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(Salt Lake Tribune)   40 elementary school students in Utah get an early lesson on adult problems when their lunches are taken from them and thrown away because of an outstanding meal account debt   (sltrib.com ) divider line
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2014-01-30 08:45:09 AM  
12 votes:

staplermofo: ytterbium: don't harm kids because of bad parenting

This is the attitude I can't stand.  Bad parenting hurts kids.  Virtually no amount of institutional asshattery can match bad or inadequate parenting's harm to children.  The idea that the school will always take care of the kids is way too trusted.  Mistakes happen, stuff is overlooked, whatever, but you should be on top of paying for your kid to eat. How the kid eats should be one of those things parents don't let slip.  The school screwed up, but the parents screwed up too.


A screw up is not having enough food to meet demand and some people go without.  A screw up is unintentional.  This was a deliberate misguided disciplinary action targeted at kids who had no power/will/ability to cause or rectify this situation on their own.  It was wrong because:
1)  Did NOTHING to alleviate or defray the costs of the food served previously
2)  Wasted the food, the state money used to purchase the food, the time of the personnel used to serve the food, and if/when the parents do pay, I highly doubt they will be refunded the costs of the food thrown away by the school they would have then rightfully purchased.
3)  When examined logically the end goal was to cause the children enough shame and humiliation to pressure the parents into paying up.  If they wanted to simply deal with the parents a letter, phone-call, email would have sufficed.

Their excuses for how it went down don't fly either TFA says they called some of the parents, and the person said they decided to withhold lunches to prove a point.  However they didn't know who did/didn't owe anything until after the food was given out.  They SHOULD have waited one more day after all the facts were established then.  But they didn't.  They SHOULD have waited until all the folks involved were called.  But they didn't.  If they were already delinquent several days then ONE more day isn't going to mean crap if it means getting your information together so that your ass is at least covered if nothing else.

This is bullshiat and the person(s) responsible and involved should be fired.  You can cite destruction of government property as the cause because that is literally what they did.  Its no different than me defacing someones parking spot if they don't pay their parking fee on time.
2014-01-30 02:41:53 AM  
7 votes:
It's unclear to me why children or families would be charged for lunch at a public school.

Like public schools themselves, these are public services which should be free to all. If you feel you'd rather bring your own lunch or attend a private school, then that is on you to find a way to pay for it. In the meantime, the public services are available to you.

If the school can't provide lunches to all with the current budget, then cut the lunches completely. Either all get lunches or none get lunches. This half-assed lunch program hurts the poor who need the lunches the most but are least able to pay.
2014-01-30 02:16:22 AM  
7 votes:
Self-import minor bureaucrat decides to make an impression by ripping lunch from the hands of young kids who can't defend themselves. He should have his career ripped out from under him and stuffed in the trash, but I'll bet it doesn't happen.
2014-01-30 09:21:13 AM  
5 votes:
Getting parents to pay for lunches and how to deal with those who do not are very real problems for schools, and there is no perfect solution. That being said, the douchetard in the article looked all of the options available to him/her and then chose the very worst one.

I kind of agree with the person above who suggested that we just make the lunches a part of the service provided, but then we would have to raise taxes slightly to increase school funding, and that's pretty much anathema in the US. I don't think that you can just cut the program, because you would have kids that would never come to school with a lunch, and we've decided as a society that letting school age children starve while under the care of the state is not acceptable. Just provide a baseline lunch for everyone, and do away with all of the complexity and inequality in our current farked-up system. Yes, it would cost more per student each day, but it would also save the schools and the federal government a shiatload of time and money currently spent managing a broken system.
2014-01-30 07:55:42 AM  
5 votes:
But cafeteria workers weren't able to see which children owed money until they had already received lunches, Olsen explained.  The workers then took those lunches from the students and threw them away, he said, because once food is served to one student it can't be served to another

That sure is one farked up lesson plan they've got there.  Nice "child nutrition management" too.
2014-01-30 02:36:49 AM  
5 votes:
Just like Jesus would do.
2014-01-30 08:47:31 AM  
4 votes:
Justice will be served when the name and picture of the clown responsible for this child abuse is posted here.
2014-01-30 08:17:03 AM  
4 votes:

staplermofo: log_jammin: shiat happens.

