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2014-01-31 12:02:00 AM  
fta In a society increasingly education-based, having millions of boys smashing each other's heads from a very young age on-wearing helmets that were designed for adults and weigh more than helmets designed for children would-just cannot be good.

So Pop Warner knifey spooney?
 
2014-01-31 12:04:05 AM  
Well sure. All those chicken wings can't be good for you.
 
2014-01-31 12:16:03 AM  
More dangerous than, say... POOLS?
 
2014-01-31 12:47:21 AM  
I would think razor blade sundaes, but I do find football terminally dull.
 
2014-01-31 12:48:17 AM  

Notabunny: fta In a society increasingly education-based, having millions of boys smashing each other's heads from a very young age on-wearing helmets that were designed for adults and weigh more than helmets designed for children would-just cannot be good.

So Pop Warner knifey spooney?


I see you've played kniefey spooney before
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2014-01-31 12:49:30 AM  
So just feed 'em ritalin and HFCS, keep them inside in front of the TV, and asssume they'll develop stength and determination and character elsewhere.
 
2014-01-31 12:50:40 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: More dangerous than, say... POOLS?


Or an angry six year old with a .22 pistol?

Or a cyanide popsicle?

Or a pedophile with a hard-on?
 
2014-01-31 12:53:53 AM  
Kids playing football > kids playing with improperly secured handgun.
 
2014-01-31 12:54:29 AM  
And the NFL could stop encouraging little kids to sign up for tackle-good for the league's fan base and equipment sales, bad for little kids - and only promote flag football, which is a lot of fun. Eli and Peyton Manning did not put on pads and helmets until age 13. Neither should anyone else.

Well, using two quarterbacks as your only example sure sold me!
 
2014-01-31 12:54:34 AM  
i2.cdn.turner.com

/great book.
 
2014-01-31 12:54:35 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: So just feed 'em ritalin and HFCS, keep them inside in front of the TV, and asssume they'll develop stength and determination and character elsewhere.


Or, and this is just a crazy idea I had, maybe enroll them in sports that don't require their tiny skulls to be smacked around relentlessly?
 
2014-01-31 12:56:40 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: So just feed 'em ritalin and HFCS, keep them inside in front of the TV, and asssume they'll develop stength and determination and character elsewhere.

Or, and this is just a crazy idea I had, maybe enroll them in sports that don't require their tiny skulls to be smacked around relentlessly?


You sound like a curler
 
2014-01-31 12:57:05 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: So just feed 'em ritalin and HFCS, keep them inside in front of the TV, and asssume they'll develop stength and determination and character elsewhere.

Or, and this is just a crazy idea I had, maybe enroll them in sports that don't require their tiny skulls to be smacked around relentlessly?


Oh please, the Mommy brigades would have problem with those too. Remember, kids used to play out in the woods, unsupervised, with real pocket knives and sometimes  pellet guns. This slope is already quite slippery.
 
2014-01-31 12:57:47 AM  
God people are getting rediculous. 99.9999 percent of kids come out fine after playing football.

It's a violent sport but at children's level risk of serious long term injury is less than when their parents drive them to the game...

The pearl clenching what about the children shiat is getting old..

Football builds leaders, teaches teamwork, confidence, and discipline. More than worth the risk.
 
2014-01-31 01:01:07 AM  
Activities I took part in during my youth that resulted in a (probable or actual) concussion in order of prevalence:

Playing with friends/neighborhood kids (no particular sport)

Soccer
Hockey (all forms - never played organized hockey)
Baseball
Skiing (cross country and downhill)

Activities I took part in during my adulthood that resulted in a (probably or actual) concussion in order of prevalence:

Drinking
Concerts
Reading Fark
Office job

If you live your life and do so outside the confines of your helicopter mother, you're going to get a concussion or a few...they make for some good stories that are missing some vital details but are good stories none the less.  Show me someone who hasn't had a concussion and I'll show you someone who is lacking in life experience.  Concussions are a part of life; I'm not saying they are good but if you let your kids play sports, they're going to eventually get a head injury.  If you don't, they may not get a head injury but they are going to miss out on a lot of the good parts of playing sports.

/Never had a diagnosed concussion
//At least not that I remember
///You can't spell Funcussion without FUN
 
2014-01-31 01:01:21 AM  

Mralterego: God people are getting rediculous. 99.9999 percent of kids come out fine after playing football.

It's a violent sport but at children's level risk of serious long term injury is less than when their parents drive them to the game...

The pearl clenching what about the children shiat is getting old..

Football builds leaders, teaches teamwork, confidence, and discipline. More than worth the risk.


I think football is stupid for other reasons, but for those who wish to play, I agree with your first three sentences.

The last one is an opinion with which I do not agree but let's not argue that one for the sake of the bigger, more important picture.
 
2014-01-31 01:03:14 AM  
Well, I was thinking it was called the Volvo effect, but it's not. What's the term for people driving worse because they feel they're wrapped in safety systems? It's what happens when you play rugby with lots of padding and call it football as well. You can strike the other player with your padded shoulder and not worry about injuring yourself. They're not protective gear like helmets and pads worn by skaters, which are for accidents. You don those shoulder pads intending to shove them into people at speed.
 
2014-01-31 01:03:24 AM  
Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..

blogs.babble.com
"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"
 
2014-01-31 01:04:31 AM  
If kids don't play football, how will they Texas?

Think of the children please.
 
2014-01-31 01:07:20 AM  
Six diagnosed concussions for me, probably four more. Never played a snap.

The peewee league kids probably watch NFL and have been equally inundated with the concussions being worse than 9/11 news (after watching "Jacked Up" and 200hrs of other NFL greatest hits videos). They know.
 
2014-01-31 01:09:10 AM  

WhoGAS: Mralterego:

Don't want to clog up the thread with people quoting other people but a big part of what may save football, especially at the youth level is an emphasis on proper tackling technique and a shift away from the traditional "Put a hat on 'im" school of defensive coaching.  It would be impossible to eliminate the possibility of helmet to helmet hits in football but a shift toward wrapping the runner up with your arms versus just pointing your head toward their head and trying to knock out the ball carrier would make huge strides in terms of letting kids play football and learning how to play the right way.  Obviously there will still be concussions at all levels but hopefully there will be a lot less of them...
As for pro football and pro sports in general it comes down to what a lot of people have been saying for a while now...if you know the risks and are willing to accept the payoff that's why it's pro sports...you're getting paid a bunch of money because you're very good at what you do and you're risking your short and long term health in exchange for the ability to make a bunch of money in a small amount of time compared to your average cube farm job.
 
