports worlds, you aren't going to see as many Americans in prime positions in Europe (and woe help us if you land in a bad spot, like Jozy Altidore in Sunderland...)
 
2014-02-01 01:05:45 AM  

IlGreven: Meanwhile, soccer is the #1 sport of 80% of all the countries out there.


And Justin Beiber recorded the top selling album of all time.
 
2014-02-01 01:13:38 AM  

Oldiron_79: Gosling: Oldiron_79: Well a true professional level athlete in the US stands to make more money in the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL than they would in US professional Soccer. Unless you just loved the game that much why would you bother?

The job opportunities are more numerous in soccer. There are 1,696 spots on 53-man NFL rosters and that's it. There are 750 MLB roster spots. There are 690 NHL roster spots. There are 390 NBA roster spots. And in each sport, those are universally recognized as the definitive highest level of competition. in soccer, there's no one single league that's solidly, permanently the best, and so there are a lot more places where you can go find respectable work. There's no 'ha, ha, you're playing in the Netherlands, you suck'. FIFA had to take a census in 2006 to try and figure out how many players and clubs they had floating around.

No, it may not be the big money, but you have a better shot at making decent money.

That might be handy if you are bench warmer talent level but if you are TOP tallent level the top pain players in the big 4 are making upwards of 30 mil a year, the best paid guy in MLS is making 4 mil a year.

If I was at that talent level and I planned to play in US it wouldnt be MLS.


That would be wrong. There are 3 players making more than $5 million a year. Dempsey at $5 million, Defoe at $6 million and Bradley at $6.5 million a year. Those totals will only go up as the league grows (and it is growing pretty fast).
 
2014-02-01 01:18:22 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Gosling: Fine.

We'll just have to teach you the hard way in July.

By maybe making it our of the group stage and getting our asses kicked by the Russians or the Belgians?


We outrank both of them in Elo right now. (I prefer Elo to FIFA's official rankings.) We can take anybody Group H throws at us. (Course, the problem is we're in  Group G, where we're third in Elo.)

Current Elo ratings:

GROUP A: Brazil-2110, Mexico-1784, Croatia-1779, Cameroon-1593
GROUP B: Spain-2082, Netherlands-1979, Chile-1896, Australia-1711
GROUP C: Colombia-1912, Greece-1813, Cote d'Ivoire-1786, Japan-1747
GROUP D: England-1906, Uruguay-1898, Italy-1887, Costa Rica-1700
GROUP E: France-1855, Switzerland-1822, Ecuador-1816, Honduras-1664
GROUP F: Argentina-1994, Bosnia/Herzegovina-1758, Iran-1719, Nigeria-1718
GROUP G: Germany-2060, Portugal-1905, United States-1841, Ghana-1700
GROUP H: Russia-1819, Belgium-1807, South Korea-1683, Algeria-1582

Not saying we'll crush everybody, but we are in with a shout in our group, and Group H will not live to see the quarterfinals. Anyone but Ghana would win Group H.
 
2014-02-01 01:26:29 AM  

Gosling: Ken VeryBigLiar: Gosling: Fine.

We'll just have to teach you the hard way in July.

By maybe making it our of the group stage and getting our asses kicked by the Russians or the Belgians?

We outrank both of them in Elo right now. (I prefer Elo to FIFA's official rankings.) We can take anybody Group H throws at us. (Course, the problem is we're in  Group G, where we're third in Elo.)

Current Elo ratings:

GROUP A: Brazil-2110, Mexico-1784, Croatia-1779, Cameroon-1593
GROUP B: Spain-2082, Netherlands-1979, Chile-1896, Australia-1711
GROUP C: Colombia-1912, Greece-1813, Cote d'Ivoire-1786, Japan-1747
GROUP D: England-1906, Uruguay-1898, Italy-1887, Costa Rica-1700
GROUP E: France-1855, Switzerland-1822, Ecuador-1816, Honduras-1664
GROUP F: Argentina-1994, Bosnia/Herzegovina-1758, Iran-1719, Nigeria-1718
GROUP G: Germany-2060, Portugal-1905, United States-1841, Ghana-1700
GROUP H: Russia-1819, Belgium-1807, South Korea-1683, Algeria-1582

Not saying we'll crush everybody, but we are in with a shout in our group, and Group H will not live to see the quarterfinals. Anyone but Ghana would win Group H.