TO HORRIBLE PARENTS LIKE YOU, and your poor children, who should be raised by the state.
TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP OF YOUR LIFE!


Sometimes things like overtime hours at work, sick elderly parents and emergency vet visits while a spouse is out of town get in the way of remembering to send money to school. Like my week so far.

I got a polite call yesterday reminding me that my kids owe a few bucks for lunch. Check written, no big deal. I would raise major hell if they had food placed in front of them only to be dumped.

Parents who just don't pay should get a stern chat, don't harm kids because of bad parenting. For some kids, school lunch is all they get to eat. There is a federal free lunch program, sign them up.
2014-01-30 05:34:02 AM  
4 votes:

staplermofo: We aren't hard enough on crappy parents.
Pay for your kids' stuff!  Keep on top of stuff!  You have to look out for them!  Expecting the world to be nice to your kid is horrible parenting!  If you don't want a kid, put it up for adoption early!  Put more thought into teaching your kids to live in a crappy world than into making the world less crappy to your kids.


It's not as easy as you think.

we make our kid's lunches so we don't have to deal with this stuff, butt...turns out my son didn't like what we were making for him, and for a few days he would either throw his lunch away or "forget it" and get a school lunch. a few weeks later we get some mail saying we owed for his school lunches.

shiat happens.
2014-01-30 03:07:45 PM  
3 votes:
Subject: I was taught to never present a problem without offering helpful solutions.

Dear [Name of Director of Child Nutrition],

I was going to write you a nastygram: My outrage at publicly humiliating children who have done nothing wrong and wasting food momentarily outweighed my desire to help. Please forgive that urge. I do want to help you make sure this never happens again.

First, please ask parents to document the day they made payments and check that against the time your processor credited their child's account. You may be able to fire your processor for nonperformance, since the contract must contain a performance clause or three.  (Many of these processors have a, um, reputation for not crediting accounts for four days or so, and for charging excessive fees.)

Second, I suggest that you contact Dr. [RedactedinComplianceWithFarkPostingRules], who has had to resolve these kinds of issues for lunch programs in several of the school districts that he ran here in Arizona. His innovative approach lowered program costs, provided more fresh food, and served all of the children. You can reach him at (520) XXX-XXXX.  He does educational consulting from time to time, and since this is an issue that directly affects the children and their ability to learn, he'll be willing to help you resolve it.

Third, may I suggest that, since the reimbursement doesn't change your sunk costs, you just feed the child the hot lunch and not waste food in the future? This will likely save you future public embarrassment, condemnation, prevent accusations of cruelty to children, and lawsuits against your school district.

Fourth, would it be possible to fire the person responsible for the events that led to this with extreme prejudice? According to the district, not all of the parents had even been informed of deficiencies.

Sincerely,
demaL-demaL-yeH
2014-01-30 09:12:17 AM  
3 votes:
I started writing, and then deleted, about 4 different comments before deciding that mere words can't express how completely and totally f*cking moronic this is.
2014-01-30 09:07:50 AM  
3 votes:
http://www.slcschools.org/board-of-education/board-meetings/documents / 2011-08-02-Exhibit-A2.pdf

Meet the SLC elementary school nutrition manager. Bonus: contains her salary info.
2014-01-30 08:53:25 AM  
3 votes:
Would this school by chance have a high minority/disabled enrollment?  Much higher than the SLC norm?

checks....Oh my!  what a surprise!  Them chirruns must be uppity!
2014-01-30 08:43:33 AM  
3 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com
2014-01-30 08:41:59 AM  
3 votes:

vudukungfu: log_jammin: "We understand the feelings of upset parents and students who say this was an embarrassing and humiliating situation. We again apologize and commit to working with parents in rectifying this situation and to ensuring students are never treated in this manner again."