2014-01-31 01:09:46 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..


"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"


I had a hand me down one of those when I was a whipper snapper. I seem to have turned out fine.
 
2014-01-31 01:11:00 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-31 01:11:19 AM  
But what about headbrick? Is that still okay?
 
2014-01-31 01:12:17 AM  

Oldiron_79: Pointy Tail of Satan: Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..


"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"

I had a hand me down one of those when I was a whipper snapper. I seem to have turned out fine.


I was more the chem lab kind of kid. The sulfur compounds were always the Boss!
 
2014-01-31 01:15:41 AM  

orangehat: WhoGAS: Mralterego: Don't want to clog up the thread with people quoting other people


Dude.  Krav Maga football!!  Yes!

Oh, wait, that's rugby, isn't it?
 
2014-01-31 01:15:46 AM  
Fer shur. One minute they're enjoying the game, next minute they're lying twisted and broken on the pavement six stories below because they were drunk and leaned just a teensy bit too far over the "safety" rail.
 
2014-01-31 01:16:20 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: More dangerous than, say... POOLS?


Or a set of steak knives?
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2014-01-31 01:19:16 AM  

wildcardjack: Well, I was thinking it was called the Volvo effect, but it's not. What's the term for people driving worse because they feel they're wrapped in safety systems?


I'm not sure what the term is but it's a real phenomenon...it's one of the nuances of violence in hockey since the advent of helmets and specifically facemasks led to an increase in players feeling invincible.  It used to be that back in the day players kept their stick down out of either common courtesy or a fear of what would happen if they didn't; now they run around high sticking cats in the face and not thinking twice about it.  Growing up playing hockey we didn't wear helmets and it was generally accepted that you kept your stick low because it was a dick move to high stick someone and that you might have to pay for it if you did...that and if someone got hurt enough to stop playing the game was over and that wasn't for the benefit of anyone.
That being said I also grew up playing sports for coaches who wanted to win the game but were also concerned about never developing a reputation for having soft teams...there was more than one game where the other team would try to goon it up a bit and would find out really fast that we weren't nearly as concerned about the score as they were.
 
2014-01-31 01:22:04 AM  
Mama coulda told you
www.hamous.org
Foosball is the debbil!
 
2014-01-31 01:22:57 AM  
playing fuutball (aka soccer for the non educated world) with loaded guns and having unprotected sex while eating mcdonalds "value meals" is still safe though right?
 
2014-01-31 01:29:52 AM  
Football is dangerous for kids?

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-31 01:30:04 AM  

SamsAxe: playing fuutball (aka soccer for the non educated world) with loaded guns and having unprotected sex while eating mcdonalds "value meals" is still safe though right?


I think I wanna party with this guy!
 
2014-01-31 01:30:16 AM  

RoyHobbs22: AverageAmericanGuy: More dangerous than, say... POOLS?

Or a set of steak knives?


3rd prize is you're fired
 
2014-01-31 01:30:38 AM  
I know it would be prohibitively expensive, but wearing full face motorcycle helmets would probably eliminate the concussions.  I used to play hockey and I was very surprised at how thing one of the newer helmets was.  It had been since 1999 since I've played and this was a few years ago.

I dont' understand why no one is saying "make better helmets."

The technology exists. We can bash him.
 
2014-01-31 01:31:17 AM  
"...Obama now has said twice that if he had a son, he would not let that son play football. What about other people's sons? "

My son doesn't play football, my daughter does. Now I find out it is Obama's fault? I should have known!


lh3.googleusercontent.com

/un-armoured wankerball
//un-armoured non-wankerball
///wankered non-armour ball?
 
2014-01-31 01:33:06 AM  
Could this mean baseball might start coming back? Please? Maybe?

/who am I kidding. We'll all be watching MLS in a few decades
 
2014-01-31 01:33:54 AM  
Thank god I grew up before safety was a thing.

I got my first concussion standing innocently at a concert--and not even a punk rock concert. It was some New Wave glam rock band, and I got hit by a stray shoe flying through the air. When i was 19.

Yesterday, my 3d nephew came in with a big cut over his eye. Turns out he and his buds have been playing a game over in the church parking lot which involves them throwing rocks at each other and he "got in the way" of at least one. This is the same child who has been playing lacrosse, soccer, football, baseball, riding skateboards, motorcycling since he was 3...never been injured in any way. But gets in the way of a thrown rock.

Kids grow up "in spite of" not "because of."
 
2014-01-31 01:34:19 AM  
This "Gregg Easterbrook" guy is a huge vagina. I played "tackle" football from 5th grade to my sophomore year in high school. I thought tackling and hurting other people was fun. This guy obviously didn't make the team when he was a youngling.
 
2014-01-31 01:35:42 AM  
"...Obama now has said twice that if he had a son, he would not let that son play football. What about other people's sons? "

He also said that if he had a son then that son would be just like Trayvon Martin....soooo
 
2014-01-31 01:36:44 AM  

orangehat: wildcardjack: Well, I was thinking it was called the Volvo effect, but it's not. What's the term for people driving worse because they feel they're wrapped in safety systems?

I'm not sure what the term is but it's a real phenomenon...it's one of the nuances of violence in hockey since the advent of helmets and specifically facemasks led to an increase in players feeling invincible.  It used to be that back in the day players kept their stick down out of either common courtesy or a fear of what would happen if they didn't; now they run around high sticking cats in the face and not thinking twice about it.  Growing up playing hockey we didn't wear helmets and it was generally accepted that you kept your stick low because it was a dick move to high stick someone and that you might have to pay for it if you did...that and if someone got hurt enough to stop playing the game was over and that wasn't for the benefit of anyone.


The same thing is true of a lot of martial arts and combat sports where they let people 'go at it' with lots of pads.  At first blush it doesn't make sense.  But after a while one realizes that people are much more inclined to take risks and well as accept repeated damage when they think they are protected.
 
2014-01-31 01:36:52 AM  
Oh, and as an aside...

Getting fat while sitting on the sofa eating more calories than you use is "the most dangerous thing you can let your children enjoy". That and shards o glass pops.
Oh and unprotected sex with intravenous drug users.
Base jumping is probably not so good for your kids either.
And why would I listen to these rocket surgeons. What would they know, one week bacon grease constant low level concussion is bad for you, the next week we're not getting enough of it.
 
