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(Yahoo)   "Upscale" restaurants have nearly three times the calories and over twice the fat of McDonalds. Difficulty: Applebees and Chilis now qualify as "upscale"   (shine.yahoo.com) divider line 109
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2014-01-30 12:14:05 AM
Maybe where you live, subby, there are tons of choices for dinner. Maybe a bunch of little ethnic enclaves with small mom and pop restaurants where authentic food is prepared by people who barely speak English and the menus are all in a foreign language. Maybe your city attracts lots of top chef talent and restaurateurs who find ways to turn fresh market produce and meats into beautiful works of culinary art.

I know not what courses others may take, but as for me, give me Applebee's or give me death!
 
2014-01-30 12:23:13 AM
A sit-down meal at a restaurant that includes a split appetizer, an entrée, and one side can set you back an average of 1,494 calories

...


(FYI, a McDonald's Big Mac has a comparatively tame 550 calories, 10 grams of saturated fat, and 970 mg of sodium.)


so they're going to compare a full meal(without saying what the food actually is) with a sandwich.
 
2014-01-30 12:30:18 AM
I'm not surprised. Most classical cooking is heavy of cream, butter fat. And now the modern long simmered pork bellies. (Aka bacon slab).

But you're eating at the upscale place once a month or less. Heck go to a sushi bar..you'll spend 2times more and have more healthy food.
 
2014-01-30 12:32:17 AM
They should have a section of news devoted to things you'd already know if you cared about it, like how sports and finance have their own sections.
 
2014-01-30 12:48:53 AM

optikeye: I'm not surprised. Most classical cooking is heavy of cream, butter fat. And now the modern long simmered pork bellies. (Aka bacon slab).

But you're eating at the upscale place once a month or less. Heck go to a sushi bar..you'll spend 2times more and have more healthy food.


*You* probably have more healthy sushi.  I'm too fond of my tempura prawn and avocado rolls.
 
2014-01-30 01:20:01 AM
Considering that I used to do a foie gras pizza at Christopher's in Phoenix, yeah, it's not out of bounds to look at some items as being vastly higher in calories and fat. When you look at an Alfredo, you aren't looking at low calories, nor the same with a big ol' 18oz ribeye or T-bone.

Of course, you don't have to order those. Likewise, I have done roasted beet salads with a reduced balsamic, with candied pecans that can still blow your caloric budget, but it's up to you to order the healthier alternative, or splurge a little. I regret nothing for doing Scotch Eggs with greens and fried leeks. When you order a hard boiled egg, wrapped in sausage, breaded, and deep fried, you're not exactly looking at "low cal" food. On the other hand, I can do chayote that will make you weep, and is tender, sweet and very much low in calories.
 
2014-01-30 01:39:56 AM
Split entrees

My mom and I do this often when we go out. The Chinese place we frequent has a combo with fried rice, chow mein, fried shrimp and pork that gives us enough food to feed us both twice over for a little more than $10.


Wootan

Work off those extra calories with some chessboxing.
 
2014-01-30 01:54:23 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe where you live, subby, there are tons of choices for dinner. Maybe a bunch of little ethnic enclaves with small mom and pop restaurants where authentic food is prepared by people who barely speak English and the menus are all in a foreign language. Maybe your city attracts lots of top chef talent and restaurateurs who find ways to turn fresh market produce and meats into beautiful works of culinary art.

I know not what courses others may take, but as for me, give me Applebee's or give me death!


For some reason, I have you noted down as living in Japan.
 
2014-01-30 02:13:26 AM

HotWingAgenda: AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe where you live, subby, there are tons of choices for dinner. Maybe a bunch of little ethnic enclaves with small mom and pop restaurants where authentic food is prepared by people who barely speak English and the menus are all in a foreign language. Maybe your city attracts lots of top chef talent and restaurateurs who find ways to turn fresh market produce and meats into beautiful works of culinary art.

I know not what courses others may take, but as for me, give me Applebee's or give me death!

For some reason, I have you noted down as living in Japan.


Yeah, and going to Robot Restaurant tonight! Woo woo!
 
2014-01-30 02:33:27 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe where you live, subby, there are tons of choices for dinner. Maybe a bunch of little ethnic enclaves with small mom and pop restaurants where authentic food is prepared by people who barely speak English and the menus are all in a foreign language. Maybe your city attracts lots of top chef talent and restaurateurs who find ways to turn fresh market produce and meats into beautiful works of culinary art.

