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2014-01-30 12:07:41 AM

Boo_Guy: Some cops used to go their whole career without drawing or firing a gun,  these days it seems like they're just itching to pull the trigger.

I wonder if it would have been better to just put the dog down,  it looks like it took some pretty nasty trauma.

/poor dog


Since being a "gun enthusiast" is a prerequisite for becoming a cop these days, expect more and more of this. These guys really want to prove they're a hero by shooting something.
 
2014-01-30 12:09:29 AM

doglover: Uchiha_Cycliste: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Uchiha_Cycliste: teenage mutant ninja rapist: doglover: The pregnant mother is irrelevant.

The cop shot a dog on its own property. He(the cop) is three kind of crazy killer and ten kinds of chickenshiat pussy. At least the dog survived, but seriously this cop is the Dorner.

Dont sully the good saint dorners name by comparing him to this arsehole. Atleast dorner went for other cops, not animals.

Bull shiat, he killed a bunch of innocent people in his rampage starting with a twenty something year old girl and her husband. You really think he was a good guy?

A good guy nope, but I also dont think people have looked at the LAPD the same since. Kind of a necessary evil if you will.
The LAPD did more damage to the public than he did.

No, they didn't. They may have shot at folks but he certainly killed more innocent and undeserving people than they did.

He killed two innocent people and a deputy, who doesn't count as an innocent because they were exchanging fire. Even if we count him, that's still only 3 innocents and a couple wounds.

LAPD causes more deaths than that per year. And usually, they waste a lot more bullets to do it, too. So not only do they donmore harm, but they do it poorly.


I think you are unfairly comparing apples and oranges, by looking at all of LAPD for all time and Dorner for only a small period. A fair comparison (in my mind) would be to compare the LAPD and Dorner for only the span of time that he was on his murder spree.  Otherwise it's like saying pope Benedict did less damage than the Spanish Inquisition.
 
2014-01-30 12:09:35 AM

Yogimus: MartinaMcSorley: Yogimus: Expectant mother Jessica Cabrera now has a new reason to hate Mondays. Two weeks ago, the gate to her backyard in Sun Valley, Calif. was somehow left open


PUCK YOU, YOU KILLED YOUR OWN DOGS

I've had utility guys leave my side gate open.  The neighbor's kids once left the same gate open (they went into the back yard to get a ball that had come over the fence.)  Once, my front door blew open in a wind storm.  My dogs got out all three times and went to my friend's house a block away, where we have walked (on a leash) many times.  My friends had someone try to break into their house, leaving their side gate open and letting their dog escape.

I have controlled for the gate issues by locking my gates.  Utility guys and the neighbor's kids can wait for me to be home to have access to my yard.  The windstorm blowing open my front door....what ya gonna do?  Sometimes shiat happens.

My dogs getting out and being hit by a car, or being shot by a badged goon, is a haunting fear for me.  Perhaps instead of criticizing pet owners for being unable to prevent all earthly contingencies in the effort to keep their animals contained, we could, at minimum, expect cops not to shoot non-aggressive pets who are on their own properties.

Cop gets called for loose dog. Sees loose animal. Animal "peacefully" approaches cop. Cop sees animal charge him, does NOT know that the dog lives there, it is LOOSE as in NOT fenced in or tied up.

YOU KILLED TOUR DOG.  If a dog, over 40lb runs at me, and I am carrying, I will shoot that dog without feeling bad, and charge you for the bullet


Ladies and gentlemen, your "responsible gun owner."
 
2014-01-30 12:12:28 AM

kortex: mooseyfate: kortex: Pitbulls are an extremely dangerous breed that shouldn't be allowed to be bred. Children, adults and other pets are all at risk of attack. I see nothing wrong with what the officers did except that they didn't put it down for good.

Trolls don't even farking try anymore, this shiat is just sad.

Not trolling son.  I've shot three pitbulls for coming after our cats.  I'm sorry that you live in a sheltered world where pitbulls are cuddly doggies.


What are your cats doing outside?
 
2014-01-30 12:23:06 AM

GoldSpider: Boo_Guy: Some cops used to go their whole career without drawing or firing a gun,  these days it seems like they're just itching to pull the trigger.

I wonder if it would have been better to just put the dog down,  it looks like it took some pretty nasty trauma.

/poor dog

Since being a "gun enthusiast" is a prerequisite for becoming a cop these days, expect more and more of this. These guys really want to prove they're a hero by shooting something.