2014-01-31 01:37:29 AM  

Oldiron_79: Pointy Tail of Satan: Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..


"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"

I had a hand me down one of those when I was a whipper snapper. I seem to have turned out fine.


What's ironic is I have you farkied in red as 'racist' based on several politics threads
 
2014-01-31 01:38:25 AM  
No way that football is more dangerous than fillipino knife fighting.
 
2014-01-31 01:38:44 AM  
I love football as much as I despise basketball but this is sad.
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2014-01-31 01:40:03 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Thank god I grew up before safety was a thing.

I got my first concussion standing innocently at a concert--and not even a punk rock concert. It was some New Wave glam rock band, and I got hit by a stray shoe flying through the air. When i was 19.

Yesterday, my 3d nephew came in with a big cut over his eye. Turns out he and his buds have been playing a game over in the church parking lot which involves them throwing rocks at each other and he "got in the way" of at least one. This is the same child who has been playing lacrosse, soccer, football, baseball, riding skateboards, motorcycling since he was 3...never been injured in any way. But gets in the way of a thrown rock.

Kids grow up "in spite of" not "because of."


Honestly who throws a shoe?
 
2014-01-31 01:41:55 AM  

Oldiron_79: Gyrfalcon: Thank god I grew up before safety was a thing.

I got my first concussion standing innocently at a concert--and not even a punk rock concert. It was some New Wave glam rock band, and I got hit by a stray shoe flying through the air. When i was 19.

Yesterday, my 3d nephew came in with a big cut over his eye. Turns out he and his buds have been playing a game over in the church parking lot which involves them throwing rocks at each other and he "got in the way" of at least one. This is the same child who has been playing lacrosse, soccer, football, baseball, riding skateboards, motorcycling since he was 3...never been injured in any way. But gets in the way of a thrown rock.

Kids grow up "in spite of" not "because of."

Honestly who throws a shoe?


Iraqis?
 
2014-01-31 01:43:43 AM  

Brainsick: Oldiron_79: Pointy Tail of Satan: Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..


"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"

I had a hand me down one of those when I was a whipper snapper. I seem to have turned out fine.

What's ironic is I have you farkied in red as 'racist' based on several politics threads


And Im a troll that will say shiat to get a reaction I may not even beleive myself. Lighten up Francis.
 
2014-01-31 01:45:33 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: No way that football is more dangerous than fillipino knife fighting.



It's like rattlesnake bites vs sea snake bites.  The latter is more deadly per incident but there are a million incidents of the former.
 
2014-01-31 01:53:32 AM  

syrynxx: teenage mutant ninja rapist: No way that football is more dangerous than fillipino knife fighting.


It's like rattlesnake bites vs sea snake bites.  The latter is more deadly per incident but there are a million incidents of the former.


Not in the philippines it isn't.
 
2014-01-31 01:54:09 AM  

Oldiron_79: And Im a troll that will say shiat to get a reaction I may not even beleive myself. Lighten up Francis.


I have you in bright pink as a militant homo. Dont tell me you also hate the buttsex!
 
2014-01-31 02:03:13 AM  
The rest of the world plays the much less violent version of football, and their populace generally seems less stupid when taken as a whole. Just look at how most of those countries have figured out how to make public healthcare work, while we just make our system even more and more complicated and screwed up. Coincidence?

/That said, I'm still rooting for my Seahawks on Sunday
 
2014-01-31 02:09:19 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-31 02:10:44 AM  
duh.  we knew this 30 years ago.  why do we pretend to care now?
 
2014-01-31 02:11:00 AM  

phrawgh: I love football as much as I despise basketball but this is sad.
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That's farked up...I see a couple of Medical School Deans on that list.
 
2014-01-31 02:11:53 AM  
Even more dangerous than a pleasant swim, at night, in eel-infested waters?
 
2014-01-31 02:12:36 AM  
Football is particularly dangerous when you play it like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP7Jp0uCN90
 
2014-01-31 02:17:53 AM  
It is somewhat dangerous, but the players wear pads. I know. I played it. And yes, it makes your body sore for a day or two afterwards.  Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.
 
2014-01-31 02:26:02 AM  

phrawgh: I love football as much as I despise basketball but this is sad.
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WTF, Nevada?
 
2014-01-31 02:27:03 AM  
How do I know a lot of you didn't RTFA?
 
2014-01-31 02:28:33 AM  
Looking back on it; I wouldn't trade any concussion I received as a kid for the life experience and fun I was able to enjoy between them all.  I may have left double digits worth of IQ points on the field but it was worth it.
 
2014-01-31 02:41:14 AM  
A lot if farkers sound like fat kids who never got picked and gym hating on football.. The pros of playing are way greater than the risks.

The glory of the win, the respect and bonds u build with teammates. There is no greater way to build a strong character and discipline...

Seriously all kids should play it teaches a lot about life instead of being a neck beard outcast playing wow and being a little birch who is a virgin till 30...
 
2014-01-31 02:42:30 AM  
That article was extremely verbose.
 
2014-01-31 02:45:03 AM  
No coincidence most these school shooters, weirdos and losers were kids who sit home all day...

Kids are lazy enough have them go out and learn to bond with other kids and experience real sportsmanship.

If you lock ur kid up cause he might gets boo boo I guarantee a lot of times he will end up a fat weirdo who gets bullied and no pussy...
 
2014-01-31 03:09:15 AM  

Brainsick: Oldiron_79: Pointy Tail of Satan: Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..


"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"

I had a hand me down one of those when I was a whipper snapper. I seem to have turned out fine.

What's ironic is I have you farkied in red as 'racist' based on several politics threads


Curious.

 I've noticed several people that do this on Fark and I'm not sure why.

One reason could be so you could dismiss something they say, because they are "racist" or whatever, instead of actually debating it properly. But that seems like a lazy way to do things (granted this is fark).

 I suppose another reason could be so that you could understand "deeper" meanings of things posted. I've never been terribly good at that myself and tend to ignore it to keep things simple.

 Not really going anywhere with this. I'm too sick to be very with it right now.

  Just found it curious.
 
2014-01-31 03:17:56 AM  

sirrerun: phrawgh: I love football as much as I despise basketball but this is sad.
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WTF, Nevada?


It makes sense.

Neveda=las vegas=prostitution=plastic surgery.
 
2014-01-31 03:28:41 AM  
I thought soccer actually caused more injuries per player, because any kind of sideways hit to the upper portion of your lower body while your cleats are stuck in the ground is going to be bad... and most football hits are head on and expected.

