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(USA Today)   Are you not Sports Entertained? NASCAR announces the new way they will award Jimmie Johnson the championship   (usatoday.com) divider line 62
    More: Dumbass, NASCAR, Brian France, Homestead-Miami Speedway, playoff format, Sam Hornish, Austin Dillon  
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2014-01-30 04:36:39 PM  
I submitted this with a slightly similar headline, but without that McMahon-ish tinge that B.O.F. is famous for.

Meh

@NascarMemes

With current events being what they are in NASCAR, there's no time like the present for a new series sponsor.

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It's all good, we'll remain sports entertained, and we better LIKE IT so sayeth the FRENCHMAN
 
2014-01-30 04:38:57 PM  
Big NASCAR fan, and I think this is completely stupid.   Great racers will be eliminated through no fault of their own, which isn't something conducive to sports.
 
2014-01-30 04:42:35 PM  
Wow.  Since I started following NASCAR (2001ish) it's gotten worse and worse but this is a new low.  This idea is bad and they should FEEL bad.
 
2014-01-30 05:53:28 PM  
What a terrible format.

Both the webpage, and the "championship race."
 
2014-01-30 06:15:15 PM  
Everything is effing bad. Whoever even THOUGHT up this idea needs to be mauled.
 
2014-01-30 06:30:01 PM  
I see Homestead turning into the world's largest, most expensive demolition derby ever.
 
2014-01-30 06:32:49 PM  
You know, when the Chase came around I originally thought that it was a pretty good idea. Then I saw how it played out.

Go back to the old points system. It worked well for 30 years, and there wasn't any real controversy over it. NASCAR has lost ratings and interest over the last decade, bring back what worked.

Or, if you prefer, continue to make it more and more like the WWE. That ought to put butts in the seats.
 
2014-01-30 06:34:19 PM  
I'm going to put on my tin-foil helmet and firesuit here...

I think NASCAR has known for quite a while that the whole chase thing is a crock of shiat. But they just can't admit it. They can never say "we were wrong" so they have to go all in. Like, ALL IN. Epic clusterfark levels of bullshiat. As convoluted and stupid as they could possibly get. Meanwhile they need to hope and pray that another race series does something slightly dumb with championship points (think F1 double points finale). Then, maybe in a year or two after a couple complete bullshiat finishes at Homestead they'll make a big deal about going back to "real racing" and "old school, down home racing" where the men are men and we crown our champ! I can just picture DW giving himself a hernia selling it on TV.

I realize I'm being optimistic.
 
2014-01-30 06:36:24 PM  
I HATE the fact it's possible for a driver to win every race of the season except Homestead, and not be crowned the Champion.
I also hate the fact that the most vanilla track on the circuit determines the championship.
 
2014-01-30 06:42:22 PM  
I've been trying to come up with the worst scenario for this chase format. Here's what I came up with...

a-A fairly popular driver goes on a Vettel like tear, winning say 14 of the 26 races.

b-said driver wrecks out of the first three chase events

c-Ambrose wins Watkins Glen and Danica wins a rain shortened plate track

d-well... just let your imagination go from there. But in the end Timmy Hill gets the cup.
 
2014-01-30 06:42:38 PM  
So what exactly was wrong with giving the championship to the racer who finished with the most wins or who finished most consistently over the course of the season? Don't the heads realize these race formulas lead to that crap like the Bowyer spin last year? Are they trying to stage it enough so that it makes it clear that the sport is to-oh I get it.
 
2014-01-30 06:43:44 PM  
Ahhh..another gleaming drop of brilliance from the coke and booze addled mind of Mr France..
 
2014-01-30 06:46:56 PM  
NASCAR - We're trying to make rubber-banding a reality.

Link
 
2014-01-30 06:51:31 PM  
"Game 7 Moments"? Is this guy for real? How can anyone be so shortsighted?

"President NASCAR! We had 10 million viewers for every race during the season! But the champion was already decided by the last race, so it only got 9 million viewers!"

"SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING!"
 
2014-01-30 07:01:59 PM  
This is the Ricky Bobby of formats.
 
2014-01-30 07:03:17 PM  

Bonkthat_Again: I HATE the fact it's possible for a driver to win every race of the season except Homestead, and not be crowned the Champion.
I also hate the fact that the most vanilla track on the circuit determines the championship.


If you are going to milk that whole last race thing, then you make the title race at Daytona.
 
