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(Daily Kos)   Congressman Tim Huelskamp goes on Rachel Maddow's show, has meltdown   (dailykos.com) divider line 198
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2014-01-30 09:51:49 AM  

Skleenar: That was like watching a talking points dispenser get jammed on "open".


There's an anti-Obama, Super-American minivan that drives around here that's plastered with god knows how many right wing bumper stickers plastered all over it.

Nonetheless, watching Huelskamp's inconsistent messaging was like watching that minivan lose control on the expressway, barrel-roll into the median and, finally, explode --littering the highway with broken, little, super-patriot bon mots.
 
2014-01-30 09:53:09 AM  

organizmx: The Iraq war wasn't waged for political purposes. 9/11 and Afghanistan gave Bush any of that extra political support he needed. Not just at home, but worldwide. Iraq farked that all up.


j-walkblog.com

Bush's 9-11 popularity bump was fading fast. He didn't get any boost from Afghanistan. He got a huge boost from Iraq, mainly because it was advertised better. That said, the boost wore off well before the election (dropped off rapidly once "Mission Accomplished" turned not to be the case) and I don't think it ultimately had any impact on the results.
 
2014-01-30 09:56:38 AM  
Note to self: Never EVER call Rachel Maddow a cheerleader.
 
2014-01-30 09:57:29 AM  

Lost Thought 00: organizmx: The Iraq war wasn't waged for political purposes. 9/11 and Afghanistan gave Bush any of that extra political support he needed. Not just at home, but worldwide. Iraq farked that all up.



Bush's 9-11 popularity bump was fading fast. He didn't get any boost from Afghanistan. He got a huge boost from Iraq, mainly because it was advertised better. That said, the boost wore off well before the election (dropped off rapidly once "Mission Accomplished" turned not to be the case) and I don't think it ultimately had any impact on the results.


Fair enough, but I don't think it's accurate to say he invaded the country to win popularity for an election.

There's a lot of other legit, horrible, disgusting reasons, but that's not one of them.
 
2014-01-30 09:57:38 AM  
 
2014-01-30 09:59:39 AM  
Wow. What a muddled, soft-headed mess he was. It's amazing how much he sounded like your average FARK poster suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome. I don't know why it's so incredible to me when I see members of Congress display the same level of derp I see on the Internet daily, but it is.
 
2014-01-30 10:00:53 AM  

SomeoneDumb: I guess it's clear from the video that meltdown is another word I no longer know the meaning of.

/Political discourse has died


THIS
And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed. It didn't seem seem like anyone really won on that emabarrassment of  "journalism".
But to tweet as the pres is speaking is pretty foolish and disrespectful.
 
2014-01-30 10:00:55 AM  

organizmx: Lost Thought 00: organizmx: The Iraq war wasn't waged for political purposes. 9/11 and Afghanistan gave Bush any of that extra political support he needed. Not just at home, but worldwide. Iraq farked that all up.

Bush's 9-11 popularity bump was fading fast. He didn't get any boost from Afghanistan. He got a huge boost from Iraq, mainly because it was advertised better. That said, the boost wore off well before the election (dropped off rapidly once "Mission Accomplished" turned not to be the case) and I don't think it ultimately had any impact on the results.

Fair enough, but I don't think it's accurate to say he invaded the country to win popularity for an election.

There's a lot of other legit, horrible, disgusting reasons, but that's not one of them.


I suspect you are right. Of course, his political planners did their best to use the war to political advantage, but that would be true for any President, regardless of party.
 
2014-01-30 10:02:11 AM  

DrBenway: Note to self: Never EVER call Rachel Maddow a cheerleader.


I think she was aghast because she has been very critical of the Obama administration at times. For him to call her a cheerleader was just plain idiocy.
 
2014-01-30 10:04:30 AM  
The modern GOP is the walking, talking example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
 
2014-01-30 10:05:03 AM  
His doctor needs to review his meds
 
2014-01-30 10:05:24 AM  

someonelse: DrBenway: Note to self: Never EVER call Rachel Maddow a cheerleader.

I think she was aghast because she has been very critical of the Obama administration at times. For him to call her a cheerleader was just plain idiocy.


to be fair, they only care about her when she acts like she's worshipping Obama. It fits into their mindset of "OMG LIEBRAL MEDIA!!!"
 
2014-01-30 10:05:53 AM  

SomeoneDumb: I guess it's clear from the video that meltdown is another word I no longer know the meaning of.

/Political discourse has died


You can't have discourse with a potato. Though I wouldn't have called it a meltdown. It was more like a toddler trying to spin on a Sit'nSpin, then tumbling off, falling on his face, and puking Cheerios on all over his onesie.
 
