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(Anchorage Daily News)   While the South cries about 3 inches of snow, one Alaska city has been trapped for a week behind a 100 foot deep avalanche. Bonus: The avalanche blocked a river, creating a massive lake with its own icebergs where the highway used to be   (adn.com) divider line 136
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2014-01-30 12:05:32 PM  
And that's why I don't live in Alaska.
 
2014-01-30 12:07:20 PM  
It's not that people wouldn't move out of Alaska, it's that they're frozen to the farkin' ground.
 
2014-01-30 12:07:47 PM  
Fark everyone that makes up stupid names for existing things. An avalanche is an avalanche.
 
2014-01-30 12:08:29 PM  
Hey, it's cold down here.  Snow-nadoes and everything.

No likey.
 
2014-01-30 12:08:49 PM  
It's their mayor's fault for not having enough salt trucks.
 
2014-01-30 12:09:18 PM  
"Did your sister find it cold up there?"

"I dunno.  Alaska."
 
2014-01-30 12:09:36 PM  
I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.
 
2014-01-30 12:09:38 PM  
Sounds like those people are handling their situation better than the current Hotlanta icerink situation
 
2014-01-30 12:11:46 PM  
That's a lot of dam snow.
 
2014-01-30 12:11:46 PM  
Alaska's been warmer than Virginia this winter. While we had highs in the teens, they had highs in the 40's.
 
2014-01-30 12:12:23 PM  
Pfft, we used to climb avalanches to school, uphill both ways.  Wimpy Alaskan complainers.  ::ducks::
 
2014-01-30 12:13:19 PM  
Cold people problems.
 
2014-01-30 12:13:52 PM  
That's Cool!
 
2014-01-30 12:13:53 PM  

KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.


I cannot say enough good things about this comment.  If we bought 600 snow trucks to be just like Chicago, golly darn it, it would be 600 trucks worth of wasted money 99% of the time.
 
2014-01-30 12:15:41 PM  

Attention Whore of Babylon: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

I cannot say enough good things about this comment.  If we bought 600 snow trucks to be just like Chicago, golly darn it, it would be 600 trucks worth of wasted money 99% of the time.


You could rent them out to private businesses when you aren't using them. Salt trucks can haul gravel too.
 
2014-01-30 12:15:42 PM  
Did I read that correctly that the ADOT brought down an additional avalanche on top of the original one and the ADOT avalanche is what blocked the river? Nice job, morons.
 
2014-01-30 12:16:01 PM  
The submitter better not come crying to us when they have to deal with weather they've never encountered or prepared for.
 
2014-01-30 12:16:20 PM  
Glad I don't live there but the pictures are pretty farking cool.

Bet my Jeep could make it over the pile.
 
2014-01-30 12:16:44 PM  
My brother was skinny when he went to Alaska, but he came home a Husky farker.
 
2014-01-30 12:16:56 PM  
To Atlanta: I am superior to you because my cold weather is more extreme than yours.

To Alaska: I am superior to you because my cold weather isn't as extreme as yours.

Love ,
The Northeast

/where I live
 
2014-01-30 12:17:07 PM  

Attention Whore of Babylon: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

I cannot say enough good things about this comment.  If we bought 600 snow trucks to be just like Chicago, golly darn it, it would be 600 trucks worth of wasted money 99% of the time.


What the cost/benefit ratio of the cost of those trucks versus the cost of having the city shut down the other 1% of the time?  If the second one is greater than the first, get some plows/salt trucks.
 
2014-01-30 12:17:39 PM  
Godzillaflippingoffnope.jpg
 
2014-01-30 12:19:54 PM  
I'm hoping that the higher-than-average incidence of people with small aircraft means that they can at least get regular airdrops of supplies until the roads can be cleared.
 