I'm really hoping the pendulum swings the other way soon,  back to the officer friendly / Andy Griffin type cops but I'm really doubting it.  They probably never really existed to begin with.

I'd settle for them actually being held accountable for when they really fark-up.  Start charging these guys when the shiat hits the fan.


In my world cops would need to have insurance to work,  like doctors so if they lose it then they're done being a cop anywhere.

The other would be holding them to a higher standard with larger fines and sentences when they break laws since they are supposed to be upholding and enforcing them.

/I'll start creating my world when my Oculus Rift comes in the mail
 
2014-01-30 12:23:40 AM

GoldSpider: kortex: mooseyfate: kortex: Pitbulls are an extremely dangerous breed that shouldn't be allowed to be bred. Children, adults and other pets are all at risk of attack. I see nothing wrong with what the officers did except that they didn't put it down for good.

Trolls don't even farking try anymore, this shiat is just sad.

Not trolling son.  I've shot three pitbulls for coming after our cats.  I'm sorry that you live in a sheltered world where pitbulls are cuddly doggies.

What are your cats doing outside?


Well, it's obviously too dangerous inside, what with their owner always  shooting at houseflies and such.
/presumably his neighbors in unshelteredworld will shoot the cats for going after birds and mice//it's the ciiiiiiircle of guuuuunnnnnss

Uchiha_Cycliste: Otherwise it's like saying pope Benedict did less damage than the Spanish Inquisition.


That would be crazy!
 
2014-01-30 12:24:57 AM

PolyHatSnake: doglover: aseras: If a cop or anyone ever shoots one if my dogs, the video I make of their slow death will be the best liveleak or YouTube video ever. They will wish the sarlacc pit existed.

"The Iceman", famous serial killer cum hitman, claimed to have tied people up and left them in abandoned caves with a camcorder running. After a few minutes, rats would come and start to feed on the person, who couldn't break their bonds. The screaming would last for hours, he said. He, a psychotic serial killer, said it disturbed him to see those videos.

I've read many inventive horrors in fiction, but that interview is allegedy true and takes the whole damn cake.

Wait wait stop!
How do you train rats to eat people who are tied up in caves?

...cause I got a few candidates in mind...


I believe "The Iceman" also turned out to be a pathological liar.
 
2014-01-30 12:31:17 AM

Dwight_Yeast: PolyHatSnake: doglover: aseras: If a cop or anyone ever shoots one if my dogs, the video I make of their slow death will be the best liveleak or YouTube video ever. They will wish the sarlacc pit existed.

"The Iceman", famous serial killer cum hitman, claimed to have tied people up and left them in abandoned caves with a camcorder running. After a few minutes, rats would come and start to feed on the person, who couldn't break their bonds. The screaming would last for hours, he said. He, a psychotic serial killer, said it disturbed him to see those videos.

I've read many inventive horrors in fiction, but that interview is allegedy true and takes the whole damn cake.

Wait wait stop!
How do you train rats to eat people who are tied up in caves?

...cause I got a few candidates in mind...

I believe "The Iceman" also turned out to be a pathological liar.



This is the worst Top Gun sequel ever.
 
2014-01-30 12:40:03 AM

Dwight_Yeast: PolyHatSnake: doglover: aseras: If a cop or anyone ever shoots one if my dogs, the video I make of their slow death will be the best liveleak or YouTube video ever. They will wish the sarlacc pit existed.

"The Iceman", famous serial killer cum hitman, claimed to have tied people up and left them in abandoned caves with a camcorder running. After a few minutes, rats would come and start to feed on the person, who couldn't break their bonds. The screaming would last for hours, he said. He, a psychotic serial killer, said it disturbed him to see those videos.

I've read many inventive horrors in fiction, but that interview is allegedy true and takes the whole damn cake.

Wait wait stop!
How do you train rats to eat people who are tied up in caves?

...cause I got a few candidates in mind...

I believe "The Iceman" also turned out to be a pathological liar.


Which is why I couched my post with qualifiers.

He was insane though.
 
2014-01-30 12:41:43 AM
I believe a quick Google search for "yogimus" and clicking on his photobucket page will answer everyone's questions about him.
 
