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2014-01-31 02:07:31 PM  
They don't look terribly far off from what showed up in the movie, particularly given the technical limitations of the time.
 
2014-01-31 02:11:50 PM  
Tell me of your homeworld, Usul
 
2014-01-31 02:13:16 PM  
The fact that Lynch ran out of money for the last forty minutes and had to do the last scenes with two cameras and some really bad greenscreen probably had something to do with it.
 
2014-01-31 02:13:53 PM  
I'm personally happy the Navigators in the film looked a lot better than the concept art (though both are deformed enough to be a proper Spice baby if you ask me).

Lynch will often make messed up movies just to make messed up movies which is one of the reasons he has such a reputation, but personally I would have loved for the producers of Dune just to have kept writing him checks and otherwise left him alone; as it is Dune's a fascinating movie (albeit not really a great one) but I'm sure Lynch's pure version would have been a really messed up trip.
 
2014-01-31 02:15:06 PM  

theorellior: The fact that Lynch ran out of money for the last forty minutes and had to do the last scenes with two cameras and some really bad greenscreen probably had something to do with it.


Artsy people really don't know much about budgeting, do they?

Disclosure: used to do tech support for an art school that no longer exists due to financial insolvency
 
2014-01-31 02:17:37 PM  
Frank Herbert, he wrote that crap.
 
2014-01-31 02:17:55 PM  
And nobody bring up the SciFi verison of Dune. It was just bad. Lynch's vision was flawed, but it was far more faithful to the feel of the book. Paul Atreides was not an angry blond Ayran. Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Moachim was not an angelic figure. And nobody could act. William Hurt spent his time on-screen faxing it in. I lasted for 40 minutes, then had to turn it off.

/end rant
//stoplikeingwhatidontlike.jpg
 
2014-01-31 02:18:24 PM  
Dune is the only David Lynch movie I haven't seen. I gotta get around to watching it some day.
 
2014-01-31 02:19:10 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Artsy people really don't know much about budgeting, do they?


Well, the studio went out of their way to dick him over, but a little from Column A, a little from Column B.
 
2014-01-31 02:19:13 PM  
Are any of the books worth reading after the first?  I read Dune a couple years ago and couldn't put it down, but I haven't touched any of the other books yet.
 
2014-01-31 02:20:14 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Are any of the books worth reading after the first?  I read Dune a couple years ago and couldn't put it down, but I haven't touched any of the other books yet.



Read all of the ones written by Frank Herbert.
 
2014-01-31 02:21:05 PM  
Hard book to make into a film.
 
2014-01-31 02:21:27 PM  
are you kidding me? its many flaws aside, lynch's dune has some of the best production design ever to appear onscreen.
 
2014-01-31 02:21:31 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Are any of the books worth reading after the first?  I read Dune a couple years ago and couldn't put it down, but I haven't touched any of the other books yet.


I feel Dune's fine as a standalone, but if you want more of the universe it's out there. I tried to read Children of Dune and didn't get into it.
 
2014-01-31 02:22:03 PM  
The man was a visionary.  I mean he had pop stars in diapers a full 10 years before Beiber was even born!!

ca.eonline.com    www.whatsonningbo.com
 
2014-01-31 02:22:54 PM  

olapbill: I mean he had pop stars in diapers a full 10 years before Beiber was even born!!


My female friends certainly enjoyed that particular getup.
 
2014-01-31 02:24:37 PM  

theorellior: William Hurt spent his time on-screen faxing it in.


His precise job description was to make it so they could say "William Hurt in Frank Herbert's Dune" in the marketing.
 
2014-01-31 02:26:10 PM  
What can I say, I enjoyed Lynch's Dune.  I haven't read the books, so there are no pearls to clutch there in terms of book fidelity.  And I recognize that the whole "stream of consciousness" thing is pretty unconventional for film, but I liked it.
 
2014-01-31 02:32:20 PM  

Hollie Maea: What can I say, I enjoyed Lynch's Dune.  I haven't read the books, so there are no pearls to clutch there in terms of book fidelity.  And I recognize that the whole "stream of consciousness" thing is pretty unconventional for film, but I liked it.