So if you want to go purely on ratings we don't even beat Portugal.  Granted, they're totally a one man show so it's not a stretch but the gap between the remaining competitors isn't that wide.
 
2014-02-01 01:38:59 AM  
You look at the E through H groups, which is all we need concern ourselves with before the semis, we're the fifth team out of the 16 there. (After that we're probably screwed, but we're playing with house money by then anyway.) It's just that two of the four higher-rated teams are in our group too.

As for Portugal, yeah, that's the thing with them. If you can find a way to neutralize Cristiano Ronaldo, they're hosed. It's like playing Japan in Super Dodge Ball. You KO Fuji, the teammates don't know what else to do.
 
2014-02-01 02:20:26 AM  

whither_apophis: $15,000/year goes a long way in the Ivory Coast.


$15,000 a year isn't that more than a MLS salary
 
2014-02-01 02:22:22 AM  

Lifeless: The main problem here is that American players aren't as equally skilled on an individual basis as African ones.  Aside from Dempsey, Bradley, Howard, and to a lesser extent Donovan, they go to Europe and absolutely stink it up.


The main issue for US players is that European first division teams are full of guys who don't necessarily need the skill of a Bradley or Donovan... basically Geoff Cameron types of guys.  You don't need to be a superstar to play those roles, just consistent, which guys like Beckerman, Zusi, etc are more than good enough for. The problem is whenever a mid-table club hits a bad stretch and changes a manager, the American players seem to be the first ones sent to the bench, regardless of what was actually happening on the field. It's hard not to blame guys like Zusi, Gonzalez, etc for taking advantage of the newly-available higher salaries in MLS rather than risk riding the pine in England.
 
2014-02-01 02:28:48 AM  

falcon176: whither_apophis: $15,000/year goes a long way in the Ivory Coast.

$15,000 a year isn't that more than a MLS salary


in the old, sad days of the league this was true.  Nowadays the bare minimum is about 44k/year for unrated rookies and trialists. With the new CBA coming up, I'd expect the minimum to hit near 6 figures.
 
2014-02-01 02:37:01 AM  

IlGreven: Gosling: Oldiron_79: ....(generally sensible comment)... Some countries have local sports that are more popular (NFL in the US, Aussie football in Australia) and some oddballs (Cricket in India)...


*SPLUTTERS INDIGNANTLY*

India is the financial base of cricket admittedly, but it's a bloody popular sport in England, Australia, South Africa, Pakistan, the Carribean (aka the West Indies), Sri Lanka and New Zealand too. It's a game with no more or less skill than baseball but certainly a lot more subtlety and intrigue. Baseball, lets not forget, essentially evolved out of rounders, which is basically a training drill for cricketers but a lot less interesting than the actual game of cricket.

I emphasise that I'm not talking down baseball here - it is a skillfull sport and I get why crowds love it - but I'm just mentioning to the uninitiated that there is a lot more going on in cricket than might appear to the untrained eye and it's worth investing a bit of time in spectating (hopefully with good commentary) because you might just happen to seriously love it.

It's a fascinating time for the sport with a lot of tight contests and surprising results (Australia's recent demolition of England, New Zealand surprising India) recently and there's never been a better time to take an interest in it.

Here endeth the cricket advertisement.
 
2014-02-01 05:25:40 AM  
Is this a good tread to mention the MLS was rated the 49th best league in the world last year? Behind China, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Costa Rica... They did beat out the Ivory Coast, however
 
2014-02-01 05:27:59 AM  

IlGreven: the NHL is mostly limited to cold-weather powerhouses (US, Canada, Russia, Norway, Sweden, Finland), and the NBA is mostly Americans with limited international appeal, being a tertiary sport in most countries (including America, oddly enough).


