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(Yahoo)   Hillary Clinton is the largest front-runner ever in the history of a Washington post poll on Democratic presidential candidates, leading Joe Biden by 61 points. So she'll have that, at least, when whatever dark horse actually wins the nom in 2016   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 187
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2014-01-30 11:22:30 AM

I thought he couldn't run again?



//I'm a bad person
 
2014-01-30 11:40:40 AM
That's racist
 
2014-01-30 11:40:43 AM

flucto: I thought he couldn't run again?

//I'm a bad person


subby's talking about the other blah guy, Cory Booker.
 
2014-01-30 11:51:08 AM

flucto: I thought he couldn't run again?

//I'm a bad person


I like him better than anyone else in the field of potentials right now.
 
2014-01-30 12:03:56 PM
I'm liking this Brian Schweitzer guy myself.
 
2014-01-30 01:10:51 PM
1) Obama works with Ted Cruz to repeal the 14th Amendment for future elections.
2) Obama declares he was born in Kenya nullifying his two terms as President retroactively making Biden President
3) Runs for President in 2016 and 2020
 
2014-01-30 01:20:49 PM

ManateeGag: flucto: I thought he couldn't run again?

//I'm a bad person

subby's talking about the other blah guy, Cory Booker.


That's who I'm rooting for. Because he seem like a cool guy, he is nice to strippers on twitter, two black presidents in a row will make the GOP loons heads assplode even more (and there's the potential that he could end his inaugural address by saying "once you go black"), that pesky rumor that he's gay (however unlikely and NTTAWT) opens the door for him to come out while in the White House... or he could just be a straight guy but get some republican heads to explode by dating one or several white women while in office.
 
2014-01-30 01:31:13 PM
Right wing news spinners  have been waging a war against Hillary since Whitewater. It was a dirty trick therefore to do the old bait and switch in 2008. All I heard prior to the presidential nomination from right wing idiots was how Hillary was this and Hillary was that.

They had to change their whole message when Obama was nominated.

emergency-pants.net
 
2014-01-30 01:31:38 PM
That's a damn shame. I farking love me some Joe Biden.
 
2014-01-30 01:33:16 PM
That's too bad, I like Biden better than Hilary.
 
2014-01-30 01:34:11 PM
A person foolishly pretending that  electing someone through a fair democratic election who is a relative of a past president is identical to a monarch where a royal has birthright powers not ever elected by the people is the same thing in 3... 2... 1...
 
2014-01-30 01:34:34 PM
It's kinda funny how Hillary is not a safe bet for the nom, but the Republican nom has always been the establishment candidate apparent at least a year before the voting starts.

/at least this has been the case during my lifetime.
 
m00
2014-01-30 01:35:05 PM
"dark horse" heh
 
2014-01-30 01:35:30 PM
I hope the US goes few decades without having different Presidents who also happen to be part of the same immediate family.
 
2014-01-30 01:36:48 PM

Aldon: It's kinda funny how Hillary is not a safe bet for the nom, but the Republican nom has always been the establishment candidate apparent at least a year before the voting starts.

/at least this has been the case during my lifetime.


I think it shows a lot about the parties. I think Democrats are looking for someone "new" and I think the Republicans have a more loyalty and no someone who has been around.

The next election may be different. If the GOP noms someone nuts I would love to nominate more left like Warren
 
2014-01-30 01:37:16 PM
Well if it's not Hillary it has to be a Clinton. Right? Isn't that how it works?
 
2014-01-30 01:37:19 PM
It'll likely also happen in Canada as well with Trudeau part 2.

It would be swell to see Ben Mulroney run against him.
 
2014-01-30 01:38:07 PM
So the Washington Post made a poll out of a thousand mouth breathers around the suburbs of Northern Virginia and declares that's what the entire Democratic Party is thinking?

Yeah, you go do that, WaPo.
 
2014-01-30 01:39:49 PM
She's still losing to Generic Republican.  That guy polls so much better than actual Republicans.
 
2014-01-30 01:39:59 PM
Hillary is too conservative to get through the primaries, but she makes a great windmill for the GOP to fight.
 
2014-01-30 01:41:23 PM
Subtle, but I like it.
 
2014-01-30 01:42:45 PM
Alright, alright. I'll accept Hillary as the nominee on the condition that Joe Biden is once again nominated Vice President.

Come to think of it, I'd accept almost anyone as the nominee if they have Joe Biden as their Vice President.
 
2014-01-30 01:42:55 PM

flucto: I thought he couldn't run again?

//I'm a bad person




He could run again, But he has to write an executive order to allow it.

/I think Obama counts as a Clinton, so next up is a Bush.
 
2014-01-30 01:42:59 PM
Didn't the GOP learn last time about the dangers of spending all your research money and time on ways to defeat Hillary Clinton and forget about any other candidate so all you had was "he is clearly a Muslim Kenyan and therefore is not eligible to run for the presidency?"
 
2014-01-30 01:43:18 PM

Rapmaster2000: She's still losing to Generic Republican.  That guy polls so much better than actual Republicans.