I liked them both, the books AND the film. I know, blasphemy, blah blah. Sian Phillips as the Reverend Mother is worth the price of admission.
 
2014-01-31 02:32:36 PM  
I'd love to see a remake with today's technology and NOT done by the SciFi channel and minus the stupid Romeo and Juliet Montague/Capulet style standoff between Imperials and Atreides after the dinner party that for some reason has Irulan attending....

//Children of Dune wasn't too bad at least.
 
2014-01-31 02:33:17 PM  
Anyone know if the laserdisk version has made it to dvd/blueray yet?

The laserdisk version has more of David Lynch's vision, plus the wonderfully narrated storyboards instead of the bald princess.  The additional back story of the story boards would have been too much for theaters...but it was taken, almost verbatum, from the begenning of the book.
 
2014-01-31 02:33:40 PM  
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2014-01-31 02:33:47 PM  

awfulperson: Hollie Maea: What can I say, I enjoyed Lynch's Dune.  I haven't read the books, so there are no pearls to clutch there in terms of book fidelity.  And I recognize that the whole "stream of consciousness" thing is pretty unconventional for film, but I liked it.

I liked them both, the books AND the film. I know, blasphemy, blah blah. Sian Phillips as the Reverend Mother is worth the price of admission.


Why is it blasphemy?

I liked them both as well.
 
2014-01-31 02:33:58 PM  
Subby, Alan Smithee is the one who dropped the ball, duh.
 
2014-01-31 02:35:53 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Are any of the books worth reading after the first?  I read Dune a couple years ago and couldn't put it down, but I haven't touched any of the other books yet.


They become more ambitious and weirder -- both in terms of story and narrative style.  Dune is clearly the best, but the others are worth reading, but by the time you get to Chapterhouse, it's a totally different world in a totally different time.  Any investment you might have had in Paul Atreides becomes irrelvant after the first book.  He literally becomes ancient history.
 
2014-01-31 02:36:32 PM  
Lynch from the very start understood his limitation and played accordingly.

"Director David Lynch's decision to use modules was taken because he found the idea of the Weirding Way unworkable on film, stating he did not want to see "Kung-fu on sand dunes""
 
2014-01-31 02:36:38 PM  

IanMoone: Subby, Alan Smithee is the one who dropped the ball, duh.


Hey, I liked his version better than the theatrical release.
 
2014-01-31 02:38:32 PM  

meat0918: I'd love to see a remake with today's technology and NOT done by the SciFi channel and minus the stupid Romeo and Juliet Montague/Capulet style standoff between Imperials and Atreides after the dinner party that for some reason has Irulan attending....

//Children of Dune wasn't too bad at least.



It would make a great animated series, and then you could spend a few seasons fleshing out the whole novel.  There's just too much stuff going on to make a single feature length film -- and I doubt someone will risk what Peter Jackson did with LotR.
 
2014-01-31 02:39:16 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Are any of the books worth reading after the first?  I read Dune a couple years ago and couldn't put it down, but I haven't touched any of the other books yet.


For the love of God stop after the last Frank Herbert book. It ends on a cliffhanger, but just make up your own ending. Brian Herbert, his hack of a son claims that he, decades after his father's death, found a safe deposit box containing Frank's lost notes for the next book. The shiat Brian and Kevin Anderson crapped out is just retarded.

Dune and the next two books basically tell a complete arc. The 4th picks up thousands of years later. Then the next two pick up even more thousands of years later. But again, do not touch the crap from his son.
 
2014-01-31 02:39:53 PM  

theorellior: William Hurt spent his time on-screen faxing it in.


Let's be honest, though. When has Hurt NOT spent the entire movie looking half-asleep and bored.
 
2014-01-31 02:40:05 PM  
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dat ass
 
2014-01-31 02:40:30 PM  

DarnoKonrad: Well I use Mac/Linux...: Are any of the books worth reading after the first?  I read Dune a couple years ago and couldn't put it down, but I haven't touched any of the other books yet.