Kids have been beating the crap out of each other since there have been kids.  There's a reason they aren't really that strong...it's so they can't hurt each other that much.
 
2014-01-31 05:02:39 AM  

cuzsis: Brainsick: Oldiron_79: Pointy Tail of Satan: Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..


"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"

I had a hand me down one of those when I was a whipper snapper. I seem to have turned out fine.

What's ironic is I have you farkied in red as 'racist' based on several politics threads

Curious.

 I've noticed several people that do this on Fark and I'm not sure why.

One reason could be so you could dismiss something they say, because they are "racist" or whatever, instead of actually debating it properly. But that seems like a lazy way to do things (granted this is fark).

 I suppose another reason could be so that you could understand "deeper" meanings of things posted. I've never been terribly good at that myself and tend to ignore it to keep things simple.

 Not really going anywhere with this. I'm too sick to be very with it right now.

  Just found it curious.


For me, it's my alternate to ignore, but I also farkie people I like in green, and trolls in urine yellow


/YMMV
 
2014-01-31 05:31:52 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: More dangerous than, say... POOLS?


Dungeons and Dragons murdered me way more times than sports did when I was kid, from what I heard when I was a kid. I hope I didn't actually get murdered by either one. If I did this would sound crazy.
 
2014-01-31 05:58:00 AM  
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2014-01-31 06:21:44 AM  
The feminization of America continues.
 
2014-01-31 07:02:49 AM  
Never really saw the draw of football. The rules don't make it especially fun and it's a terrible bore to watch (although not quite as dull as baseball). I always enjoyed smaller team sports like tennis and the like, when it comes to playing.

/never really enjoyed watching other people run around
 
2014-01-31 07:05:25 AM  
Football is one of the most dangerous things you can let your children enjoy.  It also contributed more to my current 'success' if you could call it that than any other thing I did in childhood.  I played every sport I could fit into my schedule, soccer, hockey, alpine skiing, football, hell I even did a year of woodsman which if you don't know what it is look it up, it's the most awesome fringe sport ever.  I was never more part of a team than I was playing football. I was never held to higher standards of behavior,  dress, and citizenship and I most certainly never had as much discipline as I did when I played football.

All that said the risks are real. I've had two 'bad' concussions and nobody even reported or thought about the low level ones 15 years ago.  I think that the only answer is better helmets because it would be a damn shame for the sport to disappear and it's unlikely that it ever would so we might as well learn to do it safely.
 
2014-01-31 07:22:10 AM  

orangehat: Activities I took part in during my adulthood that resulted in a (probably or actual) concussion in order of prevalence:DrinkingConcertsReading FarkOffice job


A concussion from reading Fark? You do realise that when we say "headdesk" around here that it's meant to be taken figuratively, don't you?
 
2014-01-31 07:35:31 AM  
Rugby. C'mon, America, it is like football for men.
 
2014-01-31 08:06:54 AM  
Yes. The odds are against you making it to the NFL so you should just not try. In fact, don't try anything that's hard. Just give up now cause you're never gonna do anything.
 
2014-01-31 08:07:17 AM  
A child taking any kind of risk can result in physical or emotional harm.  Therefore children should be taught at an early age to never take risks.
 
2014-01-31 08:11:27 AM  

GoldSpider: A child taking any kind of risk can result in physical or emotional harm.  Therefore children should be taught at an early age to never take risks.


Too logical. And they don't teach logic to kids.
Or common sense.

It may be dangerous, but it is definitely stupid. The amount of time, money, and other resources spent on the game, from childhood to adulthood by fans alone is idiotic. If kids bought bubble gum that had trading cards showing the stats on their political representatives, well, if would be a different world. But what they concentrate on is how big this guys is and how many time this guy die this or that. None of which matters to them as citizens in their communities, their nation, or in the world. It's an outlandish waste of time (Yet here I am on FARK) and does more physical harm to kids than drugs, for sure. The kids smoking da reefer in high school aren't stuffing nerds in lockers and the like. They are too busy listening to music and not harshing their mellows. Show me a kid who can have a conversation about the state of their community, their state, or nation and I'll show you a kid that has spent his time doing more than memorizing statistics of beefed up boneheads. Show me a kid who knows (and believes) his local team is the best thing since sliced bread, and I can point to  a shallow, unsophisticated moron.
You know what those morons grow up to be? You can meet them on the sports tab. Many of them live in their own isolated worlds. Fantasy football? Nothing new. The very idea that "WE WON!" when all they did was purchase overpriced beer and hot dogs and scream at people in a stadium is idiotic. The entire fandom is living in a fantasy. A very dangerous one. When I see personalized plates bearing a hint of that fandom, I give a wide berth on the highway. Likewise stickers and clothing. It's a tip off that the person can become dangerously aggressive without notice. Their glazed over eyes staring at oversized screens on their oversized asses with oversized bellies while spending hours and lifetimes not interacting with anyone else who is not a likewise sport zombie. It's a cult. It's not healthy, and none of the fans or participants are anything athletic.
Of course, there are those that will take exception to this and attempt to impart the import of the new age of the gladiator, but their howls will fall upon deaf ears here. I've learned how to block the sound over a life time and the sound of a football game on TV merely lulls me to sleep, oblivious to the drama and stupidity of a game rigged only to impart more wealth to the wealthy and take all of it riches from the masses.
Oh, and enjoy the upcoming game. I'm sure the Doritos competition and bouncing boobies and nonstop gab about who looks good this year will change the world and bring about peace on earth, and good will to men.
 
2014-01-31 08:41:10 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: So just feed 'em ritalin and HFCS, keep them inside in front of the TV, and asssume they'll develop stength and determination and character elsewhere.


No other endeavors develop these things. Only football. It is impossible to develop these characteristics without smashing your face into the faces of other children.

Also, stength isn't a thing. Maybe spend more time inside reading? Doesn't really develop determination or character, though...
 
2014-01-31 08:43:22 AM  
At first I was going to point out that reading the Atlantic, Salon or Slate are far more hazardous for the young-ins, but I re-read the tagline and subby said "enjoy" which eliminates all three from consideration.
 
2014-01-31 08:46:20 AM  

Mralterego: God people are getting rediculous. 99.9999 percent of kids come out fine after playing football.

It's a violent sport but at children's level risk of serious long term injury is less than when their parents drive them to the game...

The pearl clenching what about the children shiat is getting old..

Football builds leaders, teaches teamwork, confidence, and discipline. More than worth the risk.


