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(KTAR Phoenix)   Remember how in the State of the Union the President praised Costco for paying employees a higher than minimum wage? One employee would like to have a rebuttal   (ktar.com) divider line 281
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2014-01-30 11:43:17 AM
That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.
 
2014-01-30 11:46:39 AM
One employee anonymously complains about working for Costco? One? Couldn't get two, or five?

Must be true, then, Thanks, Bob McClay, fearless defender of freedom and the American way. I'll be canceling my Costco membership and shopping elsewhere for cheap booze and industrial sized disinfectant wipes.

Oh, who am I kidding. I can't quit you, Costco!
 
2014-01-30 11:48:47 AM

OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.


The day is young.
 
2014-01-30 11:53:25 AM

OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.


Same here.  And that's including the "Edward Snowden's psychic human ETs revealed" article.
 
2014-01-30 11:59:59 AM
This is bad...for Yelpbongo.
 
2014-01-30 12:02:33 PM

OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.


You didn't read the comments
 
2014-01-30 12:05:07 PM
So the gist is "Yeah, we get paid that much, but my particular store is poorly run and I hate it".

Welcome to the White House President Palin.
 
2014-01-30 12:05:46 PM

cato113: OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.

You didn't read the comments


fark is like the Algonquin Round Table compared to that.
 
2014-01-30 12:06:12 PM
"Sure, we start out at $11.50 per hour, but they work us really hard! And there's high turnover!"

Apparently this guy hasn't worked in other places, like Kmart, where they have the same problems but they pay you less.
 
2014-01-30 12:10:32 PM

Lando Lincoln: "Sure, we start out at $11.50 per hour, but they work us really hard! And there's high turnover!"

Apparently this guy hasn't worked in other places, like Kmart, where they have the same problems but they pay you less.


And most people who work there don't have those complaints, that I know of - around here, it's a desirable job for those without a lot of specialized skills and there is a waiting list to even get interviewed.
 
2014-01-30 12:16:18 PM
Boo farking hoo, yeah, retail and warehouse work is hard.

Always get a MUCH better vibe in Costco than Sam's.
 
2014-01-30 12:24:22 PM

OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.


I haven't commented on the story yet.

Yeah, that article was bad.  But the president is doing more to hurt his cause here.

First, he is showing that we don't need to raise the minimum wage to force companies to pay their workers more.  Here he shows CostCo willingly does pay their workers more without government intervention.  Kind of implodes the myth that big retailers don't care about their employees and will only pay them the bare minimum.  So it argues for not raising the minimum wage and let companies have the choice.

Second, Obama says $11.50 an hour still isn't enough.  Well, what is enough?  Where do you draw the line?  Is $12.50 enough?  Is $13.50 enough?  All of these numbers are very arbitrary.  Just like when this gov got involved in health care and thought they could do it smarter than the private sector and it blew up in their face, the same will happen here.  You can't just pick a number arbitrarily and expect everything to function smoothly.  Economies don't work like that.  Even at the current minimum wage figure, companies use illegals in a secondary black market to subvert those controls.  That problem will only get worse if the minimum wage is raised.
 
2014-01-30 12:24:42 PM

baka-san: Boo farking hoo, yeah, retail and warehouse work is hard.

Always get a MUCH better vibe in Costco than Sam's.


The Koi pond martini bar is what clinches it.
 
2014-01-30 12:25:40 PM

OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.


it's still early.
 
2014-01-30 12:26:25 PM

SlothB77: OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.

I haven't commented on the story yet.


I guess Oregonvet will have to update his statement, then.
 
2014-01-30 12:29:30 PM
Well son-of-a-biatch.  I was all for companies paying workers higher wages until I read an anonymous Costco worker explain that his job higher paying job was difficult.
 
2014-01-30 12:31:00 PM
Well.

There it is.

The stupidest farking thing I'll read all day.
 
2014-01-30 12:36:24 PM

SlothB77: First, he is showing that we don't need to raise the minimum wage to force companies to pay their workers more.


No, we do, since 99% of company owners would rather have their teeth removed with rusty pliers than give their workers a decent salary. The President was using Costco as a good example of how well and profitable a company can run when their workers are treated well to show the business world that it actually CAN be done. But they won't listen, because they'll just sit there in bed at night, thinking about all of that money they're pissing away by paying their workers more. "Who cares if my workers can afford to live moderately nicely now? I'm not as rich as my super rich neighbor, and that makes me sad!"
 