I'd think that they could stop taking already served lunches out of the hands of children all on their own, without the need to "work with" parents.

Yeah, insincere apologies are insincere.
School administrators and republicans are in the same boat.
They don't want logic taught at schools because it would be res ipsa loquitur that they are full of shiat every time they speak.
That's why they call it "Liberal" "Arts"


Thanks for bringing your stupid farking politics into the discussion. I can't tell if you're a troll or a farking moron.
2014-01-30 08:30:51 AM  
3 votes:
That's bullshiat.  That's humiliating.  I'm not one of those freaking snowflake type people either, but that sort of crosses the line.
2014-01-30 02:24:31 AM  
3 votes:
"We understand the feelings of upset parents and students who say this was an embarrassing and humiliating situation. We again apologize and commit to working with parents in rectifying this situation and to ensuring students are never treated in this manner again."

I'd think that they could stop taking already served lunches out of the hands of children all on their own, without the need to "work with" parents.
2014-01-30 11:43:59 AM  
2 votes:
No matter where you fall on this issue, the damn school wasted 40 lunches and taxes are paying for them if they were consumed or not.
2014-01-30 10:05:51 AM  
2 votes:
"Suffer the little children" means something else, I think.

/Yes, I know Jesus has been invoked already.
2014-01-30 09:39:35 AM  
2 votes:
themormonreligion.com
Because taking food from poor children is what Jesus would do right?

Fark you Utah!
2014-01-30 09:29:11 AM  
2 votes:
Seriously, is "Nutrition Manager" an ENTIRE FULL TIME JOB?

Why not fire those managers and pay for school lunches for everyone? It's win-win, except for the nutrition managers...
2014-01-30 09:25:38 AM  
2 votes:

LemSkroob: If poor people cant afford to pay for their rations, they shouldnt get any.


My issue was my mother made too much for me to get reduced or free meals, but not enough to actually afford the school lunches...see my solution for that in my post above. My senior year the policy changed and I was eligible for free meals. Sometimes the kids are in those situations because the parent makes 500 a year over the cutoff line. Sort of like folks who refuse pay raises because the extra 20 a month isn't worth losing 300 a month in benefits.
2014-01-30 09:04:25 AM  
2 votes:
I would like to see this person's credit card statement. Those Christmas presents you bought for your family and friends, they must be returned to the store now.
2014-01-30 08:56:24 AM  
2 votes:

FTFA: The district attempted to contact parents with balances via phone Monday and Tuesday, Olsen said, but weren't able to reach them all before the child-nutrition manager soulless corporate paymaster douchbag decided to take away the students' lunches.


FTFA

2014-01-30 08:50:31 AM  
2 votes:
I hope the school's Facebook page blows up, and the nutrition guy gets a chance to try to feed his family on government aid.
2014-01-30 08:49:17 AM  
2 votes:
I liked that part in the Bible when Jesus did the loaves & fishes bit and was all like "None of you paid for this, I'm throwing this miracle in yon dumpster. Blessed are the child-nutrition managers, for they starve the children."
2014-01-30 08:47:51 AM  
2 votes:
Who does that, take food away from hungry kids? Ugh. farking dickholes.
2014-01-30 08:41:43 AM  
2 votes:
FTA "Olsen said the district encourages parents to use its electronic system to pay for lunches and set up email notifications. "  What she doesn't tell you is once you put money in your kid's account it can take up to 4 days for the system to notify the school that the money is there.  Paypams can suck it.
2014-01-30 08:28:42 AM  
2 votes:

