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(Daily Kos)   Sorry about keeping your brain-dead wife on life support against her will because of our medieval religious laws -- here's a massive hospital bill to make you feel better   (dailykos.com ) divider line 24
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2014-01-31 04:03:54 PM  
7 votes:
Old and Busted:  Death Panels

New Hotness:  Life Panels
2014-01-31 04:58:13 PM  
4 votes:

ManateeGag: The article said she was pregnant, that's why they didn't take her off life support (or did I read wrong)

What happened to the baby?


It was delivered and got a full ride to Texas A&M.
2014-01-31 06:18:48 PM  
2 votes:

Clever Neologism: He will be on the hook for the bill, guaranteed.


You know what, lets say he is,  I for one can't wait for all the conservatives to start defending the government of texas mandating that he purchase a service neither he nor his wife wanted.  That will be hilarious.
2014-01-31 04:18:09 PM  
2 votes:
Birth 'em all, let God sort 'em out.
2014-01-31 04:02:24 PM  
2 votes:

what_now: Actually, this headline is unfair to medieval medical practitioners.

Sure, they thought that opening a vein cured evil humors and they tended to just pray a lot, but even monks and nuns would give a dying person an herbal concoction to "sleep" while the prayed over them and they died.


Agrees.
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2014-01-31 03:50:05 PM  
2 votes:

Serious Black: This would just be the outrageous cherry on top of an enormously outraging sundae.


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mmmmm. outragelicious.
2014-01-31 03:31:28 PM  
2 votes:

FlashHarry: Serious Black: I'll reserve my outrage until we're sure the husband is getting billed even one lousy penny.

i think there's plenty of outrage to go around even before we know the billing situation.


Sure there is. This would just be the outrageous cherry on top of an enormously outraging sundae.
2014-02-01 01:19:53 PM  
1 vote:

Girion47: washington-babylon: genner: Did the child live? Did he ever have a chance of coming out of this alive?

According to the NPR piece about this, The child is alive and will probably survive if they leave her on support. They did detect some possible deformity with one of the child's legs, but that alone is not enough in texas to allow them to pull the plug. Regardless what the woman wanted or what the husband wants, there is another life in the picture that also has rights. Before all the "Women have the right to abort" folks jump on this, I have to point out that this woman is Brain dead. She has no further rights, and the only rights at stake here are the rights of the still living child in her womb. For all intents and purposes, she (her body, at least) has become a strange artificial/natural womb that can continue to support the child until delivery. The father needs to shut up and man up.

If the fetus can't survive without any outside help then it isn't a viable human, it's still in the parasite category.


Sooooo basically until their mid 30';s.
2014-01-31 07:36:37 PM  
1 vote:

WhoGAS: All this talk makes me wonder...

If ghosts were real, would there be little aborted fetus ghosts wandering around all the time?

Great hordes of little fetuses runnin' around the abortion clinics...


And miscarried fetuses, too.

I hate you forever.
2014-01-31 06:55:45 PM  
1 vote:
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2014-01-31 05:29:18 PM  
1 vote:

TV's Vinnie: Smeggy Smurf: TV's Vinnie: IMO, the hospital should only be paid up until the point where the husband asked to have his wife taken off life support.

Any other charges after that is the hospital's obscene violation of human rights, and if they really want to push it, they'd better bring some KY to the courtroom or the husband's lawyers are going in dry.

You know you're farked when I agree with a left wing farktard

That's MISTER left wing farktard to you, boy.


Ha!  That's your new farky.

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The first round of whiskey is on me
2014-01-31 05:28:51 PM  
1 vote:

parasol: Slam Bradley: brantgoose: Living wills, people.  Living wills.

Not to keep piling it on...but it can't be said enough on this topic.  She had a living will.  It was ignored because she was pregnant and it conflicted with this law:    Sec. 166.049. PREGNANT PATIENTS. A person may not withdraw or withhold life-sustaining treatment under this subchapter from a pregnant patient (the subchapter being the code regarding living wills)

If hospitals want to be dicks about it, under Texas law it might be impossible to have your living will honored if you are pregnant, no matter how particular you are with the directives.

In fact, in 26 states, there are laws that allow for living wills to be ignored if the patient is pregnant.  26!!!!!!

This is why I think women of child-bearing age should add an addendum to their living wills to the effect of "If I am pregnant within ( x ) trimester/week window ( x further directive x )" - and have bio dad sign it as well.

THAT would make for some serious derpitude


NO. >_< Just NO. This is not a good idea.
Her husband, if she has one? Yes.
But bio dad of the kid involved is just NO.
2014-01-31 04:54:01 PM  
1 vote:

TV's Vinnie: IMO, the hospital should only be paid up until the point where the husband asked to have his wife taken off life support.

Any other charges after that is the hospital's obscene violation of human rights, and if they really want to push it, they'd better bring some KY to the courtroom or the husband's lawyers are going in dry.