2014-01-30 12:38:24 PM

OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.

 
2014-01-30 12:40:42 PM
...I love you.
 
2014-01-30 12:41:26 PM
I'd like to anonymously complain about my employer. Is it too late? -- Edward "Blabbermouth" Snowden.
 
2014-01-30 12:42:10 PM

Lando Lincoln: "Sure, we start out at $11.50 per hour, but they work us really hard! And there's high turnover!"

Apparently this guy hasn't worked in other places, like Kmart, where they have the same problems but they pay you less.


it's been my experience that the amount you are worked is inversely proportional to the amount your are paid (for some reason)
 
2014-01-30 12:42:49 PM
WTF did I just read?
 
2014-01-30 12:43:34 PM
In other words, President Obama told the truth but one malcontent wants to let you know he doesn't like his job.  My advice is to go find another one that meets up with his discerning standards.
 
2014-01-30 12:43:39 PM

hardinparamedic: Well.

There it is.

The stupidest farking thing I'll read all day.


Careful - some farkers might take that as a challenge.
 
2014-01-30 12:44:51 PM
Er...what rebuttal?
 
2014-01-30 12:45:13 PM
That worker is most likely a millennial. They biatch and moan about having to get out of bed in the morning. I could feel some sympathy if he said he is having to work overtime with short pay, or say he actually wasn't getting the $11.50 an hour like they say he is. But he doesn't. Instead it is all "Blah, blah, blah. I have to actually do work and shiat. It's hard to have to earn my living and get paid for it."
 
2014-01-30 12:45:18 PM
"Yeah, they pay well, but they expect you to work for it.  Thanks, Obama."
 
2014-01-30 12:45:27 PM

bongmiester: Lando Lincoln: "Sure, we start out at $11.50 per hour, but they work us really hard! And there's high turnover!"

Apparently this guy hasn't worked in other places, like Kmart, where they have the same problems but they pay you less.

it's been my experience that the amount you are worked is inversely proportional to the amount your are paid (for some reason)

You're not the only one who's noticed that.  I worked far harder for $6.85 an hour than I did for $65,000 a year.
 
2014-01-30 12:45:29 PM

lennavan: Well son-of-a-biatch.  I was all for companies paying workers higher wages until I read an anonymous Costco worker explain that his job higher paying job was difficult.


Yeah, what is the world coming to if "hard-working Americans" have to work hard?
 
2014-01-30 12:47:13 PM
"While the store pays $11.50, he complained that Costco works its employees too hard. He said that his store has a high turnover rate and is understaffed, leading to a heavier work load for those that still work there. "

So they want hard workers and expect you to prove it?  Perhaps "earn" that 11.50?  This is certainly the worst thing in the history of things.
 
2014-01-30 12:47:15 PM
Obama: "Costco pays their employees $11.50/hour"

Rebuttal:  "True, but Costco makes their employees work hard"
 
2014-01-30 12:47:29 PM

cato113: OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.

You didn't read the comments


"As a stockholder of both Costco and Walmart I resent the hel* l out of this no good po s jerk, huesinne obammma, interfering with private enterprise, specifically, COST. This p. os has to be stopped. He's way the hel* l out of line. And, the republicans won't do anything about this jerk. WHY??"

Where in the hell is that asteroid?
 
2014-01-30 12:47:34 PM
They work you too hard?  Welcome to retail, pussy.
 
2014-01-30 12:47:40 PM
I should not have expected there to be a rational thought in that article
 
2014-01-30 12:47:40 PM
Costco serves a mid-to upper middle class customer base

Sams serves a low to low middle class customer base

That's why.

The question is if the president is stupid or disingenuous.  Probably the latter.
 
2014-01-30 12:48:06 PM
look man i tried being a cashier at costco but they wanted me to work

i mean i know they were paying a lot more than what other companies that offer similar work pay but that is no reason to create an environment that drives people to excel rather than just skate by

thanks obama
 
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2014-01-30 12:48:11 PM

Headso: cato113: OregonVet: That has to be the dumbest thing I read today.

You didn't read the comments

fark is like the Algonquin Round Table compared to that.


The average Fark post is like a doctoral thesis compared to the posts on most comment sections on the internet.
 
