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2014-01-31 09:35:16 AM  
This headline may cause epilepsy.
 
2014-01-31 09:48:45 AM  
 his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.
 
2014-01-31 09:50:32 AM  

Pocket Ninja: This headline may cause epilepsy.


I thought it was just me. I wonder WTF it's supposed to mean?
 
2014-01-31 09:50:39 AM  
Does she also come with frogurt?
 
2014-01-31 09:53:57 AM  
"Officers who knew Danny, and who like him put their lives on the line every day, must now witness Adgebile, a man proud to have chosen to aid the murderer of their friend, singled out for honors and high office by the government of the United States," she wrote to Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, in a Jan. 14 letter. "It is an abomination to now reward Mr. Adgebile as if he had done something wonderful."

You'd think that cops would be happy that the justice system is a little fairer for everyone because of the hard work of this man and others like him. Mumia is no angel, but he deserves the same rights and the same protection as anyone else in this country. I don't care what he's accused of doing, he deserves a competent lawyer and a fair process.
 
2014-01-31 09:54:36 AM  
Sweet blood of dead gods they're still talking about ACORN in the comments.

Also, who would think that you'd hire a civil rights lawyer to head up the civil rights division? Next you'll be telling me a civil litigator gets to represent us in civil suits and prosecutors get appointed to be US Attorneys.
 
2014-01-31 09:56:00 AM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: Sweet blood of dead gods they're still talking about ACORN in the comments.

Also, who would think that you'd hire a civil rights lawyer to head up the civil rights division?


It's ok that he's a civil rights lawyer, the problem is he's good at it.
 
2014-01-31 09:57:04 AM  
 
2014-01-31 09:57:12 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.


There is a lot more to that case than the short summary the article provided.
 
2014-01-31 09:59:20 AM  
FREE MUMIA!*

*With purchase of 32oz Pepsi product.
 
2014-01-31 09:59:31 AM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: Sweet blood of dead gods they're still talking about ACORN in the comments.


My gods are alive to me, dammit!
 
2014-01-31 10:00:53 AM  

monoski: HotWingConspiracy: his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.

There is a lot more to that case than the short summary the article provided.


He got his client out of a death sentence, details be damned.
 
2014-01-31 10:02:52 AM  

Kit Fister: Obama's Reptiloid Master: Sweet blood of dead gods they're still talking about ACORN in the comments.

My gods are alive to me, dammit!


YOU SHALL WEEP AND CURSE THEIR VERY NAMES ON THE DAY WHEN MY PEOPLE'S FLEET ARRIVES TO FIT YOU TO THE YOKE OF REPTILIAN BONDAGE!
 
2014-01-31 10:03:57 AM  

ginandbacon: Pocket Ninja: This headline may cause epilepsy.

I thought it was just me. I wonder WTF it's supposed to mean?


I think it's supposed to be a  play-on-words on the "Free Mumia" movement, meaning  "[You'll get another] Free Mumia Widow" = if this guy gets appointed they're be a lot more widows, because Mumia will kill again, but it just ends up being really farking confusing, because 99% of people will read it as "Free Mumia" Widow, and assume it's about some chick who spends so much time on the Free Mumia movement that she neglects her husband.

Plus, the dude just got the guy's sentence commuted to Life Without Parole.
 
2014-01-31 10:06:46 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: monoski: HotWingConspiracy: his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.

There is a lot more to that case than the short summary the article provided.

He got his client murdering thug good for nothing lowlife scumbag out of a death sentence, details be damned.


/fixed
 
2014-01-31 10:06:53 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.


Yeah, this.  Mumia is guilty as sin, but I don't believe the death penalty is ever appropriate.  This guy did his job.  Mumia is safely caged for the rest of his natural life, good enough for me.
 
2014-01-31 10:07:40 AM  

Mangoose: You had to be a radical to stand up to things like this:  http://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/05/15/phillys-bomb-dropping-guns-b l azing-child-murdering-day/


Did Adegbile have something to do with that? Ctrl+F "Adegbile" produced no results.
 
2014-01-31 10:08:09 AM  
OMG SOMEONE WORKING AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY DEFENDED SOMEONE!@#$@#$eleventy!~

Oh, you mean, the right to a defense is guaranteed by the Constitution?

How much money is copwife getting from 'bagger groups to pursue this 30 year old biatching and moaning.
 
2014-01-31 10:08:21 AM  
We seem to be entering a singularly transcendent cycle in the evolution of right-wing message board comments.

I've seen some things in the last week or so that have been some honest-to-God, next-level sh*t.
 
2014-01-31 10:10:00 AM  
Mumia is guilty as hell, but I fail to see how defending him makes one unqualified for the post he was nominated for.
 