2014-01-30 12:43:30 AM

GoldSpider: Yogimus: MartinaMcSorley: Yogimus: Expectant mother Jessica Cabrera now has a new reason to hate Mondays. Two weeks ago, the gate to her backyard in Sun Valley, Calif. was somehow left open


PUCK YOU, YOU KILLED YOUR OWN DOGS

I've had utility guys leave my side gate open.  The neighbor's kids once left the same gate open (they went into the back yard to get a ball that had come over the fence.)  Once, my front door blew open in a wind storm.  My dogs got out all three times and went to my friend's house a block away, where we have walked (on a leash) many times.  My friends had someone try to break into their house, leaving their side gate open and letting their dog escape.

I have controlled for the gate issues by locking my gates.  Utility guys and the neighbor's kids can wait for me to be home to have access to my yard.  The windstorm blowing open my front door....what ya gonna do?  Sometimes shiat happens.

My dogs getting out and being hit by a car, or being shot by a badged goon, is a haunting fear for me.  Perhaps instead of criticizing pet owners for being unable to prevent all earthly contingencies in the effort to keep their animals contained, we could, at minimum, expect cops not to shoot non-aggressive pets who are on their own properties.

Cop gets called for loose dog. Sees loose animal. Animal "peacefully" approaches cop. Cop sees animal charge him, does NOT know that the dog lives there, it is LOOSE as in NOT fenced in or tied up.

YOU KILLED TOUR DOG.  If a dog, over 40lb runs at me, and I am carrying, I will shoot that dog without feeling bad, and charge you for the bullet

Ladies and gentlemen, your "responsible gun owner."


Yep, the ultimate solution to the "responsible dog owner".
 
2014-01-30 12:43:53 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: GoldSpider: kortex: mooseyfate: kortex: Pitbulls are an extremely dangerous breed that shouldn't be allowed to be bred. Children, adults and other pets are all at risk of attack. I see nothing wrong with what the officers did except that they didn't put it down for good.

Trolls don't even farking try anymore, this shiat is just sad.

Not trolling son.  I've shot three pitbulls for coming after our cats.  I'm sorry that you live in a sheltered world where pitbulls are cuddly doggies.

What are your cats doing outside?

Well, it's obviously too dangerous inside, what with their owner always  shooting at houseflies and such.
/presumably his neighbors in unshelteredworld will shoot the cats for going after birds and mice//it's the ciiiiiiircle of guuuuunnnnnssUchiha_Cycliste: Otherwise it's like saying pope Benedict did less damage than the Spanish Inquisition.

That would be crazy!


yup totally crazy go nuts.
 
2014-01-30 12:47:40 AM

Yogimus: YOU KILLED TOUR DOG. If a dog, over 40lb runs at me, and I am carrying, I will shoot that dog without feeling bad, and charge you for the bullet


You must not have grown up around dogs.  I know the difference between a dog being agressive and being friendly.

PaLarkin: Where did you get this silly notion that being a high school graduate is a requirement for being a cop in the US?


Source that says some department will hire you without even a GED?
 
2014-01-30 12:48:46 AM

bunner: So what have we learned?

Cops shooting innocent people, pets and bystanders is becoming not only prolix, but clichè.

Some people will try and affect their squinty, "ah you don't know nothin' " authority pose to defend this.

This happens in spite of every day people noticing that the pooch has a huge dick in it's ass.  The questions is, why?  What do they hope to gain as far as forbearance from a violent, insular culture that has openly displayed their complete disdain for anybody that doesn't have the same costume?


It's obvious isn't it? Cops get off on it. They were bullies in school. they were too stupid to get a four year degree and not restrained enough to be PE teachers, so they became cops. The last legitimate means to bully everyone all the time. And where better to be a super bully than the LAPD?
 
2014-01-30 12:52:51 AM

Firethorn: You must not have grown up around dogs. I know the difference between a dog being agressive and being friendly.


Oh, I know the difference. I just don't give a flying dickweasel if your dog is rushing to lick me or to attack.


/I used to "catch" K9-s for uncle sam, I have a healthy respect to what a pooch can do. That respect dictates the results.
 
2014-01-30 12:54:40 AM
Uchiha_Cycliste:It's obvious isn't it?

Like the balls on a tall dog.
 
2014-01-30 12:55:55 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Please, people, don't call cops "Pigs" in this thread.

Swine have a purpose, provide us with tasty bacon, ham, and chops, can be cute when they're little, or roasted over a fire.

Cops are usually just power mad assholes who want reasons to kill something and serve no purpose.

So, please, don't insult the pigs.


Seconded!  Plus, pigs are highly intelligent critters whereas most (not all) cops are NOT very smart.  In fact, police departments are allowed by law to reject applicants who score too high on the intelligence exam.
 