Snert...drink! :)
 
2014-01-30 01:43:45 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Right wing news spinners  have been waging a war against Hillary since Whitewater. It was a dirty trick therefore to do the old bait and switch in 2008. All I heard prior to the presidential nomination from right wing idiots was how Hillary was this and Hillary was that.

They had to change their whole message when Obama was nominated.


Yeah, but to be fair, Hillary started it with her "right-wing conspiracy" spiel, and now she thinks of herself as a consummate "peacemaker" whilst her devoted "Hillaryites" gush on the TVs saying she is "destined" to be president because apparently she bought off Washington in 1999 and has a "reservation" but in actuality she's slowly becoming "Ted Kennedy in a dress."
 
2014-01-30 01:44:02 PM
have the chickens already hatched?

i will support the best candidate for the job, the one that most coincides with my political beliefs ;)

that said, i am currently not a Hillary supporter & i will never understand why so many members of the same families manage to become front runners in American politics.

i hear even ol' Jeb Bush is making the polls, that's a lot of Bush! maybe he should throw a "c" in his name...Busch.
 
2014-01-30 01:44:14 PM

Corvus: A person foolishly pretending that  electing someone through a fair democratic election who is a relative of a past president is identical to a monarch where a royal has birthright powers not ever elected by the people is the same thing "Too old" in 3... 2... 1...

 
2014-01-30 01:46:23 PM
The GOP numbers offer more proof that their batshiat crazy members aren't on the fringe. They're the mainstream of the party now:

• Paul Ryan 20%
• Jeb Bush 18%
• Chris Christie 13%
• Ted Cruz 12%
• Marco Rubio 10%
• Rand Paul 11%
 
2014-01-30 01:47:40 PM

way south: I think Obama counts as a Clinton, so next up is a Bush.


Fun fact: Clinton was not literally our first black president.
 
2014-01-30 01:48:44 PM

Rapmaster2000: She's still losing to Generic Republican.  That guy polls so much better than actual Republicans.


In fairness, that guy keeps his mouth closed so as to gather no feet...
 
2014-01-30 01:49:44 PM

patrick767: The GOP numbers offer more proof that their batshiat crazy members aren't on the fringe. They're the mainstream of the party now:

• Paul Ryan 20%
• Jeb Bush 18%
• Chris Christie 13%
• Ted Cruz 12%
• Marco Rubio 10%
• Rand Paul 11%


I'd say that actually shows the opposite. Out of that group of six, the top three - Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, and Chris Christie - are all Republicans very much in the mold of George W. Bush, i.e. the mainstream. Cruz, Rubio, and Paul are the Tea Party fringe.
 
2014-01-30 01:50:06 PM

rjakobi: Because People in power are Stupid: Right wing news spinners  have been waging a war against Hillary since Whitewater. It was a dirty trick therefore to do the old bait and switch in 2008. All I heard prior to the presidential nomination from right wing idiots was how Hillary was this and Hillary was that.

They had to change their whole message when Obama was nominated.

Yeah, but to be fair, Hillary started it with her "right-wing conspiracy" spiel, and now she thinks of herself as a consummate "peacemaker" whilst her devoted "Hillaryites" gush on the TVs saying she is "destined" to be president because apparently she bought off Washington in 1999 and has a "reservation" but in actuality she's slowly becoming "Ted Kennedy in a dress."



You've seen the Republicans in action over the last decade or so. Doesn't it kinda make her "right-wing conspiracy talk seem lees crazy?
 
2014-01-30 01:51:37 PM

rjakobi: Because People in power are Stupid: Right wing news spinners  have been waging a war against Hillary since Whitewater. It was a dirty trick therefore to do the old bait and switch in 2008. All I heard prior to the presidential nomination from right wing idiots was how Hillary was this and Hillary was that.

They had to change their whole message when Obama was nominated.

Yeah, but to be fair, Hillary started it with her "right-wing conspiracy" spiel,


No.

Fun fact: The right wing were indeed conspiring against her and her husband
 
2014-01-30 01:52:33 PM
Benghazi!
 
2014-01-30 01:52:33 PM
Chelsea Clinton will be 36 in November 2016. YOUNGEST PRESIDENT EVAR!
 
2014-01-30 01:53:47 PM

rjakobi: Because People in power are Stupid: Right wing news spinners  have been waging a war against Hillary since Whitewater. It was a dirty trick therefore to do the old bait and switch in 2008. All I heard prior to the presidential nomination from right wing idiots was how Hillary was this and Hillary was that.

They had to change their whole message when Obama was nominated.

Yeah, but to be fair, Hillary started it with her "right-wing conspiracy" spiel, and now she thinks of herself as a consummate "peacemaker" whilst her devoted "Hillaryites" gush on the TVs saying she is "destined" to be president because apparently she bought off Washington in 1999 and has a "reservation" but in actuality she's slowly becoming "Ted Kennedy in a dress."



