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(NBC News)   Amanda Knox found guilty of murder...again (link fixed)   (worldnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 365
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2014-01-31 10:37:32 AM  

JSTACAT: MagicianNamedGob: JSTACAT: j the admissions and evidence would have resulted in a conviction.

Except that there's no good evidence that either Knox or Sollecito were present during the murder or had anything to do with it.

They both confessed they were at least in earshot.
Amanda bears the burden to "tell all" especially now, she has nothing to lose by truth, and a clear conscience to gain.

If she wants to rescue [if you could call it that] her time on the world stage, now is the time to come clean and demonstrate the power of conscience and ethics, even the Power of G-D.
That is what i sincerely hope for her.
When/if she tells ALL the truth, it will ring clear and loud as genuine.


No, they didn't confess to that.
And what she confessed to was after being sleep deprived and abused by the Keystone cops.

Can you prove you didn't do it?
 
2014-01-31 10:55:27 AM  
@bwhizbangthedirtfarmer

We have to accept that the Italians have their own logic system in argument, and they have been in business for 2500 years....
I sense their conclusions were Just.

There is no doubt that someone was brutally murdered in a house A had control of, etc.
You may not agree with the jumbled versions of events as reported, but i'll bet there were no doubts at the immediate scene as to who was responsible.

It could be that Justice is more important than technicalities in some more experienced societies; especially when it comes to wanton murder.

@inflateable rhetoric:
"No, they didn't confess to that.
And what she confessed to was after being sleep deprived and abused by the Keystone cops.

Can you prove you didn't do it?"

I bear a remote responsibility [like all Americans] in that i did not long ago, begin to forcefully and effectively speak out against the -female dominated family style- that allowed a young daughter to be raised without discipline, or morals
Also the abuse of wealth and leisure allowing travel to foreign countries under the guise of education that in this case was used to get the daughter out of the house...or as some kind of pleasure trip.

Abuse of wealth and power is where it all started, and ends.

US family life is so screwed up, look at all the tragedy that results..
like newtown, and a few hundred thousands more like that, etc.

We had better fix our family government, using the Bible, or our nation will soon be even more hell than it already is!
 
2014-01-31 10:58:00 AM  
You play a crazy person very well.
 
2014-01-31 11:02:29 AM  

Maud Dib: ElPresidente: Maud Dib: ElPresidente:

Hmmmm...my phone's still not ringing. What a surprise.

You've got nothing.

On the contrary - I have two things you don't. An independent unbiased mind and the good sense not to argue with someone who doesn't - you.

You've already been outed....


*plonk*

No time for tards.


Yet you come back the next day just to say so - the very definition of retarded.
 
2014-01-31 11:19:41 AM  

ElPresidente: Maud Dib: ElPresidente: Maud Dib: ElPresidente:

Hmmmm...my phone's still not ringing. What a surprise.

You've got nothing.

On the contrary - I have two things you don't. An independent unbiased mind and the good sense not to argue with someone who doesn't - you.

You've already been outed....


*plonk*

No time for tards.

Yet you come back the next day just to say so - the very definition of retarded.


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2014-01-31 11:31:44 AM  

JSTACAT: @bwhizbangthedirtfarmer

We have to accept that the Italians have their own logic system in argument, and they have been in business for 2500 years....
I sense their conclusions were Just.

There is no doubt that someone was brutally murdered in a house A had control of, etc.
You may not agree with the jumbled versions of events as reported, but i'll bet there were no doubts at the immediate scene as to who was responsible.

It could be that Justice is more important than technicalities in some more experienced societies; especially when it comes to wanton murder.

@inflateable rhetoric:
"No, they didn't confess to that.
And what she confessed to was after being sleep deprived and abused by the Keystone cops.

Can you prove you didn't do it?"

I bear a remote responsibility [like all Americans] in that i did not long ago, begin to forcefully and effectively speak out against the -female dominated family style- that allowed a young daughter to be raised without discipline, or morals
Also the abuse of wealth and leisure allowing travel to foreign countries under the guise of education that in this case was used to get the daughter out of the house...or as some kind of pleasure trip.

Abuse of wealth and power is where it all started, and ends.

US family life is so screwed up, look at all the tragedy that results..
like newtown, and a few hundred thousands more like that, etc.