2014-01-30 01:03:35 AM

Yogimus: Uncle Bester: Yogimus: MartinaMcSorley: Yogimus: Expectant mother Jessica Cabrera now has a new reason to hate Mondays. Two weeks ago, the gate to her backyard in Sun Valley, Calif. was somehow left open


PUCK YOU, YOU KILLED YOUR OWN DOGS

I've had utility guys leave my side gate open.  The neighbor's kids once left the same gate open (they went into the back yard to get a ball that had come over the fence.)  Once, my front door blew open in a wind storm.  My dogs got out all three times and went to my friend's house a block away, where we have walked (on a leash) many times.  My friends had someone try to break into their house, leaving their side gate open and letting their dog escape.

I have controlled for the gate issues by locking my gates.  Utility guys and the neighbor's kids can wait for me to be home to have access to my yard.  The windstorm blowing open my front door....what ya gonna do?  Sometimes shiat happens.

My dogs getting out and being hit by a car, or being shot by a badged goon, is a haunting fear for me.  Perhaps instead of criticizing pet owners for being unable to prevent all earthly contingencies in the effort to keep their animals contained, we could, at minimum, expect cops not to shoot non-aggressive pets who are on their own properties.

Cop gets called for loose dog. Sees loose animal. Animal "peacefully" approaches cop. Cop sees animal charge him, does NOT know that the dog lives there, it is LOOSE as in NOT fenced in or tied up.

YOU KILLED TOUR DOG.  If a dog, over 40lb runs at me, and I am carrying, I will shoot that dog without feeling bad, and charge you for the bullet

no, here's the thing,troll.

There are things called 'dogcatchers' that are tasked with capturing loose or problem animals.
If your pet escapes from your property for some reason but does not cause physical harm to others it does not warrant a gottdam death sentence.

I didn't issue the death sentence. YOU did when you let the dog run loose and unsupervised.



Gosh golly, I'm glad we have people like you in the world - people who never make mistakes. So glad almost everyone is just like that so we don't have to worry about being reasonable or civilized whatsoever! Because hardly anyone ever makes a mistake ever, so even the slightest one is all the justification we need to act like a barbarous asshole.
 
2014-01-30 01:04:05 AM

almostsane: FirstNationalBastard: Please, people, don't call cops "Pigs" in this thread.

Swine have a purpose, provide us with tasty bacon, ham, and chops, can be cute when they're little, or roasted over a fire.

Cops are usually just power mad assholes who want reasons to kill something and serve no purpose.

So, please, don't insult the pigs.

Seconded!  Plus, pigs are highly intelligent critters whereas most (not all) cops are NOT very smart.  In fact, police departments are allowed by law to reject applicants who score too high on the intelligence exam.


Cops, Firemen and recidivist criminals have, for decades, sat the MMPPI as a matter of course.

Do you know what they found out?  Cops and criminals are essentially the same people, except cops are just a wee bit smarter than career criminals.  Not much, just a bit.  They figure out that there is a huge industry in crime and they can get a paycheck from it.

Criminals are looking for the big score.  Cops are basically criminals who were smart enough to opt for the abused wife, random violence license, tidy house in the burbs and paid vacations and retirement for being an insufferable douchebag.

Remember, when you get pulled over, that there but for the grace of a 7 point higher Standford Binet score stands without your driver's side window a carjacker or career felon.  They see the world from the same window.  This has so far, gotten us here.
 
2014-01-30 01:11:46 AM
These cops are thugs and should be fired and they should be forced to pay out of their own checkbooks for the damage they have done.  I wonder what they would do if they were confronted by armed citizens telling them to disarm themselves and get on the ground following their attack on the animal.  It seems that cops get a free pass for this type of confrontation.  They need to suffer penalties for their actions.
 
2014-01-30 01:18:13 AM

phojo1946: They need to suffer penalties for their actions.


As do Wall St. Banksters, dime store, street corner packet slinging thugs, megachurch c*nts, bond brokers, real estate malarkey farmers, pissant nobility in the form of authority pose salespeople, failed "journalists" and everybody else dismantling this business plan of a nation for profit and power.  Welcome to end game America.  They're gonna keep sh*tting where we eat until we close the buffet.
 
2014-01-30 01:23:02 AM

bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:It's obvious isn't it?

Like the balls on a tall dog.


I'm assuming it's not a fixed dog?
 
2014-01-30 01:23:31 AM
The correct response is not to beg for funds online, the correct response is to send the bill to the pantshiating moron officer who shot the dog.
 