I know not what courses others may take, but as for me, give me Applebee's or give me death!


Im in like a 3rd rate city in flyover country and we have much better options than Applebee's/Chili's/Olive Garden etc.

About the onlything that chain garbage is as good as you are gonna do is seafood. Red Lobster is about as good as you are gonna do here. What do you expect in a land locked area?
 
2014-01-30 02:35:31 AM
Oh for fark sake, can we please stop with all this bullshiat? Restaurants are meant to be eaten at once in a while as a treat, not something you do daily. There is absolutely nothing wrong with splurging on the calories once or twice a month so long as you eat sensibly the rest of the time. The reason people are fat is because they stuff their face day in and day out, and they do that mostly at home.
 
2014-01-30 02:43:51 AM
If you cant handle those restaurants you're just a food snob anyway. It's been proven that how you percieve the quality of your food has a lot to do with presentation and where you think it comes from. Penn & Teller did a couple episodes of Bullshiat covering this. It's all in your head.
 
2014-01-30 02:52:25 AM

ReapTheChaos: Oh for fark sake, can we please stop with all this bullshiat? Restaurants are meant to be eaten at once in a while as a treat, not something you do daily. There is absolutely nothing wrong with splurging on the calories once or twice a month so long as you eat sensibly the rest of the time. The reason people are fat is because they stuff their face day in and day out, and they do that mostly at home.

 
2014-01-30 02:54:52 AM
Well, I will go to chilis, fridays can burn.
 
2014-01-30 02:55:25 AM

ReapTheChaos: Oh for fark sake, can we please stop with all this bullshiat? Restaurants are meant to be eaten at once in a while as a treat, not something you do daily. There is absolutely nothing wrong with splurging on the calories once or twice a month so long as you eat sensibly the rest of the time. The reason people are fat is because they stuff their face day in and day out, and they do that mostly at home.


The problem is a lot of people never learned to cook, so they eat crap out of a box (I'm talking TV dinners), or they do go out to eat constantly. I have one friend who I am convinced is going to die at or before 50 simply because she 'gets a stomach ache' when she eats real food like... vegetables. So she lives off cookies, takeout, mashed potatoes, mac & cheese, etc. It's horrifying to see what she considers every day food, and I expect her cholesterol is pretty bad since she's nearing 40.

You'd never know it to look at her, either, because she goes out to clubs to go dancing so that's her exercise.
 
2014-01-30 03:03:25 AM

ladyfortuna: ReapTheChaos: Oh for fark sake, can we please stop with all this bullshiat? Restaurants are meant to be eaten at once in a while as a treat, not something you do daily. There is absolutely nothing wrong with splurging on the calories once or twice a month so long as you eat sensibly the rest of the time. The reason people are fat is because they stuff their face day in and day out, and they do that mostly at home.

The problem is a lot of people never learned to cook, so they eat crap out of a box (I'm talking TV dinners), or they do go out to eat constantly. I have one friend who I am convinced is going to die at or before 50 simply because she 'gets a stomach ache' when she eats real food like... vegetables. So she lives off cookies, takeout, mashed potatoes, mac & cheese, etc. It's horrifying to see what she considers every day food, and I expect her cholesterol is pretty bad since she's nearing 40.

You'd never know it to look at her, either, because she goes out to clubs to go dancing so that's her exercise.


That's more than she never learned to cook....sounds like she never learned to *eat*.

What the hell was she fed as a child, nothing but Chef Boyardee and Swanson potpies?
 
2014-01-30 03:26:33 AM

Bonzo_1116: ladyfortuna: ReapTheChaos: Oh for fark sake, can we please stop with all this bullshiat? Restaurants are meant to be eaten at once in a while as a treat, not something you do daily. There is absolutely nothing wrong with splurging on the calories once or twice a month so long as you eat sensibly the rest of the time. The reason people are fat is because they stuff their face day in and day out, and they do that mostly at home.