2014-01-30 12:48:55 PM

ndeans: That worker is most likely a millennial. They biatch and moan about having to get out of bed in the morning. I could feel some sympathy if he said he is having to work overtime with short pay, or say he actually wasn't getting the $11.50 an hour like they say he is. But he doesn't. Instead it is all "Blah, blah, blah. I have to actually do work and shiat. It's hard to have to earn my living and get paid for it."


And the chum goes into the water...
 
2014-01-30 12:49:14 PM

trippdogg: hardinparamedic: Well.

There it is.

The stupidest farking thing I'll read all day.

Careful - some farkers might take that as a challenge.


Too late...Sloth raised the bar for stupid today
 
2014-01-30 12:49:44 PM
Minimum wage should be $15/hr + healthcare.
 
2014-01-30 12:49:51 PM

bongmiester: Lando Lincoln: "Sure, we start out at $11.50 per hour, but they work us really hard! And there's high turnover!"

Apparently this guy hasn't worked in other places, like Kmart, where they have the same problems but they pay you less.

it's been my experience that the amount you are worked is inversely proportional to the amount your are paid (for some reason)


depends on the job. i got paid crap as a security guard, but i would hardly call it 'hard work'.

i did get a lot of walking in, when i was on swing shift... the building clocked out on a pedometer as something like six miles of walking from top to bottom(a full shift's worth of checks).
 
2014-01-30 12:49:57 PM
Why did you guys make me go back and read the comments?  That was frightening and cruel.

"I own shares in wal*mart and Costco, f*ck Obama for praising a company I own stock in!"
"F*ck republicans.  You're all c*nts"
 
2014-01-30 12:50:03 PM

rikdanger: One employee anonymously complains about working for Costco? One? Couldn't get two, or five?

Must be true, then, Thanks, Bob McClay, fearless defender of freedom and the American way. I'll be canceling my Costco membership and shopping elsewhere for cheap booze and industrial sized disinfectant wipes.

Oh, who am I kidding. I can't quit you, Costco!


Of course a Lib wouldn't care about 1 man left behind enemy lines. Costghazi!
 
2014-01-30 12:50:24 PM
Minimum wage needs to be tied to the COL. A hard number is a fool's errand.
 
2014-01-30 12:50:37 PM

Lando Lincoln: SlothB77: First, he is showing that we don't need to raise the minimum wage to force companies to pay their workers more.

No, we do, since 99% of company owners would rather have their teeth removed with rusty pliers than give their workers a decent salary. The President was using Costco as a good example of how well and profitable a company can run when their workers are treated well to show the business world that it actually CAN be done. But they won't listen, because they'll just sit there in bed at night, thinking about all of that money they're pissing away by paying their workers more. "Who cares if my workers can afford to live moderately nicely now? I'm not as rich as my super rich neighbor, and that makes me sad!"


Another way to look at it -- Costco pays a higher wage and as a result can be picky about who they hire and keep ("hard workers" to put it generally).  Why can't other employers do exactly the same thing?
 
2014-01-30 12:50:48 PM

MugzyBrown: Costco serves a mid-to upper middle class customer base

Sams serves a low to low middle class customer base

That's why.


Please elaborate. Are Sam's Club's wares geared towards lower class people?
 
2014-01-30 12:51:42 PM

AngryDragon: ndeans: That worker is most likely a millennial. They biatch and moan about having to get out of bed in the morning. I could feel some sympathy if he said he is having to work overtime with short pay, or say he actually wasn't getting the $11.50 an hour like they say he is. But he doesn't. Instead it is all "Blah, blah, blah. I have to actually do work and shiat. It's hard to have to earn my living and get paid for it."

And the chum goes into the water...


Millennials won't respond. That would be too much work.
 
2014-01-30 12:51:58 PM

Lando Lincoln: MugzyBrown: Costco serves a mid-to upper middle class customer base

Sams serves a low to low middle class customer base

That's why.

Please elaborate. Are Sam's Club's wares geared towards lower class people?


yes

especially lower class old people
 
2014-01-30 12:52:23 PM

Lando Lincoln: MugzyBrown: Costco serves a mid-to upper middle class customer base

Sams serves a low to low middle class customer base

That's why.

Please elaborate. Are Sam's Club's wares geared towards lower class people?


Owned by Walmart.  You do the math
 
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