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2014-01-30 09:31:58 AM
I discovered there was definitely such a thing as too much expanded universe.
 
2014-01-30 09:32:34 AM
It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.
 
2014-01-30 09:36:31 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.



We're done here.
 
2014-01-30 09:44:50 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.


"Too much" STARTS with Episode I.  Otherwise, yeah.  All that needs to be said.
 
2014-01-30 09:45:41 AM
Considering at one point I had at least 40 Star Wars books before I got tired of reading the series, I would say yes.
 
2014-01-30 09:54:19 AM
I only watch the movies and ignore everything else so I didn't think so but I have a feeling Disney is going to change my mind.
 
2014-01-30 09:54:54 AM
...oh and I played some of the games
 
2014-01-30 10:28:50 AM
Speaking as one who saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in 1977, yes.
 
2014-01-30 10:37:14 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.


Well it looks like we haven't turned off the lights yet, so I'll add a bit of a quibble.

The issue isn't really too much Star Wars, per se.  It's that almost everything is either crap or revisits the same canon.  Star Wars exploded onto the scene because it was such a fresh approach to an age-old story, but nowadays it's steeped in familiarity and terrified of experimenting.  There's an entire fictional galaxy to work with, but the bread & butter tastes the same anywhere you go.  And no, adding an extra limb or something doesn't make an alien race intriguing.

If the Star Wars community ran NASA, they'd have over a thousand probes orbiting the Moon space station at the expense of all other missions.
 
2014-01-30 10:37:53 AM
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Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.
 
2014-01-30 10:38:27 AM
Star Wars is the most overused cross-popculture reference used on the Intertubes. So very much done. Twerking Stormtroopers? Just fark off, man.
 
2014-01-30 10:39:03 AM

Wellon Dowd: Speaking as one who saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in 1977, yes.


Huh, amateur. I lost count at 30.
 
2014-01-30 10:45:06 AM

flaminio: Wellon Dowd: Speaking as one who saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in 1977, yes.

Huh, amateur. I lost count at 30.


My dad wouldn't drive me to the theater each time I asked, and San Diego had poor public transportation.
 
2014-01-30 10:50:52 AM

Wellon Dowd: flaminio: Wellon Dowd: Speaking as one who saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in 1977, yes.

Huh, amateur. I lost count at 30.

My dad wouldn't drive me to the theater each time I asked, and San Diego had poor public transportation.


I was a 15 year old nerdy kid in 1977, and therefore precisely in the target audience for the film. A typical day in the summer of '77 for me was riding my bike to the theater (back then, kids were allowed to ride bikes more than 100 yards from home, unlike today's snowflakes), buy a ticket for the matinee ($2.25, IIRC), and stay for at least three showings before riding home for dinner. Good times, good times...
 
2014-01-30 10:53:28 AM

dragonchild: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.

Well it looks like we haven't turned off the lights yet, so I'll add a bit of a quibble.

The issue isn't really too much Star Wars, per se.  It's that almost everything is either crap or revisits the same canon.  Star Wars exploded onto the scene because it was such a fresh approach to an age-old story, but nowadays it's steeped in familiarity and terrified of experimenting.  There's an entire fictional galaxy to work with, but the bread & butter tastes the same anywhere you go.  And no, adding an extra limb or something doesn't make an alien race intriguing.

If the Star Wars community ran NASA, they'd have over a thousand probes orbiting the Moon space station at the expense of all other missions.


This. Dammit, everything doesn't revolve around the main characters from the OT. It also turns out in the EU that every background character in the movies was secretly a Rebel spy or Imperial agent
 
2014-01-30 10:54:33 AM

Fano: dragonchild: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.

Well it looks like we haven't turned off the lights yet, so I'll add a bit of a quibble.

The issue isn't really too much Star Wars, per se.  It's that almost everything is either crap or revisits the same canon.  Star Wars exploded onto the scene because it was such a fresh approach to an age-old story, but nowadays it's steeped in familiarity and terrified of experimenting.  There's an entire fictional galaxy to work with, but the bread & butter tastes the same anywhere you go.  And no, adding an extra limb or something doesn't make an alien race intriguing.

If the Star Wars community ran NASA, they'd have over a thousand probes orbiting the Moon space station at the expense of all other missions.