The problem is a lot of people never learned to cook, so they eat crap out of a box (I'm talking TV dinners), or they do go out to eat constantly. I have one friend who I am convinced is going to die at or before 50 simply because she 'gets a stomach ache' when she eats real food like... vegetables. So she lives off cookies, takeout, mashed potatoes, mac & cheese, etc. It's horrifying to see what she considers every day food, and I expect her cholesterol is pretty bad since she's nearing 40.

You'd never know it to look at her, either, because she goes out to clubs to go dancing so that's her exercise.

That's more than she never learned to cook....sounds like she never learned to *eat*.

What the hell was she fed as a child, nothing but Chef Boyardee and Swanson potpies?


I'm somewhere in between never learned to eat and never learned to cook.  I rarely eat cookies and my "junk food" is mostly unsalted nuts and lightly salted chips.  I try to make sure I eat fruit and vegetables (some of which can be really tasty) but I also eat frozen microwave meals.  My idea of "cooking" is microwaving some frozen peas, boiling spaghetti and heating up sauce from a store-bought jar, making eggs or occasionally grilling a steak.

I'm trying to venture more into cooking but at least I'm not fat.
 
2014-01-30 03:31:57 AM
I rarely cook, but that's more because I live alone in an apartment with shiatty plumbing, a halfway broken stove, poor ventilation, and no automated dishwasher. I'm actually an amazing cook, but with the costs of all the extra cleaning supplies I need, the extra time involved, and the fact that even my smallest batches of food result in leftovers that I can't reheat without a microwave . . . meh. It's cheaper and easier to support my local small business cafes.
 
2014-01-30 03:42:48 AM

Oldiron_79: Red Lobster is about as good as you are gonna do here. What do you expect in a land locked area?


Because high-end sushi restaurants in New York are serving you hamachi from the East River...
 
2014-01-30 03:55:49 AM

The Smails Kid: Oldiron_79: Red Lobster is about as good as you are gonna do here. What do you expect in a land locked area?

Because high-end sushi restaurants in New York are serving you hamachi from the East River...


Id say the only thing you'd catxh from there is Coney island white fish.
 
2014-01-30 03:56:33 AM

The Smails Kid: Oldiron_79: Red Lobster is about as good as you are gonna do here. What do you expect in a land locked area?

Because high-end sushi restaurants in New York are serving you hamachi from the East River...


because a 3rd rate city in flyover country is New York.
 
2014-01-30 04:01:35 AM

log_jammin: The Smails Kid: Oldiron_79: Red Lobster is about as good as you are gonna do here. What do you expect in a land locked area?

Because high-end sushi restaurants in New York are serving you hamachi from the East River...

because a 3rd rate city in flyover country is New York.


Because plastics recycled in New York get used in the Dominican Republic.
 
2014-01-30 04:01:45 AM
Of course it is.  Chili's and the like are pretty much just McDonald's with a heavy cream sauce.
 
2014-01-30 04:05:35 AM

HotWingAgenda: I rarely cook, but that's more because I live alone in an apartment with shiatty plumbing, a halfway broken stove, poor ventilation, and no automated dishwasher. I'm actually an amazing cook, but with the costs of all the extra cleaning supplies I need, the extra time involved, and the fact that even my smallest batches of food result in leftovers that I can't reheat without a microwave . . . meh. It's cheaper and easier to support my local small business cafes.


No microwave? Man, that's roughing it. You can pick one up for $50.
 
2014-01-30 04:06:59 AM

HotWingAgenda: I rarely cook, but that's more because I live alone in an apartment with shiatty plumbing, a halfway broken stove, poor ventilation, and no automated dishwasher. I'm actually an amazing cook, but with the costs of all the extra cleaning supplies I need, the extra time involved, and the fact that even my smallest batches of food result in leftovers that I can't reheat without a microwave . . . meh. It's cheaper and easier to support my local small business cafes.


Very much this, well except the fact I have a fully working kitchen. After I add the time for shopping, prepping, cooking and cleanup it just isn't worth it to me.

I'd rather go out and get a nice chicken sandwich with fresh made fries cooked in duck fat, with a caesar salad, and than enjoy my farking day off.

Its hard cooking for one (forever alone...)
 
2014-01-30 04:24:19 AM

20/20: HotWingAgenda: I rarely cook, but that's more because I live alone in an apartment with shiatty plumbing, a halfway broken stove, poor ventilation, and no automated dishwasher. I'm actually an amazing cook, but with the costs of all the extra cleaning supplies I need, the extra time involved, and the fact that even my smallest batches of food result in leftovers that I can't reheat without a microwave . . . meh. It's cheaper and easier to support my local small business cafes.