2014-01-31 10:11:04 AM  

theknuckler_33: Mumia is guilty as hell, but I fail to see how defending him makes one unqualified for the post he was nominated for.


I don't care if you defended tim mcveigh, that's one of the fundamental rights we all have in this country, the right to competent counsel.  Even the most despicable scumbags deserve a proper legal defense.
 
2014-01-31 10:11:24 AM  
I thought Mumia being convicted was this gross miscarriage of justice that is known across the world.

I don't know any of details of the case, so if anyone wants to fill me in, I'm all eyeballs.
 
2014-01-31 10:11:52 AM  
Lawyers shouldn't be allowed to defend the accused; it's against the constitution.
 
2014-01-31 10:12:32 AM  
What's next on the list, going after the judge that ruled the verdict? How about the court reporter.
 
2014-01-31 10:13:38 AM  

FilmBELOH20: HotWingConspiracy: monoski: HotWingConspiracy: his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.

There is a lot more to that case than the short summary the article provided.

He got his client murdering thug good for nothing lowlife scumbag out of a death sentence, details be damned.

/fixed


You didn't really change anything.
 
2014-01-31 10:15:38 AM  

organizmx: I thought Mumia being convicted was this gross miscarriage of justice that is known across the world.

I don't know any of details of the case, so if anyone wants to fill me in, I'm all eyeballs.


It is perceived as a miscarriage of justice by some people who really aren't keen on the actual facts of the case, sure. It was a trendy thing for a while for college kids to wear "Free Mumia" shirts. The guy is a scumbag who deserves to rot in prison.
 
2014-01-31 10:17:32 AM  

FilmBELOH20: HotWingConspiracy: monoski: HotWingConspiracy: his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.

There is a lot more to that case than the short summary the article provided.

He got his client murdering thug good for nothing lowlife scumbag out of a death sentence, details be damned.

/fixed


None of that matters for half a shiat. A defense lawyer is supposed to defend his client. Yes, even if he is a scumbag. That's how it works.
 
2014-01-31 10:17:32 AM  

topcon: FREE MUMIA!*

*With purchase of 32oz Pepsi product.


You just got a free Mumia? I got a whole free Tibet with my milk tea.
 
2014-01-31 10:17:46 AM  
Lawayers should only choose clients who are nice and definitely not guilty.
 
2014-01-31 10:19:51 AM  

organizmx: I thought Mumia being convicted was this gross miscarriage of justice that is known across the world.

I don't know any of details of the case, so if anyone wants to fill me in, I'm all eyeballs.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Pennsylvania_v._Mumia_A bu -Jamal
 
2014-01-31 10:21:58 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Lawayers should only choose clients who are nice and definitely not guilty.


Yes. Only the innocent need defense. Once someone has been declared guilty in the court of public opinion, they should be fired from a cannon into the sun. Lawyers can't help you when you're loaded into a cannon.
 
2014-01-31 10:26:13 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Wyalt Derp: Lawayers should only choose clients who are nice and definitely not guilty.

Yes. Only the innocent need defense. Once someone has been declared guilty in the court of public opinion, they should be fired from a cannon into the sun. Lawyers can't help you when you're loaded into a cannon.


He tried to represent himself at trial, and then blamed his lawyer for his conviction. He owned the gun that was found at the scene, the one that matched ballistics. He's guilty as all hell, but the PR he's had has done wonders. But every court that has looked at the trial has upheld the conviction. The death sentence was overturned and a new sentencing hearing was ordered at one point, but I don't know if Pennsylvania is still pursuing it. They guy has had millions of dollars spent on his behalf and there has never been any indication from any reviewing court that the conviction was wrong.
 
2014-01-31 10:26:39 AM  

theknuckler_33: organizmx: I thought Mumia being convicted was this gross miscarriage of justice that is known across the world.

I don't know any of details of the case, so if anyone wants to fill me in, I'm all eyeballs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Pennsylvania_v._Mumia_A bu -Jamal


I meant with pictures. What is this, the dark ages?
 
2014-01-31 10:26:56 AM  
The guy did his job. He provided a legal defense to a man who was entitled to one. Mumia Abu-Jamal is a murdering scumbag, no matter how adored he may be by the leftists. But it is absurd that a defense attorney should be disqualified solely because he defended the indefensible. In our system, everyone is entitled to a good defense, and someone has to do it.

I am perfectly happy to see his legal reasoning, overall worldview, and legal ethics scrutinized as we should for ANY nomination. And certainly, we should explore whether he is "radical" or "outside the mainstream" (whatever that means). Again, as we would for any nominee.

But simply because he defended a murderer? No. That's not how we should be doing things.
 