2014-01-30 07:15:06 PM  
NASCAR you used to be cool.  Then you saw dollar signs and it's pretty much been downhill since.
 
2014-01-30 07:18:29 PM  
If the Chase was so great, why didn't it trickle down to Nationwide and Trucks?
 
2014-01-30 07:19:34 PM  
I prefer the points system they had back when it was the Winston Cup.
 
2014-01-30 07:20:44 PM  
Dafuq?    man Dale sr has to be facepalming in his grave.
 
2014-01-30 07:23:27 PM  
Yet they find and deduct and suspend for fights and swearing.

Just go full WWE, Bri. Halfway through, have a full-scale brawl. Milk the storyline to the last race, even if the Cup Championship is locked up. My God, even get a one-shot with the guys from "Top Gear:UK". Have the Stig claim to be Danica's long lost love.

I want to be sports entertained. Get better writers.
 
2014-01-30 07:23:52 PM  
I'm thinking that there will be a lot more cheating and 'demo derby' type racing with this format.
Which interests me and terrifies me at the same time.
 
2014-01-30 07:25:59 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Yet they find and deduct and suspend for fights and swearing.

Just go full WWE, Bri. Halfway through, have a full-scale brawl. Milk the storyline to the last race, even if the Cup Championship is locked up. My God, even get a one-shot with the guys from "Top Gear:UK". Have the Stig claim to be Danica's long lost love.

I want to be sports entertained. Get better writers.


Some say he IS her long-lost love, and that his buttocks aren't where you'd expect them to be.
 
2014-01-30 07:51:00 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Yet they find and deduct and suspend for fights and swearing.

Just go full WWE, Bri. Halfway through, have a full-scale brawl. Milk the storyline to the last race, even if the Cup Championship is locked up. My God, even get a one-shot with the guys from "Top Gear:UK". Have the Stig claim to be Danica's long lost love.

I want to be sports entertained. Get better writers.


Have two of the four "finalists" for the Chase replaced by Clarkson and The Stig, but keep the same "whichever of the four finalists finishes best wins the Cup" deal. The epic lulz if The Stig or (gasp) Clarkson finished highest amongst them and won the Cup would be epic.
 
2014-01-30 07:53:02 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: You know, when the Chase came around I originally thought that it was a pretty good idea. Then I saw how it played out.

Go back to the old points system. It worked well for 30 years, and there wasn't any real controversy over it. NASCAR has lost ratings and interest over the last decade, bring back what worked.

Or, if you prefer, continue to make it more and more like the WWE. That ought to put butts in the seats.


this.

I thought the chase was a good idea at first, but over time - outside of the stewart/edwards battle a few years back - it's produced over-hyped nap-inducing racing all season long, dominated by drivers happy to finish 5th every race.

look at what the chase did to the bristol night race. pre-chase it was just one of 36 races on the schedule, and drivers really had fun with it and competed for the win. they sold 160 thousand seats and tickets were almost impossible to get. now with the chase - they ride along for 500 laps just trying to stay out of trouble. they're lucky to sell half of their seats now.

now with the "royal rumble" chase - they haven't fixed anything and it feels more like a gimmick than it already was. as a NASCAR fan - it's just disappointing

/and don't get me started on F1's double points gimmick
//at least Indycar hasn't done anything stupid like that.
///well - yet
 
2014-01-30 07:53:52 PM  

jack_o_the_hills: Ahhh..another gleaming drop of brilliance from the coke and booze addled mind of Mr France..


Yea, well he has spent an awful lot of time Daytona , so ...
 
2014-01-30 07:56:12 PM  
Bill France you are an ignorant farkweasel
 
2014-01-30 08:12:48 PM  
 
2014-01-30 08:32:15 PM  
I repeat from the other thread:

It's possible that a driver could make the chase by winning one race since only 12 drivers win all the races every season

In that case drivers who win 1-2 races in the spring can take 20 weeks off and let nationwide drivers run their cars yet still come back for the chase

That right there is bullshiat


Also you guys might start a kick starter to crash Jimmie at homestead...
 
2014-01-30 08:36:00 PM  
In 2015 who ever wins the Fark fantasy race league gets the Sprint Cup.
 
2014-01-30 08:44:59 PM  
I just thought of something even more depressing.

This type of ranking system is going to encourage cheating while diminishing penalties. So what if they ding you for 100 points after catching you with a turbo charger?