We had better fix our family government, using the Bible, or our nation will soon be even more hell than it already is!


F*uck the bible, and superstition.

PS  Your comments are not relevant to the subject.
 
2014-01-31 11:53:08 AM  

JSTACAT: We have to accept that the Italians have their own logic system in argument, and they have been in business for 2500 years....
I sense their conclusions were Just.


Study it out.
 
2014-01-31 01:02:55 PM  

MayoSlather: CleanAndPure: And yet Americans all think she is innocent because an American would never do anything wrong overseas.

Seriously American media has been extremely biased in this case... backing the murderess.

I realize there is a difference of opinion from overseas, but I don't get it. This isn't an OJ style case where there is definitive motive. I'd say there is legit reasonable doubt from the details I've heard, and she'd have to be quite the psychopath to have done what they claim. I simply find that unlikely.


There is no evidence, no motive, and the killer is in prison.

What in the Sam Hell is wrong with Italy???
 
2014-01-31 01:23:38 PM  
She is guilty.
 
2014-01-31 01:29:25 PM  
Maybe that biatch roommate was flaunting her skittles and iced tea.
 
2014-01-31 02:09:36 PM  

Bungles: Some lawyers and supporters of Ms Knox have argued that having been acquitted in 2011, she would be protected under the US Constitution from "double jeopardy" - being tried twice for the same charge.
Yet the US-Italy extradition treaty only protects Americans from extradition to face prosecution again in Italy for an offence that has already been dealt with by the US legal system. "This is not applicable in this situation," said Professor Julian Ku, who teaches transnational law at Hofstra University.
For extradition candidates like Ms Knox who have already been convicted, the treaty states that Italy must merely produce "a brief statement of the facts of the case," as well as the text of the laws governing the crime committed, the punishment it would receive, and its statute of limitations.
Her conviction would "easily satisfy the conditions of the treaty," said Prof Ku. "So it would be hard for the US to explain why she should not be handed over".


She won't be extradited, but that will be because John Kerry chooses not to, rather than his hand being forced by pretending this is a double jeopardy issue.


I believe Prof. Ku is wrong.  The treaty doesn't protect someone from being extradited for an offense that has already been dealt with by the other party.  It only allows one party to hold on to them until they're done with them in that sort of situation, and then they can hand them over to be dealt with by the other party as well.

Usually, all offended parties get a crack at the suspect, even for the same act, so long as a law was violated within their jurisdiction, it's just that the same jurisdiction doesn't get two swings at bat.

For a more local example:  If you kidnap a minor in one state and then transport them through several states to another state, first the federal government gets a swing at you at the federal level for federal kidnapping, then the state that you took them from would for violating state kidnapping law, then any states along the way with an illegal transport of a minor law or whatever would get to take you on in turn for those violations.  If convicted at any point, you usually serve your time at that level, and then once you're "released," you're immediately extradited to the next jurisdiction with a valid claim that you violated their laws.
 
2014-01-31 02:59:59 PM  
In other extradition news, we're still waiting for Roman Polanski to be extradited to the United States to face justice.

France flat out refuses to extradite French citizens to the United States. They claim jurisdiction for all crimes committed by French citizens, no matter where those crimes take place. That should be reason alone for the US tell the French government to go fark themselves.

/and you guys think Italy's justice system is screwy
 
2014-01-31 09:12:13 PM  

patrick767: In other extradition news, we're still waiting for Roman Polanski to be extradited to the United States to face justice.


Now thats different a can of worms you've opened.
 
2014-01-31 10:00:09 PM  
From the Telegraph article:
" She was questioned without a lawyer being present and at the time she knew only basic Italian.  "

and we're done.

No confession can be taken seriously under those circumstances.
 
2014-01-31 11:42:15 PM  
So for all those convinced that she did it, how does the fact that a dangerous criminal psychopath is already in prison for the murder fit in?
How about the fact that he did not implicate Knox in any way, even though it would be advantageous for him to do so?
Is he being framed? Did he have consexusal sex with the murder victim and Amanda killed em in a jealous rage? Maybe they were all in a satanic cult together?

Granted there isn't a ahead of evidence that anything so abjectly ludicrous actually happened, but I'm in it for the shear entertainment value now. I won't judge I promise...
 
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