They become more ambitious and weirder -- both in terms of story and narrative style.  Dune is clearly the best, but the others are worth reading, but by the time you get to Chapterhouse, it's a totally different world in a totally different time.  Any investment you might have had in Paul Atreides becomes irrelvant after the first book.  He literally becomes ancient history.


Stop there though...as curious as you might be to actually finish the saga...do not, under any circumstances, read the novels written by his son (and Kevin Anderson? IIRC).  Yes, they were based on Frank's notes.  Neither of those two "authors" involved is qualified to change the ribbon on Frank's typwriter...

Consider this a fair warning.

/Normally I don't mind Kevin J. Anderson.  But, in this case...
 
2014-01-31 02:42:15 PM  
And here's what I think should happen:

HBO should buy the rights to Dune and make it into a TV series. 10-12 episodes per season. Each season covers a book.

After three seasons, the show ends, and people pretend that books 4-6 and all that Brian Herbert crap never happened.
 
2014-01-31 02:42:24 PM  

olapbill: The man was a visionary.  I mean he had pop stars in diapers a full 10 years before Beiber was even born!!

[ca.eonline.com image 293x473]    [www.whatsonningbo.com image 306x513]


Sting was going to do that scene nude. Lynch chickened out a day or 2 before. So he had props throw something together really quick.
 
2014-01-31 02:42:56 PM  
Changing the Freman from the most badass knife fighting hand-to-hand killers in the universe to a pack of desert rabble with dangerous megaphones was the only truly unforgivable thing about Lynch's adaptation.
 
2014-01-31 02:43:48 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Lynch from the very start understood his limitation and played accordingly.

"Director David Lynch's decision to use modules was taken because he found the idea of the Weirding Way unworkable on film, stating he did not want to see "Kung-fu on sand dunes""


I do have to admit that SciFi did a better job with the Weirding Way than Lynch did.
 
2014-01-31 02:43:54 PM  

cchinni: Stop there though...as curious as you might be to actually finish the saga...do not, under any circumstances, read the novels written by his son (and Kevin Anderson? IIRC). Yes, they were based on Frank's notes. Neither of those two "authors" involved is qualified to change the ribbon on Frank's typwriter...

Consider this a fair warning.

/Normally I don't mind Kevin J. Anderson. But, in this case...



Read all of Franks and "Sandworms". They said that was the way Frank wanted to end it....

Wish I hadn't read Sandworms
 
2014-01-31 02:46:46 PM  
In the middle of reading God Emperor of Dune right now, so getting a kick, etc.
 
2014-01-31 02:46:52 PM  

cchinni: DarnoKonrad: Well I use Mac/Linux...: Are any of the books worth reading after the first?  I read Dune a couple years ago and couldn't put it down, but I haven't touched any of the other books yet.

They become more ambitious and weirder -- both in terms of story and narrative style.  Dune is clearly the best, but the others are worth reading, but by the time you get to Chapterhouse, it's a totally different world in a totally different time.  Any investment you might have had in Paul Atreides becomes irrelvant after the first book.  He literally becomes ancient history.

Stop there though...as curious as you might be to actually finish the saga...do not, under any circumstances, read the novels written by his son (and Kevin Anderson? IIRC).  Yes, they were based on Frank's notes.  Neither of those two "authors" involved is qualified to change the ribbon on Frank's typwriter...

Consider this a fair warning.

/Normally I don't mind Kevin J. Anderson.  But, in this case...



I read House Atreides and House Harkonnen  from his son. . .and I thought they were ok, but only as fan fiction.  What's really missing is Herbert's style and complexity of thought and narrative.  Totally absent.  If Frank's Dune is the King James Bible, Brian's is VeggieTales.
 
2014-01-31 02:48:31 PM  
Enjoyed the movie, then enjoyed several of the books.

/not going into details, did that in another thread this month.
 
2014-01-31 02:49:10 PM  
PS - the sleeper must awaken.
 
2014-01-31 02:50:44 PM  
 
2014-01-31 02:58:20 PM  

qorkfiend: In the middle of reading God Emperor of Dune right now, so getting a kick, etc.