2014-01-31 10:27:03 AM  
However, he is now facing increased criticism for his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned

So their problem is that he's pro-life?
 
2014-01-31 10:29:21 AM  

Nabb1: The death sentence was overturned and a new sentencing hearing was ordered at one point, but I don't know if Pennsylvania is still pursuing it.


I believe they opted to just drop it and let him keep his life sentence. As you say, well-meaning but deluded supporters of Mumia Abu-Jamal have wasted millions of tax dollars to protect this murderer. And I think they decided that continuing to give him a public forum with another court case would just feed the beast anyway.
 
2014-01-31 10:29:49 AM  

thurstonxhowell: FilmBELOH20: HotWingConspiracy: monoski: HotWingConspiracy: his role in getting convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal's death sentence overturned during his time as a practicing attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Sounds like a good lawyer to me.

There is a lot more to that case than the short summary the article provided.

He got his client murdering thug good for nothing lowlife scumbag out of a death sentence, details be damned.

/fixed

None of that matters for half a shiat. A defense lawyer is supposed to defend his client. Yes, even if he is a scumbag. That's how it works.


I came in to say this. That was exactly his job. People tend to conflate lawyers with the cases they are involved with and it's a fundamental misunderstanding.

Trotting out the cops widow to inflame the passions is just shameful political grandstanding of the worst kind.
 
2014-01-31 10:32:01 AM  

Nabb1: thurstonxhowell: Wyalt Derp: Lawayers should only choose clients who are nice and definitely not guilty.

Yes. Only the innocent need defense. Once someone has been declared guilty in the court of public opinion, they should be fired from a cannon into the sun. Lawyers can't help you when you're loaded into a cannon.

He tried to represent himself at trial, and then blamed his lawyer for his conviction. He owned the gun that was found at the scene, the one that matched ballistics. He's guilty as all hell, but the PR he's had has done wonders. But every court that has looked at the trial has upheld the conviction. The death sentence was overturned and a new sentencing hearing was ordered at one point, but I don't know if Pennsylvania is still pursuing it. They guy has had millions of dollars spent on his behalf and there has never been any indication from any reviewing court that the conviction was wrong.


Every word of that can be true and yet still not be cause to hold it against this lawyer at all.
 
2014-01-31 10:32:02 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: The guy did his job. He provided a legal defense to a man who was entitled to one. Mumia Abu-Jamal is a murdering scumbag, no matter how adored he may be by the leftists. But it is absurd that a defense attorney should be disqualified solely because he defended the indefensible. In our system, everyone is entitled to a good defense, and someone has to do it.

I am perfectly happy to see his legal reasoning, overall worldview, and legal ethics scrutinized as we should for ANY nomination. And certainly, we should explore whether he is "radical" or "outside the mainstream" (whatever that means). Again, as we would for any nominee.

But simply because he defended a murderer? No. That's not how we should be doing things.


Listen, I'm always in favor of waxing poetic about the lawyer being the accused man's only friend against the world, yadda, yadda, yadda, but not every lawyer takes every case out of altruistic notions of justice and fairness. The Mumia case was very high profile and any attorney getting that would be able to make a name for himself, not to mention a lot of people were throwing a lot of money at the man's cause. So, while it may not be fair to dismiss him outright solely on the basis of his representation, it's fair to go into his involvement in it to some degree. And there are plenty of brilliant civil rights attorneys out there who would be a fine pick for that position, so it seems odd to pick a person involved in a lightning rod of controversy. I wouldn't vote for or against him on that basis alone, but I think it's fair game to point out.
 
2014-01-31 10:35:25 AM  
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2014-01-31 10:35:31 AM  

Nabb1: thurstonxhowell: Wyalt Derp: Lawayers should only choose clients who are nice and definitely not guilty.

Yes. Only the innocent need defense. Once someone has been declared guilty in the court of public opinion, they should be fired from a cannon into the sun. Lawyers can't help you when you're loaded into a cannon.

He tried to represent himself at trial, and then blamed his lawyer for his conviction. He owned the gun that was found at the scene, the one that matched ballistics. He's guilty as all hell, but the PR he's had has done wonders. But every court that has looked at the trial has upheld the conviction. The death sentence was overturned and a new sentencing hearing was ordered at one point, but I don't know if Pennsylvania is still pursuing it. They guy has had millions of dollars spent on his behalf and there has never been any indication from any reviewing court that the conviction was wrong.


So you're telling me my freshman year dorm RA led me astray?!? I refuse to accept that. He's the one who turned me on to the amazing healing power of ear candling.
 
2014-01-31 10:36:19 AM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: Sweet blood of dead gods they're still talking about ACORN in the comments.