2014-01-30 12:20:08 PM  

KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.


b.cdnbrm.com

They cost about $50-$100 and don't take up much room in your trunk at all, so there really is no downside to not having a pair in the car in the off chance bad weather hits (I live in Seattle where we similarly only get a bad ice/snow storm every 2-3 years, but just leave a pair in my car just in case).

Of course, it doesn't help much when you can't move because everyone else has abandoned their cars on the road.
 
2014-01-30 12:20:08 PM  

KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.


www.thesaint-online.com
You could always get a Wildling Escort.
 
2014-01-30 12:20:48 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Glad I don't live there but the pictures are pretty farking cool.

Bet my Jeep could make it over the pile.


Shall I hold your beer?
 
2014-01-30 12:20:56 PM  

Delta1212: To Atlanta: I am superior to you because my cold weather is more extreme than yours.

To Alaska: I am superior to you because my cold weather isn't as extreme as yours.

Love ,
The Northeast

/where I live


I just turned 46, and have now lived almost exactly half my life in Minnesota, and half in Texas.  I'm not sure which side of this slap fight I'm supposed to be on.
 
2014-01-30 12:21:18 PM  

cgraves67: Did I read that correctly that the ADOT brought down an additional avalanche on top of the original one and the ADOT avalanche is what blocked the river? Nice job, morons.


Well I'll be sure to let them know to call you next time beforehand. Where did you get your doctorates in fluid dynamics and chaos theory again?
 
2014-01-30 12:21:55 PM  

FourDirections: I'm hoping that the higher-than-average incidence of people with small aircraft means that they can at least get regular airdrops of supplies until the roads can be cleared.


Valdez is a major (for Alaska) shipping port.  They wont have any problem getting supplies.  Plus, they are *very* used to having the road blocked by avalanche (happens almost every year).  This is just a much larger one than usual.
 
2014-01-30 12:22:54 PM  
Jeez get off the South already. Btw, I live in the Northeast. There's nothing one damned bit superior about a place that despite it's many salt and sand trucks has traffic backed up for 4 hours because there's so many shiatty farking drivers living there. These are shiatty farking drivers no matter what the weather. That is all.
 
2014-01-30 12:26:42 PM  

ShardingGreat: Jeez get off the South already. Btw, I live in the Northeast. There's nothing one damned bit superior about a place that despite it's many salt and sand trucks has traffic backed up for 4 hours because there's so many shiatty farking drivers living there. These are shiatty farking drivers no matter what the weather. That is all.


They actually get worse in bad weather. Not "the weather conditions make it harder to drive" worse, but "I see more people running red lights, cutting each other off and generally acting like idiots when it's snowing out" worse.

I have never understood why so many people think it's a good idea to drive less cautiously when the roads are covered in snow.
 
2014-01-30 12:28:16 PM  

Mad_Radhu: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.



They cost about $50-$100 and don't take up much room in your trunk at all, so there really is no downside to not having a pair in the car in the off chance bad weather hits (I live in Seattle where we similarly only get a bad ice/snow storm every 2-3 years, but just leave a pair in my car just in case).

Of course, it doesn't help much when you can't move because everyone else has abandoned their cars on the road.


I am 29 years old and have lived my entire life in north-central Indiana and I have never seen tire chains in real life. Those are only for the way, way, waaayy out there places. Like Idaho, Montana, Alaska, the upper peninsula of Michigan, Colorado. Buffalo. I would bet it's probably even illegal to use those on a public road in this state. Even concerning snow tires, I've never known anyone who switched to different tires in the winter, and I know a bunch of people that aren't poor.
 
2014-01-30 12:28:33 PM  
I am glad to see the water level is retreating slowly. Because if it didn't these folks would be learning a new word: Jökulhlaup.
 
2014-01-30 12:29:06 PM  

ransack.: cgraves67: Did I read that correctly that the ADOT brought down an additional avalanche on top of the original one and the ADOT avalanche is what blocked the river? Nice job, morons.