Norway sucks at hockey. And if the NBA got it's shiat together about scheduling for an international audience, there is plenty of room to grow.
 
2014-02-01 05:39:08 AM  

Cajnik: Is this a good tread to mention the MLS was rated the 49th best league in the world last year? Behind China, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Costa Rica... They did beat out the Ivory Coast, however


No, because the way they rank those leagues is retarded.

There is simply no way that any rational argument can be made that the league in Ecuador is better than the leage in the Netherlands; or Chile, or Paraguay.

That article may have given me cancer.
 
2014-02-01 07:37:04 AM  

Aussie_As: IlGreven: Gosling: Oldiron_79: ....(generally sensible comment)... Some countries have local sports that are more popular (NFL in the US, Aussie football in Australia) and some oddballs (Cricket in India)...

*SPLUTTERS INDIGNANTLY*

India is the financial base of cricket admittedly, but it's a bloody popular sport in England, Australia, South Africa, Pakistan, the Carribean (aka the West Indies), Sri Lanka and New Zealand too. It's a game with no more or less skill than baseball but certainly a lot more subtlety and intrigue. Baseball, lets not forget, essentially evolved out of rounders, which is basically a training drill for cricketers but a lot less interesting than the actual game of cricket.


Hey, I didn't say cricket wasn't popular in any of those countries...just that soccer is far more popular in most of them (except for India).
 
2014-02-01 08:24:04 AM  
That's an outrage. Just a quick look at the medal counts shows Americans are much better at diving than Africans.
 
2014-02-01 09:09:14 AM  

DON.MAC: Doesn't it come down to the fact that if you are good at that sort of thing, you might be making far more money in a different sport?

I think I figured out why soccer is so popular as a spectator sport since so many teams fail to "win".  I think it is much like playing the lottery, you can talk for ever about "what if..."


Well yeah the best american athletes still play real sports where they can make millions.

And soccer's rules system is insane the way they drop teams down, also if they got rid of ties it would help a lot. I think if they brought back indoor soccer here in the states it would take off, it was the only brand of soccer that was ever fun to play.
 
2014-02-01 09:14:55 AM  

carnifex2005: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Good luck with your CTE. In the meanwhile Michael Bradley came back to MLS for $6.5 million US per season over 5 seasons.


Soccer players suffer from CTE at a rate several times the average population.
 
2014-02-01 09:28:02 AM  

Cajnik: Is this a good tread to mention the MLS was rated the 49th best league in the world last year? Behind China, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Costa Rica... They did beat out the Ivory Coast, however


IFFHS? Those wackos? Did you check out their club ranking too? Let me give you some highlights from the top 200:

*Viktoria Plzen was ranked 13th. Arsenal and Manchester City tied for 15th.
*Trabzonspor (25th) outranked Manchester United (26th).
*Guangzhou Evergrande (34th) outranked AC Milan (35th).
*Thailand's Buriram United and Azerbaijan's Qarabag FK (T-109) outranked Newcastle United, River Plate and Al-Ahly (T-114 along with Molde of Norway).
*Al-Kuwait SC of Kuwait (T-132) outranked Everton and Liverpool (T-136).
*FC Differdange 03 of farking Luxembourg (T-155) outranked Wigan Athletic (T-165).
 
2014-02-01 09:32:17 AM  

iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.


Just to look at one team, Chelsea, their highest paid player, Eden Hazard, is making about £10 million this year, roughly $16.5 million.  The also have two other players (Torres and Terry) who are making £9 million this year and a few others making over £5 million.  There are 17 players on Chelsea's squad that make more than Seabass's $4 million a year, every starter and all of the major backups.  There's plenty of players at the top level playing for the top teams making way more money than most NFL players will ever get.
 