No microwave? Man, that's roughing it. You can pick one up for $50.


It would have to go on the floor . . . not much in the way of counterspace, either.
 
2014-01-30 04:26:28 AM

staplermofo: Because plastics recycled in New York get used in the Dominican Republic.


*joke confusing the Dominican Republic with Jamaica*
 
2014-01-30 04:37:10 AM
I don't quite follow the reasoning of the study. If someone ate at McDonalds in the way as they might in a sit-down restaurant, ordering a starter, a main and a desert and a bottle of wine (smuggled in or drunk later) then most likely they'd consume a similar amount of calories. But I expect they don't and therefore eating patterns aren't that comparable.

There is no doubting though that portions in many restaurant chains are obscenely large, more so than they have any right to be. e.g. Cheesecake Factory serves such massive portions that they would feed 2 people no problem. Requiring them to disclose the calorie content on their menus would motivate them to cut the portion sizes and for people to be more informed about what they order.
 
2014-01-30 04:40:18 AM

HotWingAgenda: I rarely cook, but that's more because I live alone in an apartment with shiatty plumbing, a halfway broken stove, poor ventilation, and no automated dishwasher. I'm actually an amazing cook, but with the costs of all the extra cleaning supplies I need, the extra time involved, and the fact that even my smallest batches of food result in leftovers that I can't reheat without a microwave . . . meh. It's cheaper and easier to support my local small business cafes.


People were reheating leftovers long before microwaves were invented.
 
2014-01-30 04:43:38 AM
I remember going to stay with my sister a while, she was very anti-fast food because of it being "unhealthy" and she's go on about how it makes you fat, but then she'd go to these Village Inn type restaurants and order burgers and fried chicken for 3x the price of what the same thing would cost for fast food. And it was usually half as tasty.
 
2014-01-30 04:44:24 AM

Oldiron_79: The Smails Kid: Oldiron_79: Red Lobster is about as good as you are gonna do here. What do you expect in a land locked area?

Because high-end sushi restaurants in New York are serving you hamachi from the East River...

Id say the only thing you'd catxh from there is Coney island white fish.


The really good tuna caught in the Atlantic gets air-freighted to markets in Tokyo. It's auctioned, sold, and then air-freighted all over the world.

Including high-end sushi restaurants in Manhattan.

There's no reason you can't get good sushi anywhere in the country.  If you can't, you live in the cultural equivalent of a shiathole.
 
2014-01-30 04:54:49 AM
Why does this matter...when i eat at a fine restaurant I am not counting calories or anything else, all I want is flavor and a good experience.  If I am going to pay 100+ for a meal and spend several or more hours, it is not about the calories.  Moderation is the key....once a year I attend an over the top 15 course meal that lasts over 5 hours....guessing 15000 calories or more, but again don't care, any meal is fine in moderation.
 
2014-01-30 05:02:41 AM

HotWingAgenda: 20/20: HotWingAgenda: I rarely cook, but that's more because I live alone in an apartment with shiatty plumbing, a halfway broken stove, poor ventilation, and no automated dishwasher. I'm actually an amazing cook, but with the costs of all the extra cleaning supplies I need, the extra time involved, and the fact that even my smallest batches of food result in leftovers that I can't reheat without a microwave . . . meh. It's cheaper and easier to support my local small business cafes.

No microwave? Man, that's roughing it. You can pick one up for $50.

It would have to go on the floor . . . not much in the way of counterspace, either.


Obviously, a microwave isn't a priority, or you would find a way to make it work. Mine sits on a board that's supported by two sturdy brackets attached to the wall studs.

Your other reasons for not cooking more are puzzling. What "extra cleaning supplies" do you need? A plastic scrubber and a bottle of dishwashing soap will set you back $5. Extra time? How much time do you spend walking or driving to your local cafes and waiting for your order? Cheaper and easier to support your local cafes? I'm pretty sure that eating out just about anywhere can cost at least twice as much as doing it yourself.
 
2014-01-30 05:07:02 AM
The uniformity in this country of 350 million blows me away.
 