Q4t. Two 40 lbs kids colliding is not going to do much of anything. Obesity will kill much more of these children's than an imagined threat of concussions. I'm horrified at how sterilized life is becoming for children in this country and it is honestly killing them.
 
2014-01-31 08:50:12 AM  

Mad_Radhu: The rest of the world plays the much less violent version of football, and their populace generally seems less stupid when taken as a whole. Just look at how most of those countries have figured out how to make public healthcare work, while we just make our system even more and more complicated and screwed up. Coincidence?

/That said, I'm still rooting for my Seahawks on Sunday


Soccer players never get concussions from heading the ball. Never.
 
2014-01-31 08:51:36 AM  

Mralterego: A lot if farkers sound like fat kids who never got picked and gym hating on football.. The pros of playing are way greater than the risks.

The glory of the win, the respect and bonds u build with teammates. There is no greater way to build a strong character and discipline...

Seriously all kids should play it teaches a lot about life instead of being a neck beard outcast playing wow and being a little birch who is a virgin till 30...


You forgot to mention "top shelf vagina"
 
2014-01-31 08:52:55 AM  
sports teams = political parties

it's just another way of dividing people into tribes and turning them against each other. Either as players or fans. It teaches "Us vs Them" from an early age and enforces a violent position of tribalism. I would venture to say, though I certainly don't have any data to back this claim, that there is a corelation between fanatical sports loyalty and fanatical political party loyalty. Both are volentarily entered into, yet there is strong evidence to support that they can be entered into throuhg coercion or indoctrination from an early age by a straong parental influence. Both sports and politics supports a "mob mentality" and those mobs on both sides are teetering on a razor's edge. Any slight provocation when the mob is together can turn the gathering into a riot.

The corelation doesn't stop there. Some prominent sports analists flipped their careers around to become prominent political analists. The same AM Talk Radio stations that host political opinion talks shows, host sports talk shows, and they are closely scheduled together.

Now corelation does not equal causation, and i'm not suggesting that sports causes political partisanship. What i am suggesting is that the same type of person who would be a fanatical sports fan, could easily be a partisan politico...
 
2014-01-31 08:54:46 AM  

vudukungfu: GoldSpider: A child taking any kind of risk can result in physical or emotional harm.  Therefore children should be taught at an early age to never take risks.

Too logical. And they don't teach logic to kids.
Or common sense.

It may be dangerous, but it is definitely stupid. The amount of time, money, and other resources spent on the game, from childhood to adulthood by fans alone is idiotic. If kids bought bubble gum that had trading cards showing the stats on their political representatives, well, if would be a different world. But what they concentrate on is how big this guys is and how many time this guy die this or that. None of which matters to them as citizens in their communities, their nation, or in the world. It's an outlandish waste of time (Yet here I am on FARK) and does more physical harm to kids than drugs, for sure. The kids smoking da reefer in high school aren't stuffing nerds in lockers and the like. They are too busy listening to music and not harshing their mellows. Show me a kid who can have a conversation about the state of their community, their state, or nation and I'll show you a kid that has spent his time doing more than memorizing statistics of beefed up boneheads. Show me a kid who knows (and believes) his local team is the best thing since sliced bread, and I can point to  a shallow, unsophisticated moron.
You know what those morons grow up to be? You can meet them on the sports tab. Many of them live in their own isolated worlds. Fantasy football? Nothing new. The very idea that "WE WON!" when all they did was purchase overpriced beer and hot dogs and scream at people in a stadium is idiotic. The entire fandom is living in a fantasy. A very dangerous one. When I see personalized plates bearing a hint of that fandom, I give a wide berth on the highway. Likewise stickers and clothing. It's a tip off that the person can become dangerously aggressive without notice. Their glazed over eyes staring at oversized screens on their oversized asses with oversized bellies while spending hours and lifetimes not interacting with anyone else who is not a likewise sport zombie. It's a cult. It's not healthy, and none of the fans or participants are anything athletic.
Of course, there are those that will take exception to this and attempt to impart the import of the new age of the gladiator, but their howls will fall upon deaf ears here. I've learned how to block the sound over a life time and the sound of a football game on TV merely lulls me to sleep, oblivious to the drama and stupidity of a game rigged only to impart more wealth to the wealthy and take all of it riches from the masses.
Oh, and enjoy the upcoming game. I'm sure the Doritos competition and bouncing boobies and nonstop gab about who looks good this year will change the world and bring about peace on earth, and good will to men.


Meanwhile, you're eagerly awaiting the next Pokemon game.
 
2014-01-31 09:15:45 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: More dangerous than, say... POOLS?


Do you really NEED to swim?
 
2014-01-31 09:19:39 AM  
That's why I'm making my son become an MMA fighter
 
2014-01-31 09:45:58 AM  
if you want to consent to concussions and play football, then that's okay

the problem with peewee is that kids are much more prone to concussions than adults... adults simply get clots of CTE every where, children get massive clots of CTE, and namely it's because they're not built for contact sport - they have no neck strength

as such, i don't think kids should be allowed to do peewee football, i mean hey if you want to play football someday you'll get your chance, but you're still developing - you'd probably develop better doing track or basketball
 
2014-01-31 10:02:53 AM  
So don't let your itty bitty children play football.  Other than teaching your kid how to thow correctly or catch with his hands instead of his face, there's not much that they need to know prior to highschool.  Just let them play what they want to and come into 9th grade with whatever athletic talent they have.  If they want to play Freshman year football then let 'em try.  If they're big and strong it'll work out.  If they're not, they probably should try other sports - which if you exposed them to other sports, they'll have some skill in.
 
2014-01-31 10:04:25 AM  
Little kids running around like bobbleheads trying to tackle each other is hilarious.
 
2014-01-31 10:24:50 AM  
I would never let my kids play football.

Not because of the danger, but because i dont want to have to go to the games.

GODDAMN its a boring sport! Nothing ever happens in football. Its just as bad as watching a bunch of idiot southerners turn left for 3 hours.

No no, my kids will play hockey!
 
2014-01-31 10:25:34 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: So just feed 'em ritalin and HFCS, keep them inside in front of the TV, and asssume they'll develop stength and determination and character elsewhere.


You think football allows them to develop anything other than bullying skills?  Bwhahahahahah!
 
2014-01-31 10:26:55 AM  

ADHD Librarian: "...Obama now has said twice that if he had a son, he would not let that son play football. What about other people's sons? "

My son doesn't play football, my daughter does. Now I find out it is Obama's fault? I should have known!