Well I'll be sure to let them know to call you next time beforehand. Where did you get your doctorates in fluid dynamics and chaos theory again?


I may not know the best way to set off avalanches so as not to make problems worse, but I expect them to have some expertise in that field!
 
2014-01-30 12:30:09 PM  

Attention Whore of Babylon: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

I cannot say enough good things about this comment.  If we bought 600 snow trucks to be just like Chicago, golly darn it, it would be 600 trucks worth of wasted money 99% of the time.


Snow driving is a skill that has nothing to do with Ford Escorts. It has much more to do with a subconscious level of understanding concerning stopping distance. Its something that gets internalized after driving in the snow long enough.
Since its also the most amazingly easy thing to overcompensate for and keep yourself safe, we northerners are all going to laugh as you crash into each other for want of a little patience.

The other part of this equation is that we know when to stay off the dam roads. Again, patience. The grocery store can wait. Read a book if you still have them. Spend some quality time with the cousins. Whatever it is you folk do.
 
2014-01-30 12:32:13 PM  

Mad_Radhu: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

[b.cdnbrm.com image 280x271]

They cost about $50-$100 and don't take up much room in your trunk at all, so there really is no downside to not having a pair in the car in the off chance bad weather hits (I live in Seattle where we similarly only get a bad ice/snow storm every 2-3 years, but just leave a pair in my car just in case).

Of course, it doesn't help much when you can't move because everyone else has abandoned their cars on the road.


Have you ever tried to put a pair of those on?  I also keep a pair in my trunk, and I've needed them once in 30 years or so.  I thought I was going to lose my fingers to frostbite putting them on in a parking lot.  (I had to get over a mountain)

They apparently sell ones that are easy to put on these days, but those are more like $400 a pair.
 
2014-01-30 12:32:16 PM  
the video in the article is breathtaking (third or fourth slide).
 
2014-01-30 12:32:48 PM  
I bet Sarah Palin can sail to Russia from there.
 
2014-01-30 12:33:19 PM  
lohphat


Random Anonymous Blackmail: Glad I don't live there but the pictures are pretty farking cool.

Bet my Jeep could make it over the pile.

Shall I hold your beer?


What am I going to drink then?
 
2014-01-30 12:34:51 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: ...

Bet my Jeep could make it over the pile.


I always wondered what the guy in the Jeep rolled over next a snowbank was thinking before he hit it.  Thanks.
 
2014-01-30 12:35:09 PM  

cgraves67: ransack.: cgraves67: Did I read that correctly that the ADOT brought down an additional avalanche on top of the original one and the ADOT avalanche is what blocked the river? Nice job, morons.

Well I'll be sure to let them know to call you next time beforehand. Where did you get your doctorates in fluid dynamics and chaos theory again?

I may not know the best way to set off avalanches so as not to make problems worse, but I expect them to have some expertise in that field!


It's a guy dropping sticks of lit dynamite out of a helicopter onto the side of a mountain. It's an art, not a science. He's doing the best he can!
 
2014-01-30 12:35:37 PM  

ransack.: Mad_Radhu: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

They cost about $50-$100 and don't take up much room in your trunk at all, so there really is no downside to not having a pair in the car in the off chance bad weather hits (I live in Seattle where we similarly only get a bad ice/snow storm every 2-3 years, but just leave a pair in my car just in case).

Of course, it doesn't help much when you can't move because everyone else has abandoned their cars on the road.

I am 29 years old and have lived my entire life in north-central Indiana and I have never seen tire chains in real life. Those are only for the way, way, waaayy out there places. Like Idaho, Montana, Alaska, the upper peninsula of Michigan, Colorado. Buffalo. I would bet it's probably even illegal to use those on a public road in this state. Even concerning snow tires, I've never known anyone who switched to different tires in the winter, and I know a bunch of people that aren't poor.


You're also limited to like 30 mph or so with them.
 