2014-01-30 01:23:31 AM
It is a warning sign for a serial killer.
Also why do the LAPD really act like the fictional depiction of them in GTA5?
 
2014-01-30 01:25:42 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:It's obvious isn't it?

Like the balls on a tall dog.

I'm assuming it's not a fixed dog?


You can trim the machinery but the factory walls remain.
 
2014-01-30 01:27:22 AM

OhioUGrad: The correct response is not to beg for funds online, the correct response is to send the bill to the pantshiating moron officer who shot the dog.


No, the correct response is to appeal to compassion.  Not rail against the obsidian monolith that endlessly demonstrates it's lack thereof.
 
2014-01-30 01:31:18 AM
Well, you know, the flip side of this "OMG copz are teh killr pigz" argument is the fact that the dog was a pit bull. And if there is anything that people freak out about more than a cop, it's a pit bull. Had this been a headline about "Pit bull eats six cats, bites child in half" we'd have seen an equal number of raving Farkers screeching about how pit bulls are dogs from hell and shouldn't be allowed in countries with more than three people. Don't bother denying it, I've seen those threads.

If cops are overanxious to kill pit bulls, it's because people lose their minds around pit bulls, wanting them all shot to death and the survivors shot to death again. Any time a pit bull has hurt or killed anything, the neighbors are screaming about how the cops showed up and DIDN'T kill it and the ITGs are in force saying they'd have killed it twice if only they'd been there.

So sorry, if the police went ahead and shot a pit bull no matter who the owner was or how unmenacingly the dog was walking down the driveway, remember it was OMG A KILLER PIT BULL! and the default position is that pit bulls all must die. The reason the cops didn't "handle the situation differently" is because if they had, someone would have been saying "But it was a killer pit bull! They should have shot it anyway just in case!" Make up your minds, people. Is it a nice sweet pit bull that police should give the benefit of the doubt; or is it a deadly killer pit bull that they should preemptively kill because pit bullz? Pick one. You don't get it both ways.
 
2014-01-30 01:38:00 AM
As these news stories become more and more extant and prolix, we find ourselves, as a nation's people, more and more at sea in a maelstrom of cognitive dissonance.  And yet, we will wax piss eloquent at the cognitive dissonance that we attribute to those who do not share whatever well honed, disposable and prefabricated POV to which we happily subscribe as a matter of "acceptable" intellectual superiority.  When it comes to voting the dogsh*t off of our lawns, we are largely wont to smirk mightily at any notion that things are not as they should be.  And that we night have to drag our pale asses out of our desk chairs to successfully address the notion that we are at the behest of egregiously disingenuous men, with our means at hand.  And the wankers who are eating out of your fridge, pocketing your retirement and shooting your pets count on it.
 
2014-01-30 01:40:00 AM

Gyrfalcon: Well, you know, the flip side of this "OMG copz are teh killr pigz" argument is the fact that the dog was a pit bull. And if there is anything that people freak out about more than a cop, it's a pit bull. Had this been a headline about "Pit bull eats six cats, bites child in half" we'd have seen an equal number of raving Farkers screeching about how pit bulls are dogs from hell and shouldn't be allowed in countries with more than three people. Don't bother denying it, I've seen those threads.

If cops are overanxious to kill pit bulls, it's because people lose their minds around pit bulls, wanting them all shot to death and the survivors shot to death again. Any time a pit bull has hurt or killed anything, the neighbors are screaming about how the cops showed up and DIDN'T kill it and the ITGs are in force saying they'd have killed it twice if only they'd been there.

So sorry, if the police went ahead and shot a pit bull no matter who the owner was or how unmenacingly the dog was walking down the driveway, remember it was OMG A KILLER PIT BULL! and the default position is that pit bulls all must die. The reason the cops didn't "handle the situation differently" is because if they had, someone would have been saying "But it was a killer pit bull! They should have shot it anyway just in case!" Make up your minds, people. Is it a nice sweet pit bull that police should give the benefit of the doubt; or is it a deadly killer pit bull that they should preemptively kill because pit bullz? Pick one. You don't get it both ways.



We've already had Dog of Peace and False Dichotomy. What else ya got?
 
2014-01-30 01:40:40 AM

bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:It's obvious isn't it?

Like the balls on a tall dog.

I'm assuming it's not a fixed dog?

You can trim the machinery but the factory walls remain.


I'm confused, are you saying they give doggies vasectomies, not that they remove the balls entirely?
 