2014-01-30 05:15:41 AM

20/20: HotWingAgenda: 20/20: HotWingAgenda: I rarely cook, but that's more because I live alone in an apartment with shiatty plumbing, a halfway broken stove, poor ventilation, and no automated dishwasher. I'm actually an amazing cook, but with the costs of all the extra cleaning supplies I need, the extra time involved, and the fact that even my smallest batches of food result in leftovers that I can't reheat without a microwave . . . meh. It's cheaper and easier to support my local small business cafes.

No microwave? Man, that's roughing it. You can pick one up for $50.

It would have to go on the floor . . . not much in the way of counterspace, either.

Obviously, a microwave isn't a priority, or you would find a way to make it work. Mine sits on a board that's supported by two sturdy brackets attached to the wall studs.

Your other reasons for not cooking more are puzzling. What "extra cleaning supplies" do you need? A plastic scrubber and a bottle of dishwashing soap will set you back $5. Extra time? How much time do you spend walking or driving to your local cafes and waiting for your order? Cheaper and easier to support your local cafes? I'm pretty sure that eating out just about anywhere can cost at least twice as much as doing it yourself.


The feeble attempt at rationalization was lame.
You can't or don't want to cook, just admit it. It's OK to eat out.
 
2014-01-30 05:16:08 AM

Bonzo_1116: That's more than she never learned to cook....sounds like she never learned to *eat*.

What the hell was she fed as a child, nothing but Chef Boyardee and Swanson potpies?


It's possible. Her dad is an abusive POS (mostly emotional) and her mom is in denial/enables him; from her descriptions I've never heard mention of any serious cooking for family gatherings, only going out to restaurants.

My friend is pretty much the only salvageable member of the family and she's still got a ways to go in some areas.
 
2014-01-30 05:16:18 AM
Well, they are certainly higher on the scale, which does make them upscale from mcdonalds.
 
2014-01-30 05:16:26 AM

20/20: Cheaper and easier to support your local cafes? I'm pretty sure that eating out just about anywhere can cost at least twice as much as doing it yourself.


Yes you can 'eat' or 'survive' for less at home, but a well made meal with great ingredients is almost never cheaper at home, and yes...I cook at home 95% of the time because I have a hard time finding the quality that I want when I eat out (mainly the poor excuse for service and the general lack of work ethic).
 
2014-01-30 05:17:57 AM

I sound fat: upscale from mcdonalds.


Eating from the trash can behind the gas station is more upscale than McDonalds.
 
2014-01-30 05:21:50 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe where you live, subby, there are tons of choices for dinner. Maybe a bunch of little ethnic enclaves with small mom and pop restaurants where authentic food is prepared by people who barely speak English and the menus are all in a foreign language. Maybe your city attracts lots of top chef talent and restaurateurs who find ways to turn fresh market produce and meats into beautiful works of culinary art.

I know not what courses others may take, but as for me, give me Applebee's or give me death!


Your comment and your username work together so well it makes me wonder if it;s a theme based post, who's theme is that you are the Average American Guy. If so, well done. If not... you have poor tastes.
 
2014-01-30 05:25:51 AM

staplermofo: They should have a section of news devoted to things you'd already know if you cared about it, like how sports and finance have their own sections.


I wonder what it's like to own a sports team and not actually care *at all* about sports, but use the team as a vehicle to make more money. I'd wager that there have to be at least a few team owners that are only in it for the money. Further, I wonder if taking the viewpoint of only trying to make money makes for a more winning or more losing team.
 
2014-01-30 05:26:22 AM

solitary: The uniformity in this country of 350 million blows me away.


I blame the suburbs. But then again, I blame them for most things.

Also, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT or American Way or something.

/rock flag & eagle
 
2014-01-30 05:33:19 AM

ladyfortuna: ReapTheChaos: Oh for fark sake, can we please stop with all this bullshiat? Restaurants are meant to be eaten at once in a while as a treat, not something you do daily. There is absolutely nothing wrong with splurging on the calories once or twice a month so long as you eat sensibly the rest of the time. The reason people are fat is because they stuff their face day in and day out, and they do that mostly at home.