[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 610x639]

/un-armoured wankerball
//un-armoured non-wankerball
///wankered non-armour ball?


I'm wanking, but not to the ball. How much for the little girl?
 
2014-01-31 10:31:18 AM  

Mralterego: God people are getting rediculous. 99.9999 percent of kids come out fine after playing football.

It's a violent sport but at children's level risk of serious long term injury is less than when their parents drive them to the game...

The pearl clenching what about the children shiat is getting old..

Football builds leaders, teaches teamwork, confidence, and discipline. More than worth the risk.


Yeah, you are wrong. The brain alone suffers damage, even when not getting a concussion. You can't inflict the head to that kind of repeated hits and not get damage. These studies also don't count the hundreds of thousands of men who have damage to their knees, back, joints, etc... that does not show up until they are around 40.

Football tears the body up, it is damage that is 100% preventable and that message is getting out. Kids football participation is down 12% last year and looking like it is going to continue to fall. Face it football as we know it is done, it is boxing of the 21st century. Boxing was once the most popular sport in the US, but now it is a side show.
 
2014-01-31 10:32:57 AM  

AdamK: if you want to consent to concussions and play football, then that's okay

the problem with peewee is that kids are much more prone to concussions than adults... adults simply get clots of CTE every where, children get massive clots of CTE, and namely it's because they're not built for contact sport - they have no neck strength

as such, i don't think kids should be allowed to do peewee football, i mean hey if you want to play football someday you'll get your chance, but you're still developing - you'd probably develop better doing track or basketball


You are right kids, i.e. any one under 18, should not be allowed to play contact sports like football, yes that includes hockey which has the same pattern of brain and body injuries.
 
2014-01-31 10:58:56 AM  
So far in Colorado I think we have had at least 5 or 6 deaths as a result of downhill skiing. Last year, we had around 12 or more. As of this writing, no one died this year from football.  One young man did die a few years ago from football concussion type injury.  As a result, every little league, high school coach of any sport must take and pass a course on concussions.
 
2014-01-31 11:24:07 AM  
My kid plays basketball (currently averaging almost 10 rebounds per game), baseball (catcher - in addition to the season, there's also winter skills clinics), and soccer (goalie, usually) during both the spring and fall seasons. There would be no time for football even if we allowed it.
 
2014-01-31 12:25:11 PM  
Apparently the writer never heard of "smear the queer"
 
2014-01-31 12:27:52 PM  

Brontes: You sound like a curler


My only ride in an ambulance was due to a curling injury to my head. So even curling isn't totally safe.
 
2014-01-31 12:43:16 PM  

HighZoolander: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 298x461]

/great book.


Big Helmet?
 
2014-01-31 12:56:38 PM  

EngineerAU: Brontes: You sound like a curler

My only ride in an ambulance was due to a curling injury to my head. So even curling isn't totally safe.


Okay, this story I have to hear.  What happened?  Did you have the traditional round of beers before the game instead of after?
 
2014-01-31 12:57:16 PM  

Mralterego: God people are getting rediculous. 99.9999 percent of kids come out fine after playing football.

It's a violent sport but at children's level risk of serious long term injury is less than when their parents drive them to the game...


www.pbs.org

So, let's say 150 practices/games per year.  That's every day for five months, which is probably on the low end for competitive high school programs.  4 years is 600 practices/games, and high school football sees about 12 head injuries per 10,000, so....

You'd expect ~0.72 head injuries over a high school career.  In most cases, the symptoms fade in 2 weeks.  However, the same report noted that "In 10 to 20 percent of individuals, however, concussive symptoms persist for a number of weeks, months, or even years."  Taking the median (15%), you'd expect 1 in ~9 participants to end up with long-term symptoms from a brain injury.  That's far from "99.9999 percent".

A lot of high school programs have ~120 kids spread out over teams at different levels, which means you're probably graduating ~3 kids a year who had persistent brain injuries.  I'd bet the majority don't get treatment other than maybe taking a break for a few days.  Competitive kids are very good at hiding things like blurry vision, confusion, etc. from their coaches, parents, and friends.

You can make the 'builds character' argument for broken bones, sprains, etc.  Heck, spending a couple months in a cast might actually teach an otherwise able-bodied child something about what it's like to live with a disability, or be a person that needs help to get through their day.  Working your way back from that kind of adversity can teach important lessons as well.

But concussions?  There's now plenty of evidence that they change the brain long after the symptoms fade, and that lots of low-impact collisions can cause damage without ever presenting high-impact symptoms like dizziness, vomiting, etc.
 
2014-01-31 12:57:51 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: EngineerAU: Brontes: You sound like a curler

My only ride in an ambulance was due to a curling injury to my head. So even curling isn't totally safe.

Okay, this story I have to hear.  What happened?  Did you have the traditional round of beers before the game instead of after?


Overzealous brooming?
 
2014-01-31 01:04:43 PM  

chimp_ninja: Mralterego: God people are getting rediculous. 99.9999 percent of kids come out fine after playing football.

It's a violent sport but at children's level risk of serious long term injury is less than when their parents drive them to the game...

[www.pbs.org image 333x397]

So, let's say 150 practices/games per year.  That's every day for five months, which is probably on the low end for competitive high school programs.  4 years is 600 practices/games, and high school football sees about 12 head injuries per 10,000, so....

You'd expect ~0.72 head injuries over a high school career.  In most cases, the symptoms fade in 2 weeks.  However, the same report noted that "In 10 to 20 percent of individuals, however, concussive symptoms persist for a number of weeks, months, or even years."  Taking the median (15%), you'd expect 1 in ~9 participants to end up with long-term symptoms from a brain injury.  That's far from "99.9999 percent".

A lot of high school programs have ~120 kids spread out over teams at different levels, which means you're probably graduating ~3 kids a year who had persistent brain injuries.  I'd bet the majority don't get treatment other than maybe taking a break for a few days.  Competitive kids are very good at hiding things like blurry vision, confusion, etc. from their coaches, parents, and friends.

You can make the 'builds character' argument for broken bones, sprains, etc.  Heck, spending a couple months in a cast might actually teach an otherwise able-bodied child something about what it's like to live with a disability, or be a person that needs help to get through their day.  Working your way back from that kind of adversity can teach important lessons as well.

But concussions?  There's now plenty of evidence that they change the brain long after the symptoms fade, and that lots of low-impact collisions can cause damage without ever presenting high-impact symptoms like dizziness, vomiting, etc.