2014-01-30 01:40:50 AM

Gyrfalcon: Well, you know, the flip side of this "OMG copz are teh killr pigz" argument is the fact that the dog was a pit bull. And if there is anything that people freak out about more than a cop, it's a pit bull. Had this been a headline about "Pit bull eats six cats, bites child in half" we'd have seen an equal number of raving Farkers screeching about how pit bulls are dogs from hell and shouldn't be allowed in countries with more than three people. Don't bother denying it, I've seen those threads.

If cops are overanxious to kill pit bulls, it's because people lose their minds around pit bulls, wanting them all shot to death and the survivors shot to death again. Any time a pit bull has hurt or killed anything, the neighbors are screaming about how the cops showed up and DIDN'T kill it and the ITGs are in force saying they'd have killed it twice if only they'd been there.

So sorry, if the police went ahead and shot a pit bull no matter who the owner was or how unmenacingly the dog was walking down the driveway, remember it was OMG A KILLER PIT BULL! and the default position is that pit bulls all must die. The reason the cops didn't "handle the situation differently" is because if they had, someone would have been saying "But it was a killer pit bull! They should have shot it anyway just in case!" Make up your minds, people. Is it a nice sweet pit bull that police should give the benefit of the doubt; or is it a deadly killer pit bull that they should preemptively kill because pit bullz? Pick one. You don't get it both ways.


The people who are afraid of pit bulls don't have a valid viewpoint. Shame on you for trying to spin it that way.
 
2014-01-30 01:41:59 AM
Why are all cops so damn scared of dogs?
 
2014-01-30 01:43:15 AM

Bucky Katt: Why are all cops so damn scared of dogs?


Because they're not THEIR dogs.
 
2014-01-30 01:44:09 AM
Gyrfalcon
Well, you know, the flip side of this "OMG copz are teh killr pigz" argument is the fact that the dog was a pit bull. And if there is anything that people freak out about more than a cop, it's a pit bull. Had this been a headline about "Pit bull eats six cats, bites child in half" we'd have seen an equal number of raving Farkers screeching about how pit bulls are dogs from hell and shouldn't be allowed in countries with more than three people. Don't bother denying it, I've seen those threads.
If cops are overanxious to kill pit bulls, it's because people lose their minds around pit bulls, wanting them all shot to death and the survivors shot to death again. Any time a pit bull has hurt or killed anything, the neighbors are screaming about how the cops showed up and DIDN'T kill it and the ITGs are in force saying they'd have killed it twice if only they'd been there.
So sorry, if the police went ahead and shot a pit bull no matter who the owner was or how unmenacingly the dog was walking down the driveway, remember it was OMG A KILLER PIT BULL! and the default position is that pit bulls all must die. The reason the cops didn't "handle the situation differently" is because if they had, someone would have been saying "But it was a killer pit bull! They should have shot it anyway just in case!" Make up your minds, people. Is it a nice sweet pit bull that police should give the benefit of the doubt; or is it a deadly killer pit bull that they should preemptively kill because pit bullz? Pick one. You don't get it both ways.


I can agree with you a little, I am tired of seeing pics of a rott mix with little kids then of course they are all angelic little puppies. But lets face it, some cops like to get shooty around dogs because they can't charge them in court and can shoot them pretty freely. God forbid they get approached by a dog genetically made for fighting without an owner nearby.

I don't care if that rott mix was walking up with all the right signals and no aggression. It probably would be carrying a pistol on that police report if that dog had a thumb.
 
2014-01-30 01:45:22 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:It's obvious isn't it?

Like the balls on a tall dog.

I'm assuming it's not a fixed dog?

You can trim the machinery but the factory walls remain.

I'm confused, are you saying they give doggies vasectomies, not that they remove the balls entirely?


They remove their balls, not their scrotum.  Flappy dog.
 
2014-01-30 01:46:49 AM

bunner: Tryfan: More pigs just happy to shoot something.

"I got this gun, see, so you have to suck my dick!  Tell me I'm not allowed to shoot you.  Go ahead.  Please?  I dare you.  Wake up your gramma and I'll shoot her ass, too.  And be home in time for my paid vacation.  You got a problem with that?"  This, y'all, is not only what passes for law, but its enforcement.  Get those kneepads out.  They keep track of the "good ones", I hear tell.


 Just like a restraining order is paper...an officers uniform does not make him immune to bullets.  just sayin.
 
