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(Talking Points Memo)   Breaking news: apparently Chris Christie can actually fit under a bus   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 330
    More: Amusing, David Wildstein, Port Authority of New York, Nabisco, civil cases, New Jersey General Assembly, George Washington Bridge  
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2014-01-31 04:28:34 PM  
stoppopts.org
 
2014-01-31 04:40:16 PM  
I like this one.

This is a good one.
 
2014-01-31 04:48:50 PM  
We're gonna need a bigger bus.
 
2014-01-31 04:53:18 PM  
That's a good headline, there.
 
2014-01-31 05:00:40 PM  
Best one yet. Go for it.
 
2014-01-31 05:07:01 PM  
www.hogdb.com
 
2014-01-31 05:16:38 PM  
Oh, yes. This one.

+1'd.
 
2014-01-31 05:39:25 PM  
I'd like to see him waddle wiggle his way out of this one.
 
2014-01-31 05:44:06 PM  
He's done. Expect him to resign soon
 
2014-01-31 05:56:35 PM  
Robert Costa reporting that Christie will put a statement out this afternoon 100% denying this.

Christie is the victim of mass conspiracy, or the biggest liar America has seen since Rafael Palmeiro.
 
2014-01-31 06:00:36 PM  

DamnYankees: Christie is the victim of mass conspiracy, or the biggest liar America has seen since Rafael Palmeiro.


That depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.
 
2014-01-31 06:01:59 PM  
Well duh.
 
2014-01-31 06:04:12 PM  
Well, that's the sound of that other shoe dropping. Which at this point is like 15 shoes, by my count.

These are pretty affirmative denials. Any Fark Lawyers with criminal defense experience know if this letter from his lawyer amounts to a waiver of his 5th amendment rights? Because if so, and if he is called back under oath, shiat just got real.
 
2014-01-31 06:05:56 PM  
oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!
 
2014-01-31 06:06:55 PM  
Christie's statement is out - he is denying that he had "prior knowledge" of this stuff. He seems to be tacitly admitting that he knew about it while it was happening.
 
2014-01-31 06:10:10 PM  
You libs are going to feel pretty foolish when Christie releases the results of the traffic study.
 
2014-01-31 06:10:49 PM  

DamnYankees: Christie's statement is out - he is denying that he had "prior knowledge" of this stuff. He seems to be tacitly admitting that he knew about it while it was happening.


He needs to be subpoenaed. No more beating about the bush or defining the narrative in press conferences and written statements; put him under oath.

Let him plead the fifth if he wants. Its his prerogative, but of course that would also be the final nail in his political coffin.
 
2014-01-31 06:12:07 PM  
How much popcorn am I going to need for this thread?
 
2014-01-31 06:13:33 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: You libs are going to feel pretty foolish when Christie releases the results of the traffic study.


I already read the summary:

"When you close 2/3 of the GWB entrance ramps in Fort Lee , NJ, traffic tends to back up into Fort Lee, NJ."

It's quite enlightening.
 
2014-01-31 06:14:48 PM  

fusillade762: How much popcorn am I going to need for this thread?


Probably not much. There never has been more than a tepid desire to white knight Christie on this. The right hates him. I don't expect he will have many defenders rushing into this thread at all.
 
2014-01-31 06:17:20 PM  

gilgigamesh: fusillade762: How much popcorn am I going to need for this thread?

Probably not much. There never has been more than a tepid desire to white knight Christie on this. The right hates him. I don't expect he will have many defenders rushing into this thread at all.


You seriously underestimate the Fark troll brigade.
 
2014-01-31 06:18:40 PM  
What's the prop bet on how many times Fox shows Christie during the Superb Owl? That's a tricky bet.
 
2014-01-31 06:19:17 PM  
Hmmm...I'm a little suspicious here. I know people love a good scandal but this just seems to be off. If they had something good why dump it off right before the weekend? It seems more like posturing. And I hate it when they tease. If you have something then just come out with it. If you have that smoking gun why not just release it? But we will see I guess...
 
2014-01-31 06:19:53 PM  
Throwing him under the bus doesnt mean he fits, subby.
 
2014-01-31 06:20:10 PM  
FTFA "The motivation for the letter, which was sent by Wildstein's attorney, Alan Zegas, appears to have been the Port Authority's recent decision to not pay Wildstein's legal bills. "

Whoops.
 