ytterbium: don't harm kids because of bad parenting


This is the attitude I can't stand.  Bad parenting hurts kids.  Virtually no amount of institutional asshattery can match bad or inadequate parenting's harm to children.  The idea that the school will always take care of the kids is way too trusted.  Mistakes happen, stuff is overlooked, whatever, but you should be on top of paying for your kid to eat. How the kid eats should be one of those things parents don't let slip.  The school screwed up, but the parents screwed up too.
2014-01-30 05:22:11 AM  
2 votes:
That will teach them not to waste food.
2014-01-30 05:09:25 AM  
2 votes:
We aren't hard enough on crappy parents.
Pay for your kids' stuff!  Keep on top of stuff!  You have to look out for them!  Expecting the world to be nice to your kid is horrible parenting!  If you don't want a kid, put it up for adoption early!  Put more thought into teaching your kids to live in a crappy world than into making the world less crappy to your kids.
2014-01-30 02:36:57 AM  
2 votes:
Cus the trash can turns the food back into money! F*cking retards. Pick up a goddamn phone.
2014-01-30 03:43:29 PM  
1 vote:
Don't stop them. Let them keep farking up. Let them keep punishing kids. This can only help them in the elections, right?
2014-01-30 03:16:24 PM  
1 vote:

DON.MAC: It could be worse.  Some idiot will now be listed as "child lunch stealer" on google for ever.  Nothing like stealing your own career.



Sounds like a perfect candidate for an Investment Bank
2014-01-30 01:43:08 PM  
1 vote:

mjohnson71: "If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding! "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?"


Ahhh, there it is. After four pages of posts I was getting worried about FARK.

/would have posted it myself eventually.
2014-01-30 12:49:59 PM  
1 vote:

TNel: Pangea: You apparently never learned the first rule of being a 1337 hax0r.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hacker+busted+for+bragging

I don't believe his story because all students get 1 account that is their unique student ID.  For him to have 4 accounts it would have to be his plus 3 of his friends.  Almost all accounts in the schools networks are admin accounts due to the nightmare of having to deal with "User" accounts in that kind of setting.  Group Policy would be pushed down to limit what you can and can't do.

So for his story to be true it you take an entire IT department to be so incompetant that it would be stuff of legends.


Know how I know you aren't an IT guy? A) No all accounts aren't Admin accounts. Hell even a retarded monkey wouldnt do that especially today when kids are tech savvy possibly more so that the 50 yr old local computer guy the cheap ass school system hired to be the admin. If what you say is true and they did set all accounts as admin all he would have to do is create a new account. Admins tend to be able to do things like that.  FYI Group policies are great and all but if you limit the account of an admin then psst it isn't an admin account any longer.
As to your last statement have you ever seen a high school's IT folks not reach that level of incompetence?  I mean really theres a reason they don't work in corporate IT environments.
2014-01-30 11:36:05 AM  
1 vote:
I work with a couple of bible banging "christians" and brought this up to them at our morning meeting a half hour ago.

I got exactly the response I expected.  Of course, they talked about how the parents should pay their bills and they are probably just a bunch of lazy democrats.  I swear, these people are so stereotypical.
2014-01-30 11:21:07 AM  
1 vote:
When I was 13, my mom had a really bad car accident. Really bad. She was in the hospital for more than six months. Then she was in a rehabilitation center for another six months. My dad would go to work. From work, he would go to the hospital. He'd stay there until 9:30 or 10 PM. You know what? He had a hard time thinking of a lot of things during that period, but he was not a bad dad. If I hadn't packed lunches for my dad, my little sister, and myself, there very well could have been days when we didn't have money for school lunches. Not because we didn't have enough money, but because there was a lot of stuff going on, and my dad was at a ragged edge.

Now, if someone at my little sister's school had been instructed to rip her lunch out of her hands and throw it into the garbage right in front of her and her classmates (because you know the other kinds are going to be as kind as children usually are about such things), I would not have looked kindly upon them. If they started harassing my dad, it would be a major issue.
2014-01-30 11:06:33 AM  
1 vote:
Gotta love the fact the state is using database software that only allows them to check the account balance AFTER a meal has been put together and scanned for purchase, putting the lunch supervisors in a position to throw away the food in front of the child or risk termination for disobeying protocol. Lunch supervisors are the absolute worst employees, technically, because they routinely break the rules:allowing students to take the food and owe money (not allowed) and distributing unused food to other employees instead of throwing it away(even worse by district standards.)