ACORN was the seed, that watered with Socialism, grew into Obamacare.
 
2014-01-31 10:36:59 AM  

Nabb1: it's fair to go into his involvement in it to some degree


Sure. However, it's absurd to approach that by trotting out the widow of the man Mumia killed.
 
2014-01-31 10:38:00 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: no matter how adored he may be by the leftists


All rightists are racist.
 
2014-01-31 10:39:57 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Nabb1: it's fair to go into his involvement in it to some degree

Sure. However, it's absurd to approach that by trotting out the widow of the man Mumia killed.


She asked to testify. She and a writer wrote a very good book about the case, as a counter-point to all the fan fiction out there. She and her attorney have been very involved in every stage of the proceeding. She has a very deep, first hand knowledge of everything. If you think she's just going to get up there and blubber about her dead husband, I'd bet against it.
 
2014-01-31 10:40:09 AM  

Nabb1: So, while it may not be fair to dismiss him outright solely on the basis of his representation, it's fair to go into his involvement in it to some degree.


Maybe. But it is completely inappropriate to ask the widow of the man he killed to testify against him.

Angry people do not make good laws.
 
2014-01-31 10:40:49 AM  

Nabb1: thurstonxhowell: Wyalt Derp: Lawayers should only choose clients who are nice and definitely not guilty.

Yes. Only the innocent need defense. Once someone has been declared guilty in the court of public opinion, they should be fired from a cannon into the sun. Lawyers can't help you when you're loaded into a cannon.

He tried to represent himself at trial, and then blamed his lawyer for his conviction. He owned the gun that was found at the scene, the one that matched ballistics. He's guilty as all hell, but the PR he's had has done wonders. But every court that has looked at the trial has upheld the conviction. The death sentence was overturned and a new sentencing hearing was ordered at one point, but I don't know if Pennsylvania is still pursuing it. They guy has had millions of dollars spent on his behalf and there has never been any indication from any reviewing court that the conviction was wrong.


I believe that Seth Williams, the Philadelphia DA, has indicated that he would not attempt to have the death sentence reinstated.  It's pretty well academic, anyway, because Pennsylvania has not executed anyone since 1999.

Nabb1: organizmx: I thought Mumia being convicted was this gross miscarriage of justice that is known across the world.

I don't know any of details of the case, so if anyone wants to fill me in, I'm all eyeballs.

It is perceived as a miscarriage of justice by some people who really aren't keen on the actual facts of the case, sure. It was a trendy thing for a while for college kids to wear "Free Mumia" shirts. The guy is a scumbag who deserves to rot in prison.


The "Free Mumia" t-shirts disappeared soon after Abu-Dirtball's death sentence was vacated by a Federal court judge in 2001.  I remember remarking to an acquaintance of mine at the time that Judge Yohn's upholding the conviction, and his vacating the death sentence, was the worst possible result for the "Free Mumia" movement.  So it proved, much to my satisfaction.
 
2014-01-31 10:42:04 AM  

organizmx: theknuckler_33: organizmx: I thought Mumia being convicted was this gross miscarriage of justice that is known across the world.

I don't know any of details of the case, so if anyone wants to fill me in, I'm all eyeballs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Pennsylvania_v._Mumia_A bu -Jamal

I meant with pictures. What is this, the dark ages?


Picture this... his own brother, who was right farking there when the shiat went down, refused to testify in his defense.
 
2014-01-31 10:43:42 AM  

Nabb1: thurstonxhowell: Nabb1: it's fair to go into his involvement in it to some degree

Sure. However, it's absurd to approach that by trotting out the widow of the man Mumia killed.

She asked to testify. She and a writer wrote a very good book about the case, as a counter-point to all the fan fiction out there. She and her attorney have been very involved in every stage of the proceeding. She has a very deep, first hand knowledge of everything. If you think she's just going to get up there and blubber about her dead husband, I'd bet against it.


Her knowledge of the case has no bearing on whether this lawyer is qualified or not.
 
2014-01-31 10:44:31 AM  

Nabb1: thurstonxhowell: Nabb1: it's fair to go into his involvement in it to some degree

Sure. However, it's absurd to approach that by trotting out the widow of the man Mumia killed.

She asked to testify. She and a writer wrote a very good book about the case, as a counter-point to all the fan fiction out there. She and her attorney have been very involved in every stage of the proceeding. She has a very deep, first hand knowledge of everything. If you think she's just going to get up there and blubber about her dead husband, I'd bet against it.


But what does that have to do with his qualifications for the post he's been nominated for? Going up there to basically just say that Mumia is really, REALLY guilty, so the guy that defended him is bad is pretty much blubbering.
 
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