It's not like they can dock you a win without completely delegitimizing their entire system
 
2014-01-30 08:52:18 PM  

Bonkthat_Again: I HATE the fact it's possible for a driver to win every race of the season except Homestead, and not be crowned the Champion.
I also hate the fact that the most vanilla track on the circuit determines the championship.


Sponsors will leave the sport if this happens

Can you imagine dale jr winning like 16 races this season and then Danica crashing into him leaving the pits at homestead ending in kyle Busch winning the championship?

Fans would tar and feather France right on the infield
 
2014-01-30 08:53:27 PM  
Here's my questioning and I have a similar one for the new qualifying.

Let's say we get to Homestead and go into turn one on Lap 30 of whatever, and there's a huge wreck. Sparks, smoke, ballyhoo, Dave Moody hemorrhaging a testicle, the whole nine yards. The pack of cars slides down the embankment, into the grass, and wedged firmly in the middle of this mass of twisted metal are the four Championship Contenders. All three obviously out and unable to finish. What happens then? Do they get out backup cars? Is it a tie?
 
2014-01-30 08:58:09 PM  

Professor Farksworth: Here's my questioning and I have a similar one for the new qualifying.

Let's say we get to Homestead and go into turn one on Lap 30 of whatever, and there's a huge wreck. Sparks, smoke, ballyhoo, Dave Moody hemorrhaging a testicle, the whole nine yards. The pack of cars slides down the embankment, into the grass, and wedged firmly in the middle of this mass of twisted metal are the four Championship Contenders. All three obviously out and unable to finish. What happens then? Do they get out backup cars? Is it a tie?


Judging by how they do on track scoring :

Who ever got their mangled piece of shiat furthest down the track before the yellow came out is your championship

Now we all sit back and watch 270 laps of worthless racing
 
2014-01-30 08:59:14 PM  

Professor Farksworth: Here's my questioning and I have a similar one for the new qualifying.

Let's say we get to Homestead and go into turn one on Lap 30 of whatever, and there's a huge wreck. Sparks, smoke, ballyhoo, Dave Moody hemorrhaging a testicle, the whole nine yards. The pack of cars slides down the embankment, into the grass, and wedged firmly in the middle of this mass of twisted metal are the four Championship Contenders. All three obviously out and unable to finish. What happens then? Do they get out backup cars? Is it a tie?


There's endless possibilities for this season to finish badly. The chase, at least in this format, is not long for this world. I'm guessing somewhere between 2016 and 2018 we will have a much more standard championship format. They keep throwing shiat at the walls to see what sticks but they forget, it's still shiat.
 
2014-01-30 09:03:13 PM  
Again, another stupid scenario , what happens if Tony Stewart pulls his groin while eating a cheese burger and some nationwide kid who fills in 2-3 races for him actually wins and qualifies for the Chase?

Assuming Tony Stewart has already qualified for the chase, what happens to the part time kid who qualified ?

NASCAR pulls the "you can only race for points and wins in one series " card?
 
2014-01-30 09:07:05 PM  
I was encouraged by the qualifying changes and now this shiat comes out.  I am not saying I am done with NASCAR, but I am done giving a shiat about who they chose to manufacture as Champion under this deeply flawed and irrational system. I will watch races, but it will only be for the individual competition rather than any sort of buildup to something. The only silver lining is perhaps Jimmy Johnson gets taken out during the buildup to the championship race so he can't compete.  If it comes down to Danica Patrick, Paul Menard,  David Gilliland, and Aric Almirola for the championship due to some weird quirk and intentional misconduct over someone who won multiple races perhaps we will switch back to something a bit more logic and reward both wins as well as consistency.
 
2014-01-30 09:10:00 PM  

Professor Farksworth: Here's my questioning and I have a similar one for the new qualifying.

Let's say we get to Homestead and go into turn one on Lap 30 of whatever, and there's a huge wreck. Sparks, smoke, ballyhoo, Dave Moody hemorrhaging a testicle, the whole nine yards. The pack of cars slides down the embankment, into the grass, and wedged firmly in the middle of this mass of twisted metal are the four Championship Contenders. All three obviously out and unable to finish. What happens then? Do they get out backup cars? Is it a tie?


Perhaps the title would go to the driver who had a piece of his car land the furthest down the track?
 
2014-01-30 09:10:13 PM  
Used to go to both races here every year and travel for another back when it was the Winston Cup. Now I tune in for the last 50 laps if bored. Nascar ruined Nascar.
 