2014-01-30 01:48:04 AM

Bell-fan: Just like a restraining order is paper...an officers uniform does not make him immune to bullets.  just sayin.


No, just prosecution.
 
2014-01-30 01:54:00 AM
Allow me to summarizulate.  Please.

Until being a cop is no longer a license to be a criminal,

i.imgur.com
they offer to society will out weigh the damage they can do.  Nada.  Zip.  Bupkis.
 
2014-01-30 01:54:38 AM

bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:It's obvious isn't it?

Like the balls on a tall dog.

I'm assuming it's not a fixed dog?

You can trim the machinery but the factory walls remain.

I'm confused, are you saying they give doggies vasectomies, not that they remove the balls entirely?

They remove their balls, not their scrotum.  Flappy dog.


But then the balls on a tall dog aren't obvious are they?
Maybe it's just late and I'm dumb and I've been at work for too long.
 
2014-01-30 02:01:31 AM

Enemabag Jones: I can agree with you a little, I am tired of seeing pics of a rott mix with little kids then of course they are all angelic little puppies. But lets face it, some cops like to get shooty around dogs because they can't charge them in court and can shoot them pretty freely. God forbid they get approached by a dog genetically made for fighting without an owner nearby.

I don't care if that rott mix was walking up with all the right signals and no aggression. It probably would be carrying a pistol on that police report if that dog had a thumb.


Well, like all explanations, it's a generalization which doesn't excuse any individual actor. There's never any reason to shoot any dog that isn't actually chewing on your leg; but at the same time, as a society, we (society) have created this climate in which pit bulls and pit mixes are preemptively killers and need to be controlled.

Look at this story: The woman's dogs got out and SOMEBODY called the cops to report--OMG! PIt bulls! Running around loose! In my neighborhood! No other dogs would have gotten a PD response, because any other dogs, the neighbor would have knocked on the owner's door to tell her her labradoodle or whatever was loose again. So right away, there's another person not getting any flak here, the neighbor who called to report the dogs loose.

Now, I agree cops like to shoot dogs they probably shouldn't, but in most cases it's when the dogs are "barking" or "behaving aggressively" or at least sort of acting like dogs. But they know that with pit bulls, they're going to get away with it quicker, because OMG! PIT BULLS! Whoever it was who called the cops on these dogs is not sorry that they got shot, I'm sure. And of course cops, like mailmen and other public servants, do have horror stories about being attacked by drug dealer's pit bulls, so they might have some excuse.

Which of course does not excuse THESE cops in THIS situation--and isn't meant to. But it is meant as an explanation to say, look, if a society is going to be batshiat insane about pit bulls, so that a stray dog in the neighborhood warrants a call to the cops, then the cops will use dogs everyone hates already for target practice. People can't expect to hate on and demonize pit bulls 364 days a year (to the extent that some are calling for laws to make them illegal or presumptively lethal weapons) and not also expect cops to shoot them on the 365th day too.
 
2014-01-30 02:10:09 AM

bunner: Allow me to summarizulate.  Please.

Until being a cop is no longer a license to be a criminal,

[i.imgur.com image 232x78]
they offer to society will out weigh the damage they can do.  Nada.  Zip.  Bupkis.


You know, some day the police may kill a school shooter before he can continue killing kids. When and if that happens you might say that the police did something positive.
 
2014-01-30 02:15:05 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Allow me to summarizulate.  Please.

Until being a cop is no longer a license to be a criminal,

[i.imgur.com image 232x78]
they offer to society will out weigh the damage they can do.  Nada.  Zip.  Bupkis.

You know, some day the police may kill a school shooter before he can continue killing kids. When and if that happens you might say that the police did something positive.


And some might say that the "killing the school shooter" / "Shooting some motherf*cker cause 'hey whatever' " equation is sucking fat wang.  So it goes.
 
2014-01-30 02:19:42 AM
Another one sided POS story from another POS cap hating subby.  fark YOU FARK.  Every POS pit owner says their dog isn't aggressive except for the endless stories of pits attacking people without provocation.

HERE'S THE FACTS ASSHOLES.


http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/8-year-dog-bite-fatality-chart-dogsbiteo rg .pdf
 
2014-01-30 02:22:22 AM

bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Allow me to summarizulate.  Please.

Until being a cop is no longer a license to be a criminal,

[i.imgur.com image 232x78]
they offer to society will out weigh the damage they can do.  Nada.  Zip.  Bupkis.