"Good Lord", man, do "you" get "paid" by the "quotation mark"?
 
2014-01-30 01:54:14 PM
Ah, I guess we're just going to have to get used to these stupid threads for the next two years.

Will Hillary run she won't run will Hillary run
she won't run is Hillary 45 she isn't 45
Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi
Hitlery Hitlery Hitlery Hitlery
 
2014-01-30 01:54:35 PM
They're both too damned old.
 
2014-01-30 01:57:41 PM

rjakobi: Because People in power are Stupid: Right wing news spinners  have been waging a war against Hillary since Whitewater. It was a dirty trick therefore to do the old bait and switch in 2008. All I heard prior to the presidential nomination from right wing idiots was how Hillary was this and Hillary was that.

They had to change their whole message when Obama was nominated.

Yeah, but to be fair, Hillary started it with her "right-wing conspiracy" spiel, and now she thinks of herself as a consummate "peacemaker" whilst her devoted "Hillaryites" gush on the TVs saying she is "destined" to be president because apparently she bought off Washington in 1999 and has a "reservation" but in actuality she's slowly becoming "Ted Kennedy in a dress."


She was absolutely, positively, 100% correct about a vast right-wing conspiracy.  The last 14 years has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 
2014-01-30 01:58:02 PM
Don't you think she looks tired?
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-01-30 01:58:17 PM
I'm surprised. This didn't (yet?) devolve into a Christie 'largest front runner ever' string of jokes.

/+1 PolTab
 
2014-01-30 01:58:45 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: She was absolutely, positively, 100% correct about a vast right-wing conspiracy. The last 14 years has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.


Boo!
 
2014-01-30 02:00:13 PM

qorkfiend: patrick767: The GOP numbers offer more proof that their batshiat crazy members aren't on the fringe. They're the mainstream of the party now:

• Paul Ryan 20%
• Jeb Bush 18%
• Chris Christie 13%
• Ted Cruz 12%
• Marco Rubio 10%
• Rand Paul 11%

I'd say that actually shows the opposite. Out of that group of six, the top three - Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, and Chris Christie - are all Republicans very much in the mold of George W. Bush, i.e. the mainstream. Cruz, Rubio, and Paul are the Tea Party fringe.


Rubio is the new Romney, in that he'll say whatever people want him to say. I don't view him in the same mold as Cruz or Paul.
 
2014-01-30 02:00:38 PM

Cletus C.: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: She was absolutely, positively, 100% correct about a vast right-wing conspiracy. The last 14 years has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Boo!


"No!  GOPers just happen to, very individually, march in lockstep to a range of centrally-planned messaging 99.9999% of the time!"
 
2014-01-30 02:02:08 PM

Cletus C.: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: She was absolutely, positively, 100% correct about a vast right-wing conspiracy. The last 14 years has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Boo!


"No!  The GOP isn't just throwing tons and tons of shiat against the wall to slow down the opposition in brazenly unethical and destructive ways, they're just asking questions!  Ask Darrell Issa!"
 
2014-01-30 02:03:03 PM
themellowjihadi.com

The time has come, and everyone wants a pony anyway.
 
2014-01-30 02:04:55 PM

qorkfiend: patrick767: The GOP numbers offer more proof that their batshiat crazy members aren't on the fringe. They're the mainstream of the party now:

• Paul Ryan 20%
• Jeb Bush 18%
• Chris Christie 13%
• Ted Cruz 12%
• Marco Rubio 10%
• Rand Paul 11%

I'd say that actually shows the opposite. Out of that group of six, the top three - Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, and Chris Christie - are all Republicans very much in the mold of George W. Bush, i.e. the mainstream. Cruz, Rubio, and Paul are the Tea Party fringe.


I'd put Paul Ryan in with the other lunatics. He's far right wing by most any standard except that of the modern Republican party. He's only been trying to look slightly more sane for a year or so. Take another look at his long term budget proposal from a couple years back.

Throw in Cruz, Rubio, and Paul and you've got four of the top six.
 
2014-01-30 02:05:20 PM

patrick767: The GOP numbers offer more proof that their batshiat crazy members aren't on the fringe. They're the mainstream of the party now:

• Paul Ryan 20%
• Jeb Bush 18%
• Chris Christie 13%
• Ted Cruz 12%
• Marco Rubio 10%
• Rand Paul 11%


LOL...thanks! That made me go to the intarwebs to take a look at the likely GOP lineup from the Ames Straw Poll of three years ago (earliest one I could find with a quickie google search):

Michele Bachmann led all likely candidates
RON PAUL was a close second
Tim Pawlenty placed a distant third
Rick Perry was DFL
Mitt Romney didn't enter
 
2014-01-30 02:05:48 PM
Hillary's got an uphill battle.  As the latest numbers suggest, she can't assume she'd be favored to carry all the states Obama did.  Independents are not happy with the status quo, and policy-wise, she's really not a whole lot different than the way it is now.  "Same basic philosophy, only it'll be ME doing it this time!"  may not have the response she's hoping for...
 
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