2014-01-30 10:07:32 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Why on God's green Earth would he go on Maddow? What did he think was going to happen?


Maybe he was going to give her a good strumping.
 
2014-01-30 10:08:01 AM  

organizmx: Just a few short years later its already insane to think about how we let that happen.


In August of 2002 it was insane to think that it was going to happen and there was nothing I could do about it.
 
2014-01-30 10:08:42 AM  

Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.


In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.
 
2014-01-30 10:12:01 AM  

The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.


Oh, I think we both know that's not going to happen.
 
2014-01-30 10:12:05 AM  
I'm surprised he went with "cheerleader".  Usually they go with the fellatio metaphor.

/yeah i know, nary a difference....
 
2014-01-30 10:12:56 AM  

The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.


Why won't she answer anything about Benghazi?

Cheerleader. That's why.

Furthermore.
 
2014-01-30 10:14:18 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: I'm surprised he went with "cheerleader". Usually they go with the fellatio metaphor.


They usually reserve that for when they're discussing men, for some reason.
 
2014-01-30 10:14:28 AM  

Testiclaw: The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.

Why won't she answer anything about Benghazi?

Cheerleader. That's why.

Furthermore.


Because reasons!
 
2014-01-30 10:15:28 AM  
Daily Kos leads with the race card and calls relatively benign and typically politically partisan tweets hate speech.

Isn't that just the cutest thing.
 
2014-01-30 10:15:55 AM  
I love the way he virtually spat out the words "YOUR Hillary." Total thundering loony.
 
2014-01-30 10:16:08 AM  
Where is the Republican Party getting these lunatic imbecils? Are they running ads in rightwing publications, asking for the brain dead and paranoid nutcases to sign up as Congressional candidates? The list of Republicans who stand up in front of a camera and spout meaningless, incomprehensible BS as if it's a tried and true fact is growing and doing so rapidly.
 
2014-01-30 10:16:17 AM  

Vodka Zombie: Testiclaw: The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.

Why won't she answer anything about Benghazi?

Cheerleader. That's why.

Furthermore.

Because reasons!


And Jesus.
 
2014-01-30 10:16:42 AM  
Also, I hope she does a segment blasting him tonight.
 
2014-01-30 10:16:50 AM  

Bungles: The problem with a "Military! RAH RAH RAH!" Conservative going on Maddow is that she's probably one of the most informed journalists there is on the precise minutia of military spending - she did write a book on it and all.


Yeah, people shouldn't think they can debate Maddow about the military with meaningless platitudes and lies. She's very educated about that stuff.

It's like this guy was trying to mention every pseudoscandal the Obama administration has been implicated in as quickly as possible.
 
2014-01-30 10:17:22 AM  

theorellior: Vodka Zombie: Testiclaw: The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.

Why won't she answer anything about Benghazi?

Cheerleader. That's why.

Furthermore.

Because reasons!

And Jesus.


JESONS!
 
2014-01-30 10:18:20 AM  

omgbears: Irreprehensible? The dictionary lobby has shown it's true colors...


I laughed when Maddow used his word, though!
 
2014-01-30 10:19:04 AM  

Cletus C.: Daily Kos leads with the race card and calls relatively benign and typically politically partisan tweets hate speech.

Isn't that just the cutest thing.


There really isn't much other reason for their hatred of the man that makes any sense. He's done nearly everything Republicans have been talking about doing for the last 50 years, with the exception of privatizing Social Security and the Postal Service.
 
2014-01-30 10:19:30 AM  

Cletus C.: Daily Kos leads with the race card and calls relatively benign and typically politically partisan tweets hate speech.

Isn't that just the cutest thing.


Yes, that is so much more disturbing than a member of Congress displaying deranged incoherence. You really cut to the heart of the issue there.
 
2014-01-30 10:20:57 AM  

Bartman66: It didn't seem seem like anyone really won on that emabarrassment of  "journalism".


1. the point of an interview isn't for one side to win. It's to inform the public. I know, that's me in my Pollyanna mode, but at the end of an interview I want to know more about an issue or a person than I did at the start of the interview. I have no interest in being able to say "he won!" or "she won!"

2. even if I did feel that way, both sides may have been bad, but they were not equally bad.
 
2014-01-30 10:21:10 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Why on God's green Earth would he go on Maddow? What did he think was going to happen?


He knew exactly what would happen, teabag idiots eat this shiat up.
 
2014-01-30 10:21:47 AM  
I hope this guy becomes a candidate for the next Presidential election.