I was so damn confused reading that the first time. The last part of the next-to-last chapter made everything click into place. Enjoyed it much more on the second read.

/I re-read all the real Dune books every couple of years
//Have read the son's stuff. Not terrible, if you consider it a sort of alternate take of the history and future of the Dune characters
///In no way do I consider them canon
 
2014-01-31 03:00:24 PM  

Sybarite: Changing the Freman from the most badass knife fighting hand-to-hand killers in the universe to a pack of desert rabble with dangerous megaphones was the only truly unforgivable thing about Lynch's adaptation.


I've heard that the weirding modules were something forced on him by the studio bc they wanted some sci fi gadget to compete with lightsabers. I don't know if it is true, but I am inclined to believe so given that it was the only bad thing about the Lynch film.
 
2014-01-31 03:02:26 PM  

qorkfiend: In the middle of reading God Emperor of Dune right now, so getting a kick, etc.


Such an awesome title for such a boring book.
 
2014-01-31 03:02:56 PM  

cchinni: I do have to admit that SciFi did a better job with the Weirding Way than Lynch did.


Well, remember the Syfy deal was twice as long as Lynch's Dune. You can do a lot more with a run time of 4 hours and 52 minutes! That's without commercials or anything. Lynch knew that if he tried to properly do the Weirding Way it would look like bad kung-fu wire work in space. He said as much, but I can't find the exact quote. The Fremen needed some kind of super cool trick to beat the Harkonnens and Sardaukar so there you go.

and dear lord:

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2014-01-31 03:07:01 PM  
I was living in the UK and 13 when David Lynch's Dune came out in theaters. I dragged my poor family to it (including my at-the-time 7 year old brother), and I think they were thoroughly confused.

I loved it. I loved the over-the-top production values, the fact that the Baron was not only fat, but suffered from the most hideous skin condition I'd ever seen. I loved Sting's horrible acting ("The RIGHTEOUS?!"). And man did I love the sand worms. Toto's soundtrack was AWESOME, as were Brian Eno's contributions.

I even got the sticker book. You know - you get the book and then have to shell out all your allowance money to buy the individual packs of stickers to fill the book? For awhile, my friend and I went to WHSmith straight from our bus from school. It got to the point where the girl (hot) who worked the counter grabbed a few packs of stickers for me when she saw us walk in.

We had to return to the US before I was able to finish the sticker book. But I did buy the UK-editions of the all the paperbacks. I got rid of most of them awhile back (stupid) but I still have the UK movie-tie-in edition of the first book, which was COOL when I was 13. I've read through that particular edition at least seven times.
 
2014-01-31 03:08:23 PM  

DarnoKonrad: It would make a great animated series, and then you could spend a few seasons fleshing out the whole novel. There's just too much stuff going on to make a single feature length film -- and I doubt someone will risk what Peter Jackson did with LotR.


What about Peter Jackson being the person to take the risk? With the way he's dragging out The Hobbit, he's obviously desperate for material to turn into movies. The Dune series would give him at least a dozen three hour movies.
 
2014-01-31 03:10:13 PM  

justabitdisturbed: Siskel and Ebert's review of Dune.


"utterly confusing" - dumbass

I followed it just fine despite not reading the book (yet) and being baked.
 
2014-01-31 03:10:54 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: cchinni: Stop there though...as curious as you might be to actually finish the saga...do not, under any circumstances, read the novels written by his son (and Kevin Anderson? IIRC). Yes, they were based on Frank's notes. Neither of those two "authors" involved is qualified to change the ribbon on Frank's typwriter...

Consider this a fair warning.

/Normally I don't mind Kevin J. Anderson. But, in this case...


Read all of Franks and "Sandworms". They said that was the way Frank wanted to end it....

Wish I hadn't read Sandworms


That very well could be the way that Frank wanted to end it.  I can see how all of his "wheels within wheels" could spin to a stop with the machines returning...and the humans ketting their a$$e$ kicked again/being able to deal with them better this time...and Duncan Idaho as a messiah figu...

nevermind, they made that shait up
 
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