This. Dammit, everything doesn't revolve around the main characters from the OT. It also turns out in the EU that every background character in the movies was secretly a Rebel spy or Imperial agent


Even the Cloud City guy with the ice cream maker?
 
2014-01-30 10:55:05 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.


RoxtarRyan: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x555]

Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.


Meesa came for this.  Leaving satisfied.  Also, it's not often I get the urge to punch a kid in the face.  But this little biatch has it comin:

www.shadowlocked.com
 
2014-01-30 11:02:59 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.


It started with the "Special Editions". And not just because "Han shot first" but all the other crap Lucas added (especially to the original Star Wars) were a total foreshadowing of Episodes I-III's immature kiddy crap.

/so yeah, entered a star wars thread just to say I stopped caring about star wars a long time ago
 
2014-01-30 11:11:18 AM

Wellon Dowd: Speaking as one who saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in 1977, yes.


Not the theater but my brother and I did spend about 3 months in the mid eighties coming home from school and putting the tape in VCR every day.
 
2014-01-30 11:15:00 AM

Tax Boy: /so yeah, entered a star wars thread just to say I stopped caring about star wars a long time ago


That's pretty much every post in every Star Wars thread so thanks for sharing.
 
2014-01-30 11:20:47 AM
The new Star Wars tabletop rpg is pretty excellent.
 
2014-01-30 11:30:11 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.



The Phantom Menace could not have been that bad, let's see that Mike and Jay thought of it they probably had something positive to say... oh n/m


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&list=PL5919C8DE6F720A2D

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2014-01-30 11:30:22 AM

RoxtarRyan: Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.


Disney is actually pretty good at knowing when a cute character is annoying and backing off. For example, the snowman in Frozen seemed like he was going to be a total Jar Jar character, but he doesn't show up until the middle of the movie and isn't overused. Even his song is musical number is entertaining.
 
2014-01-30 11:32:27 AM

Calamityfox: The Phantom Menace could not have been that bad, let's see that Mike and Jay thought of it they probably had something positive to say... oh n/m


Surprised it too this look for them to show up.
 
2014-01-30 11:36:26 AM

RoxtarRyan: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x555]

Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.


You know what?  Jar Jar wasn't even the actual problem with that movie.  That's not to say that I liked him, but he wasn't the problem.  He catches far too much of the blame.
 
2014-01-30 11:38:46 AM

INeedAName: The new Star Wars tabletop rpg is pretty excellent.


I don't even know which one 'the new one' is at this point.  I know there was a d20 one, and then a new d20 one, and then I think a new d20 one(?), and I'm not sure what happened after that.

I didn't have fun with any of the ones I tried more than I had fun with the old WEG one.  Might not have been the system's fault, though, I can't say.
 
2014-01-30 11:41:30 AM
ANYTHING past three undoctored movies is too much.
 
2014-01-30 11:44:09 AM

Relatively Obscure: RoxtarRyan: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x555]

Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.

You know what?  Jar Jar wasn't even the actual problem with that movie.  That's not to say that I liked him, but he wasn't the problem.  He catches far too much of the blame.


Agreed.  He's more symbolic of the problem with the entire movie:  it's terrible.  There is very little of the movie that's not terrible.  Maybe the speeder race, but that looks too much like a cut-scene from a decent video game.
 
2014-01-30 11:45:16 AM

flaminio: Wellon Dowd: Speaking as one who saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in 1977, yes.

Huh, amateur. I lost count at 30.


Same, but it was "The Empire Strikes Back" for me.

/noooooo idea how many times I watched that freakin' VHS tape...
 
2014-01-30 11:48:09 AM

lennavan: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's called "Episode I: The Phantom Menace", Subby.

RoxtarRyan: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x555]

Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.

Meesa came for this.  Leaving satisfied.  Also, it's not often I get the urge to punch a kid in the face.  But this little biatch has it comin:

[www.shadowlocked.com image 400x200]


I hated Anakin 10x more than Jar Jar.  I could handle Jar Jar.  Heesa okay.  Anakin was more wooden than the Great White North.

/probably why Episodes 2 and 3 were more palatable, but the 'older' Anakin was still insufferable at times
 
2014-01-30 11:48:32 AM

xanadian: flaminio: Wellon Dowd: Speaking as one who saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in 1977, yes.

Huh, amateur. I lost count at 30.

Same, but it was "The Empire Strikes Back" for me.