So your source is the Institute of "Medecine" ?
 
2014-01-31 01:07:09 PM  

chimp_ninja: Olympic Trolling Judge: EngineerAU: Brontes: You sound like a curler

My only ride in an ambulance was due to a curling injury to my head. So even curling isn't totally safe.

Okay, this story I have to hear.  What happened?  Did you have the traditional round of beers before the game instead of after?

Overzealous brooming?


Close. I was sweeping and stepped into a wet patch of ice which caused my feet to fly out from under me. Landed on the ice with my forehead. Only needed six stitches but it did knock me out for a short while. Luckily the MRI didn't show a concussion. Lesson learned: wear grippers and indoor ice conditions aren't always great when it's 90F outside.
 
2014-01-31 01:20:18 PM  

coffeeplease: So your source is the Institute of "Medecine" ?


According to PBS!   But then again, the report claims to be from the "Institute of Medicine".

From what I've learned on Fark, both sides must be given equal weight so you can teach the controversy, so we'll say it's from the Institute of Medgcine and vote Republican.
 
2014-01-31 02:34:54 PM  

chimp_ninja: coffeeplease: So your source is the Institute of "Medecine" ?

According to PBS!   But then again, the report claims to be from the "Institute of Medicine".

From what I've learned on Fark, both sides must be given equal weight so you can teach the controversy, so we'll say it's from the Institute of Medgcine and vote Republican.


I read the summary, which basically says, reported concussion type injuries are up and more studies need to be done to determine their effects and how to best prevent and treat them. BECAUSE CURRENT STUDIES ARE INCONCLUSIVE.
 
2014-01-31 02:52:48 PM  

coffeeplease: chimp_ninja: coffeeplease: So your source is the Institute of "Medecine" ?

According to PBS!   But then again, the report claims to be from the "Institute of Medicine".

From what I've learned on Fark, both sides must be given equal weight so you can teach the controversy, so we'll say it's from the Institute of Medgcine and vote Republican.

I read the summary, which basically says, reported concussion type injuries are up and more studies need to be done to determine their effects and how to best prevent and treat them. BECAUSE CURRENT STUDIES ARE INCONCLUSIVE.


That doesn't mean "we know nothing about concussions, so everything's 50/50 and maybe they're good for you", no matter how much you capitalize it.  It means the full impact of concussions is not understood in the long term, in part because we haven't been paying attention for very long and we can't exactly go around whooping kids in the head to make an experimental group.

They know, for example, that 10 percent (above baseline) of people who sustain sports concussions present symptoms 45 days after the incident, and there were links between concussions and outcomes like structural abnormalities in the brain that persisted one year after the incident.

What that means when the kid is 40 is open for debate, but if you're talking about problems with memory, mood (anger, depression, etc.), and cognitive performance over a month after the concussion, it's silly to dismiss that as "probably nothing, totally inconclusive".
 
2014-01-31 02:53:31 PM  

coffeeplease: So your source is the Institute of "Medecine" ?


That right there is hilarious. You got funnied
 
2014-01-31 03:01:43 PM  

ADHD Librarian: "...Obama now has said twice that if he had a son, he would not let that son play football. What about other people's sons? "

My son doesn't play football, my daughter does. Now I find out it is Obama's fault? I should have known!


[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 610x639]

/un-armoured wankerball
//un-armoured non-wankerball
///wankered non-armour ball?


For someone getting her crotch petted, she seems rather indifferent.
 
2014-01-31 03:08:15 PM  

chimp_ninja: we can't exactly go around whooping kids in the head to make an experimental group.


Lousy Democrats.  Back in the day you could shoot people up with syphilis for science, now you can't even give 'em a simple conk on the noggin.
 
2014-01-31 06:32:04 PM  

chimp_ninja: coffeeplease: chimp_ninja: coffeeplease: So your source is the Institute of "Medecine" ?

According to PBS!   But then again, the report claims to be from the "Institute of Medicine".

From what I've learned on Fark, both sides must be given equal weight so you can teach the controversy, so we'll say it's from the Institute of Medgcine and vote Republican.

I read the summary, which basically says, reported concussion type injuries are up and more studies need to be done to determine their effects and how to best prevent and treat them. BECAUSE CURRENT STUDIES ARE INCONCLUSIVE.

That doesn't mean "we know nothing about concussions, so everything's 50/50 and maybe they're good for you", no matter how much you capitalize it.  It means the full impact of concussions is not understood in the long term, in part because we haven't been paying attention for very long and we can't exactly go around whooping kids in the head to make an experimental group.

They know, for example, that 10 percent (above baseline) of people who sustain sports concussions present symptoms 45 days after the incident, and there were links between concussions and outcomes like structural abnormalities in the brain that persisted one year after the incident.

What that means when the kid is 40 is open for debate, but if you're talking about problems with memory, mood (anger, depression, etc.), and cognitive performance over a month after the concussion, it's silly to dismiss that as "probably nothing, totally inconclusive".


Maybe you need to read more slowly. I didn't say that concussions are inconsequential and the paper you are citing does say that more directed studies are needed. There is a movement afoot to discredit football based on incomplete and inconclusive studies and you have jumped into it with both feet.
 
2014-01-31 09:54:07 PM  
Well, obviously this isn't true. There's church, for one.

And I don't mean playing David and Goliath in the parking lot.

Sunday School made a heathen out of me. Another unintended consequence of faulty but well intentioned  parenting, like my Mother refusing to tell me the results of my IQ test so I wouldn't get a swollen head.

It doesn't work like that, my dear lady.

Thorstein Veblen has some acute observations on the relationship between team sports and religion in his Theory of the Leisure Class. I was going to say this in the thread on the high school football coach who was fired for baptizing his players (turns out it was not an euphemism for water sports or buggery--he was literally baptizing high school boys--the bastard!)

Yes, I'd let any child of mine ride bikes without a helmet before I'd let them attend Sunday School or Church before the Age of Reason. (Which I estimate to be about forty or fifty.)
 
2014-01-31 09:55:51 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Football the most dangerous for kids? Ummmmmm.....no..

[blogs.babble.com image 500x399]
"Warning! Keep neutrons away from household pets!"


img.fark.net

Want.

Do you have to buy the Plutonium separately?
 
2014-01-31 10:04:06 PM  
Two more observations:  first, college presidents are just retired football players (if they have any brains left from their small original stock, quarterbacks). And second, football and basket ball are not games, they are bread and circuses for the blood thirsty masses. Football for Red states, basketball for light blue and swing states.