2014-01-30 09:19:17 PM  

Professor Farksworth: Here's my questioning and I have a similar one for the new qualifying.

Let's say we get to Homestead and go into turn one on Lap 30 of whatever, and there's a huge wreck. Sparks, smoke, ballyhoo, Dave Moody hemorrhaging a testicle, the whole nine yards. The pack of cars slides down the embankment, into the grass, and wedged firmly in the middle of this mass of twisted metal are the four Championship Contenders. All three obviously out and unable to finish. What happens then? Do they get out backup cars? Is it a tie?


I'm actually predicting that this will happen. The best driver overall will NOT win the title in this system, ever.
 
2014-01-30 09:20:27 PM  

crotchgrabber: I've been trying to come up with the worst scenario for this chase format. Here's what I came up with...

a-A fairly popular driver goes on a Vettel like tear, winning say 14 of the 26 races.

b-said driver wrecks out of the first three chase events

c-Ambrose wins Watkins Glen and Danica wins a rain shortened plate track

d-well... just let your imagination go from there. But in the end Timmy Hill gets the cup.


Worst case scenario?

Dale Jr. wins the first 35 races but is not your champion when he finishes second to another contender in the final race.

Even for NASCAR this is pretty retarded.
 
2014-01-30 09:27:51 PM  
I could see this kinda working if the "playoff" portion was just the guys in the chase.  Of course sponsorship would be impossible then, but it's the only way to have an actual elimination style event.  That could be interesting, especially at the end when you have four guys going all out on the track.
 
I don't know squat about the tracks, but yeah, the championship should be at Daytona or (if you really don't like that for some reason) pick four tracks wildly different (including a road race) and have a lottery for the last race.  Or do the lottery at the start of the chase to determine the tracks, just make them varied.
 
2014-01-30 09:41:20 PM  
Racing to win every week is awesome. Dave Despain had the right idea 20 years ago: pay big every week, and get the season champion a nice steak dinner.
 
2014-01-30 10:23:52 PM  
Are you all forgetting the terrible tragedy that befell NASCAR, requiring changes to the system?  Have you forgotten the cursed year of 2003, the year a northerner absconded with the cup?  A northerner took the place rightfully belonging to one of NASCAR's preapproved "faces of the sport" and marketing darlings; a personal affront to God and Dale Jr.  The horror!  Surely you agree something needed to be done.
 
2014-01-30 11:33:52 PM  

StormChaser: I see Homestead turning into the world's largest, most expensive demolition derby ever.


Which is exactly as it should be.
 
2014-01-30 11:38:39 PM  

smerfnablin: Bonkthat_Again: I HATE the fact it's possible for a driver to win every race of the season except Homestead, and not be crowned the Champion.
I also hate the fact that the most vanilla track on the circuit determines the championship.

Sponsors will leave the sport if this happens

Can you imagine dale jr winning like 16 races this season and then Danica crashing into him leaving the pits at homestead ending in kyle Busch winning the championship?

Fans would tar and feather France right on the infield


I'd pay good money to see that. And you would, too.
 
2014-01-30 11:58:50 PM  
I'm through with NASCAR

/well... except maybe for Daytona
 
2014-01-31 12:04:53 AM  

nekom: Wow.  Since I started following NASCAR (2001ish) it's gotten worse and worse but this is a new low.  This idea is bad and they should FEEL bad.


It's like they're looking at 2004 and saying, "How can we fail HARDER than this? Goddamnit, somebody go out and think of the absolute worst shiat we can get away with."
 
2014-01-31 12:12:15 AM  
If they strip a win from a driver as a "penalty" for some random chad style post race inspection failure it will strip all legitimacy right out of NASCAR instantly

Then we are all no better than formula 1 who hand picks their winner at the beginning of every season
 
2014-01-31 12:21:55 AM  

DanZero: I submitted this with a slightly similar headline, but without that McMahon-ish tinge that B.O.F. is famous for.

Meh

@NascarMemes

With current events being what they are in NASCAR, there's no time like the present for a new series sponsor.

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It's all good, we'll remain sports entertained, and we better LIKE IT so sayeth the FRENCHMAN


Wasn't me; I was at work.  But still, since the question was already asked in the headline, let's get the picture up to go along with it:
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I also think they're gonna do their damndest to hand the championship to Austin Dillon, even foregoing Jimmie Johnson himself, because #3 sells big time!
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