/noooooo idea how many times I watched that freakin' VHS tape...


Im at 20,639,213,492 on the original Trilogy. Indy's trilogy is only about 10,000,000,000 views.
 
2014-01-30 11:50:02 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: ANYTHING past three undoctored movies is too much.


I agree.  At least ONE of the Episodes should've had a cameo of the TARDIS.

/ba dum bum bssh
//also:  I'm actually looking forward to see what Disney does with the franchise
 
2014-01-30 11:52:49 AM

Relatively Obscure: RoxtarRyan: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x555]

Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.

You know what?  Jar Jar wasn't even the actual problem with that movie.  That's not to say that I liked him, but he wasn't the problem.  He catches far too much of the blame.


He's the most glaring symptom of the underlying disease.
 
2014-01-30 11:54:58 AM

xanadian: I agree. At least ONE of the Episodes should've had a cameo of the TARDIS.


didn't they sneak in a few star trek references in both the original and more recent ones?  i seem to recall a story of a star trek lifeform in a long shot in one of the original movies, like a romulan or whatever, and then in the newer ones, one of the space battles had a star trek ship in the background.  dunno.

or was it vice versa - perhaps one of the recent star treks had a R2D2 making a cameo.....seem to recall a story on those lines, one frnachise subtly inserted another franchise's character.
 
2014-01-30 11:55:01 AM

xanadian: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: ANYTHING past three undoctored movies is too much.

I agree.  At least ONE of the Episodes should've had a cameo of the TARDIS.

/ba dum bum bssh
//also:  I'm actually looking forward to see what Disney does with the franchise


You and me both. I think the Star Wars franchise fell into really good hands. Just seeing what they did with some of their films. They can write really good movies. So maybe that corny dialog will be a thing of the past (except for the over use of "I have a bad feeling about this" because that's needed). I think they have the ability to make a feel good movie, a dark movie and a ton of "holy crap! Did that just happen?" moments.
 
2014-01-30 11:55:13 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Relatively Obscure: RoxtarRyan: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x555]

Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.

You know what?  Jar Jar wasn't even the actual problem with that movie.  That's not to say that I liked him, but he wasn't the problem.  He catches far too much of the blame.

Agreed.  He's more symbolic of the problem with the entire movie:  it's terrible.  There is very little of the movie that's not terrible.  Maybe the speeder race, but that looks too much like a cut-scene from a decent video game.


The speeder race was too long, and Anakin was still in it being far younger than they should have started him out in Episode I.  But I don't mind some kind of race-type thing being there.  It wasn't the worst part.
 
2014-01-30 11:56:51 AM

rickythepenguin: xanadian: I agree. At least ONE of the Episodes should've had a cameo of the TARDIS.

didn't they sneak in a few star trek references in both the original and more recent ones?  i seem to recall a story of a star trek lifeform in a long shot in one of the original movies, like a romulan or whatever, and then in the newer ones, one of the space battles had a star trek ship in the background.  dunno.

or was it vice versa - perhaps one of the recent star treks had a R2D2 making a cameo.....seem to recall a story on those lines, one frnachise subtly inserted another franchise's character.


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2014-01-30 11:57:24 AM

rickythepenguin: xanadian: I agree. At least ONE of the Episodes should've had a cameo of the TARDIS.

didn't they sneak in a few star trek references in both the original and more recent ones?  i seem to recall a story of a star trek lifeform in a long shot in one of the original movies, like a romulan or whatever, and then in the newer ones, one of the space battles had a star trek ship in the background.  dunno.

or was it vice versa - perhaps one of the recent star treks had a R2D2 making a cameo.....seem to recall a story on those lines, one frnachise subtly inserted another franchise's character.


Its backwards. Star Trek hid in the Falcon in one of the Generation movies, I believe its First Contact's space battle with the Borg Cube, and R2 was in Star Trek 09 in the wreckage over Vulcan.
 
2014-01-30 11:58:38 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Relatively Obscure: RoxtarRyan: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x555]

Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.

You know what?  Jar Jar wasn't even the actual problem with that movie.  That's not to say that I liked him, but he wasn't the problem.  He catches far too much of the blame.

He's the most glaring symptom of the underlying disease.


I found Baby Anakin more glaring.
 