2014-02-01 09:34:17 AM  

meanmutton: DON.MAC: Doesn't it come down to the fact that if you are good at that sort of thing, you might be making far more money in a different sport?

I think I figured out why soccer is so popular as a spectator sport since so many teams fail to "win".  I think it is much like playing the lottery, you can talk for ever about "what if..."

The top paid soccer players are making $20 million a year - Wayne Rooney, Messi, Ronaldo, Drogba, etc.


While the average MLS player is lucky to get a living wage. Our local Jr. High school has a teacher who makes more money there than he did playing in the MLS.

/he's been out for a few years so that may have changed, I dunno
 
2014-02-01 09:38:09 AM  

meanmutton: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Just to look at one team, Chelsea, their highest paid player, Eden Hazard, is making about £10 million this year, roughly $16.5 million.  The also have two other players (Torres and Terry) who are making £9 million this year and a few others making over £5 million.  There are 17 players on Chelsea's squad that make more than Seabass's $4 million a year, every starter and all of the major backups.  There's plenty of players at the top level playing for the top teams making way more money than most NFL players will ever get.


Aren't there fewer teams with players making that much money? You have 30 teams in the NFL with the minimum salary being almost half a million and you pretty much sit on the bench. Even backup QBs will make in a single year what the mls guy made on his 5 year contract and most never play in games.
 
2014-02-01 09:49:44 AM  

meanmutton: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Just to look at one team, Chelsea, their highest paid player, Eden Hazard, is making about £10 million this year, roughly $16.5 million.  The also have two other players (Torres and Terry) who are making £9 million this year and a few others making over £5 million.  There are 17 players on Chelsea's squad that make more than Seabass's $4 million a year, every starter and all of the major backups.  There's plenty of players at the top level playing for the top teams making way more money than most NFL players will ever get.


It's also apparently an unsustainable business model, except for the elite teams
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/30/sport/football/spanish-cup-boycott -s antander-football/
 
2014-02-01 09:51:49 AM  

steamingpile: meanmutton: iron_city_ap: Seabass makes just under $4m/year for touching the ball maybe 50-60 times/ season. The lowest paid guy (Bonani of the Titans), makes $465k for probably 40-50 touches. Those touches are a single kick.

I'd take the NFL paycheck any day.

Just to look at one team, Chelsea, their highest paid player, Eden Hazard, is making about £10 million this year, roughly $16.5 million.  The also have two other players (Torres and Terry) who are making £9 million this year and a few others making over £5 million.  There are 17 players on Chelsea's squad that make more than Seabass's $4 million a year, every starter and all of the major backups.  There's plenty of players at the top level playing for the top teams making way more money than most NFL players will ever get.

Aren't there fewer teams with players making that much money? You have 30 teams in the NFL with the minimum salary being almost half a million and you pretty much sit on the bench. Even backup QBs will make in a single year what the mls guy made on his 5 year contract and most never play in games.


Even a crappy team with a low salary like West Ham has a half dozen guys making more than $4 million US a year.  All of their starters and main backups are making at least $2 million US a year.

The very best players in the EPL make as much as the best players in the NFL and the crappy, borderline players make way, way more.
 
2014-02-01 10:10:00 AM  

meanmutton: Even a crappy team with a low salary like West Ham has a half dozen guys making more than $4 million US a year. All of their starters and main backups are making at least $2 million US a year.

The very best players in the EPL make as much as the best players in the NFL and the crappy, borderline players make way, way more.


Why limit oneself to the Premier League? Here is a list of the highest-paid players by country of origin from one point in 2011, with everything translated into US dollars. Forget the people making millions. Look at where the 6-figure salaries are coming from. Bristol Rovers. AC Bellinzona (Switzerland). SV Reid (Austria). Manisaspor (Turkey). skoda Xanthi (Greece). MKS Cracovia (Poland). Supersport United (South Africa). FUS de Rabat (Morocco). Persija Jakarta (Indonesia). Becamex Binh Duong (Vietnam).
 
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