Fire the superintendent and all people involved in their computer/information office. Notepad makes for poor lunch database software, douchebags.

/Nation school district administration's guiding principle: W.W.Hitler D,
2014-01-30 11:02:16 AM  
1 vote:
ph# 801 578 8340.

Call today. They have "Child Nutrition Technician" positions open.  Maybe you too can be the one to snatch a kids lunch and trash it for the lulz.
2014-01-30 10:34:44 AM  
1 vote:

skeevy420: This right here is why I poked around on my school's network back in the day. Figured out the right Novell program to run, made me an administrator account, added my own funds to my lunch account, made backup user profiles (my official login was banned 50% of high school), backdoors so I could Kazaa and eMule(1999-2003 dammit) with T1 versus 56k, and more. To not get caught I'd add 5 or 10 bucks a month as well as selecting random accounts and increasing their funds.

Words of wisdom: if you only mess with your account and never add real cash you will be caught. Tweaking multiple accounts insures they'll think bug or glitch over hacker. Something, something, social engineering.

CSB
I was banned for a semester because I made every printer on campus print cuss words for hours on end banner style. A week later I had to type a paper for English. Teacher knew I was banned and told me to wait for someone to finish up and use their account (he thought the printer gag was funny). I told him I have multiple accounts and only the real one is banned, not my administrator ones. He laughed and said then go ahead and log in. I did, as an admin, where he just shook his head in disbelief and helped someone who couldn't remember the last 4 digets of their SSN (our passwords were first letter of last name + last 4 digits of SSN, j5488 for a made up example). He thought it was resourceful of me to make backup accounts because I knew I'd get in trouble eventually. I'm just glad I was never caught disabling the network for half the school (typing teacher was a coont biatch so all her labs went bye bye...and all the nodes past her...my bad) or disabling the keyword firewall. It took from 10th grade in March to 11th grade the following January for the back half of the network to go online....only to go down for four more months the following day. biatch had me banned from the network (a snitch told her I did the printer thing) and made me use a typewriter in the hall. Probably didn't help that I beat her son's ass either.


All of this sounds like bullshiat.
2014-01-30 10:30:48 AM  
1 vote:

jshine: baconbeard: So *is* USA a socialist country, or isn't it? I'm getting mixed messages.

There's no black-and-white answer to that question.  Some* services in the US are "socialized" (provided for the common good out of tax revenue), others are not.  Socialism is a continuum -- it's not binary.

/ * public education, fire service, national defense, air ports & air traffic control, the FDA & CDC, police service, public roads, some elements of major utility infrastructure, etc., etc.


Seem reasonable. The reason I asked is the impression I get is that the USA desperately wants (or needs) to become a socialist country, but people are adamantly against "socialism" if it helps someone other than themselves (which is kind of the entire point of socialism).
2014-01-30 10:19:44 AM  
1 vote:
DON.MAC:  He might have been the 1st US 1%er

As soon as there were 100+ people in the United States, there was a 1%er.
2014-01-30 10:13:04 AM  
1 vote:

Madame Ovary: Hoarf: FTA "Olsen said the district encourages parents to use its electronic system to pay for lunches and set up email notifications. "  What she doesn't tell you is once you put money in your kid's account it can take up to 4 days for the system to notify the school that the money is there.  Paypams can suck it.

Plus there is a surcharge for every deposit.


At my school we'd just give the lunch lady money and she'd add it to the account right then. We didn't have another way.

Any system that takes 4 days to add funds for children's food is ridiculous.
2014-01-30 10:12:01 AM  
1 vote:

baconbeard: So *is* USA a socialist country, or isn't it? I'm getting mixed messages.