2014-01-30 11:58:45 AM

Mad_Radhu: perhaps one of the recent star treks had a R2D2 making a cameo....


ha, that's funny.

but didn't Star Wars do the same?  i know there's storires about a tennis shoe appearing as an asteroid in the "asteroid belt" scene in Empire, and i think a potato as well, but, didn't they sneak in a star trek craft?
 
2014-01-30 11:59:50 AM

xanadian: //also:  I'm actually looking forward to see what Disney does with the franchise


Me too.  I don't expect anything revolutionary from them, but given what Disney's done with other franchises, we'll at least get reliable, entertaining, and fun movies that are pretty decent as films.

/the prequels lowered my expectations to this point
 
2014-01-30 12:03:58 PM

HMS_Blinkin: given what Disney's done with other franchises,


but there's teh danger (overreact much,me?) of too much cross pollination of SW with the disney crap;  R2 and Threepio (and I think vader?) already appeared in one of those 'hey jessie", "dog with a blog", whatever shows that my kids watch.  it was like a dream sequence or some shiat.  my kids were like, "dad, dad, your favorite robot guys are on tv!"
 
2014-01-30 12:08:32 PM

rickythepenguin: Mad_Radhu: perhaps one of the recent star treks had a R2D2 making a cameo....

ha, that's funny.

but didn't Star Wars do the same?  i know there's storires about a tennis shoe appearing as an asteroid in the "asteroid belt" scene in Empire, and i think a potato as well, but, didn't they sneak in a star trek craft?


I'm not sure about anything Star Trek, but George did sneak in some E.T.s to the big Republic Senate scene in TPM as a shout out to his friend Spielberg.

furiousfanboys.com
 
2014-01-30 12:29:16 PM
Some expanded universe stuff is fantastic ... Zahn and KotOR for example.

Some is absolute crap ... like anything Kevin Anderson.

Most fun I ever had with Star Wars was running an RPG campaign where the characters were all members of the Imperial Scout Corps. Very shades of gray, lots of fun moral dilemmas.
 
2014-01-30 12:40:56 PM
Concern troll author is concerned.
 
2014-01-30 12:43:01 PM

Mad_Radhu: rickythepenguin: xanadian: I agree. At least ONE of the Episodes should've had a cameo of the TARDIS.

didn't they sneak in a few star trek references in both the original and more recent ones?  i seem to recall a story of a star trek lifeform in a long shot in one of the original movies, like a romulan or whatever, and then in the newer ones, one of the space battles had a star trek ship in the background.  dunno.

or was it vice versa - perhaps one of the recent star treks had a R2D2 making a cameo.....seem to recall a story on those lines, one frnachise subtly inserted another franchise's character.

[blog.screenweek.it image 600x380]


You forgot one:

i.kinja-img.com

/ILM rulez
 
2014-01-30 12:43:46 PM

RoxtarRyan: Seeing as Disney now owns the franchise, expect a similar character, except TONS of them. Probably a musical number or two as well.


You know, Disney has done a pretty cool job with the Marvel stuff. The Avengers was freaking great (props to Ruffalo and his Banner/Hulk), Iron Man has been entertaing, and Captain America is like crack when it pops up on a pay channel.

Even in another universe, The Muppets was excellent. Disney does do things right from time to time.

//Frozen was great. Disney needs to focus on that stuff again.
 
2014-01-30 12:47:46 PM

ladodger34: Disney does do things right from time to time.


Some people also don't realize when they want to do something not as kid friendly (a lot of these aren't theirs anymore) they had Hollywood Pictures, Touchestone and Miramax. Pulp Fiction is my favorite Disney film.

They're just a production company afterall, it's not like Walt's re-animated corpse is sitting around writing all their stuff.
 
2014-01-30 01:05:05 PM

dragonchild: If the Star Wars community ran NASA, they'd have over a thousand probes orbiting the Moon space station at the expense of all other missions.


Doctor Who is much more guilty of this, especially when it comes to Earth centric stuff and repetition of villains.
 
2014-01-30 01:06:11 PM

ladodger34: You know, Disney has done a pretty cool job with the Marvel stuff. The Avengers was freaking great (props to Ruffalo and his Banner/Hulk), Iron Man has been entertaing, and Captain America is like crack when it pops up on a pay channel.


Disney acquired Marvel in July of 2013, well after Avengers (2012), Iron Man 1 (2008), 2 (2012) and 3 (April 2013) and Captain America (2011).
 
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