If I have balls that need chasing, I'll get a dog. Otherwise, I'd like somebody competent to fix my hernia from bending over to tie my shoe laces. Gooooo, State Med!
 
2014-02-01 12:53:32 AM  

HighZoolander: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 298x461]

/great book.


Great Frontline special, too. Watched it on the Frontline website last night after the brothers who wrote the book were on Colbert. The page for this episode of Frontline has a lot more information, including a concussion breakdown by position.

Sad stories. I mean, it's one thing to think you're going to have physical problems after playing for years in the NFL, it's kind of expected that you have taken a pounding in your career so there's going to be some consequences from that. However, it's an entirely different thing to lose your damn mind, to be unable to hold a thought, to helplessly turn into someone your family doesn't even recognize. Aikman and Young got out after too many concussions, but they worry they didn't get out soon enough. Bradshaw and Favre are concerned because they both have serious memory deficits.

I think one of the statistics from the BU brain program is that out of 195 former football-player brains they examined, only seven didn't have CTE. And it's not just professionals they've found it in, either. Two young players, 21 and 18, were found to have it at autopsy. It shows that the damage starts much, much earlier than anyone thought, and the damage cannot be seen on a CAT scan or an MRI. Definitely worst case scenario that youngsters and young men are having their brains scrambled before they are even old enough to consent to it.

What surprised me was the amount of force going on in the "pit" - the line of scrimmage. For some reason, I didn't think there were huge, concussion-inducing hits (like you see on wide receivers a lot) from the big guys seemingly just pushing each other around, but apparently the head-battering goes on there, too.

I'm going to be watching the game Sunday, but I'm also going to be thinking about this documentary and what the NFL (and the non-pros) is going to have to do to fix this situation. If it comes to minimizing contact, flag football, etc., then so be it.

/and kids should never play tackle football
 
2014-02-01 01:55:01 AM  

silvervial: If it comes to minimizing contact, flag football, etc., then so be it.


There will always be pussies like you who argue "It must be perfectly safe!  Nobody is allowed to take risks!".

But nobody is going to care about some stupid pussy whining "Hey, don't do that".

Nothing is 100% safe.  The people who play football know it isn't 100% safe.  They take the risk, for various reasons.  Yes, people like Aikmen and Young took a lot of hits, and those aren't good for them. They also made millions and millions of dollars, had a blast, and got laid far more often than  you or I could ever hope for.

Nobody makes them do it, and the benefits make it worthwhile, for some people, to make that choice.  Assholes like you will tell them "You don't have a right to make that choice, it's not safe!".  Then you'll get in your car and start driving home, despite the fact that cars are far more likely to kill you than playing football is.
 
2014-02-01 03:36:53 AM  
I only skimmed the article, granted, but the only danger backed by stats that I saw reported was for concussions.  And while that is a significant danger and injury, the detection of concussions has improved dramatically only recently.  Technology is catching up with the risk in regards to helmet design.  Steps, particularly at the H.S. and below levels, are being taken to reduce injuries to the head and neck through techniques in coaching (see heads-up instruction).

Football is a contact sport and there is risk.  With risk comes reward.
 
2014-02-01 05:18:05 AM  

JuggleGeek: silvervial: If it comes to minimizing contact, flag football, etc., then so be it.

There will always be pussies like you who argue "It must be perfectly safe!  Nobody is allowed to take risks!".

But nobody is going to care about some stupid pussy whining "Hey, don't do that".

Nothing is 100% safe.  The people who play football know it isn't 100% safe.  They take the risk, for various reasons.  Yes, people like Aikmen and Young took a lot of hits, and those aren't good for them. They also made millions and millions of dollars, had a blast, and got laid far more often than  you or I could ever hope for.

Nobody makes them do it, and the benefits make it worthwhile, for some people, to make that choice.  Assholes like you will tell them "You don't have a right to make that choice, it's not safe!".  Then you'll get in your car and start driving home, despite the fact that cars are far more likely to kill you than playing football is.


Calling a woman a "pussy" is creative.

I don't have to worry about getting laid, being a married woman and all.

You missed the part about kids, huh? Kids have to rely on their parents to make choices for them until they are old enough, and parents shouldn't gamble their child's *brain" on a game. As far as getting killed in a car, it's not that simple. The people with CTE lose what makes them *them* - it's an entirely preventable form of Alzheimers. Transportation is necessary to get from place to place. Losing who you are, your entire self, for a game is not necessary, but well-informed adults are at least able to make that decision for themselves.

No child should play tackle football.
 
2014-02-01 05:38:44 AM  

silvervial: Kids have to rely on their parents to make choices for them until they are old enough, and parents shouldn't gamble their child's *brain" on a game.


silvervial: No child should play tackle football.


Do you know the odds of a child being brain damaged from playing tackle football?
 
2014-02-01 12:18:53 PM  
Why do these articles have like 3 paragraphs of fluff before they get to the farking point?
 
2014-02-01 12:41:03 PM  

silvervial: Kids have to rely on their parents to make choices for them until they are old enough, and parents shouldn't gamble their child's *brain" on a game.


Considering how many parents allow their kids to play football, there are  a lot of people out there that disagree with you.

And no matter how big a biatch you are, you don't get to decide how everyone else raises their kids.

silvervial: No child should play tackle football.


Says a farking biatch who thinks she gets to control everyone else.
 
2014-02-01 02:54:58 PM  
Ban football.

Or at the very least, prohibit anyone under 18 playing football.

Football sucks.
 
2014-02-01 03:30:58 PM  

JuggleGeek: silvervial: Kids have to rely on their parents to make choices for them until they are old enough, and parents shouldn't gamble their child's *brain" on a game.

Considering how many parents allow their kids to play football, there are  a lot of people out there that disagree with you.

And no matter how big a biatch you are, you don't get to decide how everyone else raises their kids.

silvervial: No child should play tackle football.

Says a farking biatch who thinks she gets to control everyone else.


Okay, coach. It's clear you've got a lot invested in children playing this game. When more parents, especially mothers, find out about the damage that even low-level impacts can have on a child's brain, there's going to be a lot fewer kids showing up for practice, which is exactly what the NFL feared once the research started being done. The pipeline of childhood athletics that feeds into college and ultimately into the NFL is going to become significantly diminished. What a shame.

And me stating my opinion on Fark is a far cry from me trying to "control" everyone else, coach.

/sounds like you've had a few too many impacts to the head
 
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