You know, some day the police may kill a school shooter before he can continue killing kids. When and if that happens you might say that the police did something positive.

And some might say that the "killing the school shooter" / "Shooting some motherf*cker cause 'hey whatever' " equation is sucking fat wang.  So it goes.


aye, so it goes.
Can we at least agree that killing the school shooter is preferable to the killing of a whole bunch of kids?
And let's sweeten the deal and suppose the kids are all adorable and well behaved and intelligent. You know they are all kids like your (or more specifically *MY*) nieces. Because it's really no great loss if all the kids are loud, obnoxious, ugly little shiats .But these kids are all awesome and the killing of them when it was preventable is not so great a thing.
 
2014-01-30 02:29:54 AM
Uchiha_Cycliste:  Can we at least agree that killing the school shooter is preferable to the killing of a whole bunch of kids?

Oh, dear me , no.  Kids are noisy and largely unwashed.  Next appeal to inequitable constructs, please.
 
2014-01-30 02:41:50 AM

bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:  Can we at least agree that killing the school shooter is preferable to the killing of a whole bunch of kids?

Oh, dear me , no.  Kids are noisy and largely unwashed.  Next appeal to inequitable constructs, please.


That's why I went out of my way to specify great kids. I know most kids suck, but not all of them. I mean of the billion or so kids in existence, at least two are awesome... namely my nieces. And it would be a horrible shame if they were killed by a school shooter, especially if a cop could have prevented it. Now you aren't allowed to argue against this. These two girls are objectively awesome.
 
2014-01-30 02:48:09 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:  Can we at least agree that killing the school shooter is preferable to the killing of a whole bunch of kids?

Oh, dear me , no.  Kids are noisy and largely unwashed.  Next appeal to inequitable constructs, please.

That's why I went out of my way to specify great kids. I know most kids suck, but not all of them. I mean of the billion or so kids in existence, at least two are awesome... namely my nieces. And it would be a horrible shame if they were killed by a school shooter, especially if a cop could have prevented it. Now you aren't allowed to argue against this. These two girls are objectively awesome.


Children have one amazing app.  They are, by definition, innocent and or largely a product of the things they've observed in their immediate environment.  I like dogs and kids.  They're not selling anything.
 
2014-01-30 03:47:48 AM
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You reap what you sow. You venerate idiots, you wind up with idiots running the show.
 
2014-01-30 03:51:21 AM

bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:  Can we at least agree that killing the school shooter is preferable to the killing of a whole bunch of kids?

Oh, dear me , no.  Kids are noisy and largely unwashed.  Next appeal to inequitable constructs, please.

That's why I went out of my way to specify great kids. I know most kids suck, but not all of them. I mean of the billion or so kids in existence, at least two are awesome... namely my nieces. And it would be a horrible shame if they were killed by a school shooter, especially if a cop could have prevented it. Now you aren't allowed to argue against this. These two girls are objectively awesome.

Children have one amazing app.  They are, by definition, innocent and or largely a product of the things they've observed in their immediate environment.  I like dogs and kids.  They're not selling anything.


You can almost get pissed off at Girl Scouts for their cookie racket, but a lot of the cookies are so damn good that you just got to give them a pass.
 
2014-01-30 04:03:41 AM

bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste: bunner: Uchiha_Cycliste:  Can we at least agree that killing the school shooter is preferable to the killing of a whole bunch of kids?

Oh, dear me , no.  Kids are noisy and largely unwashed.  Next appeal to inequitable constructs, please.

That's why I went out of my way to specify great kids. I know most kids suck, but not all of them. I mean of the billion or so kids in existence, at least two are awesome... namely my nieces. And it would be a horrible shame if they were killed by a school shooter, especially if a cop could have prevented it. Now you aren't allowed to argue against this. These two girls are objectively awesome.

Children have one amazing app.  They are, by definition, innocent and or largely a product of the things they've observed in their immediate environment.  I like dogs and kids.  They're not selling anything.


Honest question... do you still consider psychopathic and sociopathic children to be innocents? The ones that get off on harming smaller, weaker, anythings? You know, assuming they are old enough to have known better; which frankly isn't that old. Once they are old enough and have the coordination  to use tools in their sadistic after-school activities they should know better than to harm other people and animals. Not to mention that it should just feel wrong to do so. Little kids are usually really sensitive about small animals and get all bent out of shape when they see one hurting.A kid who harms small cute things is totally abnormal and against the natural order of things. And back to the original question... do you consider these evil little bastards to be innocents?
 
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