2014-01-30 12:36:32 PM  
I see what you mean:   damalanche. Yech! What a rama-dama-ding-dong word.

We'd just call that an ice dam, here.

Sounds better although it isn't.
 
2014-01-30 12:39:12 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Mad_Radhu: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

[b.cdnbrm.com image 280x271]

They cost about $50-$100 and don't take up much room in your trunk at all, so there really is no downside to not having a pair in the car in the off chance bad weather hits (I live in Seattle where we similarly only get a bad ice/snow storm every 2-3 years, but just leave a pair in my car just in case).

Of course, it doesn't help much when you can't move because everyone else has abandoned their cars on the road.

Have you ever tried to put a pair of those on?  I also keep a pair in my trunk, and I've needed them once in 30 years or so.  I thought I was going to lose my fingers to frostbite putting them on in a parking lot.  (I had to get over a mountain)

They apparently sell ones that are easy to put on these days, but those are more like $400 a pair.


The good ones these days are cable, and they're around $75 a pair.


img402.imageshack.us
 
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2014-01-30 12:39:37 PM  

Attention Whore of Babylon: If we bought 600 snow trucks to be just like Chicago, golly darn it, it would be 600 trucks worth of wasted money 99% of the time.

You know you can attach a plow to a pick-up, right? Only for a couple grand. Even the beat-up POSs you drive with NASCAR stickers and confederate flags in the back window. Seems like that would be money well spent to keep the rest of the country from thinking you're soft and/or lazy.
 
2014-01-30 12:41:44 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Have you ever tried to put a pair of those on?  I also keep a pair in my trunk, and I've needed them once in 30 years or so.  I thought I was going to lose my fingers to frostbite putting them on in a parking lot.  (I had to get over a mountain)


Yeah, I've had to put mine on once or twice when it has gotten bad. It really helps to practice in nicer weather to make sure you can get them on quickly when it is bad. I picked up a set a Les Schwab that actually go on pretty quickly, and they were under $100. They are not the easiest things to put on, but it beats having to get my car pulled out of ditch when it ices over.
 
2014-01-30 12:41:51 PM  

Mad_Radhu: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

[b.cdnbrm.com image 280x271]

They cost about $50-$100 and don't take up much room in your trunk at all, so there really is no downside to not having a pair in the car in the off chance bad weather hits (I live in Seattle where we similarly only get a bad ice/snow storm every 2-3 years, but just leave a pair in my car just in case).

Of course, it doesn't help much when you can't move because everyone else has abandoned their cars on the road.



This.

I have chains for all 4 wheels of both our Jeeps & while they're a PITA to put on they've kept us moving when we had to get somewhere.
 
2014-01-30 12:44:42 PM  

Ker_Thwap: You're also limited to like 30 mph or so with them.


In the conditions you are going to need to get out the chains, you aren't going to be going over 30 anyway. They are basically the fallback for when the road is a sheet of ice and you don't have the option to just stay where you are. It's not like you are going to keep them on all winter, just when things go to shiat like they did in Atlanta.
 
2014-01-30 12:46:37 PM  
img.fark.net

Atlanta snowplow fleet at the ready.
 
2014-01-30 12:47:07 PM  

Mad_Radhu: KidneyStone: I'm not crying about 3 inches of snow.  it's the 3/4" of untreated ice that I'm crying about.

Too bad I don't have a magical Northern Ford Escort that can climb 500 foot cliffs of ice.

[b.cdnbrm.com image 280x271]

They cost about $50-$100 and don't take up much room in your trunk at all, so there really is no downside to not having a pair in the car in the off chance bad weather hits (I live in Seattle where we similarly only get a bad ice/snow storm every 2-3 years, but just leave a pair in my car just in case).

Of course, it doesn't help much when you can't move because everyone else has abandoned their cars on the road.


wtf where did you find chains for $50? a set of 4 for my truck was over $1000.. and I have stock wheels, nothing fancy.
 
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