You know you're farked when I agree with a left wing farktard
2014-01-31 04:42:17 PM  
1 vote:

Bathia_Mapes: genner: Did the child live? Did he ever have a chance of coming out of this alive?

According to another article the fetus was badly deformed from the waist down & had hydrocephalus. Not surprising really since it gestating in the womb of a dead woman being pumped full of chemicals that have nasty effects on fetuses to keep her from rotting. Even if it had been born it probably wouldn't have survived for very long.


FTFY. The fetus, like its mother, was dead, and the fact that her body was kept "alive" just so some assholes could wave their "LOOK HOW PRO-LIFE I AM" dicks around is an absolute atrocity.
2014-01-31 04:41:46 PM  
1 vote:

Bathia_Mapes: According to another article the fetus was badly deformed from the waist down & had hydrocephalus. Not surprising really since it gestating in the womb of a dead woman. Even if it had been born it probably wouldn't have survived for very long.


Also no brain either.
2014-01-31 04:37:36 PM  
1 vote:

genner: Did the child live? Did he ever have a chance of coming out of this alive?


According to another article the fetus was badly deformed from the waist down & had hydrocephalus. Not surprising really since it gestating in the womb of a dead woman. Even if it had been born it probably wouldn't have survived for very long.
2014-01-31 04:25:35 PM  
1 vote:
Did the child live? Did he ever have a chance of coming out of this alive?
2014-01-31 04:22:12 PM  
1 vote:

Satanic_Hamster: Five bucks the hospital will try to use the bill as leverage against the coming lawsuit.


The husband should sue them for taking her off life support, when there was a good chance she could have recovered. When they start screaming bloody murder, say he's just following the law, and refuse to allow them to discuss the case with the media, while he gives twice daily news conferences...
2014-01-31 04:19:07 PM  
1 vote:
Living wills, people.  Living wills.

Defend yourself and your estate against busybodies of the left and right alike, against free entreprising HMOs and government loving social democrats, liberals, socialists, commies, Nazis and statists of the right and left.

The socalled "death panels" are designed to resolve issues raised by just such cases where the will of the decease, their family, their doctors, their HMO, their insurance company and their government do not necessarily find common ground.

Of course, I shouldn't talk. I haven't updated my will in ages. It needs to be done sooner rather than later. But look out for the pitfalls of dying intestate or losing control over your own body and life due to some busybodies of State or Church or simply your own thieving greedy family members. It is so easy to talk yourself into a rationalization of why you deserve it all or why you should override the express wishes of even your loved ones. Padlock the door on that happening.
2014-01-31 04:10:39 PM  
1 vote:
Ah, there's the rub. If people want to believe that a fetus is a child and that a brain dead body is a living soul even without a mind or a working heart, then let them foot the bills.

Yes, universal single payer government medical care--for maggots* and zombies.

Yep. That's the solution. Liberals get universal medical care and child support for unwanted or bastard children and people with no more brain than half a brick has, and conservatives get the nice warm feeling of being righteous and making somebody's life miserable for ever because of one teeny mistake they made somewhere, such as being conceived or taking drugs or being hit by a stretch limousine commandeered by a drunk Hollywood brat and her fair-weather pals.

There's something in this for everybody and the taxpayers pay for all. Not the rich, of course. They'll pay for it out of payroll deductions, not income taxes, just like health insurance, unemployment insurance, and so forth. All paid by the workers, not the owners. Property taxes are for schools. But only because the rich were once the only people sending their children to schools. Or hospitals. Museums, art galleries, parks, libraries, etc.

Because surely abortion is not about government spending. Abortion prevents massive amounts of government spending. It may even prevent wars since you can't fight wars using rich old white men and women as cannon fodder.

*Souls of unborn children. Look it up.
2014-01-31 04:01:36 PM  
1 vote:
Arise, Luke Skywalker Corpse Turducken! Fulfill your destiny.
2014-01-31 03:59:27 PM  
1 vote:
If he gets the bills, he should go to Austin with a gaggle of reporters, drop the bills on Rick Perry's desk while cameras are rolling and if he and his God Squad will pay for this.
2014-01-31 03:35:06 PM  
1 vote:
Actually, this headline is unfair to medieval medical practitioners.

Sure, they thought that opening a vein cured evil humors and they tended to just pray a lot, but even monks and nuns would give a dying person an herbal concoction to "sleep" while the prayed over them and they died.
2014-01-31 03:12:56 PM  
1 vote:

vpb: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you live in Texas, it shouldn't come as any surprise

I would say that they couldn't possible not realize how bad they will look if they tried to bill the family, but it's Texas.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were proud that they were sticking it to the moocher.


I figure they'd bill the insurance and then the insurance would deny the claim.

/"It's that evil Obamcare!!" will show up as well
 
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