Some people like Andrew Carnegie figured educating poor students meant that fewer of them were likely to stab you didn't think it was socialist at all.  He might have been the 1st US 1%er
2014-01-30 10:05:49 AM  
1 vote:

durbnpoisn: AverageAmericanGuy: It's unclear to me why children or families would be charged for lunch at a public school.

Like public schools themselves, these are public services which should be free to all. If you feel you'd rather bring your own lunch or attend a private school, then that is on you to find a way to pay for it. In the meantime, the public services are available to you.

If the school can't provide lunches to all with the current budget, then cut the lunches completely. Either all get lunches or none get lunches. This half-assed lunch program hurts the poor who need the lunches the most but are least able to pay.

This is all a very interesting point.  And it extends to further than just lunch.
I can't tell you how many times one of my kids have come to me to print something out, or cover a book, pay for a concert within the school (that one really makes no sense), or anything along those lines.

We pay the highest taxes in the country, and the majority of it goes to the schools.  So why do we have to pay even more for services that the school should be providing already?

That's a rhetorical question.  I know the answer.  The schools are mismanaged, and much of the administration is overpaid and unnecessary.  Do we really need 16 different Superintendants for 16 different sections of 16 seperate districts?  Why don't we combine them and have ONE to oversee them all?!  (just one example)


School administration insulates itself from consequences in the same way that Zapp Brannigan defeated "the rampaging horde of killbots"; just throw everyone below you to the wolves.
2014-01-30 10:00:54 AM  
1 vote:

AverageAmericanGuy: It's unclear to me why children or families would be charged for lunch at a public school.

Like public schools themselves, these are public services which should be free to all. If you feel you'd rather bring your own lunch or attend a private school, then that is on you to find a way to pay for it. In the meantime, the public services are available to you.

If the school can't provide lunches to all with the current budget, then cut the lunches completely. Either all get lunches or none get lunches. This half-assed lunch program hurts the poor who need the lunches the most but are least able to pay.


This is all a very interesting point.  And it extends to further than just lunch.
I can't tell you how many times one of my kids have come to me to print something out, or cover a book, pay for a concert within the school (that one really makes no sense), or anything along those lines.

We pay the highest taxes in the country, and the majority of it goes to the schools.  So why do we have to pay even more for services that the school should be providing already?

That's a rhetorical question.  I know the answer.  The schools are mismanaged, and much of the administration is overpaid and unnecessary.  Do we really need 16 different Superintendants for 16 different sections of 16 seperate districts?  Why don't we combine them and have ONE to oversee them all?!  (just one example)
2014-01-30 09:55:18 AM  
1 vote:
Not sure how it is in other countries but in the US "% of students getting free lunch" is pretty much the standard barometer for how the local community is doing economically.

Our school district has moved from 8% to 40% over the last 10 years.
2014-01-30 09:53:08 AM  
1 vote:
Smh. Why the fark isn't feeding the children included in the price of an education? What the fark is so hard about getting every child a textbook and a hot meal and what kind of piece of shiat would oppose that?
2014-01-30 09:41:19 AM  
1 vote:
Is cash flow that tight?  Are the federal lunch payments retroactive if the right form is sent in?

My grade school had cards and the lunch lady had a hole punch.  That worked well.
2014-01-30 09:40:37 AM  
1 vote:

DON.MAC: It could be worse.  Some idiot will now be listed as "child lunch stealer" on google for ever.  Nothing like stealing your own career.



It didn't harm Margaret Thatcher ......responsible for removing free school milk and forever after known as "Maggie Thatcher, milk snatcher" long before she ever became British PM
2014-01-30 09:32:36 AM  
1 vote:

Hoarf: FTA "Olsen said the district encourages parents to use its electronic system to pay for lunches and set up email notifications. "  What she doesn't tell you is once you put money in your kid's account it can take up to 4 days for the system to notify the school that the money is there.  Paypams can suck it.