What's an ideal lineup for the next one? Him, Cruz is a no-brainer, obviously Christy, and since we need a wild-card, Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Late in the last round, coming from the stands, BAH GAWD KING, IT'S PALIN COMING FROM THE CROWD AND SHE'S GOT A GUN!
 
2014-01-30 10:22:17 AM  
Wow, he started with "Obama is politicizing the military by having a soldier on", then moved right into "We were going to have a soldier on, too.".

He followed that with "Obama hates the military because he ran on a platform of brgining them home from the wars in which they were dying.".

Then he ended with "Well, Obama is subverting the will of the people when he bypasses Congress." Yeah, they 'Congress' that has something like 6% approval or something right now? If they were actually representing the 'will of the people', they'd have approval in the 90's...

What a tool. I couldn't even watchj the end, it just got too derpy...
 
2014-01-30 10:22:52 AM  

someonelse: Wow. What a muddled, soft-headed mess he was. It's amazing how much he sounded like your average FARK poster suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome. I don't know why it's so incredible to me when I see members of Congress display the same level of derp I see on the Internet daily, but it is.


What surprised me, more than anything, is how well rehearsed some of his talking points were. There were places where he was talking fast, with a rising voice, flailing his arms around, and he's just spewing out the craziest shiat. And then, just when it looks like he's about to pop a vein, he catches himself, and calmly recite some approved republican talking point verbatim.

I honestly imagine all the Republicans congressmen collecting together in a big auditorium each morning to go over each day's talking points.  This guy, standing proudly among hisbrethren, hand clutched over his heart flag pin, reciting "at the end of the day, his policies are failing, and that's why there are 24 million Americans looking for a job" twenty times each morning.  He says the mantra over and over again, until the words have the power to calm him.  The power to convince him that he's on the side of good.  The words have the power of truth.
 
2014-01-30 10:23:33 AM  

Bendal: Where is the Republican Party getting these lunatic imbecils? Are they running ads in rightwing publications, asking for the brain dead and paranoid nutcases to sign up as Congressional candidates? The list of Republicans who stand up in front of a camera and spout meaningless, incomprehensible BS as if it's a tried and true fact is growing and doing so rapidly.


No, they just defunded the mental health industry and then held up the individuals who would normally have been patients as heroes. The more paranoid, outrageous and bizarre the statements these folks utter, the more they are interpreted at being "sincere in their beliefs" even as they can be countered with pesky little things as "facts" or merely called out on their hyperbole.
 
2014-01-30 10:24:04 AM  

The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.


LOL
Gee.. you're right she is so "non-partisan" and equally focuses on both sides...lol
If you idiots believe that.. well.
SHe is just like that Fox / MSNBC etc.. "journalists" that put party ahead of news. WHile she might not be as bad as the Hannity's or Sharpton's out there and she is obviously very educated she stil has her view and slant that she puts out like all the rest.
Sorry if that offends you because you are on her side of the isle but that is just how it is.
But I am sure that her cheerleaders here will cry, rant and rave about how she is not..
// waiting for the always funny .."B-But truth has a "insert side" bias
 
2014-01-30 10:24:30 AM  
emperor napoleon also liked spicy mustard
 
2014-01-30 10:25:01 AM  
The solution: DIG FASTER!

Seriously. At some point, folks are going to have to realize that the cameras are on, and that the people sitting across from them actually DO have degrees, and when they're not sitting in front of Fox commentators and bloggers, or other complicit media, these folks WILL just let them run on, and NOT edit out the stuff that makes them seem like idiots. They're not invested in making them look good, which means that they won't steer the conversation away from topics, they won't cut them off when they're about to ramble on, and they will ask questions that might just lead them to topics where they're not strong.

Saint Sarah got tripped up by Katie f*cking Couric for cripes sake. With a question that was designed to actually strengthen her image, but she hadn't prepped at all. Or rather, had prepped only talking points, and that filled her head up so much, that she couldn't adjust. Which is crazy when you think that she was a Communications major. She should have been familiar with the style of questioning. She should have been prepared, because it's what she trained for. That she was ill prepared and out of her depth, when it was her own field, said something.

When you only talk to a bubble, it's easy to get complacent, and at some point, politicians NEED to understand exactly that. Dislike O'Reilly or not, I get a kick out him going on with Jon Stewart, because he knows exactly what he's going into when he rolls in to the TDS, and he puts on a good show. With politicians, they NEED to prep more with talking with a press that isn't complicit.

