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2014-01-31 03:05:20 PM
Politicians use irrational rage to push political agendas.

/I get to be Ric Romero in this thread
 
2014-01-31 03:15:28 PM

cman: Politicians use irrational rage to push political agendas.

/I get to be Ric Romero in this thread


I got no problem with that because you're right.
 
2014-01-31 03:15:41 PM
You can't change the past, so why make a big deal about all the what ifs?
 
2014-01-31 03:16:18 PM
Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.
 
2014-01-31 03:17:53 PM
attempt to rehabilitate Nazism,

That's like letting the Bush family publish history books.
 
2014-01-31 03:18:34 PM
My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.
 
2014-01-31 03:21:19 PM

cman: Politicians use irrational rage to push political agendas.

/I get to be Ric Romero in this thread


Says the man who supports the NSA's encroachment on our rights.
 
2014-01-31 03:21:28 PM
You mess with Russian victim hood at your own risk
 
2014-01-31 03:21:34 PM

fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.


Nah...the winter is what destroyed Hitlers Army...just like Napoleans a century before.

/and lack of oil
 
2014-01-31 03:22:56 PM
Should Leningrad have surrendered?

I'm gonna' have to go with no...

www.ushmm.org

The Nazi's didn't have a history of being good winners.
 
2014-01-31 03:23:39 PM
The American equivalent...  Should Lincoln have let the Confederate states secede to save hundreds of thousands of lives?
 
2014-01-31 03:23:39 PM

Nemo's Brother: cman: Politicians use irrational rage to push political agendas.

/I get to be Ric Romero in this thread

Says the man who supports the NSA's encroachment on our rights.


You said it, you prove it.

I have never ever said anything to support NSA encroachment on our rights
 
2014-01-31 03:25:16 PM
The suffering of the 900,000 along with countless others would have ended sooner had they surrendered.
 
2014-01-31 03:25:33 PM

fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.


Nah.

We would have just used our atomic bombs on Berlin first. Or maybe Frankfurt.
 
2014-01-31 03:27:25 PM

megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.


hehehehe....

I like you. :)
 
2014-01-31 03:28:09 PM

fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.


More precisely, Communism breeds that type of indifference to other people's human life on the part of the leaders, who value their own lives and power much more than their 'comrades.'

Wait, who am I kidding?  That's pretty much every -ism.
 
2014-01-31 03:28:42 PM
and deny the world the most awesome symphony ever?  No siree.
 
2014-01-31 03:28:50 PM
On the plus side, a third of Russian men still drink themselves to death by vodka.

Did I just say that? I didn't say THAT! ;)
 
2014-01-31 03:29:18 PM
Both unavailable for comment:

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upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-31 03:29:49 PM
I have a question:   Should General Washington have surrendered at Valley Forge?

I am taking the yes side in this debate.

Valley Forge was just another example of his feckless and reckless way of waging war. Take the time as a young Lieutenant, when he allowing his Indian allies to torture French officers and men. Very bad show, eh? Not very gentlemanly warfare, whot?

You wouldn't believe how hard it is to find any mention of that incident on the web, at least using "Lieutenant George Washington" as your key words. There must be hundreds of soldiers named for old wooden-choppers.
 
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2014-01-31 03:30:07 PM

megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.


Too late?
 
2014-01-31 03:31:11 PM
Russian judges say no medals for the German team in this year's Olympics
 
2014-01-31 03:31:14 PM
And can you believe the number of hits for "George Washington scandal" that are about that bridge in New Jersey rather than the First President of the United States?
 
2014-01-31 03:32:20 PM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Should Leningrad have surrendered?

I'm gonna' have to go with no...



The Nazi's didn't have a history of being good winners.


People Paris did not resort to canibalism.

cache2.artprintimages.com
 
2014-01-31 03:32:57 PM
World War II is a sacred subject in Russia, where it is known as the Great Patriotic War. It's not a topic that invites examination, skepticism or counterfactuals.

So...just like every single war in the United States?
 
2014-01-31 03:34:44 PM

upload.wikimedia.org


The Man Who Invented the Maxim that it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool

than to open your mouth and prove a fool by losing your upper plate.

 
2014-01-31 03:35:09 PM

megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.


I have it on good authority that he's a lich.
 
2014-01-31 03:35:22 PM

mcreadyblue: fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.

Nah...the winter is what destroyed Hitlers Army...just like Napoleans a century before.

/and lack of oil


Always nice to hear from History channel experts.
 
2014-01-31 03:35:59 PM
I just read a book on the Battle of Stalingrad (I know, different battle) and it's a wonder how either side did anything with their completely insane and megalomaniac leaders.

Great book.

http://www.amazon.com/Stalingrad-Fateful-1942-1943-Antony-Beevor-ebo ok /dp/B002UZDTG0/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1391200539&sr=1-1 &keywords=stalingrad
 
2014-01-31 03:36:45 PM
How many Japanese and American lives would have been spared if we had surrendered to the Germans at Pearl Harbor? The mind races.