We have online pay too, $4.50 fee per kid per transaction. Eff that.
2014-01-30 09:28:55 AM  
1 vote:

This About That: Turbo Cojones: http://www.slcschools.org/board-of-education/board-meetings/documents / 2011-08-02-Exhibit-A2.pdf

Meet the SLC elementary school nutrition manager. Bonus: contains her salary info.

Bingo! We can fix this problem right here on Fark. We have here THREE individuals in this school district with the job title "Nutrition Manager" and each gets paid slightly above poverty level. If these three jobs were combined, maybe the position could pay enough to attract someone with some brains who actually gives a damn about the kids and their nutrition. Seriously, is "Nutrition Manager" an ENTIRE FULL TIME JOB?



Isn't that just code for "Head Lunch Lady" or something?  Kinda like "Sanitation Engineer"...
2014-01-30 09:25:53 AM  
1 vote:

Turbo Cojones: http://www.slcschools.org/board-of-education/board-meetings/documents / 2011-08-02-Exhibit-A2.pdf

Meet the SLC elementary school nutrition manager. Bonus: contains her salary info.


Bingo! We can fix this problem right here on Fark. We have here THREE individuals in this school district with the job title "Nutrition Manager" and each gets paid slightly above poverty level. If these three jobs were combined, maybe the position could pay enough to attract someone with some brains who actually gives a damn about the kids and their nutrition. Seriously, is "Nutrition Manager" an ENTIRE FULL TIME JOB?
2014-01-30 09:03:48 AM  
1 vote:

This About That: Self-import minor bureaucrat decides to make an impression by ripping lunch from the hands of young kids who can't defend themselves. He should have his career ripped out from under him and stuffed in the trash, but I'll bet it doesn't happen.


After he's repeatedly kicked in the yam bag.
2014-01-30 08:58:21 AM  
1 vote:

Turbo Cojones: Would this school by chance have a high minority/disabled enrollment?  Much higher than the SLC norm?

checks....Oh my!  what a surprise!  Them chirruns must be uppity!


Or thugs!  I bet some of them are even uppity thugs!
2014-01-30 08:44:55 AM  
1 vote:

staplermofo: ytterbium: don't harm kids because of bad parenting

This is the attitude I can't stand.  Bad parenting hurts kids.  Virtually no amount of institutional asshattery can match bad or inadequate parenting's harm to children.  The idea that the school will always take care of the kids is way too trusted.  Mistakes happen, stuff is overlooked, whatever, but you should be on top of paying for your kid to eat. How the kid eats should be one of those things parents don't let slip.  The school screwed up, but the parents screwed up too.


Soooo, how many kids have you got?
2014-01-30 08:39:30 AM  
1 vote:
www.nachtkabarett.com

Ooo, there's another child that owes money.
2014-01-30 08:36:46 AM  
1 vote:

log_jammin: "We understand the feelings of upset parents and students who say this was an embarrassing and humiliating situation. We again apologize and commit to working with parents in rectifying this situation and to ensuring students are never treated in this manner again."

I'd think that they could stop taking already served lunches out of the hands of children all on their own, without the need to "work with" parents.


Yeah, insincere apologies are insincere.
School administrators and republicans are in the same boat.
They don't want logic taught at schools because it would be res ipsa loquitur that they are full of shiat every time they speak.
That's why they call it "Liberal" "Arts"
2014-01-30 08:00:07 AM  
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It looks like they have a whole department dedicated to stealing lunches.
2014-01-30 07:56:55 AM  
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DON.MAC: It could be worse.  Some idiot will now be listed as "child lunch stealer" on google for ever.  Nothing like stealing your own career.


This person sounds like a perfect candidate for "Child Protective Services".
2014-01-30 07:26:33 AM  
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It could be worse.  Some idiot will now be listed as "child lunch stealer" on google for ever.  Nothing like stealing your own career.
2014-01-30 06:01:28 AM  
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staplermofo: log_jammin: shiat happens.

TO HORRIBLE PARENTS LIKE YOU, and your poor children, who should be raised by the state.
TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP OF YOUR LIFE!


I'm getting on food stamps next week.
 
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