2014-01-31 06:20:16 PM  

gamepolice: He's done. Expect him to resign soon


He might have civil even criminal law suits against him.  It would be a bad idea to resign because it could prejudice those other possible actions.
 
2014-01-31 06:20:56 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: You libs are going to feel pretty foolish when Christie releases the results of the traffic study.


+1
 
2014-01-31 06:21:15 PM  

quickdraw: FTFA "The motivation for the letter, which was sent by Wildstein's attorney, Alan Zegas, appears to have been the Port Authority's recent decision to not pay Wildstein's legal bills. "

Whoops.


Why whoops? That's plainly the motivation for the letter. I don't see why that's relevant.
 
2014-01-31 06:24:29 PM  

Tellingthem: Hmmm...I'm a little suspicious here. I know people love a good scandal but this just seems to be off. If they had something good why dump it off right before the weekend? It seems more like posturing. And I hate it when they tease. If you have something then just come out with it. If you have that smoking gun why not just release it? But we will see I guess...


You seem confused. The smoking gun was released. That was it. Confirmation that Christie lied at the press conference. And I suspect it got released now because Mr. Wildstein is majorly pissed off and didnt want to wait one more day.
 
2014-01-31 06:25:02 PM  
Letter reads like veiled "Pay for my client's defense or we spill the rest of the beans".

Implied waivers of the 5th Amendment right are a tough sell for a prosecutor.  I don't see a waiver here.  It says Wildstein remained silent in earlier testimony.  It does not go on to admit that he did something in the bridge scandal for which he could be criminally liable.
 
2014-01-31 06:25:08 PM  
Wildstein saying his supporting evidence really farks up Christie in the sense that he can't just deny it without knowing what he has to back it up.
 
2014-01-31 06:26:03 PM  

DamnYankees: quickdraw: FTFA "The motivation for the letter, which was sent by Wildstein's attorney, Alan Zegas, appears to have been the Port Authority's recent decision to not pay Wildstein's legal bills. "

Whoops.

Why whoops? That's plainly the motivation for the letter. I don't see why that's relevant.


I meant that Christie should have used what clout he had left to make sure Wildstein's legal bills were paid. So either he simply doesn't have that kind of clout anymore or he was too stupid to exercise it.
 
2014-01-31 06:26:22 PM  
Who sings next?

www.moremonmouthmusings.net
 
2014-01-31 06:27:33 PM  

quickdraw: DamnYankees: quickdraw: FTFA "The motivation for the letter, which was sent by Wildstein's attorney, Alan Zegas, appears to have been the Port Authority's recent decision to not pay Wildstein's legal bills. "

Whoops.

Why whoops? That's plainly the motivation for the letter. I don't see why that's relevant.

I meant that Christie should have used what clout he had left to make sure Wildstein's legal bills were paid. So either he simply doesn't have that kind of clout anymore or he was too stupid to exercise it.


Shouldn't there be hard and fast rules about which people get legal defense from departments and which don't?
 
2014-01-31 06:28:01 PM  
Because, Benghazi.
 
2014-01-31 06:29:16 PM  

Tellingthem: If you have that smoking gun why not just release it?


Wrangling for immunity.

Next question?
 
2014-01-31 06:30:54 PM  
bus in question

www.theplazanorth.com
 
2014-01-31 06:34:29 PM  

Hollie Maea: Tellingthem: If you have that smoking gun why not just release it?

Wrangling for immunity.

Next question?


I should add that this will likely open up the flood gates as all the other people involved rush to get their deals inked.  It doesn't do you any good to plead the fifth if someone else is going to sing, and no one is going to give you anything for your testimony if they know they can get it from someone else.
 
2014-01-31 06:35:25 PM  

Hollie Maea: Hollie Maea: Tellingthem: If you have that smoking gun why not just release it?

Wrangling for immunity.

Next question?

I should add that this will likely open up the flood gates as all the other people involved rush to get their deals inked.  It doesn't do you any good to plead the fifth if someone else is going to sing, and no one is going to give you anything for your testimony if they know they can get it from someone else.


No one wants to the last person not coming clean.
 