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-01-31 03:37:17 PM
I don't think having Russia conquered by the Nazis would have benefited anyone but the Nazis.
 
2014-01-31 03:38:07 PM
I'm sure Army Group North would have preferred a surrender.
 
2014-01-31 03:38:36 PM

megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.


He's still alive?
 
2014-01-31 03:39:48 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.

I have it on good authority that he's a lich.


Don't curr. I would still break a kneecap trying to...

You know what? I'm going to just see myself out thankyouverymuch.
 
2014-01-31 03:41:14 PM
Subby, I see see see (P) what you did there.
 
2014-01-31 03:41:48 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.

He's still alive?


Yes. And looks delicious.
 
2014-01-31 03:42:32 PM
Well we surrendered our privacy to OBL, and people still want to kill Americans.
/How's that
 
2014-01-31 03:43:05 PM

Stone Meadow: On the plus side, a third of Russian men still drink themselves to death by vodka.

Did I just say that? I didn't say THAT! ;)


Come on, don't exaggerate the situation.   It's only a quarter.
 
2014-01-31 03:43:41 PM

Travis_Bickle: mcreadyblue: fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.

Nah...the winter is what destroyed Hitlers Army...just like Napoleans a century before.

/and lack of oil

Always nice to hear from History channel experts.


No it's years of playing Axis & Allies. :-)

Speaking of the History Channel..What's the name of the general that Hitler put in charge of the Russian Front? The one so stupid he was not charged at the Nuremburg Trials because he was thought to have done more for the Allies than the Axis?
 
2014-01-31 03:43:51 PM
Short answer: no
Long answer: nyet
 
2014-01-31 03:44:52 PM
The article does kinda paint the Russian populace as a bunch of whiny b*tches.
 
2014-01-31 03:45:10 PM

megarian: Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.

He's still alive?

Yes. And looks delicious.


You sure that's not his body-double Marilyn Manson?
 
2014-01-31 03:46:43 PM

Travis_Bickle: mcreadyblue: fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.

Nah...the winter is what destroyed Hitlers Army...just like Napoleans a century before.

/and lack of oil

Always nice to hear from History channel experts.


this. Wonder why the Germans were not in Leningrad before winter?
 
2014-01-31 03:47:02 PM

carnifex2005: The American equivalent...  Should Lincoln have let the Confederate states secede to save hundreds of thousands of lives?


Too soon, dude. Too soon.
 
2014-01-31 03:48:35 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.

He's still alive?

Yes. And looks delicious.

You sure that's not his body-double Marilyn Manson?


Reznor is all beefy now.
 
2014-01-31 03:49:17 PM

megarian: Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.

He's still alive?

Yes. And looks delicious.

You sure that's not his body-double Marilyn Manson?

Reznor is all beefy now.


Lol. I can hear you drooling from here.
 
2014-01-31 03:49:41 PM

mcreadyblue: Travis_Bickle: mcreadyblue: fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.

Nah...the winter is what destroyed Hitlers Army...just like Napoleans a century before.

/and lack of oil

Always nice to hear from History channel experts.

No it's years of playing Axis & Allies. :-)

Speaking of the History Channel..What's the name of the general that Hitler put in charge of the Russian Front? The one so stupid he was not charged at the Nuremburg Trials because he was thought to have done more for the Allies than the Axis?


AYRTS?

Are you talking about Franz Halder who Hitler replaced during Stalingrad in 1942? Maybe you're talking about Von Brautschich.

Or maybe you're just talking out of your ass
 
2014-01-31 03:51:24 PM

All2morrowsparTs: Travis_Bickle: mcreadyblue: fickenchucker: My understanding is I'm grateful the Russians consider life to be disposable.  If they didn't sacrifice so much to annoy the Nazis, the result of WWII could have been very different.

Problem is Communism breeds that type of indifference about human life, so we'd better make sure China thinks it something to lose in the long run.  If not, they have a billion more meatbags than we do.

Nah...the winter is what destroyed Hitlers Army...just like Napoleans a century before.

/and lack of oil

Always nice to hear from History channel experts.

this. Wonder why the Germans were not in Leningrad before winter?


Or why they didn't take it in the following two summers?

But hey, this guy played Axis and Allies. That makes him an expert.
 
2014-01-31 03:51:56 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Dr Jack Badofsky: megarian: Holy f*ck I thought Trent Reznor died.

He's still alive?

Yes. And looks delicious.

You sure that's not his body-double Marilyn Manson?

Reznor is all beefy now.

Lol. I can hear you drooling from here.


om nom nom nom
 
2014-01-31 03:52:39 PM
Should Vader have surrendered the Death Star to the rebels to save thousands of lives?

/they had families and friends
 
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