The problem is a lot of people never learned to cook, so they eat crap out of a box (I'm talking TV dinners), or they do go out to eat constantly. I have one friend who I am convinced is going to die at or before 50 simply because she 'gets a stomach ache' when she eats real food like... vegetables. So she lives off cookies, takeout, mashed potatoes, mac & cheese, etc. It's horrifying to see what she considers every day food, and I expect her cholesterol is pretty bad since she's nearing 40.

You'd never know it to look at her, either, because she goes out to clubs to go dancing so that's her exercise.


Have you expressed your concerns that you expect your friend to be dead in 10 years?
That sounds kind of depressing, and if she actually DID do herself in over the next decade and you didn't do or say anything to help, you'd feel pretty shiatty.
 
2014-01-30 05:47:36 AM
I gladly risk my health and wallet to know that I can get my Awesomely Outrageous Southwestern Pizza Fingers slathered in Donkey Sauce before I tear into my Nine-Cheese Chicken with the side of Grilled Vegetables (with the Thousand Island Dressing Cannon set on "Peter North") and wash it all down with my Triple-Iced Mudslide-A-Rita all served by a waitress who once gave a break room handy to the bass player from the Goo Goo Dolls.
 
2014-01-30 06:07:00 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Maybe where you live, subby, there are tons of choices for dinner. Maybe a bunch of little ethnic enclaves with small mom and pop restaurants where authentic food is prepared by people who barely speak English and the menus are all in a foreign language. Maybe your city attracts lots of top chef talent and restaurateurs who find ways to turn fresh market produce and meats into beautiful works of culinary art.

I know not what courses others may take, but as for me, give me Applebee's or give me death!


Here's my Applebee's story. Happened a couple of weeks ago:

A friend and I went there for lunch. We had appetizers, each of us had an entree, and my dinner companion drank water. I had two tall Stella Artois (pronounced "ar-toys" by the server, but I digress). Total came to about $45.00. We left a $15.00 cash tip, and I put the meal on my card. Put a line with a "0" on the tip line of the card receipt. The next day, checking my account, I discovered that an 18% tip had been arbitrarily added to my tab. I e-mailed the corporate office to complain, and that Saturday evening (!) got a call from one of their representatives. The tip was duly taken off, and I assume someone or other got reprimanded. (From what I've heard from people who've worked there, managers get a cut of the wait staff's gratuities, so who knows who actually did the deed.)

I've since found that this is not an uncommon experience among Applebee's patrons, which I no longer number myself among.
 
2014-01-30 06:09:42 AM

I sound fat: Well, they are certainly higher on the scale, which does make them upscale from mcdonalds.


That took far too long. It's like referring to everything above sea level as "high"
 
2014-01-30 06:11:50 AM

mike_d85: I sound fat: Well, they are certainly higher on the scale, which does make them upscale from mcdonalds.

That took far too long. It's like referring to everything above sea level as "high"


In california, Washington and Colorado... aren't they all high?
 
2014-01-30 06:13:04 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves -My favorites list, welcome to it.
 
2014-01-30 06:20:58 AM
not totally on topic, but...

so I'm at the store looking to buy some ketchup, and in the section with the ketchup I see a couple of white bottles in the sea of red. It Hidden Valley Ranch dressing, with the label "the new ketchup!".

I turn the bottle around and see it was about 100 calories per serving. I then turn my bottle of ketchup around and read 25 calories per serving.

I then look around at all the fatties around me, then down at my gut that was 40lbs heavier awhile back, and just shake my head.
 
2014-01-30 06:26:31 AM
What's with all the white-knighting of McDonald's?  I will acknowledge they're singled out for some weird reason, but news flash: almost all restaurants are bad for you.  About the only exception is sushi, and that's terribad for the planet (unless you stick to avacado rolls, I guess).

In any case, the real problem with McDonald's "food" isn't so much what it is as what it isn't.  The stuff is edible, but since it's highly processed, it's not very nourishing.  You can manage the calories by eating less, but the salads (mostly iceberg lettuce) are nutritionally worthless, the bun stripped of fiber and every drink except coffee and water is sweetened, so it's basically a test of willpower to stop -- and that's pretty much by design.  The stuff that actually fills you up, like cheese & bacon?  That's extra.  They make the food as empty as possible, then blame their customers when they can't stop eating.  Some people can manage their intake, but there's reams of evidence just walking through a Wal-mart that most people can't.
 
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