2014-01-31 06:39:05 PM  
someone on CNN made an apt observation that Christie has demonstrated a remarkable lack of curiosity of what was behind the lane closures.  What he hasn`t done or said speaks volumes.

Reminds me when the detective told OJ that his wife died.  He`s response was something like "Oh know, that's terrible" when any innocent person would have asked immediately, "what happened?"
 
2014-01-31 06:42:08 PM  
The bigger they are the harder they fall.
It ain't over till the fat man sings.
A rolling stone gathers no moss.
 
2014-01-31 06:43:24 PM  

mrshowrules: Hollie Maea: Hollie Maea: Tellingthem: If you have that smoking gun why not just release it?

Wrangling for immunity.

Next question?

I should add that this will likely open up the flood gates as all the other people involved rush to get their deals inked.  It doesn't do you any good to plead the fifth if someone else is going to sing, and no one is going to give you anything for your testimony if they know they can get it from someone else.

No one wants to the last person not coming clean.


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"I'm not going to be the only one left without a chair when the music stops."
 
2014-01-31 06:44:34 PM  
I submitted this with a better headline

/someone was going to say it
 
2014-01-31 06:44:52 PM  

mrshowrules: Shouldn't there be hard and fast rules about which people get legal defense from departments and which don't?


No, this is a fairly normal thing. I don't know about government agencies, the general rule is that corporations will pay the legal bills of its officers/employees so long as what the employ's legal expenses are related to acts they took in their professional capacity. So, if you're being sued because you did something which is a normal part of your job, or if your superior ordered you to do it, then you shouldn't be on the hook for the legal bills. It looks to me like that's the situation here; I'm sure Wildstein thinks that he did this on orders from the Governor's office, and therefore he considers these acts to be 'within the scope of his employment', and so he should get his legal bills paid for. But its ultimately a case-by-case thing, so Wildstein will have to argue his case. If he can show Christie knew/approved of this, it helps his argument that he was acting pursuant to orders and should get the bills paid.
 
2014-01-31 06:47:36 PM  

DamnYankees: mrshowrules: Shouldn't there be hard and fast rules about which people get legal defense from departments and which don't?

No, this is a fairly normal thing. I don't know about government agencies, the general rule is that corporations will pay the legal bills of its officers/employees so long as what the employ's legal expenses are related to acts they took in their professional capacity. So, if you're being sued because you did something which is a normal part of your job, or if your superior ordered you to do it, then you shouldn't be on the hook for the legal bills. It looks to me like that's the situation here; I'm sure Wildstein thinks that he did this on orders from the Governor's office, and therefore he considers these acts to be 'within the scope of his employment', and so he should get his legal bills paid for. But its ultimately a case-by-case thing, so Wildstein will have to argue his case. If he can show Christie knew/approved of this, it helps his argument that he was acting pursuant to orders and should get the bills paid.


Makes sense.
 
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2014-01-31 07:00:31 PM  
This comes across to me as the kind of shiat that politicians do not lose their jobs over.  Even governors.

I don't have a hand in the game either way, but if he resigns or is removed from office over the bridge matters, I will be surprised.  People have survived much worse - and in the end, it's up to NJ to decide (is that right? maybe so?).

I feel terrible saying it, but I think I actually might care a little more about Kim and Kanye's wedding.

The Hurricane Sandy matter is more important, IMO.
 
2014-01-31 07:03:20 PM  
It makes no sense.

Why would the Christie admin throw someone under the bus who had dirt like this?

Something is missing from this picture
 
2014-01-31 07:08:19 PM  

cman: Why would the Christie admin throw someone under the bus who had dirt like this?


It's called grasping at straws.  His other options weren't any better.
 
2014-01-31 07:12:42 PM  

Hollie Maea: cman: Why would the Christie admin throw someone under the bus who had dirt like this?

It's called grasping at straws.  His other options weren't any better.


If what he says is true, we could be looking at a Mutually Assured Destruction tactic. Christie admin wouldn't have just booted out someone without making sure they would fall on their sword.
 
2014-01-31 07:13:07 PM  

Hollie Maea: cman: Why would the Christie admin throw someone under the bus who had dirt like this?

It's called grasping at straws.  His other options weren't any better.


This.  Your options start becoming fewer and riskier.  Christie needs to focus on not going to jail at this point.
 
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