It's not a rabid press that they face, but their own lack of respect for the fact that they're about to sit down with folks who are smart, who are trained to ask questions and illicit responses, and who do their homework. Folks get their lunch handed to them by these reporters, they deserve it, for not doing their own. It's the free market of ideas, and folks are not competing well, that's their own damn fault...
 
2014-01-30 10:26:16 AM  

Bartman66: SomeoneDumb: I guess it's clear from the video that meltdown is another word I no longer know the meaning of.

/Political discourse has died

THIS
And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed. It didn't seem seem like anyone really won on that emabarrassment of  "journalism".
But to tweet as the pres is speaking is pretty foolish and disrespectful.


Wait, are we talking about "facts", or facts? Because Rachel generally has the latter on her side. But there are plenty of "facts" to go around.

Huelskamp didn't even have a coherent point in his ramblings, so I'm not sure what "facts" he could have conjured up to make any difference.
 
2014-01-30 10:26:22 AM  

The Larch: hand clutched over his heart flag pin


www.mindhuestudio.com
 
2014-01-30 10:28:49 AM  

The Larch:
I honestly imagine all the Republicans congressmen collecting together in a big auditorium each morning to go over each day's talking points.  This guy, standing proudly among his brethren, hand clutched over his heart flag pin, reciting "at the end of the day, his policies are failing, and that's why there are 24 million Americans looking for a job" twenty times each morning.  He says the mantra over and over again, until the words have the power to calm him.  The power to convince him that he's on the side of good.  The words have the power of truth.



Sort of like the Cop that screams "stop resisting" over and over as he beats your unconscious body with an ironwood Tonfa. Its just a chant that would accompany any ritualistic exercise.
 
2014-01-30 10:30:34 AM  

Bartman66: The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.

LOL
Gee.. you're right she is so "non-partisan" and equally focuses on both sides...lol
If you idiots believe that.. well.
SHe is just like that Fox / MSNBC etc.. "journalists" that put party ahead of news. WHile she might not be as bad as the Hannity's or Sharpton's out there and she is obviously very educated she stil has her view and slant that she puts out like all the rest.
Sorry if that offends you because you are on her side of the isle but that is just how it is.
But I am sure that her cheerleaders here will cry, rant and rave about how she is not..
// waiting for the always funny .."B-But truth has a "insert side" bias


Everyone has a bias.  That doesn't make them a cheerleader.

Welcome to humanity. Watch your step.
 
2014-01-30 10:31:22 AM  

someonelse: Cletus C.: Daily Kos leads with the race card and calls relatively benign and typically politically partisan tweets hate speech.

Isn't that just the cutest thing.

Yes, that is so much more disturbing than a member of Congress displaying deranged incoherence. You really cut to the heart of the issue there.


When liberals get all shrill it detracts from the issue, as well.
 
2014-01-30 10:32:02 AM  

Bartman66: The Larch: Bartman66: And when he called her out on being a cheerleader she got real mad...I guess the whole "facts" thing got herpissed.

In what way is it a "fact" that she is a cheerleader?  Be specific.

LOL
Gee.. you're right she is so "non-partisan" and equally focuses on both sides...lol
If you idiots believe that.. well.
SHe is just like that Fox / MSNBC etc.. "journalists" that put party ahead of news. WHile she might not be as bad as the Hannity's or Sharpton's out there and she is obviously very educated she stil has her view and slant that she puts out like all the rest.
Sorry if that offends you because you are on her side of the isle but that is just how it is.
But I am sure that her cheerleaders here will cry, rant and rave about how she is not..
// waiting for the always funny .."B-But truth has a "insert side" bias


Well. That was certainly informative, factual, and well-researched.
 
2014-01-30 10:34:01 AM  

Cletus C.: someonelse: Cletus C.: Daily Kos leads with the race card and calls relatively benign and typically politically partisan tweets hate speech.

Isn't that just the cutest thing.

Yes, that is so much more disturbing than a member of Congress displaying deranged incoherence. You really cut to the heart of the issue there.

When liberals get all shrill it detracts from the issue, as well.


So, the point you are making here, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that both sides are bad.
 
2014-01-30 10:34:35 AM  
Last night she referred to him as her "new friend."
 
2014-01-30 10:35:09 AM  
Look out, Folks... One of Fark's brave non-partisan independents is here to tell us both sides are bad.

*rolls eyes*
 
2014-01-30 10:35:44 AM  

someonelse: DrBenway: Note to self: Never EVER call Rachel Maddow a cheerleader.

I think she was aghast because she has been very critical of the Obama administration at times. For him to call her a cheerleader was just plain idiocy.


I think she was offended by the actual thought of being a cheerleader period.

www.arielbravy.com
 
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